Episode 51

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Published on:

18th May 2026

The Poison Ivy League

Hosts Beck and Dash open the Queernecks episode discussing a frightening car incident in Toledo where their dog Ru appeared to have an asthma attack and has a vet appointment Monday. They then talk about modern roast culture after seeing clips from the Kevin Hart roast, including Chelsea Handler’s jab at a MAGA comedian, mention Tony Hinchcliffe’s George Floyd joke, and discuss boundaries, context, and craft in comedy, referencing Penn & Teller’s Bullshit, the Aristocrats joke, Gilbert Gottfried after 9/11, and Seinfeld’s “political correctness” complaints, plus “retro sexism” in advertising and SNL’s post‑9/11 Giuliani moment. They touch on British competition shows, Dash’s faculty job interview and higher-ed pay/culture, a satirical “buy here, pay here” sponsor bit, car histories and maintenance, and Beck’s “noun of Appalachian interest” on Matewan, WV and the 1920 Mine Wars. They close with movie ideas, audiobooks, biking/cleaning plans, and queer music recommendations.

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00:00 Podcast Welcome

00:26 Ru’s Scary Asthma Attack

01:33 Living With Asthma

02:57 Kevin Hart Roast Fallout

04:31 When Roasts Turn Cruel

08:10 The Aristocrats and 9/11

10:45 Can You Joke About Anything

15:15 Retro Sexism in Ads

19:15 SNL After 9/11

22:26 British Reality Competitions

23:17 Great Pottery Throw Down Love

27:27 Faculty Interview Nerves

32:15 Campus Ego and Low Pay

33:51 Writing Routine and Online Teaching

34:41 New Job Logistics and Summer Break

35:13 Sponsor Buy Here Pay Here

37:34 Car Histories and Salvage Rides

40:35 Oil Changes and Four Wheel Fun

43:39 Noun Matewan Mine Wars

47:03 Appalshop and Film Talk

49:53 Queer Cinema Pairings

53:39 Audiobooks Count as Reading

55:23 Scary Movie Plans and Theater Anxiety

59:52 Foxy Merkins Pick and Discord

01:02:58 Wrap Up Music and Goodbyes

Transcript
Beck:

Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that puts the yehaw in y'all means all.

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I'm your host, Beck.

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Dash: And I am your host, Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode

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I kind of forgot that's what we were

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Beck: that's what we were

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Dash: Just talking away and now

Ziggy's gonna be talking to us.

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That's fine.

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Beck: we found out yesterday

that RU has asthma.

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I,

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Dash: Or baby.

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Do you have to do, do you have to

do that thing where you put her in a

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box with a nebulizer?

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Beck: Well, she has an

appointment at the vet on Monday.

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We were driving through Toledo down 75,

and she starts making this noise from the

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backseat and we're like, "What the hell?"

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And we pulled over in a

really sketchy neighborhood.

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It was, it was scary.

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Like, everything was boarded up

and, like, it was just not fun.

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And we stopped at this little gas

station, and Shannon did a finger

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sweep of her throat because it sounded

like it was, like, clicking, like

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there was something stuck in there.

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And she was just having an asthma attack,

and it went on for about 10 minutes.

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Finally calmed her down and she quit.

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And that was pretty much all that

happened, but, like, I was ready

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to take her to the animal ER.

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Like, I didn't know what was happening.

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But we called, and they said that

she'd probably be okay if she had

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another episode or her lips started,

or her not her lips, her tongue or

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her gums started turning blue, you

know, bring her in, So we kept a good

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eye on her, and she seems to be okay.

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But that was very scary.

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I've never had a dog do that to me before.

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Dash: Yeah, maybe it was,

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Maybe she was anxious

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being

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in the car, or...

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I don't know what causes asthma.

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in, in other animals.

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But sometimes for, for me, mine, don't

have much trouble with it, uh, at anymore,

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uh, now that I'm older.

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But, if I get into a certain environmental

allergen, then it'll really flare

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up and it it's more than I think for

if somebody, if doesn't have asthma.

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It's

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hard to imagine what it feels

like, because it's, it's,

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like, yeah, you get the tightness

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and wheezing in your chest

But it happens to your

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whole body too.

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You this like it feels like

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a hangover almost.

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Um, It's like borderline anaphylaxis

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you get feverish and stuff.

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I still get exercise induced asthma

occasionally and environmental allergen

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induced Like, I keep an inhaler, but I

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mostly only need it when I'm sick.

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Beck: I keep I also keep an inhaler

um, 'cause I have issues sometimes

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with, They've said I asthma, but

I've never had a real asthma attack.

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I've had the tightness and I can't

breathe very well, that kind of thing.

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Dash: Yeah.

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Beck: I'll get to coughing

and can't quit, and a struggle

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for breath when that happens.

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So that's when I use mine.

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But I've never seen anything like

what happened with Ru last night.

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It was scary.

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And her nickname seems to be coming

Monkey Butt because that's what she is.

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So it's ru but she's a little Monkey Butt.

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Dash: Holler Rudy.

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Beck: Yeah, Rudy, Toot tooting.

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Rudy, Rudy, Ru.

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Dash: Did

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You watch

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The roast of

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Kevin Hart?

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Beck: I did not.

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Dash: I mean, I don't recommend it.

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: But I saw

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clips,

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which that's how I, engage with

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a lot of media that I don't

really feel like actually watching

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but like, I, I'm

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interested in being abreast of it, you

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know?

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And if I think

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maybe that's just normal for

everyone, but I saw a lot of people.

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Talking about it

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the one

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was the one thing

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that was really, people have said a

lot about is Chelsea Handler's joke

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about oh, who was, I don't

even know how to Google

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this.

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I'm trying to, she was making fun of,

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was, who

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was--

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it?

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Chelsea Handler

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Yeah.

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oh, who the

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fuck was this guy?

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Something.

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Tony Hinchcliffe,

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some

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MAGA,

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comedian, which

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that in itself

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is conservatives do not

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have comedy,

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Beck: Right.

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Dash: And

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and many a person more educated in comedy

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has done a, a think piece on that Uh,

one of my favorite, um, deep dives on

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it was from a YouTuber named Big Joel.

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he has this Like hours long

of conservative comedy.

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historical analysis going back to

like, the, what you would call like

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the inception of the modern stand-up

comic, uh, in the seventies,

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late sixties, early

seventies to present day.

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I think that it's called

conservative Comedy

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Broke My Brain or

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something like that.

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So they're just not

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Beck: so not

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Dash: but

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Beck: roast,

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Dash: all,

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Beck: first of all,

roast become something.

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Dash: don't

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Beck: a

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Dash: that roast has a definition.

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and they used to

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be private among a group of people that

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share a discourse.

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They

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share a community like

the Friars Club roasts.

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that's the, the that has

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become popular.

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and they started televising those And

then that brought people who don't know

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anything about comedy into the equation.

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and It brought ratings into

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the equation.

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And so roasts changed

significantly to just cat fighting.

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there's a lot

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of cat

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fighting at roasts and

just being like, cruel

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and

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weird and

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disgusting

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and personal

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I still think

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Beck: I think

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Dash: could say

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Beck: you say that what

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Dash: not in the spirit of roast.

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did make me

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laugh though because it

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was a woman calling a

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specific thing out.

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She, this guy, you know, all of

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the, the

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MAGA.

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Comedians.

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said something like,

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your favorite pedophile president Is

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reinstating the draft.

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You must be excited that you can

your money where your mouth is

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and go fight in the war or

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whatever.

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And she said, Or do you pussies only go

to the Middle East for comedy festivals?"

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Talking about the Riyadh Festival.

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So I was like

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wow.

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You know, "Tell

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'em, but apparently that was

par for the course, that kind

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of thing Or worse, more personal

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was the majority of this

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whole event.

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And the thing that most people are

talking about specifically, like the

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black folks that I follow are talking

about um, Kat Williams, set on Kevin Hart.

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do you know about their

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Beck: Do you

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Dash: Kat

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Beck: No.

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Dash: Hart

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is it's personal, it's legendary and It's

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old, it goes way back.

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And didn't even try to bring

the others into the room to, it.

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He was just up there, speaking practically

to Kevin Hart and just saying the

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meanest shit he could come up with.

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And when he got up

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there, he goes

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like, I can't believe

they invited me to this.

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like, y'all know I hate this guy.

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Right?

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And we were like, okay, sure.

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That can work.

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For instance It

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worked in the roast of William Shatner

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A lot

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of

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or a few of his Star Trek

co-stars didn't like him much.

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Uh, any, a specific

example is George Decay.

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They didn't get along

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Shatner's, apparently a, a legendary

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asshole.

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And so George Decay attended the

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roast, but he still made jokes.

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the kind of jokes at Shatner's

expense that were professional, right?

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About how his weird

acting style or something.

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this was just

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like apparently beyond the pale.

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It was making jokes about him

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being at Diddy's, parties.

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Beck: Oh, wow.

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Dash: Yeah

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Beck: The only thing I have really

seen about it is, is Black people

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talking about how they would not

allow that shit from white people.

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And I, I didn't watch it, so I

don't know the context for that.

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But apparently there was

some racist shit going on.

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Dash: Oh

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there, I think it was this fucking,

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Tony Hinchcliffe guy made

a joke about George Floyd

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Beck: Oh.

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Dash: Why would you do that

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Beck: oh,

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Dash: I mean, I guess that's

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Beck: I

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Dash: just up what

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I

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was talking about.

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like roasts aren't roasts anymore.

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This is something that I I was

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talking about this with Claire, which has

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got me thinking about

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Do you ever watch Penn

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Beck: What?

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Dash: Teller's bullshit

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Beck: Bullshit.

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No.

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Dash: Check it out I

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Beck: Check it out.

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Dash: what it's

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Beck: I

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dunno what's

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Dash: the only one of its kind

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And it was just the two of them would

delve into various topics and decide

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if

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they were real or bullshit.

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Surprising things like I learned

a lot about the Cult of Alcoholics

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Beck: Alcoholic anonymous.

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Dash: on But they also

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Beck: they also

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Dash: on the Aristocrats, which

is a famous, This joke really

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Beck: this joke really s.

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Dash: from

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rest of us, right?

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Like, this is a joke.

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'cause the punchline is stupid.

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It's about the performance

and how you tell it.

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and it's, it's

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kind of

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the,

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Beck: Kind of

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Dash: joke of

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like a, like a family's

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trying

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out for a circus act, and it starts off

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kind of normal, or whatever.

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and they keep

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getting into more and more grotesque

things like really taboo things

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this family is doing, like scat

incest and horrible things to

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try out for

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Beck: to try out

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Dash: circus.

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And then At the end of their

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acts,

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the

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Beck: act,

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Dash: says, Wow okay

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Beck: wow, okay.

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Dash: call that And they

said, the aristocrats.

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And so it's

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it's a dumb like, ha ha,

it's, it was all low class

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humor and but

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they're they're named the

aristocrats, The dumbest

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punchline.

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but for comedians, it's how

much can you embellish the

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acts that

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these, this family is

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doing?

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and

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how can you how can you make a new

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Beck: you

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make

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Dash: And how can you pair that with

the context of a circus, whatever

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you wanna do So they produced a

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documentary

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called the Aris

Aristocrats about this joke

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which I also recommend.

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Really, really fun documentary.

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has a lot of

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Beck: a lot

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Dash: hitters

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in it.

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And it, it's actually a

really good insight into the

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culture of, of

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comedians, of standup, if you're

interested in that kind of thing.

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But he tell-

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there's a story in

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there, pen Gillette tells a

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story of a roast.

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It was a Friars Club roast

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shortly after nine 11.

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Gilbert Godfrey was up and he decided

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to do a set on

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attacks

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on,

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You know,

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he was talking about doing bits on flying,

doing bits on, hijacking, what have you.

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the audience

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they weren't having it, You

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know, they sort of erupted in, in,

booze and they were saying too soon.

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and so

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Beck: And so

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the

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Dash: on the spot into doing what

a lot of people will pinpoint

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as the first documented public

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performance

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of the aristocrats.

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And he starts telling his

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version of this joke And the way

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a lot of people

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Beck: the way, a lot of people talk about

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Dash: is that it was

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really important.

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it

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Beck: really important.

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Dash: moment, a paradigm shift

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in comedy and roasting.

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But to me

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Beck: But to

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Dash: it's significant

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that there became

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something like that

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that even comedians wouldn't joke about.

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how I don't know We still

don't joke about nine 11.

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Well people do but like, it's

still pretty rare a lot of people

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will say like, Oh that's too far

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Beck: Yeah.

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Well, I mean, true comedy, there's

room for jokes about everything,

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Dash: Sure

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Beck: There's a way to make a

joke about literally anything.

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It's in the, the approach

that you, you take to it.

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There's something funny in

every situation, you know?

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I mean, not...

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I don't know about George Floyd.

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That just seems too far.

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There are some things that...

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But then again, nine 11, you know,

4,000, 5,000 people died in that, and...

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I don't know.

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What, what what are we

allowed to make fun of?

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Once we start saying we can't make

fun of that, is that censorship?

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Is that thought police?

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You know?

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Like

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Dash: Well, and I thought about this

when Seinfeld kind of decided to tank

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his career That was, it was at least

10 years ago now, I think, where he

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said can't do comedy anymore yada yada

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This ain't, you know, like, um, you

have to be so politically correct these

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days, that's a stupid take because

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no one's asking You

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to be politically correct.

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They're asking you to

improve your craft the

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times, right?

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Like, you want to be let off the hook

for not getting any better at comedy.

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all of the jokes, like the

ones you think we should be

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making have been made already.

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every way that there is to mock a

trans person or a disabled person

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or a person of color has been

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done.

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So when somebody says like, okay, great.

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" Beck: Okay, great.

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Yeah."

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Dash: Another joke.

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Beck: is

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Dash: handle my edgy

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comedy.

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Beck: right.

