The Cats of Queernecks 2027 Calendar
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SEND US YOUR CAT PICTURESQueernecks hosts Beck and Dash riff on pets, prescription drugs, a listener-submitted cat calendar idea, and new show stickers. Featuring the family desktop and the Greenbriar Ghost, complaining about AI slop in the classroom, and some other stuff we forgot between recording and now.
00:00 Welcome to Queernecks
00:28 Pets and Zoom Confusion
01:50 Cats Train Humans
03:19 Back on Adderall
04:34 Rescuing a New Cat
06:02 Beloved Cats Remembered
08:05 Cats Calendar and Merch
13:42 New Job and Office Drama
19:25 Catching Students Using AI
27:14 Teaching Consent and Sex Ed
30:00 Life Updates and Sports
32:42 Bedtime Cats and Beef Recall
34:44 Tariff Beef News
36:18 Shirt Check Detour
36:37 Reclaiming Problem Merch
41:20 Job Moves And Pay
43:17 Driving Back Roads
45:04 Sponsor Family Desktop
47:17 Old Internet Dating
51:34 Olivia Wilde Auteur Talk
57:33 Greenbrier Ghost Story
01:00:14 Procedurals And Spooky Picks
01:01:09 Wheel App And Earworms
01:03:13 Mailbag And Signoff
#Podcasters #Pets #QueernecksPodcast #BeefRecall #PodcastRecommendation
Transcript
Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that puts the
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:Yee Hall in y'all means hall.
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:I'm your host, Beck,
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:Dash: and I'm your host.
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:Dash.
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:Welcome to today's episode.
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:I don't know what f- I don't know
why she wants to sit here and talk.
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:U- unless she really does think
that I'm talking to her, and
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:she's like, "What's wrong?
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:I'm right here."
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:I'm not talking to you.
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:I'm talking to Beck
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:Beck: Your imaginary friends again,
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:Beck: That's what she, that's
what she's saying to you
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:Zoom meetings must
really fuck with, like…
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:Well, cats in part- I
don't know about dogs.
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:I don't know how bright dogs are, but cats
are very much, like, just bright enough
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:to put together that something's different
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:Beck: Well, when w- 'cause I w- she calls
on her way home from work and I call on
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:my home way home from work, and we both
use speakerphone, so they know that when
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:we're on the phone speakerphone that
we're coming home, and the dogs, like,
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:get excited and start staring at the door.
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:So
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:Dash: Yehaw
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:Mine, they know the sound of my vehicle.
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:Oscar does.
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:He always has been able
to tell the vehicle of…
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:I've b- gone through so many vehicles
since he's, uh, come to live with me.
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:And I think they also can tell,
not time, but, you know, cats know,
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:they can tell by the light what,
you know, part of the day it is.
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:Beck: smell,
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:Dash: Mm-hmm.
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:Beck: your smell dissipates
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:Beck: of him, that means it's
time for him to come home
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:But even if I am home, they kinda
know when dinnertime is, and it could
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:also just be that they're hungry.
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:So they start, like, acting up.
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:And it's always right, like, at a
really annoying part of the day.
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:Like, I'm try- I'm trying to,
like, log off work or something,
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:and they're, like, all over me
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:Beck: I've read that if you want to
remember, if you have a pill that you
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:need to take or something that you need to
remember every day, give your cat a treat
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:every time you do it and they'll never let
you forget that it's time to do the thing
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:Dash: Ziggy has put together that if I
have insomnia and I can't sleep, then
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:I have to get up and go downstairs.
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:' Cause if I can't sleep and I, if I
stay in bed and just try to fall back
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:asleep, I just get pissed off, and I
get, like, more and more angry, and I'm
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:not gonna fall back asleep that way.
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:So if I want to get any more sleep,
I have to get up, go do something.
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:Like, it's my whole morning.
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:Like, I will make coffee and sit
in the recliner and do something
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:until I start to feel sleepy again.
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:And so she's put together that if I
do that, she can get treats out of me.
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:But then that created an issue because
it's 2:00 AM, I have to turn the light
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:on in the dining room, and I never do.
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:She's got hair, her hair in my mouth.
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:So the only time I turn on that
light in the big, like, bright light
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:in the dining room is when it's
2:00 AM and I'm walking through to
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:the kitchen 'cause I can't sleep.
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:And so now if I flip that
switch at all, and it makes…
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:That's one of the loudest
switches in the house.
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:It makes a really loud, like, pop.
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:It travels through the whole house.
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:That's, like, a Pavlov switch.
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:They all come running like, "Oh, God.
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:We're gonna get treats."
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:So now I literally can't use
that light, like, not for…
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:The world could be ending and it could
be like, you know, somebody could break
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:in and be like, "Turn on the light."
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:I'm like, "Are you sure?
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:' Cause we're gonna get mobbed."
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:They put me back on my Adderall.
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:I g- I've got a, a new doctor.
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:And I'm, I'm really grateful.
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:She's really cool, but I hadn't
been used to it anymore, and m- they
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:had, they were, like, increasing my
dose, so it's actually kind of high.
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:Are you over there, like, chugging pills
now because I reminded you that you're
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:supposed to take your afternoon pills?
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:My afternoon Adderall
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:Dash: I used to and I couldn't
remember the second one.
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:I never remembered it.
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:So they just, what- whatever they
give, whatever I take in the morning
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:for the extended release, that's it.
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:But they increased it, and so after
having been off of it for several
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:weeks, I started back on it today,
and I was trying to do something, and
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:I was like, my heart was pounding.
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:It was like I kind of
forgot that this is…
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:I mean, it's a hardcore drug.
