Storyteller? I Hardly KNOW Her!

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Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that puts the

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"yehaw" in y'all means all.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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Speaker 2: and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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Dash: We ha- so the Kentucky gays have a

theory that is looking like it might be

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correct, that Trixie Mattel is dating from

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Beck: Kentucky or England?

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Dash: Kentucky.

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Beck: Gotcha.

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Dash: So she has always

had a thing for Kentucky.

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She, she loves, she always

makes a, the- performs there.

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She's always, like, randomly there, and

she mentions this on the podcast a lot.

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and then, like, we'll see her with

T-shirts or hats or things that are from

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local businesses on her main channel

where she does makeup tutorials and

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stuff, which I watch for some reason.

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I don't know.

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I, I just like that people

can do that, you know?

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash: So we just started seeing more

and more and, and my friends message me

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and they're like, "Are you seeing this?"

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And it's, it's becoming…

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There's a lot of evidence now.

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Anyway, on their most recent

episode, she said, uh, that she was

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gonna go to the Chicken Festival.

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And I was like Why would you tell us that?

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The chicken festival's about

to be slamming this year.

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It's about to be gay as hell.

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Beck: Today is one month till my birthday

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Dash: That's right.

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You have the same birthday

as my friend Elise, I think.

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Yeah

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Beck: I ha- so I have this

tradition with my mom.

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When I was 15 turning 16, we were on

our way to Ver- Myrtle Beach one summer,

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and it was one month till I turned 16,

and I walked around the, the hotel room

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going, " One month till my birthday.

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One month till my birthday."

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And that just became a thing

for the next 30, 40 years.

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Uh, well, 30 years it's

been since I turned 16.

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And I always called Mom and I

said that, so that's, that's one

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of the things I miss about her is

the, "One month till my birthday."

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Dash: Now you can sing it to us

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Beck: Yeah

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look at Rue's hair.

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Sh- sh- Rue needs a

haircut, but it's really…

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She has an appointment the 11th.

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It's, it's really hard to get in here.

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Guess how much it cost at the lowest cost

groomer we could find, just for a regular,

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not even a nail trim, just a, just a groom

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Dash: $85

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Beck: $65, which I still

think is way too much.

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There was ano- there was another one

that was $100 with not a nail trim.

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It was like, Jesus.

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Yeah.

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And she's gonna need this,

like, every eight weeks?

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Like, Shanna's gonna need to

learn how to be a g- dog groomer.

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Add that to her list of skills.

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yeah, she used to groom our poodles, so.

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And Wenda, God love her never went

to a groomer in her life 'cause I was

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afraid that she would just be so scared

'cause she was a shy little girl and

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I didn't wanna be apart from her, so

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Dash: It's

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Beck: I learned about my own hair.

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I don't, I don't play with my hair.

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I go to a girl who's excellent.

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She charges me $40, and I

give her an $8 tip every five

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weeks, and it, it works out.

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I like my hair in pictures,

and so it, it works out

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Dash: It, it definitely was a process.

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It took me years to learn how to produce

something that looks like a real haircut.

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It takes

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: it takes a lot of practice

to learn how to fade, especially

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: I was learning before

you could really Google things.

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And I had to learn just from

watching people, like being around

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people who knew how to do it and

just practicing over and over.

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: Once the, once the internet

and especially YouTube came along,

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I, I kind of refined my art, but I

could still only give myself like

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maybe three different haircuts.

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That's it

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Beck: Yehaw I go in, she's like,

"What do you wanna do your hair?"

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I'm like, "Whatever you wanna do with it.

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Fuck it up."

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And she does what she wants to do with it.

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Dash: That's

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Beck: It's always very short, yeah.

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And she is gorgeous.

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The girl that does my hair,

she is absolutely, and queer.

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She was married to a woman

when we started going to her.

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She's disappointed in herself, but

she's dating a man right now, so

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Dash: Why?

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Why does she don't…

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I mean,

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Beck: It's a, that's a joke.

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Yeah, yeah, So

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Dash: is too real, so like it's easy to,

to think somebody's serious about that

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Beck: No, she was teasing She

had a nose job not too long ago.

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She's one of those people that

tells everybody everything

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about, she's like an open book.

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I went in and I was getting my

hair cut like, I don't know, three,

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four months ago, and she was like,

"So I had an abortion yesterday."

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And I was like, "Okay,

let's talk about that."

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Dash: All right.

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How was that for you?

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Beck: Yeah.

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Uh, I, she took the pill as far as I know

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The abortion pill.

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That's 90% of abortions at this

point are done by the pill.

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Dash: Yehaw I went some of the,

faculty from my department yesterday,

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Beck: Nice.

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Dash: we got

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Beck: How was that?

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Dash: They're really sweet people and

they're really, you know, fun and excited.

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It's cool to be able to talk

about pedagogy and, and, you know,

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research and stuff like that.

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But it- there was a

moment where, like, we…

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me and this one woman started

talking about, like, our battle

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scars basically, 'cause she's

having some health issues too.

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And I was like, "This is my first

experience of, of this here," like this,

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this bonding experience where you talk

about what part of you's falling apart.

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Like, that felt

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Beck: Right

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Dash: nostalgic to me.

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And I could tell that the other folks

thought it was kind of odd, so we, we

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stopped, but it was, know, I don't…

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nobody was upset, but

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: you know, whatever."

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Well, we…

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So the wheel of what have you told

us to, well, it wasn't very specific.

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It said anecdote.

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when I put that on there, I had this

grand idea that I was gonna create a

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follow-up that would give us a little

more guidance, and I just never did.

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So now we're stuck with the

consequences of my actions.

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I, we, we talked a little bit off air

about it, but, like, I, I found the

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process a bit odd, you know, considering,

one, it's over a year now of us telling

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every damn thing we can think of about

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: and our past.

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Not that it's ever possible

to run out of stories, but

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Beck: Isn't it though?

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Dash: No.

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Beck: feel like I have, I, I

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Dash: Think about, like, we would have

to sit here and relive 44 years at least

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: storytelling is an art for a reason,

because understanding what is interesting

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to people about the, what feels quotidian

to you the craft of storytelling.

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So we've told plenty of stories that to

us is just sort of like, "Well, th- that

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was a Tuesday," and then it sounds batshit

to somebody who's not from, you know.

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And the, the same would go for,

you know, us hearing stories

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about other folks' experiences.

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So once I got over that, I started

to, like, come up with all kinds

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of ideas, and then it became,

like, how do I trim this down?

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It went from, like, " I'm out of stories.

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There's nothing interesting about me.

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There's nothing left to tell,"

to, like, flooding my mind with

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some legitimately crazy shit.

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So then it was like, what

is appropriate to tell?

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Beck: Right?

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I have a story that I wanna tell, but I'm

afraid that it will tarnish the reputation

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of the, the main person in the story.

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But on the other hand, they have passed

away at this point, and I think that they

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would be amused that this story came out.

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So I have decided, I think I

am gonna tell that story, so.

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Dash: We would

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Beck: Can we do things a little

bit in reverse order this week

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and maybe do the noun first?

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That way,

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we can set some, some,

some groundwork for it

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Dash: a great idea, yes,

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give us a noun of Appalachian interest

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Beck: All right, guys.

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This week's, Noun of Appalachian Interest

is one that is particularly personal

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to me and, and to the Scioto County

area, the, the Southern Ohio area.

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This week's Noun of Appalachian

interest is Emily Cobb Thomas.

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Who, you say?

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Emily was a good friend of mine.

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She was my dad's boss for a long time.

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And as you'll hear in a few minutes,

she was an icon of anti-racist

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work in the Southern Ohio area and

someone that I looked up to dearly.

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Emily passed away on July 24th at the

age of 82, and I have been trying to

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figure out how to fit more than 25 years

of friendships into just a few minutes.

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I'm not sure that's possible,

but she deserves for me to try.

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I met Emily in 1998, and somewhere

along the way, she stopped being

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only my friend and became family.

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We shared good times and difficult times.

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We laughed more than I could ever

count, and s- we spent more than

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20 years together calling bingo.

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We were the two callers side

by side, watching cards and

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keeping the game moving.

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Bingo may not sound like the

foundation for a lifelong friendship,

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but then again, you probably

never worked bingo with Emily.

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She was one of the funniest

people I have ever known.

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She was also one of the

kindest people that I knew.

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Emily knew how to make people feel

seen, and she understood how hard

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I was working when other people

did not always understand it.

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She often told me that she was proud of

me, and I hope she knew how much I carried

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those words with me, because hearing them

from her mattered more than I can explain.

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Emily spent her life working for the

people of Portsmouth and Scioto County.

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She began working for the Community Action

Organization in nineteen sixty-six and

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stayed for forty-three years, eventually

becoming the director of social services.

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She helped provide meals for older

people, worked to improve housing in

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the area, and created opportunities

for people who had been denied them.

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Emily fought against discrimination

in housing and employment.

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She helped reorganize the local NAACP

chapter and later served as its president.

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When she saw that minority applicants

were being left out of jobs at the

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Southern Ohio Correctional Facility,

she helped create a program to recruit

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and prepare them for the hiring process.

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She spent her career opening doors

and then holding those doors open so

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other people could walk through them.

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That work tells you a great

deal about Emily, but it

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does not tell you everything.

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An obituary can list the boards

someone served on or the positions they

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held, but it cannot hold every laugh.

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It cannot explain the look someone gave

you across the bingo hall when both of you

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knew exactly what the other was thinking.

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It cannot capture all of the

conversations, the private

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jokes, and the years of knowing

that someone is in your corner.