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Dash: But what's being

said is like, you can joke

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about race.

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Plenty of people still do.

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but I need you to be

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good at it.

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I need it to be worth

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my time.

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I

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash: Just like if I'm

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Beck: Just

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Dash: cake, if it's not any

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good,

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I'm going to

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throw it away and get

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another

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thing to eat that I do enjoy

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because it's gotta be worth the

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calories.

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Beck: But on the other hand, there are

situations that no matter how bad the

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cake is, you would eat it, like in prison.

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So maybe there are situations

where no matter how bad the comedy

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Dash: that's gallow's humor,

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right?

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Like

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Beck: yeah.

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Dash: that's true.

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Context situation all that

is very relevant in comedy.

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash: you were saying that folks

were pointing out like a white

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person couldn't talk to Kevin

Hart the way Kat Williams did.

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Beck: Right

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Dash: Maybe even more than that, right?

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Like

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someone

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someone who didn't actually have beef with

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Kevin Hart couldn't talk to

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him that way.

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Kat Williams gets to talk to Kevin Hart

That way because he fucking earned it.

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over

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decades of a But back to your

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question of

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like, are there some things

that are absolutely sacrosanct?

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I'm not gonna

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I, I'm not gonna, say

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that nobody is allowed to try.

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Because first of all, I'm not

the one who gets to decide that

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I'm not the comedy police.

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I'm not the thought

police, but the stakes are

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so high that if you do try,

you better stick the landing.

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Like if you think you're that guy

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who has the funny thing to say about

George Floyd, okay, but like, ask yourself

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why taking that risk feels so important.

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Beck: Right.

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Dash: Is it

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because you believe that?

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something needs to be said

and you're the one to say it.

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Or are you trying to be

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a provocateur?

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are you trying to rage bait?

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' Because you

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can do that but you're not gonna

get flowers for it, because nobody's

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gonna find it funny and

that's gonna be your fault.

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I have heard some, miraculous...

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I've heard some comics pull off some

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incredible things with

taboo material, or what you

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would

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: of as taboo material

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: about the roast battle

between between the trans woman

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and the guy with cerebral palsy

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Beck: Like I was thinking, I heard,

rape jokes are not funny clearly.

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Right.

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But somebody made a joke about rape

jokes, and that was funny, right?

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So they found an angle to talk about

the violent thing, but in a way that

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was hands off kind of, 'cause they

didn't actually talk about rape,

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they talked about the rape jokes.

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Dash: Right.

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Yeah so the a topic itself

is, is not off the table

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ever because everyone should

have the right to try to say

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something interesting about it.

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And that's what comedy does.

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is It it says interesting things

about really tough topics, you

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say, make a

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Beck: If you say,

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Dash: joke, and it's stupid,"

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everyone's gonna call you racist

because it is racist to make

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a stupid George Floyd joke,

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Beck: Right.

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Dash: you know that's the cost

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of attempting, to box

above your weight class

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Beck: It reminds, me of the concept that

I teach in class called retro sexism.

480

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it, it's used a lot in

advertising where, like Carl's Jr.

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It's a big one.

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They have, like, girls playing the, the

do do do do do, do the 4th of July song

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over cheeseburgers and fireworks and

women in sca, scaly Clint, or, you know

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not a lot of clothes is what my brain is

trying to say in mixing up all the words.

485

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There you go.

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My brain could not make that come out.

487

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Dash: is

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Rough

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Beck: Or, like, there's a, there's In

the, in the video that I show them,

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there's a Twix commercial where the guy

and the girl are taking the baby and

491

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putting it in the car, and he turns around

and there's a couple of girls pillow

492

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fighting, and they're like, "For Twix,

when you need a minute," 'cause she's

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like, "Are you looking at those girls?"

494

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And he's like, "No, honey, I'm

looking at potential babysitters."

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You know?

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And so they're talking about the way

that we laugh at the wife because

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she's so stupid that she believes this.

498

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And the company can take that, and they

know that they're doing sexism, right?

499

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But because they're trying to

do it in a funny way, that they

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somehow remove themselves from

the, the concept of sexism, like

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a,

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a wink and a nod.

503

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You know what I'm doing, and you

know what, you know, we both know

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what's happening here, but it's

not really what's happening here.

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We're satire it.

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And that's not what's happening at all.

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They're actually doing the sexism,

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you

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know?

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in, in effort to circumvent that,

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they,

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they dive right into it.

513

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And you see that a lot in commercials.

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Dash: What'd you say you call it?

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Beck: Retro sexism?

516

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I got that from the, the feminist

foundation um, Anna Scar, scar,

517

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Is that how you say her name?

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Scar- Scar.

519

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She's the one that, the GamerGate,

I don't know how to pronounce it.

520

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Dash: I think it's Okay Fuck

521

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Beck: But there's a Mike's Hard

Lemonade commercial in it, and two

522

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guys are standing there and a little

Mike's Hard Lemonade cut out wooden

523

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booth, and they're like talking to

two girls, and they're like, "Would

524

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you like some Mike's Hard Lemonade?

525

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Can you believe there are some men that

won't drink this because women drink it?"

526

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And he- they were like,

"No, I can't believe that."

527

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And then it comes up, he's

528

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like, "Well, I could take you home."

529

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Right?

530

:

And they make a wink and a nod

531

:

in their effort to be nice guys.

532

:

They're actually trying

to hit on the women.

533

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Dash: Ian is her last name

534

:

Beck: There you go.

535

:

Dash: if

536

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you put us together,

would've, we kinda had it

537

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Uh, yeah advertising is You you will

find because it's job for the most part is

538

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to make the broadest appeal possible the

worst a society gets or a culture Worse

539

:

I can do better than that you can you can

see a society reflect its its ideals in

540

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advertising faster than in other media

541

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Beck: Right.

542

:

I always, I always show things like

Saturday Night Live and satire because

543

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if you can understand what makes

somebody laugh or a group of people

544

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laugh, you know something about them,

545

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if you have people that are laughing

at racist jokes and George Floyd

546

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jokes, you know something about them,

547

:

that's why I show, like, when I do the

Anita Hill Clarence Thomas, I show the

548

:

Saturday Night Live cold open where

they did that, and then I show the

549

:

Brent Brett Kavanaugh one, where they

also did the, the hearing of that.

550

:

And then I showed them the actual videos

that they're lampooning, and that's a

551

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very interesting class where we talk

about what's funny and who's allowed to,

552

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to make fun of things and all of that.

553

:

That's, that's one of my

favorite classes of the semester.

554

:

Dash: Gen Z has well this isn't just Gen

ZI think also younger millennials had

555

:

this conversation about the role humor

can play in normalizing certain things

556

:

Beck: Mm-hmm.

557

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Dash: is valid for sure because the

the thing that makes advertising

558

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the fastest place to spot changes

in a culture is because its

559

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goal is to rush to the broadest

appeal, Whereas other forms of art

560

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can be rewarded by resisting, norma

561

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normative

562

:

forces or normalizing forces.

563

:

but eventually something like

564

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SNL is going to settle

into that broad appeal.

565

:

going back to

566

:

nine 11

567

:

is a really good example.

568

:

The episode they aired that happened.

569

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So

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the Saturday following nine

11, New York, especially like

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downtown New

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York City,

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is

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very,

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constructive of

576

:

Saturday Night Live.

577

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very much a part

578

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of, of that thing.

579

:

so after that

580

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happened,

581

:

It's kind of a shame

582

:

like go back and watch that

583

:

Beck: Back that episode.

584

:

Dash: are moments in it that are

regular SNL, but there's also

585

:

like you can feel a bit, a little

586

:

bit of difference because I-- in my mind,

587

:

I I, at like when I was watching it,

and I think maybe the audience their

588

:

live audience was thinking this, like,

which way are they gonna take this?

589

:

they wound up pandering, they

had Rudy Giuliani on and like

590

:

tearfully thanked him for being a good

leader during a hard time and stuff.

591

:

There's a way to

592

:

gesture to that.

593

:

There's a way to, to, include a

tragedy like that that doesn't

594

:

bite so deeply

595

:

into

596

:

ballooning

597

:

performative, patriotic,

xenophobic zeitgeist.

598

:

What the hell day was

599

:

nine 11.

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Beck: A Tuesday.

601

:

Sure.

602

:

Dash: by that Saturday,

603

:

it was off the rails

604

:

It was terrorism this, the war on terror.

605

:

It was, it was really only days

606

:

later.

607

:

So I understand how it was

tough for them and I I can't

608

:

imagine making that

609

:

call in the moment if I'm Lorne Michaels.

610

:

and they like out at the

end with some sort of like

611

:

Yeah so we we did our part We

612

:

talked about it Can we be funny

now Can we go back to being funny

613

:

Like, Lorne Michaels turns to Rudy

Giuliani and asks that question

614

:

Beck: I think I've seen that clip

615

:

Dash: are we still allowed

616

:

Beck: Are

617

:

Dash: in this, in in

this post nine 11 world?

618

:

It is a very important moment

619

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in.

620

:

contemporary American

621

:

history, in public media.

622

:

And, and they, they make a joke.

623

:

but,

624

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like after all of

625

:

that,

626

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Beck: all that

627

:

Dash: hours, right?

628

:

It's like two hours long and all the

629

:

the crying and the sentimentality

630

:

and the American fla of it.

631

:

and then to literally

632

:

have Rudy Giuliani there

633

:

on Weekend update.

634

:

Weekend update,

635

:

Just watch that.

636

:

segment of

637

:

that.

638

:

episode.

639

:

Beck: Yeah.

640

:

I will.

641

:

I'm gonna go back and watch that.

642

:

I wonder where they're...

643

:

it's probably on YouTube if anything else.

644

:

You can find a lot of the

old episodes on there.

645

:

Dash: it's, isn't that

646

:

Beck: Isn, that n Yeah, NBC.

647

:

Dash: So I don't know

648

:

what their streaming app is called Is it

649

:

Beck: Peacock,

650

:

Yeah.

651

:

Dash: Well, I'm sure yeah

I'm sure it's on there then

652

:

Beck: That's one of the apps I pay for

'cause of mostly because SVU is on there.

653

:

I can't leave Olivia Benson hanging.

654

:

Dash: do you ever watch

655

:

Criminal Minds?

656

:

Beck: Oh, yeah.

657

:

The, the new season starts

May 28th or something.

658

:

They're gonna start dropping episodes.

659

:

Did you see they started SNL UK?

660

:

Dash: No

661

:

Beck: Yeah, London.

662

:

there's a couple of

episodes that have been out.

663

:

I watched the first episode

that Tina Faye hosted.

664

:

Dash: Oh

665

:

Beck: I haven't watched

anymore since then, but yeah.

666

:

Dash: Okay

667

:

Beck: It'll be interesting

to see if it takes root.

668

:

Dash: Yeah

669

:

Beck: Because that's what a show

like that has to do, you know?

670

:

A show like that has to take root.

671

:

Like, people have to buy into it.

672

:

People have to take care in it.

673

:

They have to care what that,

that group of people have to say,

674

:

or otherwise it doesn't work.

675

:

Dash: And als also adaptation

across contexts like

676

:

Beck: Right

677

:

Dash: this

678

:

version of it where

679

:

something is exported from the US to a

u to the UK or, or somewhere in Europe.

680

:

It's not,

681

:

it doesn't happen

682

:

that often and It's not very successful.

683

:

Normally We take a lot

of their stuff have,

684

:

right?

685

:

Like, and a lot of our biggest

hits have, have been exports,

686

:

Um, like

687

:

the Office.

688

:

A lot of our reality shows

689

:

are

690

:

just theirs, right

691

:

Um, starting with American

Idol that's an export.

692

:

Dancing

693

:

With the Stars is an export

694

:

Beck: X Factor.

695

:

Dash: yeah, X Factor

696

:

Um, there's a there's a baking show

now But there have been instances

697

:

of of us trying to take things over

there and it doesn't work really

698

:

Beck: Yeah.

699

:

Speaking of baking shows, have you

ever seen the pottery competition show?

700

:

Dash: The Great Pottery Throw Down

701

:

Beck: Yes.

702

:

Dash: seen

703

:

every single

704

:

Beck: It is fantastic.

705

:

Yeah, we've watched a lot of it, but

then Shannon got sad because that's

706

:

what her degree is in, in ceramics.

707

:

She has a, a Bachelor's of Art.

708

:

And then she got too sad to watch

it 'cause she wanted to go do it.

709

:

Dash: I really think I'm the

one that told you to watch it

710

:

Beck: Are you?

711

:

Dash: I think If you watched it recently,

cause I remembering this and this was

712

:

like a year ago now I think it was

because we're talking about Shanna.

713

:

but because that's too weird of a

coincidence that we would've both seen

714

:

the least viewed of the Great British

but I don't know but yeah I love it

715

:

and the Keith the the the little judge

the way he cries every time he sees

716

:

something beautiful it's just so lovely

717

:

Beck: Yeah.

718

:

Dash: And

719

:

then, because he's like this just big big

hearted softy about he just clearly loves

720

:

art He loves design He loves execution

and creation and stuff and then when he

721

:

does his little demonstrations and he

pulls off his button up shirt and he's

722

:

just wearing the the tank top and he's

got his guns out and you're like Oh a

723

:

there's a a leather daddy under there

724

:

for,

725

:

Beck: Have you ever thrown before?

726

:

Dash: No I have not and

727

:

Beck: Me neither.

728

:

Dash: to

729

:

Beck: Me too.

730

:

Shanna would come home covered in

clay and slip and, you know, paint

731

:

and all kinds of stuff, and she

got to learn how to use power tools

732

:

and it just looks like so much fun.

733

:

She had a blast doing it.

734

:

Dash: Well I I did some sculpting and

like ceramics it, but we didn't we

735

:

didn't- Use like we just poured into

molds and then sculpted and stuff

736

:

and fired it like glazed it and fired

it and only in high school yeah,

737

:

just, this is not one of the um...