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:you know, if you take it right,
then it just kind of helps like
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:it's supposed to, or like it…
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:Nothing is supposed to do anything,
but, you know, like it does.
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:But if for whatever reason you go
off of it and don't, and you're not
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:used to it anymore, and it, like,
to go back on, and I jumped right
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:back into the higher dose too, and
so that we didn't, like, titrate up.
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:I was like, "Whew, I
am Ready to lift a car.
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:Did you hear
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:Beck: I'm so excited we're
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:Dash: her?
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:Beck: a cat
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:Dash: Okay, you wanna tell
the listeners what happened?
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:Beck: The whole thing started
where, you know how most towns
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:have, like, a Facebook page where
people post, "Lost dog," "I have
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:Dash: Mm-hmm.
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:Beck: for sale," or whatever.
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:Somebody found a big, fat, uh,
cat that was declawed outside,
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:and they took it to the vet.
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:They checked the, the, uh, chip, and they
called the owners, and it's been like five
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:days now, and there's been no return call.
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:So in the meantime, Shana has been looking
at other cats, and she's come upon one.
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:This lady, it was a out- She thinks
it was before it was an indoor cat,
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:it was a little, tiny outdoor cat
that keeps wanting to come inside.
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:So she took it inside last night,
and sh- she's gonna pay for the
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:Vetville to get him, uh, fixed.
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:It's a boy.
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:And so then we're gonna take him
and, and do the rest of it, so.
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:get him Monday
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:Dash: Well, you've already…
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:in the time since we talked
about it, a lot has happened
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:' Dash: Cause you hadn't found one yet
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:Beck: Yeah, no, she found one.
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:She's found like three, but I felt like
she had made a commitment to this lady, so
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:Dash: I- is it, did she,
did she get a tabby one?
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:Beck: Yeah, it's a, it's a gray and
black and white striped kinda calico
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:looking kinda without the brown
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:Dash: Mail?
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:Beck: Yes
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:Dash: Huh.
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:Well, be sure to show us.
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:Uh, we can't wait for pictures.
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:It's…
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:If it's a calico and a male, that's
a very rare genetic incidence
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:Beck: it without the brown.
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:Dash: Sabrina had…
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:Well, yeah, exactly, like
that cat Sabrina had.
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:Link Link actually came from Vanessa.
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:Link was Vanessa's cat first.
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:I, I think she was Vanessa's first,
you know, like you move out and you
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:get, like, your first pet as an adult,
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:That was Link for Vanessa, but then
yeah, Link was just a weird cat.
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:She, she was very peculiar,
had very strong personality.
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:She had a lot of needs, social needs.
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:Like she, she couldn't tolerate
a, a household or an environment
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:that was chaotic in any way.
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:Like she needed stability, and Vanessa had
roommates, who, like, were popular kids.
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:And so they would have, like,
house parties and stuff.
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:And as Link got older, and then Vanessa
met Dave, and, you know, he moved in,
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:and then life started to happen, right?
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:Then it was like they had a dog.
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:They inherited a cat from one of Dave's
I think elder relatives who passed.
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:And Link was just like, she
would not come out from under…
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:She wouldn't come out of the basement.
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:She hated her life.
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:And then they started having kids.
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:And so Sabrina had that one
cat, Joe, and she was, I think,
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:interested in a second cat.
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:And so we just kinda arranged
for Link to go and live with
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:Sabrina, and she was fine there.
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:Lived, I think she was
16 or 17 when she died
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:Beck: Oh.
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:I know Sabrina was very attached to her
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:Yeah, she, I mean,
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:Link
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:really leveled up
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:My Trance was a good boy too.
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:He died during my undergrad.
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:I got him in my first apartment
with my first girlfriend.
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:He was only eight or nine when
he passed, but he was a big boy.
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:He was like twice the size of the dogs
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:Dash: I, I think, uh, I think
obesity in cats can be a determinant
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:of, you know, their longevity,
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:just because of the way
their little kidneys are
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:Beck: I think he was also part,
like, a Norwegian Forest cat.
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:It had to be in his genes 'cause
he had the big tail and the
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:big face, and he was gorgeous.
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:He was absolutely gorgeous.
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:He wasn't as big as they get,
but he was pretty darn near.
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:I have a picture of him and Koda,
my little poodle laying next to each
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:other in a chair, and he's like three
times the size of Koda curled up
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:We should do a Cats of Queernecks
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:Dash: Oh, that would be so cool.
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:Yeah, we could do a 2027 calendar
for, like, the end of the year
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:All
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:Dash: Care
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:Beck: send us some pictures of your cats
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:Dash: Or pets,
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:It depends on how many we get.
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:Beck: I Yeah, I could fill
the calendar myself with pets,
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:Dash: We'll do-
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:Beck: we're opening it up to pets that
have, that are, uh, of years beyond
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:Dash: Yeah, we- let's, like,
limit it to cats this time.
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:But you know what?
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:If we get a bunch of emails
that are like, "How dare you?"
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:Uh, we'll, we'll do something
different next year.
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:The…
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:That's funny that you say that
because I have Canva again.
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:and so I'm back to, I'm back on my
bullshit of designing dumb Queerneck
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:stuff with company resources.
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:But there's calendar templates in there.
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:So yeah, we could do that pretty easy
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:I changed, I don't know if you saw, I
changed the artwork for the, the show.
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:I swapped it out for that
sticker design I made.
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:Beck: Oh.
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:Dash: Here, I'll show
you if you didn't see it
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:Beck: some of those stickers, so
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:Dash: Okay.