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I am proud of everything Emily

accomplished, but more than that,

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I am proud to call her my friend.

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I am grateful for every year we

had together, and I am grateful

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for every laugh and every time she

reminded me that she believed in me.

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Emily spent her life helping people

feel that they belonged and that

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they deserved a chance, and she

did the same thing in friendship.

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She made room for people,

and she made room for me.

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I will miss her more than I will say,

but I will always be thankful that Emily

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Cobb Thomas became part of my family.

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Farewell, my friend.

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I love you

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Dash: Wow.

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Thank you so much for sharing that

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Beck: She was wonderful

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Dash: Yeah, sounds like it.

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Beck: Yehaw.

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Dash: sounds

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y- you need to write a full article

about all of the work she did.

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love to hear more about that

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Beck: She did a lot of

good around the area.

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She was, She married a

Black man in the: 1960

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Emily was white, and she married a

Black man in the: 1960

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kids by him which in southern Ohio

in the: 1960

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So she was an early pioneer of, of, of

anti-racist work just because of the,

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the nature of who she married and who

her kids were and things like that.

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And she is well, uh, she was well

enmeshed in the, in the Black community.

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Everybody knew Miss Emily.

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But she was also known in other parts

because she was over the heap the, the,

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that helped people get the, the gas

and the electricity for the winters.

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She oversaw a program where I worked

there this, my first summer out of

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college, I worked there supervising.

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They hire kids for every…

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We have, like, 13 school districts

in the county, and they hire the kids

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that go there, like five or six of

them, to help paint lockers or paint

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rooms or clean floors or whatever.

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And there's a liaison from Community

Action that goes out and takes out

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the paychecks and checks on them and

does, does all that kind of stuff.

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I worked for that program

before I, like, I even knew her.

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That was in 1997, so that

was even before I knew her.

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She oversaw…

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My sister, when she was in, in…

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She, my sister is a medical lab

technologist she had to wear

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scrubs, and Community Action helped

her get her scrubs and her books.

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They, she did Meals on Wheels.

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She did the bingo.

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That's, that's how we ended up…

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The, the bingo that my dad

ran was for Community Action.

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So,

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Dash: Oh, I didn't know that

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Beck: yeah.

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So Emily, the, the bingo caller, or

Em- Em- Emily was the, the liaison

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between Community Action and the bingo.

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She helped get it all set

up, and she was there.

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That's why she was the other caller.

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She was, she was my dad's boss.

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So she did a lot, and I'm, I'm

very proud to have known her

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Dash: Yeah.

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Beck: And she had a master's

degree, and she's the only person

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I knew in my life from down

there that had a master's degree.

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And so I felt like she kn- like honestly,

I'm, I'm not trying to be funny there.

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Like, that's just the, the

way it was, and people…

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Education isn't such a thing down there.

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You know, people don't…

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It's not a, a goal.

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And she understood what I

was doing, and when I…

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She was big on Portsmouth history,

and I remember one afternoon, uh,

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my master's thesis was about the

lost Black history of Scioto County.

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And so I had questions, and she lived

a lot of it, so I called and asked her.

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She ended up in my thesis, but I

remember sitting, I was in the Polly

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Ice parking lot in BG and I sat there

for, like, two hours, and we just talked

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about Portsmouth history and the Black

history in the area and all that kind

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of stuff, and it was the one of the

most wonderful conversations that I

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had about home that wasn't about, you

know, poverty or, or anything like that.

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It was about my research.

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You know?

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It was, it was great

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Dash: able to connect to knowledge

making about your hometown,

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that would be really cool.

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I never, in Jellico I had never

met anybody that had even gone to

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college that wasn't a cousin of mine.

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I had an older cousin, had older

cousins that went to college

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Beck: Yeah.

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There were some people in my

extended family that had gone to

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school um, that'd gone to college.

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My dad's older brother, uh, Mark's older

brother, went to, uh, col- he, on the

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GI Bill, and he became a teacher and

then a principal at the local school.

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I, I never had a conversation with that

man in my whole life, so I never knew him.

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Uh, my dad and his brother didn't

get along, but there was education

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on that side of the family.

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Dash: Well, and there's

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between the experience of going

to college and coming back.

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Beck: Right

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Dash: Like, if somebody who's just

a year or two older than you goes

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to college, they're not gonna be

able to give you the secrets of, of

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Beck: Yeah, no, I was the

first one to go to college.

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I was the first one to live in the dorms.

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I was the first one to

move away from home.

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I was the first one to do all

of those things, you know?

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And I was the youngest in my family.

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My, e- everybody dropped

out until it got to me, so.

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My mom, in, in my mom's true fashion,

when she was a sophomore in high school,

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she got into a fight over a boy, and

she would tell you all about the fight.

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She was so proud of it.

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But she got suspended, and she just

never went back to school afterwards.

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That's how she quit school,

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Dash: Uh, was it she said?

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You told me this, this story once.

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She said something about Br- about how

she got her ass kicked or something.

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Beck: No, she kicked the ass of the woman.

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Like she, she was wearing a big,

she got her boyfriend's ring.

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It was like a big class ring.

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Dash: She

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Beck: Yeah, and she got, yeah, she

got the girl by the hair and she

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said, "I felt bad punching her,

but I just kept punching her."

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Dash: It's hard to stop

once you're in motion.

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That is

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Beck: Yehaw.

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Dash: weapon, by the way.

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Beck: It was the '60s.

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It was a different time

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Dash: The, the number of people from

back home who should be in prison,

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash: Well, do you, do you wanna

take a little break and then…

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Or do you wanna tell us

your story about Emily,

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Beck: Okay, yes.

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So my, uh, I'll, I'll go

ahead and tell you my story

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'cause it's a pretty good one.

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So now you have been introduced to Emily,

so now I would like to tell you a story

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that I have never told publicly before.

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All right, so in what could not have

been Emily's idea in my opinion so

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to set the, set the stage for the

story, Larry the Cable Guy came

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to w- Charleston, West Virginia.

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Oh, it was before we left, so

it would've been like: 2003

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2004, somewhere in that area.

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No, it would've been 2005, 2006,

somewhere in that timeframe.

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And so we had a caravan.

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There were three cars of us going.

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One car had my mom and dad,

Emily and her husband Bruce.

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One car had my sister and her

husband, and then their cop friend

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and his wife, and then the th- the

middle car was me and Shanna, right?

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So I get a … And so this was

before cell phones were really a

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big thing but they had a car phone.

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So my mom never asked me for weed,

never once in my life until this day.

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And I get a phone call and my

mom's like, "You got any weed?"

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And I was like, "Uh, yeah."

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Dash: Is this a trick question?

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Beck: So she was like, "Well, roll us

one up and we'll meet you at the…"

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We were gonna meet at the, They

were all coming from Portsmouth and

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I was already in Huntington, which

is on the way to Charleston, so we

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were gonna meet at the rest stop and

form a caravan and go on from there.

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And she was like, "Bring

it to the rest stop."

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And I was like, "All right."

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So I rolled him a joint and I gave it

to him, and I, uh, between the, the,

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the rest stop where we were by the dog

track and the Charleston Civic Center,

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they s- they Cheech and Chong'd this

thing, Mom, Emily, Bruce, and Mark.

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Half-hour maybe, right?

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Dash: Oh,

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Beck: yeah, when, when they opened the

door, the smoke came rolling out, right?

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It was a total Cheech and Chong moment.

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And so we parked in the wrong

space originally, and you have to

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remember Bruce was probably the only

Black man in all of the, the thing.

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Larry the Cable Guy told a joke

about a shadow being there, and,

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like, everybody looked at Bruce

'cause it was a Black joke.

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So we get there, and we're

trying to figure out where

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to go, and they're all high.

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And Emily's standing by a fountain.

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I'm like, "Y'all all right, Emily?"

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And she says, "Well, those are the

prettiest fucking tulips I've ever seen."

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Dash: Were they at least actually tulips?

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Beck: They were

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I tried to send tulips to her funeral, but

they were out of season, so I couldn't.

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I sent roses instead.

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that's the funniest thing

she ever said to me.

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"Those are the prettiest

fucking tulips I've ever seen."

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Dash: sort of like in her head you had

said, "Those are some ugly ass tulips."

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How dare you, they're beautiful

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Beck: We had a good time at the show.

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We had a whole row of, of our little gang.

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But we literally had a police

officer in our, in our car, and

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that was in our caravan, and

that was before weed was legal.

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Dash: Did

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Beck: Uh, no, I don't think he did.

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He was, he was not cool at all.

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Dash: Oh,

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Beck: They were all, yeah, yeah.

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His name was Jerry, and

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Dash: she got stir crazy in the car.

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Beck: Well, Emily was

always a little bit funny.

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It sh- that's one of the reasons we got

along so well, 'cause she was real funny.

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we would laugh and joke.

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One time I lost a bunch

of weight one summer.

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My best friend and I started walking,

like, three and a half miles a

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day, and if you walk three and a

half miles a day every day for a

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summer, you'll lose some weight.

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And so I had a lot of energy

to burn, 'cause I'm ADHD and I

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was very unmedicated back then.

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And when you're on a, on a s-

in a, a large exercise regimen,

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you get a lot of energy, right?

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: 00:19:02

So I was standing at the bingo and

she was sitting on the caller stand.

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She was actually calling,

and I was running tips.

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: 00:19:08

So I was going back and forth behind the

desk and, you know, th- there was like

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a, a bar that you'd, like, the, the,

the, you stood behind it and then the

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customer stood on the other side of it.