738

:

took a lot of art for my electives

in college but you had to buy

739

:

your own materials and so I

couldn't really afford much

740

:

Beck: Yeah.

741

:

Well, with tuition came,

742

:

um, unlimited clay and things like that.

743

:

That was one thing that

you didn't have to do.

744

:

You got to use the departments at Miami.

745

:

I,

746

:

Dash: That's one of them nice schools

747

:

Beck: Yeah.

748

:

Miami is one of the best

schools in the Midwest.

749

:

Dash: Yeah There's another of those

shows called The Great British Jewelry

750

:

Making Show Let me see what it's

751

:

called.

752

:

Beck: sounds fun.

753

:

Dash: Oh, it's excellent as well All

let's see You're likely Here's the AI

754

:

overview You're likely referring to the

hit television reality competition All

755

:

That Glitters Britain's Next Jewelry Star

It doesn't quite roll off the tongue Known

756

:

colloquially as the jewelry equivalent

to Bake Off But you know talking about

757

:

like how they like they do a lot of things

better than we do in terms of especially

758

:

reality competition is they all have hosts

that they call presenters and most of them

759

:

are comedians like the host of Pottery

Throwdown for the first not for the first

760

:

few seasons eventually becomes Shavon,

um, like Irish lesbian comedian McSweeney

761

:

Siobhan McSweeney she's a stand-up and

she's hilarious Katherine Ryan is the

762

:

presenter for the jewelry show She's a

Canadian, British comedian And I still

763

:

think about some of the things that she

said to Me and Claire were watching the

764

:

the jewelry one and there was this there

was this dude on there and he was so

765

:

sweet and earnest and just dumb as a box

of rocks And he would consistently say

766

:

things and I was like What This is giving

me the weirdest sensation of what he just

767

:

said And Claire's like, It's like being

in a Christopher Guest movie watching

768

:

this man It was like watching bested

Show and it that's so accurate I Wonder

769

:

what else ones there are What are all the

British what do we call those Competition

770

:

Beck: shows?

771

:

Dash: reality shows Google's like, I got

you Category British reality televisions

772

:

series Oh good Lord Nevermind brisket.

773

:

God dammit.

774

:

I know it's the only window open in

the house so I know why you wanna

775

:

get in it but it's als I'm using it

776

:

I had a job interview on Tuesday

777

:

Beck: How did that go?

778

:

Dash: It was fine It was it was

fun They were nice I, I've never

779

:

interviewed for a faculty gig before

and so you know the presentation

780

:

portion where they give you a prompt

781

:

Beck: I've never been through it

either, so no, I didn't know that.

782

:

Dash: See if you can serve on a

committee on a search committee

783

:

Beck: I did for the director,

but that was totally different.

784

:

Dash: They didn't do a

presentation for that

785

:

Beck: Not that I remember.

786

:

She was the only person

that applied for it.

787

:

Dash: Oh damn that is

scandalous so yeah it's

788

:

Beck: so yeah.

789

:

Dash: ed for faculty

790

:

or, uh, staff position

791

:

It, maybe It's

792

:

becoming less customary

now, used to the first time

793

:

I was

794

:

on the

795

:

Beck: the first time I was on

796

:

Dash: uh, interviews were multiple days.

797

:

You get, you fly in the

798

:

night before, and you have

799

:

dinner with a certain group of

interested parties, you know, maybe.

800

:

Some people who would be colleagues,

801

:

um, you

802

:

know, folks not

803

:

it's not super serious,

but you're definitely on."

804

:

And then the next

805

:

Beck: And the next day,

806

:

you

807

:

Dash: the hotel and

around like, anytime from

808

:

7

809

:

Beck: from 7 eight

810

:

Dash: ish,

811

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Beck: 30 ish and you'll have breakfast

812

:

Dash: another

813

:

Beck: another

814

:

Dash: of, interested

folks on campus or maybe

815

:

maybe some of the

816

:

same, maybe, some students

817

:

then you'll

818

:

Beck: and you'll

819

:

Dash: and start a full day of

820

:

half hour to

821

:

Beck: half hour

822

:

Dash: slash interviews with

823

:

various people.

824

:

You'll meet with maybe the

825

:

VP of whatever division

826

:

the chair of whatever

department, the search committee

827

:

And

828

:

They'll ask you those like

round robin questions.

829

:

And then there'll be a

point where you'll give a

830

:

presentation of some sort and they'll give

you a prompt to create the presentation

831

:

based on So for all the, a lot of the

staff positions I have interviewed for,

832

:

be like,

833

:

do a presentation

834

:

Beck: presentation,

835

:

Dash: first year goals

836

:

and how you'll, accomplish

837

:

Beck: accomplishing

838

:

Dash: they'll give you a case scenario

839

:

like a

840

:

Beck: scenario

841

:

Dash: study

842

:

Beck: case study,

843

:

Dash: say the steps you

would do to respond to

844

:

it.

845

:

For faculty, it's either a

teaching demonstration or

846

:

a demonstration of your

research depending on where

847

:

you're interviewing.

848

:

So I've never done that

849

:

one before.

850

:

It's

851

:

always

852

:

it's always been for me, like,

what happens if there's a

853

:

crisis You know, and how do you

854

:

handle this crisis?

855

:

or

856

:

how

857

:

do you respond to this And so this was

very much like, I could just explain

858

:

this to you because it was just sim- it

859

:

just felt like a really

860

:

simple,

861

:

presentation compared

to the ones I've done.

862

:

they were like, how would you

863

:

Do a demonstration of walking students

864

:

through editing a a

thesis statement from this

865

:

kind of paper into

866

:

a thesis statement for

867

:

another kind of paper so as I was doing

it, I felt really self-conscious because I

868

:

was describing something extremely simple

a group of people who knew how to do it.

869

:

And maybe that's what it's

870

:

Beck: Maybe that's what it's

871

:

Dash: gigs Um, if anybody out

there listening has ever done,

872

:

a, has done faculty interviews.

873

:

let let us know if

874

:

that's normal, but

875

:

I just, I was sweating

876

:

so

877

:

Beck: sweating.

878

:

Dash: I just felt really self-conscious

describing something obvious

879

:

because it's not my usual experience.

880

:

My usual experience, like the

881

:

past 15 years has been, I'm the

only person in the room that knows

882

:

the thing, and If I don't know it,

883

:

then the problem doesn't get solved.

884

:

And it's, so, it was

885

:

really difficult to go from that gear

886

:

to, um Well here's a

887

:

here's something you could Google.

888

:

Beck: Right.

889

:

Dash: But

890

:

You know, teaching isn't about that.

891

:

Like,

892

:

Beck: like the

893

:

Dash: not it's,

894

:

well, maybe It's a different kind of

895

:

problem solving.

896

:

Right.

897

:

Praxis.

898

:

'cause one of the things they

asked me was like, the difference

899

:

between process and product.

900

:

and I was like, wow, you

guys are talking to people

901

:

that don't know that.

902

:

Huh.

903

:

Okay.

904

:

So it was, like, validating and stressful

905

:

at the same time

906

:

And then also, like, you mean

907

:

to tell me jobs like,

908

:

this have

909

:

been out here all along,

910

:

and I have been dying over

911

:

crises for 15 years

912

:

for less money.

913

:

They seemed like a cool bunch

914

:

and I liked that it was a community

915

:

college.

916

:

'cause uh, there's a job the, the same job

as posted at the university that just me.

917

:

I shall not be applying for it

918

:

Beck: Yeah.

919

:

Dash: Their culture is

920

:

just awful.

921

:

Beck: Why would you go back into the fire?

922

:

Dash: Not only that, but they

call themselves, hang on.

923

:

It was

924

:

Ivy of the Prairie

925

:

Yeah.

926

:

Beck: Well, that's-

927

:

Dash: Listeners you

928

:

can

929

:

imagine the faces we just made

930

:

Maybe

931

:

you heard the

932

:

faces we just made

933

:

Beck: Of all the things you've told

me about that particular school, that

934

:

its Ivy League caliber was not one

of the reactions that I have had.

935

:

Dash: They have, they've not

updated their impression of

936

:

themselves since the nineties, which

937

:

Beck: Do they mean like poison ivy?

938

:

Dash: M lock.

939

:

And like.

940

:

dream big, you know, um, dress

for the job that you want.

941

:

I can't, from everything I can

tell it was a big deal back in the

942

:

day, you know, for for some very

specific reasons that there was a

943

:

couple of really influential people

on campus that made It their whole

944

:

personality their whole identity

945

:

impact the school in certain ways And

those people have gone and it's just

946

:

slowly deflated like, a weird balloon.

947

:

so, because when I came here and they

told me that and I was like, really?

948

:

And yet they posted this job that his PhD

required with a starting salary of $52,000

949

:

You want somebody with a PhD in philosophy

to move to the surface of the moon

950

:

for $52,000?

951

:

Why would they do

952

:

that?

953

:

Beck: Right, because they're

desperate, and that's, that

954

:

you can sort of live on that.

955

:

Dash: Yeah and so like what kind of

cognitive dissonance- Is that, it, have

956

:

they finally realized, okay, maybe we're

not all that because nobody's applying

957

:

to our jobs, do they still think that

958

:

people would come to work

959

:

here for

960

:

that amount of money because they're

just, lucky to be here feel lucky

961

:

to be here That's how they see the

students as well don't know This

962

:

has become a higher ed podcast

963

:

Beck: Poop.

964

:

There, I just brought it back down.

965

:

Dash: Have you been writing

966

:

Beck: I have.

967

:

I've been, ... Not yesterday,

'cause I took the day off.

968

:

But the day before that and the

day before that, I added pages.

969

:

So,

970

:

Dash: that's the way it

971

:

gets done.

972

:

Beck: I- that's the only thing I- was,

I'm teaching a class online right now.

973

:

But I got everything done for

that class by Tuesday morning,

974

:

and I haven't touched it since.

975

:

Basically they have some assignments

due and then a discussion board,

976

:

and I have to respond to so many

of the discussion board posts.

977

:

So I just went in and did all

of those at once, and then made

978

:

sure everything was graded.

979

:

And I don't have to touch

it again until Monday, so.

980

:

Dash: For the the other university

981

:

Beck: Yeah.

982

:

It's pretty cut and dry,

983

:

Dash: Yeah.

984

:

Beck: And I only put maybe

10, 12 hours a week into it.

985

:

And the extra income is very helpful, so.

986

:

And it forces me to get online and be

focused and, and that kind of thing.

987

:

Dash: if I wind up working

for these folks and it

988

:

that's of...

989

:

It's not a huge if.

990

:

They already called and asked for my

references, so they're gonna offer.

991

:

they'll need to agree to some things

for it to be physically possible

992

:

for me because it's a 90 minute

drive and they may not be able to

993

:

having summers off I don't

know what that's gonna be

994

:

like what is that life like

995

:

Beck: I enjoy it thoroughly

996

:

Dash: right

997

:

Beck: Five stars.

998

:

Highly recommend it.

999

:

Dash: Crazy

:

00:35:06,755 --> 00:35:06,995

Beck: Great.

:

00:35:07,242 --> 00:35:08,262

Dash: Well, maybe it's

:

00:35:08,525 --> 00:35:08,915

Beck: maybe it's

:

00:35:09,042 --> 00:35:09,222

Dash: this

:

00:35:09,425 --> 00:35:09,555

Beck: to hear

:

00:35:10,482 --> 00:35:11,952

Dash: who I have forgotten.

:

00:35:12,162 --> 00:35:13,272

Oh, lemme put my glasses on.

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00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:17,040

This week's episode of Queer

Next is brought to you by the

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00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,140

Buy here, pay here car lot.

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00:35:19,799 --> 00:35:20,729

Or the buy here, pay

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00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:22,699

Used car lot, I

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00:35:22,699 --> 00:35:23,179

should say.

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00:35:23,179 --> 00:35:25,703

There are no new ones that be graveled,

:

00:35:25,703 --> 00:35:26,303

stretch of

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00:35:26,303 --> 00:35:30,443

asphalt on the edge of town where the

American dream goes to get its catalytic

:

00:35:30,443 --> 00:35:35,283

converter stolen with felonious interest

rates and on-call knee breakers to

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00:35:35,283 --> 00:35:35,943

enforce them.

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00:35:35,943 --> 00:35:37,803

You'll take what you

can get and be grateful.

:

00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:42,093

Or else If the check engine light ain't

on, it's because the dash is broken too.

:

00:35:42,453 --> 00:35:46,503

If you're tired of trudging 10 miles

to work and having pocket money, go on

:

00:35:46,503 --> 00:35:51,043

down to honest ads and get stole from

Bask in the smell of stale Winston

:

00:35:51,043 --> 00:35:52,783

Reds and desperation while you

:

00:35:52,783 --> 00:35:56,833

hand over a stack of crumpled twenties

to a man named Rick wearing a ring

:

00:35:56,833 --> 00:36:00,839

large enough to double as a blunt force

weapon because it does, You aren't there

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00:36:00,839 --> 00:36:02,729

because your lifelong ambition is to own

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00:36:02,729 --> 00:36:03,899

a:

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00:36:03,899 --> 00:36:05,909

with a mismatched bumper

and a permanent scent of

:

00:36:05,909 --> 00:36:06,569

wet dog.

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00:36:06,969 --> 00:36:10,359

there because credit scores are for

people who've never had the thought.

:

00:36:10,359 --> 00:36:12,879

If I stopped eating I wouldn't

need to go to the dentist anymore.

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00:36:14,661 --> 00:36:19,611

The buy here pay here lot is a special

kind of rural purgatory It's built on the

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00:36:19,611 --> 00:36:23,211

absolute necessity of having wheels

in a place where the nearest grocery

:

00:36:23,211 --> 00:36:26,841

store is three town over and the public

transit is just a guy named Darryl With

:

00:36:26,841 --> 00:36:30,431

the flatbed, You know you need that

car to get to the shift that pays for

:

00:36:30,431 --> 00:36:32,501

the car creating a circle as vicious as

:

00:36:32,501 --> 00:36:35,081

the one where a living

organism gets killed in ate.