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:Beck: and I'll
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:Dash: Well, now that I have…
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:That was just the other day.
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:I have, I f- was able
to finish the design.
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:We can, we can order, we
could do another, uh…
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:There's s- several different
options we could make, but
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:yeah, that'd be fun I love…
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:Here, I've got mine on my, my
Queer, Queernecks notebook here.
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:I've got one of the sparkly ones.
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:The…
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:Beck: jealous.
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:I'm so
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:Dash: Yeah, I have some more.
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:I, I emailed you, or I emailed.
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:I mailed you half of the demo ones
I got, so I still have a quarter
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:of them that we could try again.
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:I just don't wanna send
them off into nowhere again
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:Beck: yeah, you're not the first
person to say that stuff has not
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:made it to me through the mail.
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:Dash: I think the mail is getting,
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:it's getting real erratic
in general in the US.
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:don't We live in a big complex and
it's just like a bay of, of mailboxes,
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:Dash: that doesn't help
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:Beck: people's mail before, and
I'm assuming the same thing has
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:happened to somebody else, and
maybe they've opened it up and
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:thought they were cool or something.
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:You know what I mean?
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:Dash: Did you see that thing I
posted about my fucking paycheck?
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:Beck: Y- ye- yeah, that you
can't get it c- c- cashed?
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:Dash: Yeah.
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:I, so all of this, like, onboarding thing
is weird because I work for the state now.
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:It's a state system, and so
they have to do this, like,
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:arduous credentialing process.
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:They're still not done credentialing.
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:I still don't know how much money I make.
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:Right now I'm getting, like, the
base rate, and then they're gonna
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:back pay me whenever they decide
how much I'm actually worth when…
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:I guess one person does credentialing
at this, this, there's two campuses
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:that are part of my system, and
so we're a month into the semester
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:and she's still not done with it.
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:But you can't get into the e-services
portal, which is the state employee
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:portal, until you have an employee ID,
which isn't until after your official
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:start date, but I started before my start
date because the official start date was
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:the start of the semester for faculty.
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:So I was getting paid before I had
an employee ID, so I couldn't log in
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:and set up my direct deposit, which
is the only reason this happened.
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:So if, as soon as I can get
my direct deposit, hopefully
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:this won't happen again.
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:But apparently this is what they
do if you don't agree to direct
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:deposit, is they send you an IOU
that you can't mobile deposit.
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:You can't…
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:No bank, uh, like, no bank's
mobile deposit will accept this
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:thing because it's not a check.
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:It's literally, it's called a warrant,
and I had to Google it, and it's
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:such a thing that the state, the
website has an FAQ page about this.
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:It was like, "Yeah, so your bank
has the right to not honor this
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:because it's not actually a check.
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:It's, Uh, I keep saying IOU like
it's a joke, but it really is.
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:A warrant is, is an IOU from a
federal or state government office.
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:A f- it's just from one
specific budget line.
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:So because it's not a check, it doesn't
have an ID number on it, and so the
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:bank is like, "I'm not cashing that.
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:What are you talking about?"
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:So I was like, "What do I do?"
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:And the FAQ says, you
know, if your bank won't…
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:A bank could do it if they, they have
to go into this government database
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:and look up a specific number that
corresponds to the government entity.
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:To do that, you have to go in,
a, a teller can't even do that.
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:You have to talk to, you have
to go into one of the offices
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:with the, the clear walls.
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:And my bank, I have an East Coast
bank, so there's not a physical
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:location anywhere in Minnesota.
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:So I was like, "All right,
what does that leave?"
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:And it leaves going in person to St.
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:Paul and handing the department
that wrote the thing, it, handing it
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:back to them and saying, "Can I have
some cash for this instead, please?"
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:So That's about a 50% c- check cashing
fee because the amount of money, like
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:the amount of gas it would take to get
there and do that, 'cause that, so even
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:if I didn't have to navigate the city
and, and parking and the time it would
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:take, that's a seven-hour round trip.
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:by like the state really does act like
it's the one that makes the case that
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:it's not a state, it's just the Twin
Cities and fucking corn, you know?
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:Like,
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:Beck: Right?
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:Dash: don't wanna see it that way,
but that's how it sees itself.
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:It's like if you live somewhere else
than the Twin Cities, then fuck you
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:Beck: Right?
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:Dash: Like, no wonder they're like this.
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:There's a meme that's something…
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:It was in respo- it was, like, the,
the bootlickers who live in the rural
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:part of the state in response to the
protests against ICE in the cities.
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:There was a meme that
was like, "Minnesota, not
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:Minneapolis," or something.
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:And so they're like, "We, you know,
we're bootlickers out here because we've
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:never actually faced any adversity."
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:It's like that dumbass I work with
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:Beck: How's that going?
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:Dash: Well, I haven't, I
haven't seen her since.
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:I think I also didn't tell that story.
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:But so my new job is great,
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:Like, 94% of my co-work- uh, everybody
I have met except for this one
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:person is excellent, cares a lot, is
welcoming, supportive, is generous.
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:They've all offered resources and
support to help me adjust to this
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:thing I've never done before.
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:Like, I was basically hired
because I have a big brain, not
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:because I know how to do this yet.
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:I've never taught asynchronous before.
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:And, and this woman even was
like that, too, until she
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:realized that I wasn't like her.
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:' Cause I think she saw me, and I th-
well, I, I'm pretty sure I'm right
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:about this, that she assumed that,
like, my redneck exterior contained
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:a fellow bootlicker, that, that I
was a secretly trapped Trumper who
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:couldn't, you know, come out in the,
the commie higher ed space or whatever.