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And there was a big whiteboard where

when you called a tip, you'd write

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down the number and the winning number.

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: 00:19:21

That way if somebody had gone

out to smoke, they could come

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check their numbers or whatever.

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: 00:19:24

And so I'm standing there, and I, I'm

standing by the whiteboard and I said,

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"Hey, Emily, look what I can do."

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: 00:19:30

And I jumped up and I tried to do an

entire twist in one jump, and I fell

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: 00:19:35

because I'm not graceful whatsoever.

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: 00:19:37

And I fell directly into the

whiteboard, and my face slid

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: 00:19:40

down the whiteboard and made that

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: 00:19:44

sound.

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: 00:19:45

And she almost could not continue calling

bingo because she was laughing so hard

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: 00:19:50

Dash: That's personal.

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: 00:19:52

Like, like the order, the way that

played out, you know, like first of all,

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: 00:19:57

you got humbled by your surroundings

trying to attempt something you weren't

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: 00:20:00

capable of to begin with, but you

called attention to yourself first.

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: 00:20:04

Couldn't have gone worse

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: 00:20:06

Beck: For years I would just be like,

"Hey Emily, look what I can do."

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: 00:20:10

Dash: Was that a Mad TV reference?

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: 00:20:12

Beck: Yes, it was.

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: 00:20:14

Dash: Stuart

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: 00:20:16

Beck: we had a lot of fun, me and M.

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: 00:20:18

She was there with my brother

when he caused all his madness

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and all his nonsense because she

was married to an alcoholic and

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: 00:20:24

she knew Bruce was an alcoholic.

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: 00:20:26

So she knew what that was like,

and we commiserated on that.

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And she got to know my family very well,

so, you know, we commiserated on that.

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And she was just a, a

major part of my life

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: 00:20:39

Dash: Sounds like she was incredible

to know and based on things you've

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: 00:20:43

said, she put a lot into the world and

probably got a lot out of it in return

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: 00:20:48

Beck: Yeah.

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Yep, she sure did

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: 00:20:50

Dash: I think that's the best

thing to hope for somebody

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: 00:20:54

Beck: When her best friend died,

her best friend gave her her house.

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: 00:20:57

Like that's, like that's

how close she was.

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: 00:21:00

Like

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Dash: Well, hopefully that made her,

her life easier after that point too

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: 00:21:05

Beck: She had lived in an apartment

for like 30 years, the same apartment,

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: 00:21:09

and when she got the house, they moved

into the house and she was finally out.

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: 00:21:12

Like, she could have moved out of

that apartment long before but she

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had a place to go, I guess, in the

real nice little section of town.

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: 00:21:18

So she moved there.

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We also I, I can put the picture

in the newsletter this week, but

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it would've been 2007 when my,

my dog turned three years old.

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: 00:21:29

And at three times seven, it's

21, so it was 21st birthday.

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: 00:21:33

And I knew people that had three

other poodles, so we had a poodle

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party and there were five poodles in

attendance, and two of them were Emily's.

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And we always bonded over having

poodles because, you know, when, once

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you have a poodle, you rarely go back.

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: 00:21:47

No, there were six poodles.

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: 00:21:48

There was my two, and then Bug

Koda's brother and, or his daddy,

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: 00:21:52

and, uh, uh, and the little

dog, and then Rosie and Boston.

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: 00:21:58

And she made a joke 'cause Boston

was black and the rest of them were

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: 00:22:01

white, and she's like, "He's the

only little Black guy over there."

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But if you guys want, I have

pictures of the poodle party that

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turned out very good, so I will

post those if anybody is interested.

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They'll, that'll be in the newsletter

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Dash: Please do.

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Thanks for telling us about Emily.

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Beck: Thanks for listening, y'all

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: 00:22:15

Dash: I hope everybody is lucky

enough to have an Emily in their life.

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Beck: Yeah, for sure

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Dash: But we know not everyone is, and

so if that's you, you're our friends

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: 00:22:25

Beck: I need lots of friends,

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Dash: You were worried about

telling that because you thought,

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you know, what about her memory?

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: 00:22:37

What about her reputation

among people in Scioto County?

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: 00:22:41

And I, you know, for me, I'm like,

that's a relatively tame story.

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Not that I don't see your perspective,

but that's because of the absolute

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debauched tale I'm about to tell.

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: 00:22:56

Beck: Well, it's the only time

I ever knew that she did any,

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like she didn't even drink.

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: 00:23:00

So it's the only time I knew

of her, uh, having any kind

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: 00:23:02

of substance fun whatsoever in

the 30 years that I knew her.

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: 00:23:06

So, and I th- even Martha Stewart said,

"Of course I know how to roll a joint."

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: 00:23:10

You know?

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: 00:23:10

Like,

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: 00:23:11

Dash: Mm-hmm.

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: 00:23:11

Beck: when you're of a time and,

you know, she came through the '60s,

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: 00:23:15

and, you know, she probably has

smoked a joint or two in her life.

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: 00:23:19

Dash: have, you

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: 00:23:22

well-adjusted people know

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: 00:23:24

Beck: retired by the time she did that, so

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: 00:23:27

Dash: Yeah.

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: 00:23:28

Well, so my, like, process

for choosing a story was I…

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: 00:23:32

Have you ever done, like, actual

storytelling, like the performance

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: 00:23:34

where you get up on stage and there's a

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: 00:23:36

Beck: Mm-mm.

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: 00:23:37

Dash: we, we have a, a friend

from grad school who is a

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professional storyteller, Csenge.

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: 00:23:44

She got a degree in it from ETSU,

East Tennessee State University.

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: 00:23:48

She got her master's in it, and she

came and did her PhD in cultural

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studies approaches to tabletop gaming

and storytelling uh, she's got a couple

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books, awesome, awesome writer, and

really just smart and funny person.

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she's who I learned, uh, that storytelling

was a, an actual performance art.

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: 00:24:08

M- And it wasn't a huge shock,

but it was just sort of like that

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: 00:24:11

kinda thing hadn't entered my mind.

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: 00:24:12

Beck: Yeah.

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: 00:24:13

profile picture and I'm very proud of that

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: 00:24:15

Dash: Yeah, it's a good one.

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: 00:24:17

When I went to w- back to work

at EKU, I've met a faculty

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: 00:24:21

member who just happened to be…

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: 00:24:24

Like, I met him because he was

a, an out gay man, and so he was

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: 00:24:27

helping me with programs and things.

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: 00:24:30

And he, I mentioned

storytelling or something.

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: 00:24:32

He's like, "Wait, you

know about storytelling?"

531

: 00:24:33

And I was like, "Oh,

just through a friend."

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: 00:24:35

And he was like, "I just

started learning about it.

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: 00:24:37

I started doing some,

some, like, and stuff."

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: 00:24:41

And he created a program.

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: 00:24:43

It was just a monthly program.

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: 00:24:44

He got a microgrant to buy the kids

pizza, and we met at Apollo Pizza

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: 00:24:48

in Richmond, I think maybe the,

the third Tuesday of every month.

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: 00:24:52

And it was like an open mic, but

was f- a focus on storytelling.

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: 00:24:58

I went there one night for a theme or

something, and I told this story about

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: 00:25:04

how, about the, the day I, the day I

learned that I had gained male privilege.

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: 00:25:10

And it, it's a good story,

but it's not funny all.

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: 00:25:16

In fact, it's actually kind

of disturbing and upsetting.

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: 00:25:20

So I was l- I thought about that,

but I was like, "Maybe another time."

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: 00:25:23

That's, that's, maybe when it's

relevant to something and I can

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: 00:25:26

find a way to make it entertaining

instead of just illuminating.

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: 00:25:30

Uh, it was the kind of learning

that, like, is necessary for

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: 00:25:34

me, and I wish cis men could go

through it, because they don't.

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: 00:25:38

It's, it's only trans men who suddenly one

day at the age of 36 have male privilege.

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: 00:25:43

So there's something

to be learned from it.

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: 00:25:45

But I decided instead to tell the

story of the night I quit mushrooms.

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: 00:25:54

Beck: You know those are

legal in Michigan now?

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: 00:25:56

Dash: That doesn't surprise me.

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: 00:25:58

Beck: You can, you, not that I know

from experience, you can go to this,

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: 00:26:02

like, little thrift shop and they

have just type after type after type

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: 00:26:06

after type and will sell you, like,

an ounce of this and an ounce of that.

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: 00:26:10

Oh, there's … Like, you go on

their website and they have, like, 50

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: 00:26:13

different varieties, and this one is

good for creativity, and this one is g-

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: 00:26:17

It's like the sativa/indica bullshit.

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: 00:26:19

Dash: right,

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: 00:26:19

Beck: I agree completely.

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Yeah

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: 00:26:22

Dash: I went through a phase in my, in my

undergrad, there was a couple years there

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: 00:26:26

where I had a, a core group of friends

and we were really close, and we partied

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: 00:26:31

a lot, and it was a lot of psychedelics.

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: 00:26:35

So, I did a lot.

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: 00:26:37

This could be a bad idea.

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: 00:26:39

I did a lot of acid and

a little bit of shrooms.

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: 00:26:42

I d- I, I never loved shrooms.

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: 00:26:44

I didn't have a great time, but

it was, like, to get, right?

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: 00:26:48

'Cause people could grow them.

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: 00:26:49

You could order those kits online

and just grow your own shrooms.

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: 00:26:52

So I wound up doing them a couple

times, but this one trip, which

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: 00:26:56

actually may have only been, like,

my second or third one, this is…

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: 00:26:59

I, I did not make it very far into

doing shrooms before I had had enough.