:

00:36:35,501 --> 00:36:36,071

It's a place

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00:36:36,071 --> 00:36:40,301

where no credit no problem, actually means

your problems are actually much larger

:

00:36:40,301 --> 00:36:42,041

than yet and just getting warmed up.

:

00:36:42,421 --> 00:36:45,361

It's a demonic confluence of

hope and low grade anxiety.

:

00:36:45,481 --> 00:36:48,421

You spend every Friday afternoon

driving to that gravel lot to hand

:

00:36:48,421 --> 00:36:51,781

over half your paycheck in cash,

praying the transmission holds together

:

00:36:51,961 --> 00:36:53,341

until your second job pays out.

:

00:36:54,211 --> 00:36:57,931

all this despite knowing that the GPS

tracker hidden under the dashboard is

:

00:36:57,931 --> 00:36:59,581

worth more than the actual engine

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00:37:00,086 --> 00:37:01,106

For a lot of us,

:

00:37:01,196 --> 00:37:02,066

these lots were

:

00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:03,446

our first taste of adulting.

:

00:37:03,686 --> 00:37:04,286

We learned.

:

00:37:04,286 --> 00:37:08,387

one of the limitations of our lot in life

is you hardly ever get to own anything.

:

00:37:08,477 --> 00:37:10,187

and if you do, it's utter trash.

:

00:37:10,907 --> 00:37:11,867

learned to sacrifice

:

00:37:11,867 --> 00:37:15,077

our automotive dignity to the raw

mechanical reality of getting from

:

00:37:15,077 --> 00:37:18,377

point A to point B without the

floorboards rusting out from under

:

00:37:18,377 --> 00:37:20,337

your boots the buy here pay here lot.

:

00:37:20,367 --> 00:37:21,327

Providing the fine

:

00:37:21,327 --> 00:37:22,347

people of the holler

:

00:37:22,497 --> 00:37:25,137

with the right to pay four times the

blue book value for a vehicle that's

:

00:37:25,137 --> 00:37:26,937

held together by Bondo and prayer.

:

00:37:27,357 --> 00:37:30,837

And now back to queer Next, where our

internals are also making a sound.

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00:37:30,837 --> 00:37:33,177

We've decided just to ignore

until something falls off.

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00:37:35,126 --> 00:37:35,846

Beck: Have you ever bought a

:

00:37:38,796 --> 00:37:42,066

Dash: This delay has got us

like having twinning moments.

:

00:37:42,711 --> 00:37:46,251

I have never, because that's

one thing there, there are

:

00:37:46,251 --> 00:37:48,291

certain like fiscal things that

:

00:37:48,291 --> 00:37:50,541

my parents were absolutely

:

00:37:50,541 --> 00:37:51,111

dead set

:

00:37:51,111 --> 00:37:51,951

on me knowing.

:

00:37:51,981 --> 00:37:52,551

and

:

00:37:52,551 --> 00:37:54,171

so avoiding the buy here, pay

:

00:37:54,171 --> 00:37:55,191

here lot was one of them.

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00:37:55,681 --> 00:37:55,831

if

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00:37:55,944 --> 00:37:56,334

Beck: Yeah.

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00:37:56,371 --> 00:37:58,051

Dash: to be true it is

:

00:37:58,611 --> 00:38:01,841

Beck: So I've only ever bought

two cars off of a lot both used.

:

00:38:02,211 --> 00:38:05,411

Every other car that I've had

has come from a impo, not an

:

00:38:05,411 --> 00:38:07,259

impound yard, a uh, junkyard.

:

00:38:07,689 --> 00:38:11,409

Because my dad would rebuild

my car's, uh- Salvage.

:

00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:16,659

My first car was a, my Geo Metro, and

it, my, we went out driving, and we went,

:

00:38:16,659 --> 00:38:17,919

and my dad was like, "Pick one out."

:

00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:19,869

And I picked out a

Mustang, and he said no.

:

00:38:20,019 --> 00:38:23,004

so then I picked out the Geo Metro, and

he is like, "Okay, that's more our speed."

:

00:38:23,344 --> 00:38:26,044

And then I drove that until I got

my Hyundai Accent, which was a

:

00:38:26,044 --> 00:38:29,224

graduation present, which came in

on a flatbed, crashed the front.

:

00:38:29,689 --> 00:38:32,444

And then I had the car that I

bought, my other Hyundai Accent

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00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:34,604

that I bought off of a used car lot.

:

00:38:35,054 --> 00:38:38,804

But I paid like $12,000 for that, so

I had a whole car loan and all that.

:

00:38:39,204 --> 00:38:42,564

And then after that one ran out,

I had the car that my dad gave me,

:

00:38:42,564 --> 00:38:46,464

the Malibu, and I drove that thing

for 200,000 miles for like 12 years.

:

00:38:46,904 --> 00:38:49,604

And then I've got the, the

Equinox that I'm driving now

:

00:38:49,604 --> 00:38:51,554

that I bought, I paid cash for.

:

00:38:51,979 --> 00:38:57,853

Dash: My first vehicle was given to me It

was the the Metro dad had bought it off

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00:38:57,853 --> 00:39:02,872

of a a local car lot, uh, down in my, I

think, I don't know if it was Williamsburg

:

00:39:02,872 --> 00:39:08,102

or Corbin somewhere around in that area

for $1,900 and he drove it until it had

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00:39:08,102 --> 00:39:10,509

300 something thousand miles on it it

:

00:39:10,509 --> 00:39:12,499

was falling apart in such specific

:

00:39:12,499 --> 00:39:13,099

ways.

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00:39:13,355 --> 00:39:14,315

And so he gave it to

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00:39:14,315 --> 00:39:18,005

me fully thinking that it would

last, you know, especially with

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00:39:18,005 --> 00:39:18,970

the new driver, that

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00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:19,290

it was,

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00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:20,375

that it was was gonna

:

00:39:20,375 --> 00:39:21,395

last maybe

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00:39:21,485 --> 00:39:22,415

six months to a year

:

00:39:22,887 --> 00:39:23,847

and so I drove it for

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00:39:23,847 --> 00:39:24,597

years.

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00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:25,339

It eventually

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00:39:25,339 --> 00:39:26,059

healed itself.

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00:39:26,059 --> 00:39:28,868

I think I told the story it had an oil

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00:39:28,928 --> 00:39:29,856

leak, it would,

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00:39:30,036 --> 00:39:30,186

the

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00:39:30,329 --> 00:39:30,814

Beck: And it would

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00:39:31,056 --> 00:39:34,027

Dash: l leak onto the flywheel,

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00:39:34,246 --> 00:39:34,726

Beck: flywheel,

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00:39:34,777 --> 00:39:35,377

Dash: which was

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00:39:35,616 --> 00:39:37,446

Beck: which is the clutch

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00:39:37,597 --> 00:39:38,227

Dash: basically for the

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00:39:38,227 --> 00:39:38,977

transmission.

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00:39:40,077 --> 00:39:40,917

you know when you switch

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00:39:40,917 --> 00:39:41,247

into a

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00:39:41,247 --> 00:39:41,907

gear, it's

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00:39:42,146 --> 00:39:42,266

Beck: a

:

00:39:42,417 --> 00:39:43,587

Dash: the teeth grab, and then it

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00:39:43,647 --> 00:39:45,147

takes off, and the oil was

:

00:39:45,147 --> 00:39:46,407

leaking onto that flywheel which

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00:39:46,466 --> 00:39:47,666

Beck: flywheel, also happens.

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00:39:47,951 --> 00:39:49,631

Dash: from the last clutch put on it.

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00:39:49,645 --> 00:39:51,181

the guy, who replaced it was somebody

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00:39:51,391 --> 00:39:52,231

Angelico holler.

:

00:39:52,501 --> 00:39:55,561

he didn't rotate the flywheel and so

it was only touching on a certain.

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00:39:56,047 --> 00:39:57,317

like this, And

:

00:39:57,317 --> 00:39:59,627

then it was leaking oil onto that spot.

:

00:39:59,687 --> 00:40:00,467

And So

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00:40:00,497 --> 00:40:03,017

if I gave it too much gas

:

00:40:03,077 --> 00:40:05,351

in second or third gear, it would

:

00:40:05,351 --> 00:40:07,271

just fly outta gear And so I'd be on the

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00:40:07,595 --> 00:40:08,285

Beck: Oh, wow.

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00:40:08,501 --> 00:40:09,911

Dash: Yeah Well, It eventually

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00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,750

Beck: Eventually

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00:40:11,081 --> 00:40:11,291

Dash: and I

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Beck: that,

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00:40:11,951 --> 00:40:12,581

Dash: going on?"

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00:40:12,581 --> 00:40:13,121

And So

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00:40:13,151 --> 00:40:14,921

Dad opened it up and looked

at it and he was like,

:

00:40:14,921 --> 00:40:16,811

well, the oil

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00:40:16,811 --> 00:40:18,131

leak has gMed

:

00:40:18,131 --> 00:40:22,091

itself shut it congealed

on the seal," And because

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00:40:22,091 --> 00:40:23,921

I change the oil.

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00:40:25,181 --> 00:40:25,541

so

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00:40:25,541 --> 00:40:26,951

he changed the oil and He was like, "I

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00:40:27,671 --> 00:40:28,661

I mean, I'll just leave it.

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00:40:28,661 --> 00:40:29,771

We'll see if it stays that way."

:

00:40:29,771 --> 00:40:31,781

it never did leak oil again, and the

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00:40:31,925 --> 00:40:32,405

Beck: Wow.

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00:40:32,621 --> 00:40:33,401

Dash: warped to the

:

00:40:33,401 --> 00:40:34,121

old flywheel,

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00:40:36,446 --> 00:40:40,466

Beck: That's one thing I'm meticulous

about is oil changes and tire rotations.

:

00:40:40,791 --> 00:40:41,536

I get those done.

:

00:40:41,536 --> 00:40:43,906

I don't get the tire rotations

done as often as I should,

:

00:40:43,906 --> 00:40:45,616

but I still maintain them.

:

00:40:46,021 --> 00:40:49,328

but oil changes I do by

the car recommendation, not

:

00:40:49,328 --> 00:40:50,468

by the oil change place.

:

00:40:50,468 --> 00:40:52,239

I do it when it's down to like, 20%.

:

00:40:52,509 --> 00:40:54,609

Because if they want you in

there every 3,000 miles, I'd

:

00:40:54,609 --> 00:40:55,599

be getting one every month.

:

00:40:55,742 --> 00:40:56,532

Dash: Nobody

:

00:40:56,589 --> 00:40:58,359

Beck: know, I put a

lot of miles on my car.

:

00:40:58,785 --> 00:41:04,005

Dash: who drives a regular contemporary

vehicle needs a:

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00:41:04,005 --> 00:41:06,547

change because, there's two reasons

:

00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:09,937

One most oil is synthetic, but even

if you don't do like the premium

:

00:41:09,937 --> 00:41:16,299

synthetic oil change, number is based on

before blocks were titanium, the, they

:

00:41:16,299 --> 00:41:18,489

used to be made out of all kinds of,

:

00:41:18,609 --> 00:41:21,459

you know, uh, steel or CHRO

:

00:41:21,549 --> 00:41:24,759

or something like that And so they

would shave off as the pistons

:

00:41:24,759 --> 00:41:26,739

fired in, in the, the cylinders.

:

00:41:26,829 --> 00:41:28,059

It would shave off tiny bits.

:

00:41:28,059 --> 00:41:29,859

And that's what would, go the oil up like

:

00:41:29,859 --> 00:41:30,129

that.

:

00:41:30,129 --> 00:41:31,629

Well, they're titanium now.

:

00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:32,739

they don't do that.

:

00:41:33,653 --> 00:41:34,668

depending on the

:

00:41:34,777 --> 00:41:35,867

Beck: depending on the vehicle

:

00:41:36,228 --> 00:41:40,368

Dash: and whatnot I mean you could

go 10,000 miles between oil changes.

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00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:41,177

Beck: Yeah.

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00:41:41,574 --> 00:41:42,384

Dash: I, I mean, I'm not

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00:41:42,384 --> 00:41:43,194

recommending that.

:

00:41:43,194 --> 00:41:45,354

I I stick to, you know.

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00:41:45,772 --> 00:41:46,312

Five to

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00:41:46,312 --> 00:41:47,482

6,000 mile.

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00:41:48,016 --> 00:41:48,526

Beck: me too.

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00:41:48,961 --> 00:41:49,771

Dash: I don't know I gotta

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00:41:49,899 --> 00:41:50,019

Beck: I

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00:41:50,251 --> 00:41:52,591

Dash: the new truck and see, even know.

:

00:41:52,591 --> 00:41:52,711

what

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00:41:52,711 --> 00:41:53,461

kind of oil it takes.

:

00:41:53,461 --> 00:41:53,941

I have done

:

00:41:53,971 --> 00:41:56,131

hardly any digging into it Honestly.

:

00:41:56,311 --> 00:42:00,141

I was, yesterday I was coming back from

Alexandria and I hit a bunch of, there's,

:

00:42:00,141 --> 00:42:03,681

I was doing a bunch Of like, resurfacing

on the roads now that winter's over.

:

00:42:03,937 --> 00:42:09,997

so I wound up on a gravel back road

between some corn, between some fields

:

00:42:10,087 --> 00:42:13,207

and there's all these ... it's All

the roads are on grids here, But a

:

00:42:13,375 --> 00:42:13,665

Beck: yeah,

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00:42:13,717 --> 00:42:14,077

Dash: just,

:

00:42:14,197 --> 00:42:15,397

muddy gravel things.

:

00:42:15,397 --> 00:42:15,667

And so I

:

00:42:15,667 --> 00:42:17,857

started playing around with the

four wheel drive, which was fun.