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:And so I, I just broke her heart, I think.
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:And so she was rude as hell
to me on my very first day.
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:She called me a liar when I said…
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:I was…
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:We were talking…
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:We weren't even talking politics,
but we were talking about um,
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:first-generation college students and
how, you know, we're a community college.
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:So, you know, what, j- we were
talking about our students, right?
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:Which should be neutral territory.
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:This should be something
everybody can agree on.
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:I was talking about how this idea of
the college search is not something that
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:first-generation college students do.
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:You, you don't…
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:Maybe it's different now, but,
our generation, you went to
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:college if college came to you.
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:Like, it, the EKU recruiters came
to my high school and explained very
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:clearly the way the scholarships
worked, and I would never have gone
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:and gotten that information myself.
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:And I would never have thought
to because my assumption was
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:that college was out of reach.
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:And I got to the part about how
the military recruiters prey on
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:rural, isolated areas where they
know that students maybe have fewer
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:options cause there's not maybe
an economy or something there.
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:And she, she stopped me, and she goes,
"Well, I think if that were true, JD Vance
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:would have written it in Hillbilly Elegy."
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:And I said…
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:Well, at first I didn't say
anything, 'cause I was like, I
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:was really stunned, you know?
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:Like, I've heard a lot of shit.
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:Beck: Camera?
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:Dash: I've heard, I've heard s- what
I thought was the dumbest of the dumb
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:and the, and the meanest and whatever.
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:But there was, there was, this was such
a combination of condescending and mean
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:and rude and stupid And I was, so I was
like, " I, I don't know what to say.
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:I don't have a middle class
response to this, first of all."
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:You know?
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:Beck: Right
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:Dash: are fighting words that you just
said, so what I'm supposed to do is call
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:my sister to drag you by your bleached
ponytail out into the parking lot.
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:Like, that is my right now by law.
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:By the trailer park law, I'm now
entitled to do that because you called
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:me a liar And so I started, I was
like, "Do these people not know that?
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:Do they not know that you're not
supposed to just call somebody a liar?"
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:But yeah, she's, she's the one
weirdo, and I haven't seen her since.
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:And I didn't know how to respond,
like this is my first time
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:having protected speech at work.
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:In 16 years of working in higher
education, I've never had protected speech
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:before, 'cause I've always been staff.
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:Even when I was adjuncting,
I was also staff.
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:So I didn't know that I could have
simply said, like, "The next time you
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:say some shit like that to me will be
the last unmoderated thing you say."
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:Beck: Right
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:Dash: which is what I'll say next time
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:But I left though, 'cause I want-
just wanted to get away from her.
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:She wouldn't stop pushing me about
it, 'cause I was like, "I didn't read
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:Hillbilly Elegy, and I'm not going to."
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:And she, like, made me take her copy
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:Beck: Oh, wow
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:Dash: still sitting in my office.
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:And
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:Beck: burn it
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:Dash: well, you know, I did crack it open.
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:I read the first couple pages, and
it, it, it was what I expected, right?
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:Just coming in, it's not a fucking memoir.
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:Even if it had been true, it's
not written like a memoir.
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:It's written like a diatribe.
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:It's a harangue.
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:It's a polemic
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:Beck: He goes on for like 10 pages about
welfare at one point in the middle of it.
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:Like I, I wasn't even in grad school.
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:I hadn't even done, redone my undergrad at
that point when I read it, and even then
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:I knew it was fucking bullshit, you know?
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:Like that's before I had any education
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:Dash: Yeah, because, because we know
what it's- what the truth sounds like.
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:even if someb- so maybe let me rephrase.
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:We, we can tell…
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:It's easier to tell when somebody
is telling their version of the
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:truth than when they're trying to
convince you of something, when
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:they're trying to manipulate you.
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:He didn't utter a word of truth
in the, the pages I read anyway.
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:But the other disturbing thing that
I couldn't stop getting tripped
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:up on was her marginalia, like
the notes that she was taking.
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:It was clear that she was, like, eating it
up, and she was arranging it in categories
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:so that she could use it as justification.
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:She was using it as evidence for whatever.
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:"This is how these people are."
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:So I was like, "Ugh,
no, I'm not doing this."
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:But there's a woman on the other
side of me in my office who heard it
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:happen, and so I- she asked me, she
was like, "Were you just talking to,
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:And I was like, "Yeah, I, I just
said g- good morning to her,
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:and somehow we wound up there."
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:And she was like, "Okay.
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:J- you don't have to do that.
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:You don't have to talk to her.
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:You know, you don't have to
give her that amount of time.
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:Like, she's doing that on purpose.
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:She does that to everybody.
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:She wants to start fights."
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:So…
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:But apparently that woman told the
dean about it, and the dean came
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:to talk to me, and she was like,
"Do you want me to intervene?"
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:And I was like, "No.
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:What do you mean?
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:What would that even look like?"
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:Beck: Right?
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:Dash: Even with her though, it's,
it's just such a different environment
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:Boy, students have not changed
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:Beck: Nope except now they
use ChatGPT for everything
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:Dash: Yeah, there's quite a bit of that.
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:Beck: g- with grading and writing?
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:Dash: So I have, I'm, I'm mixed modal,
so I've got in-person English 101,
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:I've got fully asynchronous 101, and
then I've got 102, which is, you know,
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:the, uh, research-specific, course.
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:The, the in-person kids, for surprising-
like, they, they have not given
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:me very much, if, if any ChatGPT.
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:It's, was really surprising.
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:I think I have a suspicion
that it's because it's not
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:a victimless crime anymore.