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: 00:27:03

But it, kind of came out

of that time when I was…

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: 00:27:08

I was hanging out with my friend

Skip pretty much constantly.

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: 00:27:12

his full government nickname was

Skippy, but I called him Skip But I

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: 00:27:16

had a, a rough roommate situation.

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: 00:27:19

This girl was, like,

weird and inconsiderate.

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: 00:27:22

She was always having strange

sex, uh, with people who…

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: 00:27:26

There's just no regard at all for

the fact that this was 8 by 10 room.

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: 00:27:31

And so my friend Skip, he lived down

on the fourth floor of Clay Hall,

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: 00:27:36

which was the par- the party floor.

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: 00:27:38

and his roommate dropped out, so

I just started staying in his room

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for the rest of that school year.

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: 00:27:43

So we were together constantly.

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And it was a…

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This also kinda coincides with the

beginning of the end, you know, of

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: 00:27:49

that magical period where everything

is beautiful, everybody gets along, you

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: 00:27:53

have a million friends, and there's a

ton of interesting things to do, and then

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: 00:27:57

people start falling out, or couples that

have been together start to break up.

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: 00:28:03

And it's just, that's a, that used to…

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: 00:28:05

I don't know if it's still a moment

for college kids, but that was, that

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: 00:28:08

happens to everybody who went to college

some point, you know, in the: 2000

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: 00:28:12

In the '90s So that happened.

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: 00:28:15

uh, a core couple broke up, and

the guy who lost, you know how

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: 00:28:21

somebody always loses the breakup.

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: 00:28:23

The guy who lost the breakup needed

help moving and nobody would help him.

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: 00:28:27

So me and Skip decided to help him.

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: 00:28:28

We, he, it was k- he had to move

back Greensburg, Kentucky, which i-

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: 00:28:34

is the only thing I know about it,

it's the place that Dumas Walkers is.

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: 00:28:38

It's not called Dumas

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: 00:28:39

Beck: Ah.

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: 00:28:40

Dash: but yeah, I learned

that on that trip.

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: 00:28:43

Beck: Let's all go down to Dooba's Walk.

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: 00:28:47

Dash: Yeah.

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: 00:28:48

And we ate there.

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: 00:28:48

That was cool.

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: 00:28:49

But this guy was a mess.

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: 00:28:51

so he was doing pills the whole time.

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: 00:28:54

So we got to his mom's house, she

also is just a freak, and, uh, had

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: 00:29:01

these two people with us who we don't

know what they were doing there.

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: 00:29:05

We found out later that it's because Skip

had a crush on Kim, so that's why Kim was

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: 00:29:09

there, and Kim's friend Eugene had a crush

on me, so that's why they were there.

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: 00:29:14

And so 'cause I was like,

"What are y'all doing here?"

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It was a weird night already.

617

: 00:29:18

So Joey is in the laundry room spelling

out his ex's name in Xanax powder

618

: 00:29:25

and then snorting all the lines.

619

: 00:29:27

And so Skip is babysitting him,

and then Kim and Eugene have, have

620

: 00:29:31

taken mushrooms for whatever reason.

621

: 00:29:34

They took them before we left.

622

: 00:29:35

They were tripping when we got there.

623

: 00:29:37

And so they're having a terrible

time, and I'm babysitting them.

624

: 00:29:40

So we didn't sleep at all that night.

625

: 00:29:42

Long, long story short on that, we

were both, we both stayed sober, me

626

: 00:29:45

and Skip did, but we, we were awake for

24 hours then had to drive back home.

627

: 00:29:50

Instead of going to bed like we should

have- We went to a barn party that

628

: 00:29:55

night at a, some friend's um, farmhouse.

629

: 00:30:01

And were, like, frazzled, right?

630

: 00:30:04

It w- it had not been a good night.

631

: 00:30:05

It was difficult.

632

: 00:30:07

And so our friend This, this guy, we

called him Bob the Tomato, I th- which

633

: 00:30:12

I think is a VeggieTales reference.

634

: 00:30:14

He sold us these mushrooms,

and you know how dealers have

635

: 00:30:18

always got their spiel, right?

636

: 00:30:19

Like, "These are six

637

: 00:30:20

Beck: Right

638

: 00:30:21

Dash: stronger than the average…"

639

: 00:30:23

You know, he said that.

640

: 00:30:24

He was like, "These are six times

stronger than regular shrooms."

641

: 00:30:27

And I was like, "Who counted?

642

: 00:30:28

you count?"

643

: 00:30:31

What makes you say that?

644

: 00:30:32

Okay, whatever.

645

: 00:30:33

So we, we bought them and we, this

was probably like 8:00 PM, and I

646

: 00:30:39

don't like the taste of shrooms.

647

: 00:30:40

I can't even do the peanut butter

sandwich method, and they hurt my stomach.

648

: 00:30:44

And so I to make tea out of them,

which I may have also been part of

649

: 00:30:50

this issue may, may have also caused

what happened So I made us some tea

650

: 00:30:55

and we split this eighth of shrooms.

651

: 00:31:02

It wasn't long at all before

both of us were miserable.

652

: 00:31:04

We…

653

: 00:31:06

I, I lost my mind, you know?

654

: 00:31:07

I was like, I was like, "Where am I?

655

: 00:31:09

How did I get here?

656

: 00:31:10

How long have I been here?"

657

: 00:31:11

And then I look over, and I don't

know how he got roped into this,

658

: 00:31:15

but he was upside down on the couch

with his head hanging down, like,

659

: 00:31:19

where your, your calves touch it.

660

: 00:31:22

He had a towel around the top of his

head some googly eyes on his chin.

661

: 00:31:28

And so his, his beard was like the hair.

662

: 00:31:32

And it, it actually broke me, and I

was like, "Wait, what is going on?"

663

: 00:31:37

mind broke.

664

: 00:31:38

Next thing I know, my friend

Leah is poking me, and I was

665

: 00:31:43

curled up under a bush outside.

666

: 00:31:44

And I was like, "I really

wanna go somewhere.

667

: 00:31:48

I wanna leave.

668

: 00:31:49

I wanna go back to the dorm."

669

: 00:31:50

And it, we were like 10 miles away.

670

: 00:31:53

So she was like, "Well, try to

find somebody sober," which at that

671

: 00:31:57

point it's on the honor system if

somebody tells you they're sober.

672

: 00:32:00

But people's faces were blurred.

673

: 00:32:02

You know, for, like in an Aphex Twin

video or a Tool video, they'll put

674

: 00:32:05

that blur effect on the person's face.

675

: 00:32:07

That's what people

676

: 00:32:08

Beck: Hey

677

: 00:32:09

Dash: And I, I was like,

"I have to get out of here.

678

: 00:32:11

This is awful."

679

: 00:32:12

And Skip also, he finally…

680

: 00:32:15

And, and, and I asked him, I

was like, "What are you doing?"

681

: 00:32:16

He goes, "I don't know.

682

: 00:32:17

They talked me into it."

683

: 00:32:18

And I really, it made me

worse, like being upside down.

684

: 00:32:21

He was like, "I feel

awful, and I'm terrified."

685

: 00:32:23

And I s- and I had started to have

trouble, like, I was hyperventilating.

686

: 00:32:26

My chest felt tight.

687

: 00:32:28

I said, "I'm trying to find

a way to get us out of here."

688

: 00:32:30

I was like, "Just stay close."

689

: 00:32:31

And so looking out from the outside, we

had to look insane because we were like,

690

: 00:32:36

we were arm in arm, like linked at elbows.

691

: 00:32:39

And we would only go places

together because it was like I

692

: 00:32:43

felt like I was gonna float away.

693

: 00:32:46

And so people knew we

weren't having a good time.

694

: 00:32:49

And so Leah comes back with this guy named

Lucas who was from Williamsburg actually.

695

: 00:32:54

And he was like, "Yeah,

I'll take you home.

696

: 00:32:56

I'm sober."

697

: 00:32:57

I was like, "Okay."

698

: 00:32:58

And we get into his truck.

699

: 00:33:00

He's just…

700

: 00:33:01

It's a nor- I think it was a Ford Ranger.

701

: 00:33:03

So it's three of us sitting

together in the front seat.

702

: 00:33:05

And he, in my memory now, which

I don't know if I can trust,

703

: 00:33:08

was driving like an asshole.

704

: 00:33:10

He was riding up on the curb.

705

: 00:33:13

He was, like, intentionally

running stop signs.

706

: 00:33:16

He was, like, swerving really big.

707

: 00:33:18

And I was just like, I couldn't

tolerate it anymore, and I

708

: 00:33:23

opened the door to jump out.

709

: 00:33:25

and I think we were on, like, Richmond

Road at this point, so we would've been

710

: 00:33:29

going, like, 50 or 60 miles an hour.

711

: 00:33:31

And Skip was like, "Shit!"

712

: 00:33:33

And as he grabbed me and, like, took

the seatbelt and wrapped it around

713

: 00:33:37

my neck to keep me inside the- And

I, I closed the door again, and I, I

714

: 00:33:43

remember him, like, turning to Lucas

and going like, "Whatever it is you

715

: 00:33:46

think you're doing, it is not funny.

716

: 00:33:47

You have to stop."

717

: 00:33:48

and so we made it back to Clay Hall.

718

: 00:33:52

day, I don't know if Luc- Lucas

was fucking with us on purpose.

719

: 00:33:54

He might have just been drunk and

been lying about being sober, or

720

: 00:33:58

maybe I imagined it, and poor Lucas

is driving a raving lunatic home who

721

: 00:34:03

just tried to jump out of his truck

722

: 00:34:07

But we get back to Clay Hall and

I was like, "Okay, it's over.