:

00:42:18,181 --> 00:42:19,441

Beck: My car has all wheel drive.

:

00:42:24,789 --> 00:42:26,439

Dash: I actually had two metros.

:

00:42:26,742 --> 00:42:27,582

Um, but the

:

00:42:27,582 --> 00:42:30,702

second one was after

Geo had been bought by

:

00:42:30,702 --> 00:42:32,592

Chevy, so it was a Chevy.

:

00:42:32,652 --> 00:42:33,282

Metro.

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00:42:33,833 --> 00:42:34,703

Well, I don't know

:

00:42:34,703 --> 00:42:34,733

I

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00:42:34,733 --> 00:42:35,213

don't remember if they were

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00:42:35,216 --> 00:42:35,616

Beck: I dunno,

:

00:42:36,383 --> 00:42:37,823

Dash: but same car.

:

00:42:38,063 --> 00:42:38,513

Beck: right?

:

00:42:38,993 --> 00:42:42,163

Dash: and my dad Also same thing

my dad gave it to me after he

:

00:42:42,163 --> 00:42:46,294

had put hundreds of thousands of

miles on It was also a four speed.

:

00:42:46,604 --> 00:42:47,044

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:42:47,384 --> 00:42:50,564

I also drove my dad's car for a

little while, the Jeep that he had

:

00:42:50,564 --> 00:42:54,134

until it got destroyed, and I also

drove a car that my cousin gave

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00:42:54,134 --> 00:42:55,784

me, when my Jeep got destroyed.

:

00:42:56,104 --> 00:42:58,454

That all happened when I

was down in Lucasville,

:

00:42:58,565 --> 00:42:59,435

Dash: What kind of Jeep did you

:

00:42:59,435 --> 00:42:59,825

have?

:

00:43:00,274 --> 00:43:00,784

Beck: a Liberty?

:

00:43:01,264 --> 00:43:02,434

No, a Compass.

:

00:43:02,554 --> 00:43:03,664

A Jump a Compass

:

00:43:03,810 --> 00:43:04,060

Dash: okay.

:

00:43:04,369 --> 00:43:11,269

I had a Patriot which is just a a

Dodge Charger in Jeep's clothing

:

00:43:11,673 --> 00:43:14,913

Beck: There are so many Jeeps here

because there's a Jeep factory.

:

00:43:15,448 --> 00:43:18,983

we were taught, we were- yesterday

we went to Five Guys, and we were

:

00:43:19,043 --> 00:43:21,773

waiting to pull out of traffic, and

Shannon was like, "Jeep, Jeep, Jeep,

:

00:43:21,773 --> 00:43:24,293

Jeep, Jeep, Jeep, Jeep, Jeep, Jeep."

:

00:43:24,773 --> 00:43:25,823

They were everywhere.

:

00:43:26,253 --> 00:43:28,588

Dash: Here everybody

drives gigantic trucks

:

00:43:28,983 --> 00:43:29,223

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:43:29,515 --> 00:43:33,235

Dash: On Mother's Day it was like a

fucking truck convention on my street

:

00:43:34,872 --> 00:43:38,792

And they're all everybody in the in a

family will have the same kind It's really

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00:43:38,975 --> 00:43:39,215

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:43:39,935 --> 00:43:42,125

Dash: you want Did you bring

a down of Appalachian interest

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00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,139

Beck: I did.

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00:43:43,139 --> 00:43:47,279

I brought a very historic noun this

week, one I'm not going to do justice.

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00:43:47,339 --> 00:43:50,309

I'm sure you're gonna be able to

add plenty to it, but one that

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00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:52,049

we need to be mentioning anyway.

:

00:43:52,514 --> 00:43:56,059

This week's noun of Appalachian

interest is Maan, West Virginia,

:

00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:59,119

which is one of those places where

you can walk down the street and feel

:

00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,159

like the past is not the past at all.

:

00:44:01,369 --> 00:44:03,439

It's still standing there

with its arms crossed, waiting

:

00:44:03,439 --> 00:44:04,759

for you to ask what happened.

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00:44:05,269 --> 00:44:08,749

So mate one is a small town in Mingo

County, tucked along the Tug Fork

:

00:44:08,749 --> 00:44:10,489

River, right near the Kentucky line.

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00:44:10,819 --> 00:44:14,029

If you've never been there, picture

railroad tracks, old brick buildings,

:

00:44:14,029 --> 00:44:17,959

mountains close enough to make the sky

feel smaller, and a town that looks quiet

:

00:44:17,959 --> 00:44:19,514

until you learn what went down there.

:

00:44:20,429 --> 00:44:24,354

In:

Virginia were trying to unionize.

:

00:44:24,594 --> 00:44:27,841

The coal companies did not care

for that one bit Because workers

:

00:44:27,841 --> 00:44:30,961

asking for rights had never been a

favorite hobby of Richmond in suits.

:

00:44:31,291 --> 00:44:34,176

So the companies bought in the

Baldwin- Felt agents, who were

:

00:44:34,176 --> 00:44:37,626

basically private detectives hired

to keep minors in line and evict

:

00:44:37,626 --> 00:44:39,426

families from company owned houses.

:

00:44:39,576 --> 00:44:41,886

And that's where Sid Hatfield comes in.

:

00:44:41,916 --> 00:44:44,136

Not that Sid Hatfield,

a different Hatfield.

:

00:44:44,376 --> 00:44:46,806

Although, in this part of the world,

you're never more than three turns

:

00:44:46,806 --> 00:44:49,926

away from a Hatfield, a McCoy, or

somebody's cousin who knows both.

:

00:44:50,556 --> 00:44:53,136

Sid was the police chief in

Matewan, and instead of siding

:

00:44:53,136 --> 00:44:55,776

with the coal company, he stood

with the miners and their families.

:

00:44:56,136 --> 00:45:00,486

th,:

the town boiled over into what became

:

00:45:00,486 --> 00:45:02,196

known as the Battle of Mait One.

:

00:45:02,676 --> 00:45:05,076

There was a shootout right

there in town, and people died.

:

00:45:05,376 --> 00:45:09,006

The mayor, the miners, the, and the

Baldwin Fels agents were all caught in it.

:

00:45:09,246 --> 00:45:11,736

It was not some distant,

tidy, textbook event.

:

00:45:11,736 --> 00:45:15,216

It was people's homes, people's

jobs, people's children, and people

:

00:45:15,216 --> 00:45:18,036

trying to decide how much they

were willing to risk for dignity.

:

00:45:18,126 --> 00:45:20,436

And that's what makes Maan so interesting.

:

00:45:20,436 --> 00:45:23,856

It reminds you that Appalachian history

is not just quilts and biscuits and

:

00:45:23,856 --> 00:45:25,626

somebody's mammal yelling from the porch.

:

00:45:25,836 --> 00:45:27,996

I mean, we have those, too,

and thank God for them,

:

00:45:28,206 --> 00:45:28,386

But

:

00:45:28,386 --> 00:45:30,426

Appalachia is also union organizing.

:

00:45:30,426 --> 00:45:31,296

It's resistance.

:

00:45:31,296 --> 00:45:33,426

It's people with very little

money standing up to people

:

00:45:33,426 --> 00:45:34,566

with a whole lot of power.

:

00:45:35,016 --> 00:45:38,346

Today, mate one has the West Virginia

Mine Wars Museum, and if you go,

:

00:45:38,526 --> 00:45:41,376

you can learn about the miners, the

families, the company towns, and

:

00:45:41,376 --> 00:45:42,936

the fight for basic labor rights.

:

00:45:43,176 --> 00:45:45,486

It's the kind of history that makes

you look at a paycheck, a work

:

00:45:45,486 --> 00:45:48,756

schedule, or a boss and says, "We're

all family in here," and think,

:

00:45:48,756 --> 00:45:50,046

"Hmm, are we, though?"

:

00:45:50,603 --> 00:45:53,483

I think that's why Ma one matters

for Queer Next too, because queer

:

00:45:53,483 --> 00:45:56,123

Appalachian history and labor

history have something in common.

:

00:45:56,483 --> 00:45:59,333

Both are about people being told

to stay quiet, stay grateful,

:

00:45:59,333 --> 00:46:00,383

and stay in their place.

:

00:46:00,413 --> 00:46:00,803

and

:

00:46:00,803 --> 00:46:02,843

both are about people

eventually saying, "Nope.

:

00:46:02,873 --> 00:46:03,803

I don't believe I will."

:

00:46:04,253 --> 00:46:04,523

So, if

:

00:46:04,523 --> 00:46:06,767

you ever find yourself in ma

one, Don't treat it like a

:

00:46:06,767 --> 00:46:08,117

place you just passed through.

:

00:46:08,357 --> 00:46:09,017

Look around.

:

00:46:09,047 --> 00:46:09,887

Read the signs.

:

00:46:09,887 --> 00:46:10,877

Visit the museum.

:

00:46:11,087 --> 00:46:13,727

Stand there for a minute and remember

that this little town helped tell

:

00:46:13,727 --> 00:46:15,377

a much bigger story about workers,

:

00:46:15,587 --> 00:46:18,467

power, and what people will do

when they have finally had enough.

:

00:46:18,767 --> 00:46:19,007

mate.

:

00:46:19,007 --> 00:46:21,077

One may be small, but it is not minor.

:

00:46:21,437 --> 00:46:23,447

that has been your noun of

Appalachian Interest for this

:

00:46:23,447 --> 00:46:26,890

week, history with mountains around

it, coal dust on its boots, and

:

00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:29,280

absolutely no patience for nonsense.

:

00:46:32,214 --> 00:46:34,794

Dash: Sid Hatfield actually

was one of those Hatfields

:

00:46:35,174 --> 00:46:35,654

Beck: Oh, was he?

:

00:46:36,274 --> 00:46:39,224

Dash: Yeah He was cousin for Devil Ants.

:

00:46:39,624 --> 00:46:41,514

Beck: My best friend is a, is a Hatfield.

:

00:46:41,984 --> 00:46:44,714

It is not her last name, but that she's

related to that part of the family.

:

00:46:45,074 --> 00:46:45,344

Yeah.

:

00:46:46,179 --> 00:46:50,259

Dash: Sid Hatfield was one of the

Hatfields that like, kind of broke

:

00:46:50,259 --> 00:46:53,139

ranks and it's it's difficult to say

:

00:46:53,139 --> 00:46:54,399

in in such a place

:

00:46:54,399 --> 00:46:58,149

and time, but like you would consider him

to be more on the right side of history

:

00:46:58,419 --> 00:47:01,028

than someone like Devil Ants, who was very

:

00:47:01,028 --> 00:47:02,227

much like pro confederate.

:

00:47:02,301 --> 00:47:02,701

Beck: Right.

:

00:47:03,138 --> 00:47:06,157

Dash: do you follow Apple Shop any social

:

00:47:06,157 --> 00:47:06,907

media?

:

00:47:07,427 --> 00:47:08,147

you know what I'm talking

:

00:47:08,321 --> 00:47:09,221

Beck: Doesn't sound familiar.

:

00:47:09,651 --> 00:47:09,981

No

:

00:47:10,287 --> 00:47:10,877

Dash: It's

:

00:47:10,917 --> 00:47:13,527

I didn't really know about 'em either

until we started doing this show and I

:

00:47:13,527 --> 00:47:18,218

was just looking for, you know people

other kind of like progressive left

:

00:47:18,218 --> 00:47:22,298

it type, things in

Appalachia, but they, uh, do.

:

00:47:22,677 --> 00:47:22,802

a

:

00:47:22,802 --> 00:47:23,972

lot of history

:

00:47:23,972 --> 00:47:25,082

on the

:

00:47:25,165 --> 00:47:30,105

Cold Wars, on the labor history

of Appalachia, they have a

:

00:47:30,105 --> 00:47:32,295

podcast called APO Latcha.

:

00:47:33,258 --> 00:47:34,248

I don't know how they say it

:

00:47:34,308 --> 00:47:35,658

I always say it in my head.

:

00:47:35,658 --> 00:47:36,438

I have to pronounce

:

00:47:36,438 --> 00:47:36,648

it

:

00:47:36,708 --> 00:47:36,918

or it.

:

00:47:36,918 --> 00:47:37,938

won't make sense, but

:

00:47:38,002 --> 00:47:39,322

Beck: I, I think I do know that.

:

00:47:39,752 --> 00:47:40,142

Dash: Yeah.

:

00:47:40,195 --> 00:47:40,915

Beck: I do know that.

:

00:47:41,102 --> 00:47:42,482

Dash: it is run by Apple Shop

:

00:47:42,748 --> 00:47:45,838

Um, all actually, uh, WMMT where

:

00:47:45,838 --> 00:47:46,975

we, our,

:

00:47:46,975 --> 00:47:51,595

uh, nouns and sponsors air on Saturdays.

:

00:47:51,825 --> 00:47:53,459

they're associated with Apple Shop.

:

00:47:53,509 --> 00:47:53,749

Beck: no.

:

00:47:54,189 --> 00:47:57,022

Dash: But there's also, have

you seen the movie made one?

:

00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:58,640

Beck: Mm, No.

:

00:47:59,004 --> 00:47:59,184

Dash: I hadn't

:

00:47:59,184 --> 00:47:59,514

Heard about

:

00:47:59,514 --> 00:48:00,324

it until I took,

:

00:48:00,414 --> 00:48:03,654

uh, Cynthia Barron's course on

:

00:48:04,794 --> 00:48:05,334

theory

:

00:48:05,334 --> 00:48:07,096

which I don't think you were in

:

00:48:07,434 --> 00:48:09,359

Beck: No, I didn't take any film classes.