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:They can see my face, right?
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:We ha- we have to see each other.
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:I can speak to them.
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:They can't really get away from me.
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:You know?
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:They can't just ignore
an email or whatever.
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:Uh, but the online ones,
they, I have read…
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:So, you know how ChatGPT, like, it can't
interpret, uh, literature or anything.
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:And
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:Beck: Right
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:Dash: them, I've got them reading Me Talk
Pretty One Day, and, and of course I did,
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:I asked, I don't think it was ChatGPT.
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:You know how there's AI
stuffed into everything?
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:I think it was Claude.
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:It's o- it's o- the one
that's in Microsoft.
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:I s- I said, I gave it my prompt,
and I said, "Yeah, write me a
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:response essay on this chapter."
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:And what it gave me, I was like, "Holy
shit, I'm gonna be able to s- pick this
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:out a mile away," because it's wrong.
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:It, it is absolutely wrong.
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:Even the plot summary's incorrect.
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:Which, that's crazy.
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:You're telling me it can't
summarize a plot from…
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:' Cause that book's gotta be online places.
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:So what it tries to do is glean
from Reddit mostly and Goodreads and
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:stuff, I think, what the book might
be about, and it hallucinates this
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:crazy thing about how Sedaris is
using humor to overcome a disability.
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:It doesn't mention his
homosexuality at all.
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:And so I was…
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:I got like paper after paper about how
Sedaris is using humor to, make himself
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like just, I don't know, just completely
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:wrong about what the book is about.
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:It's really weird.
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:And s- and it's…
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:I have to be careful because it's possible
the person could be that wrong too
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:Beck: Right.
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:I, you say that you, you
don't think they're using it.
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:I gave a final last semester that was
closed note but on the computer, and
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:they were opening ChatGPT and putting
the questions in there during the exam,
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:Dash: Yehaw
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:Beck: because I can see every time
they left the quiz or the, they call
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:them quizzes, not exams in, on online.
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:Every time they left the, the test
it showed me that they left the room.
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:So caught them and failed them
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:Dash: Yehaw
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:Beck: you, you can't,
you can't trust them.
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:Dash: Oh no
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:Beck: in the face while clicking on it
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:Dash: I know.
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:It's kinda wild.
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:The, the ones that I do, I'll put in
the feedback, like, "Okay, so this is,
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:uh, this is AI generated, but even if
it wasn't, here's why this paper fails."
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:Because I'm not fighting
with them about…
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:Like, because luckily, ChatGPT is stupid.
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:Generative AI
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:is stupid.
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:It can't write the assignments
I'm setting these students.
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:And I, I think they didn't
believe me when I told them that
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:Beck: When I was teaching English down,
uh, at home one of the assignments was
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:to take a favorite song and interpret the
song lyrics and write a paper about it.
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:I showed them, I took one of my favorite
songs, which is Lie in Our Graves by
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:Dave Matthews, and it was wildly off.
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:It just made up lyrics whole cloth like,
that aren't even in there, and that's
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:a widely available song, you know?
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:And I showed them how it totally just made
stuff up, and they were pretty by that,
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:you know, how bad and how wrong it was.
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:So I, I hope I at least got
through to those 20 students
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:Dash: Yeah, that's- I'm gonna have to
probably spend this weekend doing that
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:now that I know that they're doing it.
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:some of them would, would reply,
like, "I didn't, I didn't use any AI."
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:One of them tried to call me ableist,
which I kind of … I s- they didn't know
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:the word ableist, though, which was funny.
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:But they, they sent an … So
this one was egregious.
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:It wasn't just a copy and paste
certain elements from ChatGPT, which
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:a lot of them will do because it
doesn't feel like cheating to them
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:it was just a full-on four-page
essay written by some sort of AI.
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:Usually ChatGPT can't produce
that much text unless they
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:What they could've done was,
like, ask follow-up questions.
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:So, like, now talk about the major
themes, 'cause there was a lot of
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:repetition as well, and that's the only
thing ChatGPT can do is, is try to, it
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:can try to summarize the plot and it
can try to identify the major themes.
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:It's not gonna give you quotes.
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:It's not gonna be able to accurately
… It's not gonna be able to make a claim.
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:So, like, the one thing I need you
to do is make an interpretive claim.
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:That's a thesis, right?
534
:And Chap- it's, like, literally
incapable of doing that.
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:But so I, it was 100%, she didn't,
there was nothing human in it.
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:And so I failed her, and I was
like, you know, it's kind of a dead
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:giveaway that there's not a single
spelling or grammar or citation error.
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:This is flawless MLA
citation format, in-text,
539
:Beck: Right
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:Dash: cited, yet it's
not formatted correctly.
541
:It's formatted like it was
copy and pasted from ChatGPT.
542
:What happened there?
543
:You're, you're j- you know everything
about citation, but not formatting?
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:That's interesting.
545
:And so she emailed me and she was
like, "I didn't use any- I used
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:Speechify to read it back to me
so that I could check for errors."
547
:And I was like, "That is the
dumbest thing I've ever heard."
548
:Beck: The online university that I work
for, they allow use of AI, except they
549
:have to cite it, including a link to the
conversation in their, in their citations.
550
:Which is great if it works, but like
Copilot, if they use Copilot, it won't
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:let you see the individual conversations.
552
:It says they're restricted.
553
:But if you use ChatGPT, it
will show you the conversation.
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:So on what technology you're using,
it really changes how much control you
555
:have over seeing what they're doing.
556
:Dash: I just, I don't see
how that is a solution.