723

: 00:34:10

We can relax."

724

: 00:34:11

So we go up to Skip's room, put his

tapestries over all the windows, turn

725

: 00:34:17

on, I think we turned on J- Janis Joplin,

and my friend Josh happened to call

726

: 00:34:24

and he was like, "What are y'all doing?

727

: 00:34:26

Are you at the party?"

728

: 00:34:26

And I was like, "We were.

729

: 00:34:27

We left.

730

: 00:34:28

It's awful.

731

: 00:34:29

We're having a horrible time."

732

: 00:34:30

And he was like, "Well,

I'm still on campus.

733

: 00:34:32

Let me come over and smoke you out."

734

: 00:34:34

Like, oh, that's supposed

to calm you down, I guess.

735

: 00:34:38

I- it works on acid.

736

: 00:34:40

I don't think it works on shrooms.

737

: 00:34:41

I think anybody who says it

works on shrooms is full of shit.

738

: 00:34:44

Cause it's an additional psychotropic.

739

: 00:34:46

it, did actually change my mood,

so maybe it did calm me down.

740

: 00:34:50

I became no less sober.

741

: 00:34:52

Came over and he was, like,

trying to make us laugh also.

742

: 00:34:54

He's just a really good guy.

743

: 00:34:56

I'm still friends with him.

744

: 00:34:57

and I was, like, really having

trouble breathing, though.

745

: 00:35:01

My, my lungs were, like…

746

: 00:35:03

It was like I was,

something was sitting on me.

747

: 00:35:05

I found out later that if you have asthma

you absolutely should not take mushrooms.

748

: 00:35:10

and I was terrifying them

'cause I was like, "Hey, guys,

749

: 00:35:12

don't let me stop breathing."

750

: 00:35:13

And Skip was like, "Why would you do that?

751

: 00:35:16

What makes you think you're

gonna stop breathing?

752

: 00:35:18

What do you mean?"

753

: 00:35:19

And I was like, "You know, just in case."

754

: 00:35:21

Like, "What would we do about it?

755

: 00:35:22

How would we accomplish that?

756

: 00:35:24

Please be more specific.

757

: 00:35:25

What's going on?"

758

: 00:35:26

As, so then I was like, "Okay,

I've gotta go to the bathroom.

759

: 00:35:28

I'm, I'm feeling calmer.

760

: 00:35:30

I'll be okay, you know.

761

: 00:35:31

I can go down there by myself."

762

: 00:35:33

So I did.

763

: 00:35:33

I walked down, and it, it was, this was

Clay had just, like, the, the communal

764

: 00:35:37

bathrooms, you know, on the hall, and I

didn't wanna go up to any of the girls.

765

: 00:35:41

I was afraid basically that I

left that plane of existence

766

: 00:35:44

I would become unstable again.

767

: 00:35:47

So I just went into the,

to the boys' bathroom.

768

: 00:35:49

It was a weekend.

769

: 00:35:49

I figured nobody was there.

770

: 00:35:51

I walked inside, and you know

how, like, that disturbing really

771

: 00:35:54

pale blue tile that's along the

walls of those kinds of bathrooms?

772

: 00:35:59

Somebody had taken one of those

mega Sharpies and scrawled unhinged

773

: 00:36:03

song lyrics all over the walls.

774

: 00:36:06

And

775

: 00:36:06

Beck: wow

776

: 00:36:07

Dash: Yeah, I walked in and

I was like, "Is this real?

777

: 00:36:10

If it's real, that's worse."

778

: 00:36:13

Like, "What is this?

779

: 00:36:14

Why is this here?"

780

: 00:36:15

And so I got trapped trying to read

those, and I eventually just lost my

781

: 00:36:18

mind again and ran down the hallway,

like, screaming for Skip and Josh.

782

: 00:36:23

And I was like, "I don't know why, but I

need to know whether it's real or not."

783

: 00:36:27

And so they both went in and

they were like, "No, it's really

784

: 00:36:30

there, and I don't know why.

785

: 00:36:31

Like, it had never been there before.

786

: 00:36:33

We don't know what happened."

787

: 00:36:35

And I, I was like, " I will

never feel this way again.

788

: 00:36:38

I will guarantee you that."

789

: 00:36:39

and I never did.

790

: 00:36:40

I, that was the last time I did mushrooms.

791

: 00:36:43

rest of the night was spent basically

gasping for air and trying to stay calm

792

: 00:36:47

Beck: I'm glad you survived, my friend.

793

: 00:36:50

Dash: Phew

794

: 00:36:50

Beck: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

795

: 00:36:51

Don't do shrooms.

796

: 00:36:52

Nothing good comes from it

797

: 00:36:54

Dash: People are always

like, "But it's natural."

798

: 00:36:56

Arsenic's natural, right?

799

: 00:36:57

Nature

800

: 00:36:58

Beck: Yeah, exactly.

801

: 00:37:00

Tornadoes are natural

802

: 00:37:01

Dash: Yeah.

803

: 00:37:02

The ocean's natural.

804

: 00:37:03

I'm not jumping in it either.

805

: 00:37:05

lysergic acid is water-soluble and

was formulated in a lab, which also

806

: 00:37:10

doesn't guarantee that it's safer,

but it means it's been studied, and

807

: 00:37:13

it means it's always the same fucking

thing, and it means it doesn't have

808

: 00:37:16

Beck: Right?

809

: 00:37:16

Dash: growing on it do you know

what would happen to me right now

810

: 00:37:19

though if I just suddenly decided

to get back into psychedelics?

811

: 00:37:22

Beck: I'm afraid to ask what would happen

812

: 00:37:24

Dash: Well, I don't know either,

but it wouldn't be good ' Cause now

813

: 00:37:27

I, being just dead sober, I can't

even, like, dependably smoke weed.

814

: 00:37:32

It is, it's really a 50/50, maybe

even an 80/20 that I'm gonna

815

: 00:37:35

just freak out and have a panic

attack and need to be taken to a

816

: 00:37:38

Beck: Aww

817

: 00:37:40

Oh, that's sad

818

: 00:37:42

Dash: I think I turned the

self-medication corner on that somehow.

819

: 00:37:46

Maybe it was all the They say that stuff

820

: 00:37:49

Beck: Maybe

821

: 00:37:50

Dash: I know my pattern recognition

d- changed from taking acid

822

: 00:37:54

Beck: Yeah.

823

: 00:37:56

What do you mean?

824

: 00:37:56

Dash: taking acid.

825

: 00:37:57

Maybe it was just my frontal lobe finally,

what, doing whatever it does, maturing.

826

: 00:38:02

So like I, That's when I started

being able to see four-leaf

827

: 00:38:06

clovers whenever I wanted

828

: 00:38:08

Beck: That's awesome

829

: 00:38:09

Dash: a- was around that time.

830

: 00:38:11

And I didn't know, yeah, I don't know,

I don't remember when it started.

831

: 00:38:14

I just remember all of a sudden, like,

look at any clover patch and find a

832

: 00:38:19

four-leaf clover, and I can still do it.

833

: 00:38:21

whatever it

834

: 00:38:21

Beck: That's awesome.

835

: 00:38:22

Dash: Kind of

836

: 00:38:24

knowing that they're literally everywhere.

837

: 00:38:27

I don't know.

838

: 00:38:27

I mean, it still doesn't mean

that you can see them all,

839

: 00:38:29

and most people can't see them

840

: 00:38:36

Beck: I can cross one eye at a time

841

: 00:38:38

Dash: You showed me that

one day and it is…

842

: 00:38:40

Beck: Yehaw

843

: 00:38:40

Dash: you see your nose all the time?

844

: 00:38:42

Like, do you see your nose

845

: 00:38:43

Beck: I think everybody does,

but you learn to ignore it

846

: 00:38:47

Dash: Oh, no, I'm looking

at mine all the time.

847

: 00:38:49

Not only am I looking at it, I'm looking

at four of it, because both eyes sees

848

: 00:38:52

one side, and your eye, your brain

also knows what each eye is seeing.

849

: 00:38:56

So my brain is seeing that one

eye is seeing what the other

850

: 00:38:59

eye sees, if that makes sense

851

: 00:39:00

Beck: I have an extremely small nose,

so maybe that's why I don't see it.

852

: 00:39:04

When I went in to get fitted

for a CPAP machine, they had

853

: 00:39:08

to give me an extra small mask.

854

: 00:39:10

That's the only thing I've ever

had extra small in my life.

855

: 00:39:13

But apparently my nose is extra small.

856

: 00:39:15

When you look at it, there's

just not a lot to it.

857

: 00:39:17

There's just a boop and that's it.

858

: 00:39:19

Dash: Yeah.

859

: 00:39:19

mine was small before I transitioned.

860

: 00:39:21

It's some of the tissue

you grow from testosterone.

861

: 00:39:24

Beck: Gotcha.

862

: 00:39:25

I got a little one.

863

: 00:39:26

My sister's is more upturned

864

: 00:39:27

than mine.

865

: 00:39:28

I'm glad mine didn't go upturned

866

: 00:39:31

sister

867

: 00:39:32

Dash: Ooh, shots fired

868

: 00:39:35

Beck: Yeah.

869

: 00:39:36

She does the more girly stuff and dolls

herself up and does all that stuff,

870

: 00:39:40

so technically she would be the, the

fancier one, but when it comes right

871

: 00:39:43

down to it, I'm prettier than she is

872

: 00:39:45

Dash: Take that.