:

00:48:09,636 --> 00:48:09,936

Dash: Okay

:

00:48:10,436 --> 00:48:11,346

I I had

:

00:48:11,346 --> 00:48:12,096

never heard of it and

:

00:48:12,134 --> 00:48:12,224

Beck: I

:

00:48:12,224 --> 00:48:13,499

had never heard of it, and I was like,

:

00:48:13,656 --> 00:48:13,866

Dash: it's

:

00:48:13,889 --> 00:48:14,179

Beck: "Okay,

:

00:48:14,286 --> 00:48:16,324

Dash: sales film, it is about that.

:

00:48:16,324 --> 00:48:16,534

It's

:

00:48:16,534 --> 00:48:19,444

kind of, it's a, it's about the

:

00:48:19,606 --> 00:48:19,756

the

:

00:48:19,756 --> 00:48:22,726

time leading up to the Cold

Wars, specifically in Maan.

:

00:48:23,437 --> 00:48:23,987

and

:

00:48:24,088 --> 00:48:25,088

what that, how that

:

00:48:25,088 --> 00:48:26,251

movement took shape.

:

00:48:26,276 --> 00:48:29,266

There's some interesting

sub store subplots in it.

:

00:48:29,326 --> 00:48:30,626

Uh, for instance around

:

00:48:30,626 --> 00:48:31,016

like

:

00:48:31,076 --> 00:48:35,606

the racial makeup and racial

demo or, um, dynamics of that.

:

00:48:35,666 --> 00:48:36,686

There's a character

:

00:48:36,806 --> 00:48:38,690

played by James Earl Jones who

:

00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:42,836

wants to join the, the

miners and their meetings.

:

00:48:42,836 --> 00:48:44,846

And so there's this whole discussion

:

00:48:44,846 --> 00:48:47,456

of like, the people who wanna

keep him out because he's black.

:

00:48:47,624 --> 00:48:48,434

Very similar to the

:

00:48:48,434 --> 00:48:50,564

discussions in the

queer, in queer feminist

:

00:48:50,564 --> 00:48:52,274

history of like lavender menace and stuff.

:

00:48:52,274 --> 00:48:52,574

Like

:

00:48:52,984 --> 00:48:53,374

do

:

00:48:53,374 --> 00:48:57,514

you, do you contribute or

detract from our mission here?

:

00:48:57,814 --> 00:48:58,384

And then

:

00:48:58,462 --> 00:48:58,812

Beck: Right

:

00:48:59,254 --> 00:49:00,454

Dash: the other folks who were like,

:

00:49:00,507 --> 00:49:01,377

Beck: folks were like,

:

00:49:01,384 --> 00:49:02,254

Dash: He's a minor.

:

00:49:02,627 --> 00:49:06,257

I would say that we should review it

but it might not be very fun don't know

:

00:49:06,637 --> 00:49:08,597

Beck: need to pick our next

movie that we're gonna review.

:

00:49:08,954 --> 00:49:09,914

Dash: I was thinking about that this

:

00:49:09,914 --> 00:49:10,304

morning.

:

00:49:10,304 --> 00:49:11,264

It would be fun if

:

00:49:11,264 --> 00:49:12,431

we could find

:

00:49:12,431 --> 00:49:14,290

one that we had both not seen,

:

00:49:14,697 --> 00:49:15,357

but that's also

:

00:49:15,357 --> 00:49:19,510

like, really hard because how do you find

a movie that know, like you haven't seen?

:

00:49:19,664 --> 00:49:19,937

Beck: Right.

:

00:49:20,444 --> 00:49:21,434

Dash: We need Listener help.

:

00:49:21,434 --> 00:49:26,564

Maybe I'll post something on our

social media ask people comment, um, on

:

00:49:27,277 --> 00:49:28,897

or YouTube or wherever you listen if

:

00:49:28,897 --> 00:49:28,987

you

:

00:49:28,987 --> 00:49:33,802

can think of a movie that um, would be

funny, would be fun for to hear our take

:

00:49:33,802 --> 00:49:38,074

on and, um, we'll try to find something

that would neither of us has seen.

:

00:49:38,074 --> 00:49:39,334

Or we could do that thing like we

:

00:49:39,334 --> 00:49:43,384

did the first time where we pick

one that like I pick one that you

:

00:49:43,384 --> 00:49:43,534

haven't

:

00:49:43,534 --> 00:49:44,224

seen and you pick one.

:

00:49:44,224 --> 00:49:44,854

I haven't seen.

:

00:49:45,187 --> 00:49:46,207

Beck: That can be fun again.

:

00:49:46,481 --> 00:49:48,491

I still can't believe you

hadn't seen Muriel's Wedding.

:

00:49:48,843 --> 00:49:49,713

Dash: I couldn't believe it either

:

00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:49,976

Beck: I,

:

00:49:49,983 --> 00:49:50,673

Dash: when I saw it I was

:

00:49:50,673 --> 00:49:52,346

like, oh, where has this been?

:

00:49:53,231 --> 00:49:54,011

One of the things I talked

:

00:49:54,011 --> 00:49:56,141

about with them at the

interview was like they

:

00:49:56,411 --> 00:49:56,861

they might

:

00:49:56,861 --> 00:49:58,031

want to add some film

:

00:49:58,031 --> 00:50:00,731

courses, but they've never

had anybody, um, like,

:

00:50:01,031 --> 00:50:02,261

credentialed to teach them.

:

00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:03,433

so I started thinking about

:

00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:03,523

the

:

00:50:03,523 --> 00:50:03,843

kind of

:

00:50:03,938 --> 00:50:07,598

stuff I usually teach in

whatever film class I'm teaching.

:

00:50:08,288 --> 00:50:09,878

Have you seen Paris is Burning?

:

00:50:10,323 --> 00:50:11,133

Beck: No, I haven't.

:

00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:13,348

That's on my to-do list,

but no, I've not seen it.

:

00:50:13,908 --> 00:50:15,108

Dash: it's worth seeing

:

00:50:15,108 --> 00:50:19,297

because it will make a lot of other media

that, references it or draws from it.

:

00:50:19,297 --> 00:50:20,051

Makes sense.

:

00:50:20,271 --> 00:50:22,941

but I I've seen it a million

times I've I've re-watch it

:

00:50:22,941 --> 00:50:25,671

every year actually

because I always teach it.

:

00:50:25,701 --> 00:50:26,001

Whether I'm

:

00:50:26,001 --> 00:50:27,411

teaching a class or not, I I

:

00:50:27,411 --> 00:50:27,711

show

:

00:50:27,711 --> 00:50:27,891

it

:

00:50:27,891 --> 00:50:28,341

and do a

:

00:50:28,341 --> 00:50:30,111

critical, um, discussion of it.

:

00:50:30,597 --> 00:50:31,467

I always, I also

:

00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:31,700

Beck: I,

:

00:50:31,707 --> 00:50:31,827

Dash: to

:

00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:32,100

Beck: I

:

00:50:32,457 --> 00:50:33,480

Dash: um, movies and like

:

00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,150

assign them in pairs to

students that like either

:

00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:37,590

are similar or

:

00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:40,684

each are doing something

similar or they're, maybe

:

00:50:40,684 --> 00:50:41,914

they're opposites of each other.

:

00:50:42,214 --> 00:50:45,994

Like, I've done White Zombie and I Walked

With a Zombie for classic horror films.

:

00:50:46,354 --> 00:50:48,904

And what's really interesting

about that is that

:

00:50:48,904 --> 00:50:56,633

like white zombie is slash three two,

um, and it's super imperialist, racist,

:

00:50:56,633 --> 00:50:57,927

you know, white, um,

:

00:50:58,233 --> 00:51:02,413

anxiety, uh, great replacement

theory, all that shit, right?

:

00:51:02,863 --> 00:51:04,093

And then I Walked With a

:

00:51:04,093 --> 00:51:07,573

Zombie Is set in, I Think It's

:

00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:08,173

Cuba.

:

00:51:08,233 --> 00:51:08,383

It's

:

00:51:08,383 --> 00:51:09,163

in the Caribbean somewhere.

:

00:51:09,163 --> 00:51:12,103

I just forget which country a plantation.

:

00:51:12,523 --> 00:51:13,093

and

:

00:51:13,093 --> 00:51:15,864

it's a more like nuanced look at

:

00:51:16,124 --> 00:51:16,424

how the

:

00:51:16,424 --> 00:51:16,664

myth

:

00:51:16,664 --> 00:51:16,754

of

:

00:51:16,754 --> 00:51:16,844

the

:

00:51:16,844 --> 00:51:18,584

zombie actually works in that

:

00:51:18,614 --> 00:51:22,333

It's, Haiti probably makes more

sense in that culture, but it's also

:

00:51:23,023 --> 00:51:24,013

adaptation

:

00:51:24,193 --> 00:51:25,693

of wide oc

:

00:51:25,999 --> 00:51:26,839

Beck: I don't know that one either.

:

00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,338

Dash: White Sarga OC is, we're

getting into Intertextuality

:

00:51:31,338 --> 00:51:33,370

here, but like, um, it's kind of,

:

00:51:33,370 --> 00:51:33,550

a,

:

00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,060

a

:

00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:34,199

Beck: of.

:

00:51:34,204 --> 00:51:35,527

Dash: prequel to

:

00:51:35,527 --> 00:51:36,367

Jane Air

:

00:51:36,532 --> 00:51:36,822

Beck: Okay.

:

00:51:37,467 --> 00:51:41,991

Dash: it's you know, the woman in the

attic, his first wife and Grace Pool and

:

00:51:41,991 --> 00:51:42,561

all that.

:

00:51:42,591 --> 00:51:45,365

It's a, it's how did they come to be?

:

00:51:45,524 --> 00:51:46,064

how they are?

:

00:51:46,094 --> 00:51:46,424

right.

:

00:51:46,424 --> 00:51:47,564

What happened to his wife?

:

00:51:47,564 --> 00:51:47,804

Why is

:

00:51:47,804 --> 00:51:48,944

she locked in the attic?

:

00:51:49,298 --> 00:51:50,308

it that

:

00:51:50,308 --> 00:51:52,678

in the Caribbean and then they

:

00:51:52,738 --> 00:51:53,598

come to

:

00:51:53,736 --> 00:51:55,146

wherever the fuck Jane Air takes place.

:

00:51:55,146 --> 00:51:55,596

It's been forever

:

00:51:55,596 --> 00:51:56,256

since I read that.

:

00:51:56,636 --> 00:51:57,626

And so I walked with the

:

00:51:57,626 --> 00:51:58,226

zombie.

:

00:51:59,176 --> 00:52:04,142

this like I uh, speculative fiction

as they called it at the time

:

00:52:04,615 --> 00:52:07,495

of what happened to her,

Like why she went crazy?

:

00:52:07,495 --> 00:52:10,585

and needed to, why he locked

her Rochester locked her in the

:

00:52:10,675 --> 00:52:12,055

attic, It's a

:

00:52:12,055 --> 00:52:12,655

zombie movie.

:

00:52:12,955 --> 00:52:13,345

I dunno.

:

00:52:13,525 --> 00:52:13,915

Really

:

00:52:13,915 --> 00:52:15,175

fascinating movie actually.

:

00:52:20,538 --> 00:52:21,438

But another one I

:

00:52:21,438 --> 00:52:23,688

would do, I would like

pair that I would teach

:

00:52:23,688 --> 00:52:24,018

together

:

00:52:24,018 --> 00:52:24,708

is Two Wong Fu.

:

00:52:24,708 --> 00:52:25,368

Thanks for everything.

:

00:52:25,368 --> 00:52:26,088

Julie Newmar

:

00:52:26,118 --> 00:52:28,213

and Priscilla Queen of the Desert

:

00:52:28,628 --> 00:52:33,618

Beck: I've seen that one once a long time

ago, but I've seen Julie Numar a dozen,

:

00:52:34,038 --> 00:52:34,998

two dozen times.

:

00:52:35,343 --> 00:52:35,633

Yeah.

:

00:52:36,343 --> 00:52:39,773

Dash: I thought about that movie because

I said something a few episodes back

:

00:52:39,773 --> 00:52:43,671

about like, we don't often see

Helpful a redneck trope, you

:

00:52:43,671 --> 00:52:46,191

expect that someone's gonna be...

:

00:52:46,601 --> 00:52:48,671

You're getting into Deliverance,

and they're actually a

:

00:52:48,671 --> 00:52:50,321

nuanced character that is...

:

00:52:50,621 --> 00:52:50,981

And,

:

00:52:51,011 --> 00:52:52,151

uh, two two Wong Fu is

:

00:52:52,151 --> 00:52:52,241

an

:

00:52:52,241 --> 00:52:53,531

example of that happening.

:

00:52:53,711 --> 00:52:59,311

Like the town of Yokels is more how

they're described than Cause it's

:

00:52:59,311 --> 00:52:59,641

more of an

:

00:52:59,641 --> 00:53:00,811

Oklahoma situation, right?

:

00:53:00,811 --> 00:53:02,851

They're somewhere in the south or Midwest.

:

00:53:03,577 --> 00:53:04,387

But still that's,

:

00:53:04,515 --> 00:53:05,015

Beck: But still,

:

00:53:05,077 --> 00:53:05,137

Dash: of

:

00:53:05,255 --> 00:53:05,682

Beck: that's an

:

00:53:05,941 --> 00:53:07,771

Dash: sucker Channing's

character in particular,

:

00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:09,325

Beck: She's one of my favorite actresses.

:

00:53:09,966 --> 00:53:10,356

Dash: Really

:

00:53:10,871 --> 00:53:11,201

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:53:11,651 --> 00:53:13,541

I liked most of things that she's been in

:

00:53:13,856 --> 00:53:15,386

Dash: talking about movies

that are coming out.

:

00:53:15,851 --> 00:53:16,601

First of all, it's,

:

00:53:16,660 --> 00:53:17,250

Beck: First of all,

:

00:53:17,471 --> 00:53:19,841

Dash: all the summer horror movies

are coming out which I'm not gonna

:

00:53:20,161 --> 00:53:22,081

I mean I'll tell you when I see

them but I'm not gonna expect

:

00:53:22,081 --> 00:53:22,681

you to see them.