557
:Like, if, if you paid somebody to write
an essay for you That's not, like you're
558
:not, you're not getting off the hook
just because you showed me the receipt
559
:Beck: Right
560
:Dash: But I also understand that
institutions are really struggling
561
:to grapple with this issue
562
:Beck: Yehaw.
563
:' Cause
564
:prove it
565
:Dash: it's tough,
566
:Beck: it's like one of those things
when you see it, you know it, you know?
567
:Dash: Oh yeah
568
:Beck: AI is for the most
part very easy to pick out.
569
:You know, sometimes I think it flies under
the radar, especially when they paraphrase
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:and do some, some edits and changes to it.
571
:But the, it's bolded in the middle
or set up with a li- Uh, there's
572
:the list of three in all of them.
573
:There's a list of three things in every
ChatGPT response ever known to man.
574
:And there's some words that they use
like heartfelt and, and, and, and like,
575
:and what's another word that they use?
576
:Uh, heart- robust is another
577
:they use a lot.
578
:Dash: quietly.
579
:Yeah.
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:Beck: yeah
581
:Dash: Original.
582
:Yeah, I don't know.
583
:It, it sounds good to somebody who
doesn't know anything about writing,
584
:and that's the issue, you know?
585
:It
586
:If, if you don't know enough about writing
to tell the difference between good and
587
:bad writing, it seems like I'm up in
your shit over something stupid, right?
588
:'Cause you're like, "What?
589
:I was able to do the assignment.
590
:Obviously this is correct."
591
:And they're coming from an environment,
most of them, from high school, where
592
:just turning something in is enough.
593
:Like, that's all you have to do
594
:Beck: Right
595
:week who f- for the first time
in class had talked about Anita
596
:Hill and Clarence Thomas before.
597
:She said it was, like, her fourth time
learning about it, and I was like, "Wow."
598
:Dash: There at BGSU?
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:Beck: no as a, in high school."
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:Most
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:ever heard of this before."
602
:Dash: Yehaw
603
:Beck: was, I was really impressed by that.
604
:She said that she went to a,
a really progressive school
605
:district outside of Cleveland.
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:I was like, "I guess so,
607
:Dash: Yeah, sounds like it
608
:Beck: Yeah.
609
:'Cause that's one of my questions after
we learn all about that, why do you
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:think that's not taught in high school?
611
:You know, if, if, if voters start
at 18, shouldn't they come out at
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:18 understanding politics a little
and some of the history behind
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:the politics and things like that?
614
:And I would think, you know, the, the
Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas or the Brett
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:Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, I
think those would be things that you would
616
:wanna teach about sexual harassment, about
gender issues, about all of those things.
617
:Dash: Yehaw
618
:Beck: think…
619
:And a lot of the times their answer
is because people don't want,
620
:you know, underage kids talking
about sexually based things.
621
:And to which I say, that's
a huge problem, right?
622
:Because we should be talking to
kids about sex ed and, and bodily
623
:autonomy as young as five, you know?
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:I'm not s- when I s- when I say
sex ed for five years old, I'm
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:not talking, "Hey, five-year-old,
here's a penis and here's a vagina.
626
:You put them together
and have a baby," right?
627
:I'm saying you tell them that it's okay
if they don't wanna kiss Uncle Bob.
628
:They're allowed to say no.
629
:Dash: Yehaw
630
:Beck: suit parts, and that they're only
for them, and if anybody else touches
631
:them, they should tell Mommy, and these
are the right words for these parts.
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:So if I say s- if I'm five years
old and I say, "Grandpa touched my
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:cookie," I would have some context
for that i- if she actually said,
634
:"Grandpa touched my vagina," right?
635
:It, giving kids that knowledge is power.
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:Uh, there's so many kids that
are abused, that if you give them
637
:the language and tell them what's
right and wrong and you give them
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:examples of, of proper relationships,
then that's much better for them.
639
:So where I stand on that.
640
:Dash: Yeah.
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:Well, people also love to, like, wring
their hands and clutch their pearls about
642
:interpersonal relationships in gen- all
interpersonal relationships except for the
643
:ones that we're all forced to think about
all the time, which are the straight ones.
644
:For like, you know, people love to go
like, "Oh, every October I- you're gonna
645
:force me to think about the fact that
dudes fuck each other up the butt."
646
:And it's like, "What?
647
:Nope.
648
:Nobody's forcing you to think that."
649
:Beck: That's only if you only think of
gay people as in a sexual manner, and
650
:Dash: That's right
651
:Beck: to, to homose- to homosexuality
than there is just having sex.
652
:Like, like any other
relationship, you know?
653
:Dash: Yeah, there's, uh, like the
straight people at work who's like
654
:their whole personality is their kids.
655
:Great job, you fucked three times
656
:Beck: Right?
657
:Dash: Why do we have to talk about it?
658
:That's something that really blows my
mind, that people will sit around and
659
:talk to strangers about their kids
660
:Beck: Yeah.
661
:Well, I show people pictures
of my dogs, so I'm no better
662
:Dash: Well, good.
663
:You know?
664
:Give them a taste of their own medicine.
665
:Beck: Right
666
:Dash: Here's a splinter
I had removed a year ago.
667
:Isn't it great?
668
:Like, this, this means as much
to you as your kid means to me.
669
:And we're equally grossed out also.
670
:Oh, I guess we should say, like, we didn't
watch Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
671
:Beck: Oh yeah, that
didn't happen this week.
672
:I, it was just a crazy week.
673
:Like, it went by so fast for me
674
:Dash: Yeah.