873

: 00:39:46

Beck: Especially because of

my soul versus her ugly ass

874

: 00:39:48

soul That stuff shines through

875

: 00:39:52

Dash: Oh.

876

: 00:39:53

I, it, it definitely can.

877

: 00:39:55

I mean, I'm, I'm sure that there

are pretty people who are also

878

: 00:39:58

evil husks, but I think a person,

like, as you begin to learn more

879

: 00:40:03

about them, they can't hide it for

880

: 00:40:05

Beck: Yehaw

881

: 00:40:06

Dash: It's there, you know?

882

: 00:40:07

th- I think it's part of, like,

our survival instincts, is to

883

: 00:40:11

be able to kinda detect whether

someone is trustworthy or not

884

: 00:40:16

Beck: Well, yeah, I think so

885

: 00:40:17

Dash: I saw one of those, I don't…

886

: 00:40:19

I think they were a psychologist.

887

: 00:40:20

I don't think it was, like, one of

those behavioral analysis people.

888

: 00:40:22

That's a different thing.

889

: 00:40:23

They were talking about how

psychopaths one of the things that

890

: 00:40:27

about the way they look, or they

often look, I'm sure it isn't total,

891

: 00:40:31

that sets us on edge is their eyes.

892

: 00:40:34

Because the, their facial affect

doesn't work the way a person who is

893

: 00:40:40

in touch with their feelings works.

894

: 00:40:42

So, like, we emote based

on what we're feeling.

895

: 00:40:44

A psychopath doesn't have feelings.

896

: 00:40:46

And if they do, that…

897

: 00:40:48

Don't quote me on that, I

just, that's what I read.

898

: 00:40:50

I'm not a psychologist.

899

: 00:40:50

But, like, even if they do, they're

not, those feel- their feelings aren't

900

: 00:40:54

related to what the person they're

communicating with is experiencing.

901

: 00:40:58

So they're just taking

their best guess at emoting.

902

: 00:41:01

And so a lot of times what happens

is they wind up making their eyes

903

: 00:41:04

really big and wide like this.

904

: 00:41:07

That makes my eyes feel really dry.

905

: 00:41:09

Beck: Yeah.

906

: 00:41:09

Shana had a friend that she made in

group therapy, so red flag number one

907

: 00:41:13

she made the friend in group therapy.

908

: 00:41:15

Dash: You're not

909

: 00:41:17

Beck: yeah, this lady's name

was Penny, and she was bonkers.

910

: 00:41:20

She, she and Shana, like, hung out quite

a bit, and I think the lady, like, was

911

: 00:41:24

crushing on her or something, because she

was always like, "Well, invite Becky over.

912

: 00:41:28

Come over."

913

: 00:41:29

And the, the first time I went over like

five minutes after I got there she was

914

: 00:41:32

like, "Well, I'm leaving," and, like,

walked out of the house and went to

915

: 00:41:35

make moon water or some crazy bullshit.

916

: 00:41:39

She really didn't like me.

917

: 00:41:40

Uh, but she, but in pictures, in

all of her pictures her eyes are

918

: 00:41:43

real big like that, she was crazy

919

: 00:41:45

Dash: I'm not a, I didn't fact-check

it because I'm not able to.

920

: 00:41:48

I don't have the ex- expertise.

921

: 00:41:50

But I mean, it, it would make sense that

a person would struggle to emote in a

922

: 00:41:57

relatable way if they with psychopathy

or something like that, some sort of

923

: 00:42:02

Beck: Yeah

924

: 00:42:02

Dash: disturbance,

925

: 00:42:03

Beck: I think my dad was a sociopath

and, I think my sister takes after him.

926

: 00:42:07

I, I don't think she has a lot of emotions

about things um, except for jealousy

927

: 00:42:11

and anger and, and things like that.

928

: 00:42:14

I think that's why she never liked me.

929

: 00:42:16

I, I think she thought I had a perfect

relationship with my mom, and who has

930

: 00:42:20

a perfect relationship with their mom?

931

: 00:42:22

You know what I mean?

932

: 00:42:23

Like, everybody has some kinda issue, and

my mom and I had our problems for sure.

933

: 00:42:29

Yeah, and I treated mom as human,

as fallible, as oh, that's okay.

934

: 00:42:34

You know?

935

: 00:42:35

She, she wasn't perfect either,

and that's okay, and my sister, ugh

936

: 00:42:40

I get heated when I start

thinking about her, so

937

: 00:42:42

Dash: You're gonna make an appearance?

938

: 00:42:44

You don't do a lot of podcasting

939

: 00:42:46

Beck: Hello, kitty, kitty,

kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty.

940

: 00:42:49

With your face so white and black

941

: 00:42:51

Dash: He's my 14-year-old distinguished

gentleman You're gonna have to

942

: 00:42:55

decide where you're gonna be though.

943

: 00:42:57

He still wants to climb on

stuff, but he can't get himself

944

: 00:42:59

down ' cause he's got arthritis

945

: 00:43:01

Beck: Yeah.

946

: 00:43:02

Pete is 13 and she's starting to be

bitey about if you touch her in, in,

947

: 00:43:06

on her feet or stuff like that, so

948

: 00:43:09

Dash: Yeah, he doesn't love it.

949

: 00:43:10

And I got him some stairs and he won't use

them ' cause, uh, he's extremely stubborn.

950

: 00:43:16

Maybe the most stubborn cat I've ever met.

951

: 00:43:19

Definitely the most stubborn one

I've ever owned Well, thanks for

952

: 00:43:21

listening to our stories, everybody.

953

: 00:43:25

I'm not even sure if that's what I

meant by anecdote when I put that on

954

: 00:43:28

there at the time, but works for me

955

: 00:43:31

Beck: Works for me

956

: 00:43:32

Dash: Well, maybe let's hear

from this week's sponsor.

957

: 00:43:35

Ba, ba, bow.

958

: 00:43:35

Oh This week's episode of Queernecks

is brought to you by Local Honey.

959

: 00:43:40

the proper noun Local Honey, not just

honey, not local honey, but Local Honey.

960

: 00:43:45

The distinction between it and any

old nationally distributed honey

961

: 00:43:49

matters to the people who sell

it, and it should matter to you.

962

: 00:43:52

Here's the lore as it was given to me by a

named Deb in a parking lot in: 1997

963

: 00:43:57

You eat a spoonful of honey made by bees

within a 15-mile radius of your house.

964

: 00:44:02

Those bees have been rolling

around in the exact pollen

965

: 00:44:05

that's currently murdering you.

966

: 00:44:07

ingest a small amount of your

enemy and take away its power.

967

: 00:44:11

Your body learns and grows stronger

with each dose, and by August,

968

: 00:44:14

you can walk through a field of

goldenrod like Jesus on the water.

969

: 00:44:18

Deb said all this seated behind her

card table with a fly swat and a level

970

: 00:44:22

of eye contact I have not encountered

since, so naturally, I believed her.

971

: 00:44:26

Treating seasonal allergies is

only the beginning of the wonders

972

: 00:44:29

local honey can perform, however.

973

: 00:44:31

Once you're eating it regularly,

apparently, it starts connecting to your

974

: 00:44:35

natural environment, which in my case is

a coal mining town with two spotlights.

975

: 00:44:40

I felt connected to it

genuinely zero stars.

976

: 00:44:43

You can keep it.

977

: 00:44:44

Once you're connected to the place,

though, I guess it starts repairing

978

: 00:44:47

you, 'cause the next list of benefits

is straight medical pseudoscience.

979

: 00:44:51

For instance, if you have a bad

back, rub the honey directly onto

980

: 00:44:55

the skin, which nobody has ever done.

981

: 00:44:57

You can't convince me they have,

including the people recommending it.

982

: 00:45:00

Or how a spoonful before bed is

supposed to put you to sleep, which my

983

: 00:45:05

grandmother treated as settled science.

984

: 00:45:07

She also took one before she drove for

alertness, though, which is on brand

985

: 00:45:10

for her contradictory nature of beliefs.

986

: 00:45:13

It is allegedly good for your skin if

you apply it directly, which some people

987

: 00:45:16

do, mostly in winter at night alone,

which is fine, in fact, preferable.

988

: 00:45:21

Apparently, it works on a cough about as

well as the stuff in the orange bottle,

989

: 00:45:25

which is either a strong endorsement

for local honey or a weak endorsement

990

: 00:45:29

for the stuff in the orange bottle.

991

: 00:45:31

It's also said to be a diabetic aid, which

I pass along without comment because I

992

: 00:45:34

genuinely cannot tell if that's a dare.

993

: 00:45:37

Deb told me very casually, like she

was mentioning the weather, that it

994

: 00:45:40

fixes a marriage that's gone quiet.

995

: 00:45:42

I don't know what that means.

996

: 00:45:44

Like, not a bad marriage.

997

: 00:45:45

You still need either the

sheriff or a shovel for that one.

998

: 00:45:48

Just a quiet one.

999

: 00:45:49

You put a jar between you at dinner,

and you eat off the same spoon, and

: 1000

00:45:53,505 --> 00:45:55,265

eventually, one of you says something.

: 1001

00:45:55,565 --> 00:45:59,238

I neither asked her nor

hoped she would elaborate.

: 1002

00:45:59,838 --> 00:46:01,898

I'm aware none of this holds up in court.

: 1003

00:46:02,193 --> 00:46:06,093

I'm only passing along what I was told

by people who were told it by people who

: 1004

00:46:06,093 --> 00:46:08,033

are dead and can't be cross-examined.

: 1005

00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:13,613

What's important is the idea of the

lore and not whether it actually works.