:

00:53:22,855 --> 00:53:24,505

there are some movies coming out that

:

00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:28,195

are exciting one of which is

the sequel to Practical Magic

:

00:53:28,675 --> 00:53:35,395

Beck: I just read Practical Magic the

book um, and I saw the, uh, trailer for

:

00:53:35,395 --> 00:53:38,855

it, and it's basically the second half

of the book from what I can understand.

:

00:53:38,975 --> 00:53:39,275

So...

:

00:53:39,437 --> 00:53:39,657

Dash: Oh,

:

00:53:40,238 --> 00:53:41,953

cool I didn't read the book

:

00:53:42,478 --> 00:53:45,088

Beck: I listened to it but I

on audio book, but same thing.

:

00:53:45,353 --> 00:53:46,733

audio books are, are reading.

:

00:53:47,173 --> 00:53:47,443

Yeah.

:

00:53:47,878 --> 00:53:49,048

There's a big debate about that.

:

00:53:49,048 --> 00:53:50,878

People say that audio books

aren't reading because you're not

:

00:53:50,878 --> 00:53:52,198

actually looking at the words.

:

00:53:52,369 --> 00:53:52,579

Dash: I

:

00:53:52,579 --> 00:53:53,113

can't

:

00:53:53,739 --> 00:53:56,044

Beck: in the past six months,

I've listened to like, 10 books.

:

00:53:56,104 --> 00:53:58,264

So, you know, I can tell

you what they're about.

:

00:53:58,264 --> 00:53:59,224

I can tell you main themes.

:

00:53:59,224 --> 00:54:00,184

I can tell you characters.

:

00:54:00,184 --> 00:54:01,234

I can tell you all those things.

:

00:54:01,234 --> 00:54:02,374

That's the same as reading.

:

00:54:02,925 --> 00:54:04,055

Dash: These sort of purity

:

00:54:04,055 --> 00:54:04,535

tests are

:

00:54:04,535 --> 00:54:06,095

so fucking tired.

:

00:54:07,299 --> 00:54:08,169

the only thing that

:

00:54:08,169 --> 00:54:09,699

matters is whether you understood it.

:

00:54:09,729 --> 00:54:11,139

So if I'm trying to...

:

00:54:11,379 --> 00:54:12,249

I'm not gonna have

:

00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:13,149

Darida or

:

00:54:13,149 --> 00:54:14,439

Chris jva read to me,

:

00:54:14,439 --> 00:54:16,209

because I would be pausing

:

00:54:16,209 --> 00:54:18,579

it every other sentence and

trying to go like, okay, what

:

00:54:18,579 --> 00:54:19,749

the fuck were they talking about?

:

00:54:19,913 --> 00:54:21,983

but a novel, yeah,

:

00:54:22,163 --> 00:54:23,003

let me listen to it.

:

00:54:23,003 --> 00:54:23,663

It's more likely

:

00:54:23,772 --> 00:54:24,062

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:26,423

Dash: I'm not gonna sit and

read a novel because I'm not

:

00:54:26,612 --> 00:54:26,902

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:54:26,963 --> 00:54:27,713

Dash: good at reading,

:

00:54:27,713 --> 00:54:28,043

right?

:

00:54:28,043 --> 00:54:29,603

Like I'm I'm dyslexic.

:

00:54:29,783 --> 00:54:30,803

I read out of order.

:

00:54:31,103 --> 00:54:35,363

I still have to pause and, and like

let my brain, it's like I'll look at

:

00:54:35,363 --> 00:54:35,753

it and

:

00:54:35,753 --> 00:54:35,933

all

:

00:54:35,933 --> 00:54:38,393

the letters are kind of

blown apart and I have

:

00:54:38,393 --> 00:54:41,063

to stop and like look into the of my brain

:

00:54:41,093 --> 00:54:42,473

where they assemble themselves

:

00:54:42,473 --> 00:54:42,743

into a

:

00:54:42,743 --> 00:54:43,523

paragraph.

:

00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:43,980

it

:

00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:45,975

takes me a long time to read shit I

:

00:54:46,178 --> 00:54:46,538

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:54:46,665 --> 00:54:47,175

Dash: a lot.

:

00:54:47,175 --> 00:54:50,025

but like, I don't have a

ton of time these days.

:

00:54:50,223 --> 00:54:51,873

Beck: that's why I do

it in the car, you know.

:

00:54:51,951 --> 00:54:54,795

I have lots of free time in the

car, nothing else I'm doing.

:

00:54:54,855 --> 00:54:57,495

And like I said, I've listened to

probably 10 books in the last six

:

00:54:57,495 --> 00:55:00,975

months, which is 10 more books than

I was able to get to last year.

:

00:55:01,165 --> 00:55:05,595

You know, so it has really increased

my, my consumption of, of media,

:

00:55:05,595 --> 00:55:09,375

which I really appreciate, that isn't

TV or, or that kind of thing, so.

:

00:55:09,945 --> 00:55:13,755

Hoopla and Spotify has almost every book

you can imagine between the two of 'em.

:

00:55:14,075 --> 00:55:14,365

Dash: Yeah

:

00:55:14,955 --> 00:55:19,349

Beck: And you get a like, 12 free hours

a month of Spotify Audio books Might be

:

00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:23,319

more than that, but you so many hours

a month of, of audio books included.

:

00:55:23,794 --> 00:55:25,774

Dash: Oh shit So it's not coming out for

:

00:55:25,787 --> 00:55:26,127

Beck: So it

:

00:55:26,134 --> 00:55:26,644

Dash: time, but

:

00:55:26,644 --> 00:55:27,934

there's a a movie

:

00:55:27,994 --> 00:55:32,845

I want us to review and

it is a scary movie, but.

:

00:55:33,470 --> 00:55:38,210

It is a lesbian scary movie It's

it's, it's gonna be one of a kind.

:

00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:40,790

We are there's not been a movie like this.

:

00:55:41,268 --> 00:55:43,720

It's doing things to a genre.

:

00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:46,930

So an established genre

of like the sleepaway camp

:

00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:48,280

type of thing,

:

00:55:48,490 --> 00:55:48,640

And

:

00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:49,630

it's, it's lesbian.

:

00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:50,560

it's called

:

00:55:50,740 --> 00:55:53,500

Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.

:

00:55:54,058 --> 00:55:54,268

it

:

00:55:54,268 --> 00:55:55,498

stars what's her

:

00:55:55,567 --> 00:55:57,142

Beck: Roll, rolls right off the tongue

:

00:55:57,148 --> 00:55:57,838

... Dash: Yeah, doesn't it?

:

00:55:59,230 --> 00:56:03,147

Hannah n Binder, NI don't know

how to pronounce her name.

:

00:56:03,327 --> 00:56:04,287

I'm not super familiar with

:

00:56:04,347 --> 00:56:04,887

because I don't watch

:

00:56:04,887 --> 00:56:05,367

hacks.

:

00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:11,476

and, uh, Jillian Anderson, who

I would take a bullet for, and,

:

00:56:11,476 --> 00:56:12,158

so it's like a

:

00:56:12,158 --> 00:56:15,617

satire, queer satire of Eighties

:

00:56:15,677 --> 00:56:18,707

and nineties genre of

sleepaway camp, slasher

:

00:56:18,707 --> 00:56:20,417

film, and it's made

:

00:56:20,417 --> 00:56:23,134

by Jane Scho, who is, bro.

:

00:56:23,424 --> 00:56:26,808

Scho, I'm probably saying

that wrong, but, they made

:

00:56:27,058 --> 00:56:28,978

We're All Going to the World's Fair and

:

00:56:28,978 --> 00:56:30,028

I saw the TV glow.

:

00:56:30,503 --> 00:56:31,823

or are you familiar with either of Those

:

00:56:31,936 --> 00:56:32,566

Beck: No,

:

00:56:32,753 --> 00:56:34,111

Dash: Mm, So

:

00:56:34,255 --> 00:56:36,505

Beck: I do not have my

finger on the pulse of work.

:

00:56:36,565 --> 00:56:36,985

so.

:

00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:39,050

Dash: well I'm recon

:

00:56:39,260 --> 00:56:40,520

we should, maybe we should watch,

:

00:56:40,580 --> 00:56:41,060

I, uh,

:

00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:44,420

I saw the TV glow because people, multiple

:

00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:49,156

people have made the assumption

that I will have seen it, I have it.

:

00:56:49,246 --> 00:56:53,933

but I can't, I haven't been able

to, to push play on it because.

:

00:56:54,432 --> 00:56:55,452

my worry is that

:

00:56:55,452 --> 00:56:56,412

it's going to, that

:

00:56:56,412 --> 00:56:58,182

it's gonna do a thing where it

:

00:56:58,182 --> 00:56:59,922

explains something I already know to me.

:

00:57:00,243 --> 00:57:02,703

And I, I'm, I'm not as

worried about that anymore.

:

00:57:02,818 --> 00:57:04,023

I, I was worried about this when

:

00:57:04,023 --> 00:57:04,083

it.

:

00:57:04,083 --> 00:57:07,023

came out because I'm like, oh,

everybody's saying it's a, it's a queer

:

00:57:07,023 --> 00:57:08,883

allegory or it's a trans allegory.

:

00:57:09,363 --> 00:57:13,323

it's, it's heavily about nostalgic

media, and I'm really sensitive to that

:

00:57:13,358 --> 00:57:17,043

I don't I care about that almost more

than I care about fucking queerness

:

00:57:17,043 --> 00:57:22,533

you know Like if you're gonna if

making a movie about nostalgic media

:

00:57:22,794 --> 00:57:23,814

I wanted to be good.

:

00:57:23,814 --> 00:57:27,164

and so I think I wasn't in a good

head space when it came out 'cause

:

00:57:27,194 --> 00:57:29,054

a couple, couple, few years old now.

:

00:57:29,054 --> 00:57:30,157

I think it's from:

:

00:57:30,657 --> 00:57:31,892

But now that I, I went

:

00:57:31,892 --> 00:57:33,902

back and watched their first movie.

:

00:57:33,902 --> 00:57:34,562

We're all Going to the

:

00:57:34,562 --> 00:57:35,222

World's Fair.

:

00:57:35,222 --> 00:57:35,582

And it's

:

00:57:35,642 --> 00:57:38,462

weird and experimental and

unlike anything I've ever

:

00:57:38,462 --> 00:57:39,032

seen.

:

00:57:39,032 --> 00:57:43,012

And so I'm like, okay, now, now

I'm might watch, I saw the TV.

:

00:57:43,592 --> 00:57:48,234

I dunno, I'll post it on social

media and ask the listeners and

:

00:57:48,603 --> 00:57:52,334

y'all tell us through whatever means

you can, if that would be interesting

:

00:57:52,334 --> 00:57:55,574

to you to hear us talk about that

because it would be a blind react.

:

00:57:55,574 --> 00:57:56,684

Neither of us has seen it.

:

00:57:57,096 --> 00:58:01,266

I don't think it's like disgusting,

scary, you know, I think it's more.

:

00:58:01,266 --> 00:58:03,066

of an atmospheric horror movie.

:

00:58:03,366 --> 00:58:03,966

We'll see.

:

00:58:04,111 --> 00:58:07,831

But when, but the, uh,

Teenage Sex and Death at

:

00:58:07,831 --> 00:58:08,761

Camp Me Asthma

:

00:58:08,881 --> 00:58:10,981

is, it doesn't come out until like August.

:

00:58:11,041 --> 00:58:11,941

Until August 7th.

:

00:58:11,941 --> 00:58:14,571

It's not released in

theater, so it'll be a while.

:

00:58:15,041 --> 00:58:15,371

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:58:15,721 --> 00:58:18,631

We have a theater very close to

our house, but I'm still scared

:

00:58:18,631 --> 00:58:19,891

of going to the movies, man.

:

00:58:20,191 --> 00:58:22,651

Since people started getting

shot up in them, I just

:

00:58:22,733 --> 00:58:22,883

Dash: yeah

:

00:58:23,431 --> 00:58:24,241

Beck: It scares me.

:

00:58:24,301 --> 00:58:26,281

I haven't been to the movie in

literally probably 10 years.

:

00:58:27,123 --> 00:58:30,173

Dash: Wow I okay I didn't

I didn't know you had that

:

00:58:30,533 --> 00:58:32,910

Fear it is claustrophobic.

:

00:58:32,910 --> 00:58:33,390

I mean, you're

:

00:58:34,212 --> 00:58:36,822

I do a lot of thinking about where to sit

:

00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:39,829

right now my movie buddy is

my friend Elise up in Morris.

:

00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:42,649

And we always, you know, talk

about, like, we're like okay,

:

00:58:42,649 --> 00:58:43,909

where, where do we wanna sit?

:

00:58:44,149 --> 00:58:45,911

Um, does it matter to you Right?

:

00:58:45,911 --> 00:58:48,761

Like, what what are you worried

about versus what am I worried about?

:

00:58:48,761 --> 00:58:52,061

Because, you know, maybe for her it's

like getting out to the bathroom cause she

:

00:58:52,061 --> 00:58:53,851

has, a, some sort of stomach disease

:

00:58:54,461 --> 00:58:56,981

And for me I'm like,

"Okay, where's the exit?"

:

00:58:57,561 --> 00:59:00,951

yeah, I mean, it's hard to If

something like that takes root, and

:

00:59:00,951 --> 00:59:04,598

it's understandable that it would,

it isn't gonna go away unless you

:

00:59:04,598 --> 00:59:07,038

just going to the theater So then

:

00:59:07,056 --> 00:59:07,346

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:59:07,368 --> 00:59:08,718

Dash: a question of how

important is it to you?

:

00:59:08,758 --> 00:59:09,008

Beck: Right.