675
:Well, it was a short week 'cause we had
the holiday in there, and I think that
676
:um, during the school year anyway, for
me, this year is just, just getting used
677
:to all this stuff, the grading and the
email and learning how to use this LMS
678
:You know, obviously we're g- you
know, we're still gonna record
679
:unless we decide we're gonna do
something, you know, kind of special,
680
:not a ton of prep goes into this
681
:Beck: What do you mean?
682
:I spend hours working on my weekly down.
683
:Dash: Well, I, I spent,
684
:Beck: don't
685
:Dash: I spent hours on this sponsor
today because I was so brain dead.
686
:I kept, like, coming up with ideas,
getting halfway through them, and
687
:being like, "No, that's stupid."
688
:Okay.
689
:Yeah, Zeke
690
:It's like
691
:Beck: Meow.
692
:Kitty, kitty, about getting a kitty.
693
:Its name currently is Ricky,
and we can't have that 'cause
694
:that was my first boyfriend,
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:Dash: Oh
696
:Beck: can't have a Ricky running around.
697
:My dad called him Hickey
698
:Dash: How old is it?
699
:Beck: Uh, we don't know,
but still a, a kitten-ish
700
:Dash: Oh.
701
:Uh, yeah, you can change the name
702
:Beck: So we'll find something.
703
:Uh, we always let them
tell us what their name is,
704
:Dash: Yehaw Yep
705
:Beck: was named after an Ewok.
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:She was, uh, Wicket's sister
707
:Dash: Wha- ha- wait, why do
you know so much about Ewoks?
708
:Beck: Because that's what
it, Wenda looked like.
709
:I mean, one of my friends, 'cause I
have lots of nerd friends, n- well,
710
:one of my nerd friends was like,
"She looks like blah, blah, blah."
711
:And I was like, "Okay."
712
:Ted,
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:Dash: Oh, you researched it?
714
:Is it, uh, fall weather there yet?
715
:Beck: It's, it's still in the,
uh, the 80 range around here.
716
:It's not too cold yet.
717
:Dash: It's currently 65 degrees.
718
:It started out around
50 to turn my fan off
719
:Beck: I'm sitting here covered up in
a blanket It's currently 77 degrees
720
:here The high of 79, a low of 65
721
:Dash: Yeah, we really did have like
722
:a three-week long summer here
723
:How's the All-American…
724
:It's not that called that anymore, is it?
725
:It's the, the women's
professional baseball.
726
:Y- yeah
727
:Beck: it's, they're in
the playoffs right now.
728
:I've been watching that, uh, just
about every night, trying to not
729
:drive Shana crazy with it, but you
know, watching as much as I can.
730
:Dash: Is your team winning?
731
:Beck: they are, they're the
number one team right now,
732
:Dash: Is it the queens?
733
:Beck: No, it's the Fire Bells
734
:Dash: Okay.
735
:All right.
736
:Beck: They've been my fa- favorite
because it's the only city I've
737
:been to, which is San Francisco.
738
:I've never been to LA,
Boston, or, or New York City.
739
:I've been to New York State,
but never New York City
740
:Dash: Oh, they have a cool little logo
741
:Beck: Yeah.
742
:But their merch sells out
so fast you can't get it I
743
:would for sure have a T-shirt.
744
:Aw, pet that kitty
745
:Dash: She's r- she's getting attention.
746
:Well, maybe she's not
getting enough attention
747
:Beck: Look at that poor baby.
748
:She's just throwing herself at you
749
:Dash: She is, yeah.
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:Each of them has, like, their
environment where they feel like
751
:they're in charge, and the, the
bedroom area is definitely hers.
752
:She loves bedtime
753
:Beck: Yeah.
754
:That's how Rue is.
755
:She's like um, Shana usually goes to bed
first because she has to get up so early.
756
:And when I push my table out, like to get
up to go to the bathroom or something,
757
:Rue, like jumps down and runs towards
the bedroom like, "Yes, let's go."
758
:She is ready for bed at any given hour
759
:Dash: Yeah, The, well, so the, I, I've
got four of them, and the three of them,
760
:Oscar, Felix, and Ziggy, they're a trio.
761
:Like, Ziggy's obsessed with Oscar.
762
:Felix is obsessed with Oscar.
763
:They're all together, and they're
typically always on the bed, and I think
764
:they're just waiting on me to go to bed.
765
:Uh, in the evening after their
dinner, Oscar will sit in my
766
:lap if I'm in front of the TV or
something, but lately I haven't been.
767
:Brisket's always downstairs by
himself He doesn't wanna sleep
768
:with him, and they would let him
769
:Beck: How do you feel about this big
beef shipment that came through that
770
:was denied by China or whatever?
771
:Do you know about that
772
:Dash: No, what are you talking about?
773
:Beck: There was a huge shipment
of beef, like millions of pounds.
774
:It was denied by Ch- it's
either China or Argentina, one
775
:Dash: Argentina
776
:Beck: going to China or China
going to Argen- one or the other.
777
:But they accepted it here, and
it's being bought by companies like
778
:McDonald's and Burger King and yeah, and
Kroger and Walmart are all buying it.
779
:So we have decided we're not gonna
buy meat from any of those places.
780
:We're gonna go to the butcher for a while
781
:Dash: August 7th, the US Department
of Agriculture Announced that
782
:Corte Argentino's USA LLC is
recalling a bunch of pounds of beef.
783
:Okay, so I don't think that's
what you're talking about
784
:Beck: No, this has just
been very recently.
785
:It's in the news Right now
786
:Dash: Okay.
787
:I'm just…
788
:What if I just put beef?
789
:News.
790
:Beef news
791
:Trump's beef import
792
:Beck: There you go.