: 1006

00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:17,343

So that's local honey available

in any peddler's mall parking

: 1007

00:46:17,343 --> 00:46:19,513

lot from a woman at a card table

: 1008

00:46:19,801 --> 00:46:20,281

Beck: That's awesome

: 1009

00:46:20,331 --> 00:46:20,901

I love honey.

: 1010

00:46:20,901 --> 00:46:22,831

It's my favorite dipping

sauce for chicken nuggets

: 1011

00:46:23,431 --> 00:46:23,731

Dash: What?

: 1012

00:46:24,218 --> 00:46:24,429

Beck: Yeah.

: 1013

00:46:24,518 --> 00:46:24,658

Dash: You

: 1014

00:46:24,789 --> 00:46:28,329

Beck: If you get chicken nuggets and honey

and the french fries, it's delicious.

: 1015

00:46:28,589 --> 00:46:32,019

If you get chicken nuggets at McDonald's,

they have honey as a dipping sauce

: 1016

00:46:32,619 --> 00:46:33,189

Dash: Yeah, they ring.

: 1017

00:46:33,209 --> 00:46:36,999

I worked at McDonald's and s- like, I

still wouldn't do th- but it does, I

: 1018

00:46:36,999 --> 00:46:38,959

think I do remember that that's an option.

: 1019

00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:40,979

Beck: It's the salty and sweet.

: 1020

00:46:41,099 --> 00:46:41,839

Really good.

: 1021

00:46:41,869 --> 00:46:43,699

The savory and, and super sweet.

: 1022

00:46:43,709 --> 00:46:45,229

It's delicious, IMO.

: 1023

00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,269

The fries in it are really good too.

: 1024

00:46:47,269 --> 00:46:50,019

Even if you don't want chicken nuggets,

the fries dipped in honey are really good

: 1025

00:46:50,619 --> 00:46:53,979

Dash: Yeah, I could see that

'cause I, I like you know, the

: 1026

00:46:53,979 --> 00:46:55,959

Wendy's Frosty and french fries.

: 1027

00:46:56,173 --> 00:46:58,883

Did I tell you that I found a Dairy Queen

: 1028

00:46:59,427 --> 00:46:59,727

Beck: Ooh

: 1029

00:47:00,907 --> 00:47:01,507

Dash: Yeah.

: 1030

00:47:01,977 --> 00:47:07,307

Like, by nearby, you know, 20 minutes,

but the, there's a, a little town down

: 1031

00:47:07,307 --> 00:47:11,417

by this trail I take my bike to right

on the border of South Dakota, and I was

: 1032

00:47:11,417 --> 00:47:14,937

coming out the back way of the trail, and

there's a Dairy Queen just sitting there

: 1033

00:47:15,537 --> 00:47:16,657

Beck: That's awesome

: 1034

00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:17,340

Dash: Yehaw.

: 1035

00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:18,790

Like, how did you get here?

: 1036

00:47:19,390 --> 00:47:21,380

Beck: We, we have a Dairy

Queen about 20 minutes away.

: 1037

00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:23,750

They're, they're sparsely

populated around here.

: 1038

00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,430

So if you want actual Dairy Queen, you

have to go about 20 miles to Napoleon.

: 1039

00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:31,650

But they have ice cream cake

cupcakes there, so you can have

: 1040

00:47:31,650 --> 00:47:33,610

ice cream cake whenever you want

: 1041

00:47:34,210 --> 00:47:34,770

Dash: Wow

: 1042

00:47:34,797 --> 00:47:36,517

Beck: like m- that's amazing to me.

: 1043

00:47:36,517 --> 00:47:38,917

That's the, the peak of

civilization right there.

: 1044

00:47:39,187 --> 00:47:39,997

We've made it

: 1045

00:47:40,597 --> 00:47:43,957

Dash: That's like that meme of

Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear,

: 1046

00:47:44,557 --> 00:47:47,427

looking at, you know, he's pointing,

he's gesturing to a car and he

: 1047

00:47:47,437 --> 00:47:52,467

said, "That is America's only known

contribution to advanced civilization."

: 1048

00:47:54,608 --> 00:47:56,658

He was talking about turning

right on a red light, but

: 1049

00:47:57,010 --> 00:47:57,480

Beck: Yeah.

: 1050

00:47:57,870 --> 00:47:59,040

I would think that's ranch.

: 1051

00:47:59,050 --> 00:48:03,180

Ranch dressing is the American, like,

that's the contribution to the world

: 1052

00:48:03,390 --> 00:48:06,860

Dash: what the the

World Cup visitors said.

: 1053

00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:09,140

were just, like, blown away by ranch.

: 1054

00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:14,190

That really does, that is very, like,

Brit- Britain-coded, ran- ranches

: 1055

00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:17,310

Beck: I follow this girl that, uh,

she just kept showing up in my feed.

: 1056

00:48:17,310 --> 00:48:19,770

I don't know if I actually follow her

or not, but she shows up all the time.

: 1057

00:48:20,060 --> 00:48:23,900

She's, I don't know, maybe 19, 20,

21, somewhere in that age range, and

: 1058

00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:27,730

she's forever trying American snacks,

and she's British, and she tried

: 1059

00:48:27,730 --> 00:48:29,790

the ranch and absolutely loved it.

: 1060

00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,190

So yeah, that's, that's

been my experience too.

: 1061

00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:34,150

They love the ranch

: 1062

00:48:34,750 --> 00:48:39,600

Dash: I mean, it is flavorful,

and if, if you are into texture

: 1063

00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,010

like that, you're gonna love it.

: 1064

00:48:41,610 --> 00:48:44,290

I saw a YouTube headline.

: 1065

00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:47,717

I posted this on Facebook it was

like 3:00 in the morning, but some

: 1066

00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:54,207

zygote made a video and called it, " I

played boomer Resident Evil games-

: 1067

00:48:54,807 --> 00:48:57,388

Boomer What do you think boomer means?

: 1068

00:48:57,988 --> 00:49:00,158

Do you think boomers are 38 years old?

: 1069

00:49:00,758 --> 00:49:01,668

Beck: They're just old now.

: 1070

00:49:01,678 --> 00:49:03,058

That's what I think that's what it means.

: 1071

00:49:03,658 --> 00:49:04,459

I've been called a boomer

: 1072

00:49:04,845 --> 00:49:08,355

Dash: Yeah, boomer, boomer just means

out of touch, which is interesting

: 1073

00:49:08,955 --> 00:49:10,295

Beck: All of my parents were boomers

: 1074

00:49:10,895 --> 00:49:13,465

Dash: Do you remember

the roast of Ann Coulter?

: 1075

00:49:14,065 --> 00:49:14,425

This is a

: 1076

00:49:14,509 --> 00:49:14,889

Beck: No

: 1077

00:49:15,489 --> 00:49:17,969

Dash: It's not entirely a, a topic shift.

: 1078

00:49:18,569 --> 00:49:20,799

It was one of the original,

like, Friars Roast ones.

: 1079

00:49:20,799 --> 00:49:22,259

I think it was on Comedy Central.

: 1080

00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:25,569

But, uh, something…

: 1081

00:49:25,959 --> 00:49:27,469

I actually don't know why

I brought up the roast.

: 1082

00:49:27,469 --> 00:49:28,409

This has nothing to do with it.

: 1083

00:49:29,009 --> 00:49:29,439

So the…

: 1084

00:49:29,449 --> 00:49:32,249

When, when people first started saying

boomer, I guess it's just that Ann

: 1085

00:49:32,249 --> 00:49:38,189

Coulter is largely an irredeemable piece

of shit, but she did something one time

: 1086

00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:40,699

that I was just like, "What in the hell?

: 1087

00:49:40,709 --> 00:49:41,859

Did that really come outta her mouth?"

: 1088

00:49:42,279 --> 00:49:47,591

So this was during the rise of,

"Okay, boomer," and were in their

: 1089

00:49:47,591 --> 00:49:50,581

feelings about that being a diss.

: 1090

00:49:51,181 --> 00:49:55,221

And somebody was on her show and

they said, "Yeah, it's becoming

: 1091

00:49:55,241 --> 00:49:58,441

a slur tantamount to the N-word."

: 1092

00:50:00,807 --> 00:50:02,287

which first of all,

: 1093

00:50:02,532 --> 00:50:03,462

it's not a slur.

: 1094

00:50:04,122 --> 00:50:04,612

an insult.

: 1095

00:50:04,622 --> 00:50:05,512

There's a difference, right?

: 1096

00:50:05,512 --> 00:50:05,779

Just because

: 1097

00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:06,509

Beck: Yeah

: 1098

00:50:06,809 --> 00:50:07,742

Dash: doesn't make it a slur.

: 1099

00:50:08,342 --> 00:50:11,572

But she said, that is asinine," right?

: 1100

00:50:11,572 --> 00:50:13,522

Like, "Nothing is as bad as the N-word.

: 1101

00:50:13,562 --> 00:50:16,722

Black people in America

experienced Jim Crow, slavery,

: 1102

00:50:16,932 --> 00:50:19,092

institutionalized racism, red line…"

: 1103

00:50:19,092 --> 00:50:24,742

She names off all of these things that

of like, institutionalized racism against

: 1104

00:50:24,742 --> 00:50:28,022

Black people in America specifically,

and just reads this man for filth

: 1105

00:50:28,252 --> 00:50:29,792

on suggesting something so stupid.

: 1106

00:50:29,792 --> 00:50:33,211

And I was like, I'm not gonna read too

much into it, but, if you put a gun

: 1107

00:50:33,211 --> 00:50:36,261

to ma- my head and I had to eulogize

her, that's the story I would tell,

: 1108

00:50:36,261 --> 00:50:38,711

'cause that's the only decent thing

to my knowledge she's ever done.