:

00:59:09,218 --> 00:59:12,038

Dash: I would give a lot to be able to

go to the theater whenever I wanted to

:

00:59:12,398 --> 00:59:14,408

cause movies are very important to me

:

00:59:14,828 --> 00:59:19,588

Beck: We've got an a MC multi-screen

... We've got a mall and the next exit up.

:

00:59:19,588 --> 00:59:21,238

It's huge, but nobody goes to it.

:

00:59:21,568 --> 00:59:22,108

So,

:

00:59:22,548 --> 00:59:22,788

Dash: Yeah The

:

00:59:23,036 --> 00:59:23,276

Beck: there's

:

00:59:24,236 --> 00:59:24,656

... Yeah.

:

00:59:25,256 --> 00:59:26,276

They do have a P.F.

:

00:59:26,276 --> 00:59:29,946

Chang's and a Red Robin,

and a Barnes & and Nobles.

:

00:59:29,946 --> 00:59:33,306

is still actual honest to God

Barnes & and Noble is still there.

:

00:59:33,886 --> 00:59:35,026

there was a Bath & and Body Works.

:

00:59:35,026 --> 00:59:38,116

It only lasted, like, two months

there, like, 'cause nobody goes there.

:

00:59:38,596 --> 00:59:39,496

sh got to go once.

:

00:59:39,985 --> 00:59:41,665

Dash: There's a mall in Fargo

:

00:59:42,019 --> 00:59:42,369

Beck: Margo.

:

00:59:42,445 --> 00:59:45,505

Dash: is doing okay Every time I go

to it there's actually people at it

:

00:59:45,995 --> 00:59:46,375

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:59:46,721 --> 00:59:48,821

They've also got a Dillard's

there in a JC Penney.

:

00:59:49,261 --> 00:59:50,311

Dash: Is there a talbut?

:

00:59:50,761 --> 00:59:51,241

Beck: I don't know.

:

00:59:51,241 --> 00:59:52,231

I haven't seen that one.

:

00:59:52,496 --> 00:59:56,884

Dash: There's this really incredible

movie that Claire and I watched about 10

:

00:59:56,884 --> 01:00:04,884

years ago now super indie lesbian movie

called The Foxy Merkins um, which is

:

01:00:04,974 --> 01:00:08,034

one of my favorite titles of movies ever

:

01:00:08,518 --> 01:00:11,348

Beck: We're talking about merkins

like the, the vagina wigs, right?

:

01:00:12,098 --> 01:00:12,388

Okay.

:

01:00:12,488 --> 01:00:12,788

All right.

:

01:00:13,540 --> 01:00:16,290

Dash: There's this there's

Actually okay we're gonna we're

:

01:00:16,378 --> 01:00:16,668

Beck: Okay.

:

01:00:16,770 --> 01:00:20,430

Dash: The Foxy Merkins because I haven't

seen it in forever and I just Googled it

:

01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:24,640

and all these like images are are really

making me wanna watch it in, cause I've

:

01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:30,070

only seen it the one time and there are

things I still quote from it But the sort

:

01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:34,706

of plot or the the premise is that there's

these two women who are and they're both

:

01:00:34,706 --> 01:00:39,776

sex workers and you know they each have

like their type their typical kind of

:

01:00:39,776 --> 01:00:45,369

customer And the one woman is like, very

like maybe classic big bodied, butch

:

01:00:45,369 --> 01:00:50,813

lesbian you know with her she's got her

short black haircut and she picks up I'm

:

01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:53,813

not even gonna say middle-aged women These

are like women of a certain age is what

:

01:00:53,813 --> 01:00:56,393

I would call this outside of Talbots.

:

01:00:57,068 --> 01:01:08,164

she stands she just stands outside Talbots

and solicits these elderly women for sex

:

01:01:08,634 --> 01:01:12,499

And and the title comes from like, at

one point they meet a merkin salesman

:

01:01:12,874 --> 01:01:16,654

in a graveyard and I don't remember

why I don't remember what the movie's

:

01:01:16,654 --> 01:01:21,414

actually about but I just remember it

being ridiculous and unique Where's this

:

01:01:21,414 --> 01:01:26,994

playing Oh it's on Well you can rent it

from YouTube Watch movie Where can I watch

:

01:01:27,168 --> 01:01:27,978

Beck: And what's it called?

:

01:01:28,448 --> 01:01:29,978

Dash: The Foxy Merkins

:

01:01:30,451 --> 01:01:31,531

Beck: The Foxy Merkins.

:

01:01:32,441 --> 01:01:38,171

Dash: Wait is this on Netflix Nope I

wish Netflix would fucking scrub the

:

01:01:38,171 --> 01:01:45,811

old broken links of movies from this is,

this is amateur Behavior, Google Play.

:

01:01:46,274 --> 01:01:47,654

I don't know, maybe.

:

01:01:47,684 --> 01:01:51,764

Maybe it fell off the back of a

truck somewhere I'll find it But yeah

:

01:01:52,264 --> 01:01:55,204

Maybe the trailer Where's the trailer

:

01:01:56,070 --> 01:01:57,030

Speaker: Foxy Americans.

:

01:01:58,170 --> 01:01:58,530

Foxy.

:

01:01:58,530 --> 01:02:01,295

Americans love f Foxy Americans.

:

01:02:02,835 --> 01:02:05,370

Speaker 2: Oh, he's a,

he's an American salesman.

:

01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:05,520

He's a

:

01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:05,790

Speaker: Foxy

:

01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:06,210

Speaker 3: Americans.

:

01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:07,350

Speaker 2: What's a American?

:

01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,910

It's a tope for your vagina.

:

01:02:09,045 --> 01:02:09,335

What,

:

01:02:09,570 --> 01:02:10,295

Speaker 3: what kind of cut you like?

:

01:02:10,935 --> 01:02:12,060

Speaker 4: I like a little smaller,

:

01:02:12,060 --> 01:02:13,860

Speaker 3: small petit vagina.

:

01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:14,610

Yeah.

:

01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:15,870

One of those,

:

01:02:16,335 --> 01:02:17,455

Speaker 5: I, I, you should get one.

:

01:02:17,465 --> 01:02:17,815

Petit

:

01:02:17,975 --> 01:02:18,015

Speaker 3: em.

:

01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:19,890

Speaker 5: I have a plus size vagina.

:

01:02:24,405 --> 01:02:25,710

Beck: Well, that was bizarro.

:

01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:26,790

Yeah, I wanna see that.

:

01:02:27,180 --> 01:02:28,140

Dash: yeah, let's do it.

:

01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,430

I'll, I'll see if I can...

:

01:02:29,490 --> 01:02:31,200

I'll, I'll get it for us somewhere.

:

01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:31,800

Listeners,

:

01:02:32,244 --> 01:02:32,534

Beck: Okay.

:

01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,340

Dash: see see if you

can find it somewhere.

:

01:02:35,850 --> 01:02:37,560

You know, maybe it'll

appear in our Discord.

:

01:02:37,785 --> 01:02:41,580

So why don't, don't you send us an email?

:

01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:45,220

I know that someone already

did, and we'll just add you.

:

01:02:45,250 --> 01:02:47,770

Literally just email us

at mailbag@queernecks.com

:

01:02:49,210 --> 01:02:52,980

and I'll add you to our

Discord if I trust you.

:

01:02:53,435 --> 01:02:55,000

So yeah, I don't know when we'll do that.

:

01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,850

We'll decide off air when we're

gonna do that, and then uh, yeah.

:

01:02:58,294 --> 01:03:00,124

Well, what are you doing

the rest of the day?

:

01:03:00,524 --> 01:03:01,004

Beck: Writing.

:

01:03:01,817 --> 01:03:02,297

Dash: Nice.

:

01:03:02,727 --> 01:03:06,417

Beck: And then Shannon will be home in a

couple of hours, and we'll probably go get

:

01:03:06,417 --> 01:03:07,977

something to eat or something like that.

:

01:03:07,977 --> 01:03:10,557

But yeah, writing is on

my agenda for today, so...

:

01:03:11,057 --> 01:03:11,387

Dash: Cool.

:

01:03:11,540 --> 01:03:11,785

Beck: What about you?

:

01:03:12,334 --> 01:03:16,104

Dash: I think I, I want to

take my bike out, 'cause it's,

:

01:03:16,254 --> 01:03:18,084

it's actually above 70 degrees.

:

01:03:18,174 --> 01:03:19,974

Well, it's not yet, but it's going to be.

:

01:03:20,454 --> 01:03:25,959

And I, I'm a real just daisy about

being on the bike if it's too cold.

:

01:03:25,959 --> 01:03:30,184

I just can't stand cold air rushing

over my, my face and my ears.

:

01:03:30,184 --> 01:03:31,354

My sinuses hurt.

:

01:03:31,684 --> 01:03:35,524

The incision on my neck hurts

if cold, if it gets too cold.

:

01:03:36,574 --> 01:03:37,174

so I just...

:

01:03:37,234 --> 01:03:38,374

I'm, I'm a baby.

:

01:03:38,589 --> 01:03:42,179

But if it's, But I love being on

my bike when it's hot outside.

:

01:03:42,609 --> 01:03:43,449

So I might do that.

:

01:03:43,449 --> 01:03:46,869

I also need to clean, which I've

been needing to do for months.

:

01:03:47,204 --> 01:03:49,124

Beck: Yeah, we could use

a clean in here, too.

:

01:03:50,082 --> 01:03:53,922

Have you heard the I Think That I

Just Got More Gay song by 76th Street?

:

01:03:54,377 --> 01:03:54,797

Dash: now.

:

01:03:55,046 --> 01:03:56,741

Beck: I've got that line stuck in my head.

:

01:03:56,891 --> 01:03:59,201

I think that I just got more gay.

:

01:03:59,731 --> 01:04:00,901

It's really funny.

:

01:04:00,901 --> 01:04:01,951

You should check it out.

:

01:04:02,401 --> 01:04:06,151

The way I want her tattooed,

arms around my waist.

:

01:04:06,151 --> 01:04:08,371

It's- they're a lesbian duo.

:

01:04:08,686 --> 01:04:10,061

They sing lesbian music.

:

01:04:10,502 --> 01:04:10,792

Dash: Okay.

:

01:04:11,317 --> 01:04:12,367

Beck: so I recommend them.

:

01:04:12,367 --> 01:04:15,007

76th Street, I Think

That I Just Got More Gay.

:

01:04:15,307 --> 01:04:19,087

Dash: I found a YouTube channel

that is a bunch of little half hour,

:

01:04:19,127 --> 01:04:26,527

histories of bands, and he has a real

appreciation for the and two thousands.

:

01:04:26,922 --> 01:04:29,982

girl alternative lesbian rock type stuff.

:

01:04:30,022 --> 01:04:30,322

Like I

:

01:04:30,341 --> 01:04:30,631

Beck: Nice.

:

01:04:30,952 --> 01:04:33,622

Dash: um, a thing about The Breeders.

:

01:04:33,622 --> 01:04:35,272

I watched one about uch Salt.

:

01:04:35,962 --> 01:04:41,212

didn't know that uch Salt broke

up because of rumors and constant

:

01:04:41,212 --> 01:04:44,872

bullying, calling them an industry plant

because they were just so talented.

:

01:04:45,182 --> 01:04:45,471

Beck: Yeah.

:

01:04:46,017 --> 01:04:46,587

Wow.

:

01:04:47,069 --> 01:04:47,269

Dash: criminal.

:

01:04:47,479 --> 01:04:49,264

Eight Arms to Hold You is...

:

01:04:49,694 --> 01:04:51,764

That might be my favorite

album of all time.

:

01:04:52,224 --> 01:04:53,784

It was very formative to me.

:

01:04:54,234 --> 01:04:54,984

Well, music,

:

01:04:54,984 --> 01:04:58,344

I think, I think music plays a big part

in a lot of people's coming of age.

:

01:04:58,839 --> 01:04:59,784

and so

:

01:04:59,872 --> 01:05:00,292

Beck: And so

:

01:05:00,384 --> 01:05:00,714

Dash: queer

:

01:05:00,721 --> 01:05:02,652

Beck: finding queer as

:

01:05:02,754 --> 01:05:03,024

Dash: baby

:

01:05:03,212 --> 01:05:03,872

Beck: little baby

:

01:05:04,114 --> 01:05:05,014

Dash: was important

:

01:05:05,092 --> 01:05:05,312

Beck: was,

:

01:05:05,614 --> 01:05:07,534

Dash: who didn't have access to community.

:

01:05:07,697 --> 01:05:07,987

Beck: yeah,

:

01:05:08,247 --> 01:05:10,737

Dash: it's not like I could watch

a queer film anytime I wanted to.

:

01:05:11,467 --> 01:05:15,607

but music, I could always

have the queer music I liked.

:

01:05:16,082 --> 01:05:18,522

Well, I can't think of

anything else to say.

:

01:05:18,962 --> 01:05:20,507

Beck: Keep your fingers crossed

for rude that everything's

:

01:05:20,507 --> 01:05:21,872

okay and it's just asthma

:

01:05:22,494 --> 01:05:23,064

Dash: Yeah.

:

01:05:23,124 --> 01:05:25,974

Well, I mean, and asthma is still,

that's something to manage, but,

:

01:05:26,582 --> 01:05:28,922

Beck: Right, but there are the

worst things it could be, so

:

01:05:29,544 --> 01:05:32,070

Dash: That's true, Yeah,

Hanging there, Baby ru.

:

01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:32,970

Well,

:

01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,190

for hanging out another week.

:

01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,680

We will let y'all know, About the

Foxy kins and whatever we're gonna do.

:

01:05:41,330 --> 01:05:43,550

Maybe that'll be our year episode.

:

01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,090

I don't know.

:

01:05:44,550 --> 01:05:46,020

And be good.

:

01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:46,710

Have a good week.

:

01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,550

Say how to your mom and them.

:

01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:48,630

Beck: Bye

:

01:05:48,657 --> 01:05:48,877

Dash: Bye.

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