: 1109

00:50:39,457 --> 00:50:39,717

Beck: Yehaw

: 1110

00:50:39,883 --> 00:50:40,713

Dash: It was random

: 1111

00:50:41,044 --> 00:50:43,604

Beck: Well, even a stopped clock

is right twice a, twice a day

: 1112

00:50:44,204 --> 00:50:45,394

Dash: Yehaw Truth.

: 1113

00:50:45,654 --> 00:50:51,414

It's like Sean Strickland and his

criticism of Trump and that he's still a

: 1114

00:50:51,414 --> 00:50:54,054

fucking homophobe and massive transphobe.

: 1115

00:50:54,654 --> 00:50:57,724

Dang did you see that shit about JK

Rowling and Amnesty International?

: 1116

00:50:58,107 --> 00:50:59,417

Beck: No, I haven't seen that

: 1117

00:50:59,714 --> 00:51:06,764

Dash: So Amnesty International, uh, post-

or published a report and used a f- the

: 1118

00:51:06,764 --> 00:51:14,334

phrase anti-rights to describe a handful

of lobbyists, lobbying organizations or

: 1119

00:51:14,334 --> 00:51:18,192

whatever, that to restrict rights for…

: 1120

00:51:18,202 --> 00:51:21,552

Like, it was, it was really an accurate

description, and one of them was

: 1121

00:51:21,572 --> 00:51:26,252

the anti-trans movement, and maybe

they even named her specifically.

: 1122

00:51:26,252 --> 00:51:27,392

I didn't read their report.

: 1123

00:51:27,553 --> 00:51:33,843

so she reached into her infinite bag of

money said, "I'll cover the legal fees

: 1124

00:51:33,853 --> 00:51:38,288

of anybody that wants to sue Amnesty

International for calling transphobes,

: 1125

00:51:38,328 --> 00:51:44,858

basically, and specifically transphobic,

lobbies anti-rights," which is incredible.

: 1126

00:51:44,868 --> 00:51:48,158

So, like, uh, just thousands

of people sued them.

: 1127

00:51:48,758 --> 00:51:50,958

And so they, they walked it back.

: 1128

00:51:50,968 --> 00:51:54,008

Not only did they, like, walk

it back, they apologized to her.

: 1129

00:51:54,608 --> 00:51:56,268

Amnesty International.

: 1130

00:51:56,718 --> 00:52:01,548

Like, we've got the Democrat, Democrat

candidates for, uh, in gubernatorial

: 1131

00:52:01,548 --> 00:52:10,142

races and Senate races trans girls boys

and refusing to, uh, sign, agreements

: 1132

00:52:10,142 --> 00:52:12,822

for including trans rights and things.

: 1133

00:52:13,102 --> 00:52:17,232

Nobody, n- nobody's holding these folks

to it anymore, and so they're just giving

: 1134

00:52:17,232 --> 00:52:23,464

up ' Cause they've learned, a person

doesn't have to go whole hog and be

: 1135

00:52:23,464 --> 00:52:27,294

like, "Okay, so Trump's been, Trump and

his idiots are being rewarded for being

: 1136

00:52:27,294 --> 00:52:32,954

the way they are, which means can not be

that bad and still be technically good."

: 1137

00:52:33,554 --> 00:52:33,974

Like, we've

: 1138

00:52:34,294 --> 00:52:34,594

Beck: Right?

: 1139

00:52:35,194 --> 00:52:37,224

Yeah We absolutely have

: 1140

00:52:43,192 --> 00:52:46,772

Dash: It reminds me, speaking of

Csenge, when, when I first met her, I

: 1141

00:52:46,772 --> 00:52:51,292

think Hungary has changed a lot in the

amount of time then, but at the time

: 1142

00:52:51,332 --> 00:52:55,472

we were talking about voting, the, the,

this was: 2015

: 1143

00:52:55,482 --> 00:52:59,472

thing or whatever, and we, we were

discussing the third party problem.

: 1144

00:53:00,072 --> 00:53:04,722

And she said, "Yeah," she said something

that, it's still one of my favorite

: 1145

00:53:04,722 --> 00:53:08,262

things I've ever heard, but repeating

it still shocks me, 'cause she said,

: 1146

00:53:08,262 --> 00:53:10,482

"Yeah, I, I, uh, I vote Nazi Party."

: 1147

00:53:10,797 --> 00:53:13,205

And I was like, " Okay.

: 1148

00:53:13,805 --> 00:53:14,755

Walk me through that."

: 1149

00:53:15,145 --> 00:53:18,255

And she said, "Well, voting

is compulsory in Hungary.

: 1150

00:53:18,315 --> 00:53:20,185

Like, you'll go to

prison if you don't vote.

: 1151

00:53:20,785 --> 00:53:23,575

And they're the leftists.

: 1152

00:53:23,705 --> 00:53:25,545

The Nazis are the leftists.

: 1153

00:53:25,975 --> 00:53:28,145

The other party is somehow worse."

: 1154

00:53:28,185 --> 00:53:31,782

And I was like, "Oh my I'm never

again using the phrase lesser of two

: 1155

00:53:31,782 --> 00:53:34,192

evils," without really meaning it.

: 1156

00:53:34,792 --> 00:53:36,892

I can't ima- what would

that do to your brain?

: 1157

00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:38,089

Beck: Yeah.

: 1158

00:53:38,363 --> 00:53:39,103

That's crazy

: 1159

00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:43,824

Dash: used to it, but like one

of the most like progressive,

: 1160

00:53:43,834 --> 00:53:48,574

sweetest, thoughtful people I've

ever known votes is a registered Nazi

: 1161

00:53:49,174 --> 00:53:50,164

Beck: That's wild

: 1162

00:53:50,833 --> 00:53:54,323

Dash: Literal one though, not like the

ideological kind that we have in America.

: 1163

00:53:54,753 --> 00:53:57,853

And I'm not saying that that's

better, it's just that's what

: 1164

00:53:57,853 --> 00:53:59,803

compulsory voting can turn into

: 1165

00:54:00,403 --> 00:54:03,623

Beck: Yeah Do you have to

declare a party then, I guess?

: 1166

00:54:04,067 --> 00:54:05,047

Dash: That's a good question.

: 1167

00:54:05,067 --> 00:54:08,227

I didn't clarify that, so maybe you don't.

: 1168

00:54:08,827 --> 00:54:09,377

Um

: 1169

00:54:09,409 --> 00:54:12,149

Beck: I, I identify as a

independent for a reason.

: 1170

00:54:12,149 --> 00:54:15,149

I don't wanna be identified

as either Republican or

: 1171

00:54:15,179 --> 00:54:18,089

Democratic, so I stay independent

: 1172

00:54:18,689 --> 00:54:19,219

Dash: And depending on where

: 1173

00:54:19,769 --> 00:54:20,999

can have consequences too

: 1174

00:54:21,388 --> 00:54:21,918

Beck: Yeah.

: 1175

00:54:22,218 --> 00:54:22,938

Yeah, for sure

: 1176

00:54:23,488 --> 00:54:24,628

Dash: Csenge's a listener now.

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I'm so sorry that I just outed

you When you get to this episode,

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you let me know if you're mad.

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Beck: We love you.

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Dash: We love you.

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Beck: We are big fans

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Dash: and tell us stories I mean,

uh, uh, so, so often the things

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she said were mind-blowing to me.

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It's like, man, you really think you know

how bad it can get because you're in a

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bad spot, and then somebody from Hungary

tells you, "You ain't heard nothing yet."

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: Oh, me get my, let me get

the wheel, what have you, up here.

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It always closes Okay, let's see Le-

maybe I should recap what all the

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options are, 'cause I don't think

we've done that since we introduced it.

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We've d- had, we've

had quite a few so far.

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So we have done movie review, book report,

we did word game, we did social media.

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we've done all but one of them.

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We, we did joke thief, we did YouTube

night, and now we've done anecdote.

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we just pick the last one, or should we…

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Beck: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What's the last one?

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Dash: Show and tell.

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So what I had in mind for this, and it

can, it's open for discussion, was we we

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can bring, each of us brings one or more,

uh, of the weird items we've collected.

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I don't know,

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Beck: the perfect item for this.

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already picked out.

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Dash: Yeah, I, I've got a lot of strange

stuff too, and so w- there's some things

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we could do with it too, like y- we, we

can maybe try to play 20 Questions with

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it, like try to guess what the hell it is

or why you have it or something like that.

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Like, maybe, maybe we present the item and

ask a q- ask the person to guess something

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about it, like we ask a question.

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I don't know, that's half-baked.

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Or we can just do a little presentation

about the item But yeah, that'll be fun.

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I've got a lot of weird stuff.

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You've got a lot of weird stuff You

could do two truths and a lie the item.

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Beck: I don't know what my

truths would be about this item

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Dash: Oh, now that's an

interesting statement

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Beck: I'd have to think on that

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Dash: Yeah, we've got time.

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Oh, I better pick it up.

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Well, can we record, uh, can

we plan to record Wednesday?

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'Cause I'm gonna try to

leave town on Thursday

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Beck: Sure

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Dash: Sweet

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Okay.

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Uh, well, thanks for

another week everyone.

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Thanks for being friends with Queernecks.

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Thanks for listening to us ramble, for

some reason being interested in what we're

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doing here Hope everybody has a good week.

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I'm sweaty.

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Say hi to your mom and them.

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Beck: Bye