793
:Dash: It's a 90-day suspension on tariffs.
794
:Why is there so much fuckery?
795
:Beck: Let me see if I can
find one of the articles.
796
:I've read a c- a couple of them
today Which is probably showing me
797
:more 'cause I'm interested in it
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:Dash: Mystery meat
799
:Beck: That sounds right.
800
:That was the, yeah, the
801
:Dash: Ah.
802
:Beck: if it was horse or
803
:Dash: Okay
804
:Beck: Why you shouldn't
get your news secondhand
805
:Dash: Apply a plan to bolster dwindling
US beef supply by waiving tariffs.
806
:Stop trying to get me to subscribe.
807
:Meat is coming from Argentina,
it's coming from Brazil, as well
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:as a couple of other places.
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:Trump promised the meat is very clean.
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:After American ranchers and lawmakers
expressed concern The beef would flood
811
:inspection stations and introduce
lower quality beef into the food supply
812
:Oh, so he announced this after
having a closed-door Oval Office
813
:meeting with Brazilian billionaire
Somebody Batista, who co-owns the
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:world's largest meatpacking company
815
:Beck: Oh, surprise, surprise
816
:Dash: Trump is literally
shitting himself to death.
817
:He is on death's doorstep, and he
still can only think about scheming
818
:Beck: Yeah
819
:Dash: Oh, okay, here it is.
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:Brazilian beef exporters who
usually are subjected to a 26.4%
821
:tariff recently found themselves with
a large backstock of beef after the
822
:EU announced it would no longer accept
imports from the country because
823
:it wasn't meeting safety standards.
824
:Okay
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:So now, so that's what we're buying.
826
:Okay, great.
827
:Yeah
828
:Beck: your shirt say m-
does your shirt say mangina?
829
:Dash: I don't know what it
says honestly, but king…
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:K-
831
:Beck: Kingin.
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:Dash: what does it say?
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:Beck: Kingin.
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:K-I-N-G-I-N.
835
:Dash: Kinging all day.
836
:Beck: I couldn't see the…
837
:Dash: Oh, I…
838
:Beck: That would, you
839
:Dash: S-
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:Beck: it.
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:Dash: So that, that reminds me of
this thought I had for, like, a
842
:dumb thing for us to do that doesn't
require a bunch of brain power.
843
:But, uh, I was talking to Vanessa
about the Harry Potter thing, right?
844
:And I sent her…
845
:There's a, a YouTuber that does,
like, pop culture analysis videos
846
:that are kind of- that are funny.
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:Their name is Queen Coke Francis.
848
:So they get in drag, and they make
a video about some sort of thing.
849
:And so their, their most recent one
was about the Harry Potter thing,
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:and basically, like, "Guys, I get it.
851
:We loved Potter, but we're adults
now, and this is harming people."
852
:So I sent it to Vanessa, and 'cause
she's struggling with, like, the kids
853
:love Harry Potter because all kids love
Harry Potter, and they- they're wanting
854
:to go do Harry Potter things because
the world is saturated with Harry Potter
855
:shit, and they want to buy, you know,
robes and toys and whatever, play sets.
856
:And so she hasn't been
letting them do that.
857
:They've been making their own,
and they're great at that.
858
:Kids have imaginations, so
they create their own games.
859
:They have these, like, off-brand
like, generic wizard robe Halloween
860
:costume things, and they just
play Harry Potter on their own.
861
:But, like, the obsession, she didn't
tell me why she's c- but she said she's
862
:thinking of stopping after this book
because of just h- the, the fervor that
863
:people get for this, especially kids their
a- this is crack to them, these books.
864
:They were a capitalist juggernaut
because of how addicted they are.
865
:So anyway, so she's like, "I'm, I'm…
866
:We're gonna stop with the Harry Potter."
867
:But it got me thinking about, like,
what to do, for those of us who maybe
868
:were into Harry Potter the first time
before we knew she was a monster if you
869
:still have Harry Potter stuff, you know?
870
:You can't…
871
:It's not like you can take the
money back from whatever evil
872
:organization she used it for.
873
:So I was thinking about, like, the
problematic fave, merch reclamation
874
:project, 'cause I have a bunch of
T-shirts from Buc-ee's that I really love.
875
:You know Buc-ee's this, uh,
876
:Beck: Yeah.
877
:Dash: yeah
878
:slash theme park,
879
:you know, I, w- when it first
came to, to Richmond, I loved it.
880
:It was so funny.
881
:You could always go
there and get good food.
882
:They had a little bit of everything.
883
:It was just crazy.
884
:It was insane.
885
:But the, the owner has now, like,
expressed and committed to some really,
886
:like, anti-worker ideologies and policies.
887
:And also, even if I wasn't, you
don't have to be some hardcore
888
:lefty socialist to care about that.
889
:Because what he's saying
890
:Beck: Right
891
:Dash: when he says shit like
that is, "I'm only going to build
892
:places where people don't have the
privilege of demanding better."
893
:I am…
894
:What h- what he means by, "I'm only
going to red states because they
895
:don't organize," is, "I'm only gonna
build places where people have to
896
:just take whatever I offer them."
897
:Because that's, that's what the
union busting did back in, back
898
:when the auto companies left
Detroit and they went down south.
899
:They did that because nobody
by then could, could organize.
900
:The union busting had taken such a toll.
901
:Anyway, that's a side plot.
902
:But I have these, like, just really
cute tank tops that I just don't
903
:wanna get rid of, and I, it's not
like I can undo the financial thing.
904
:It's not like I can,
like, take the money back.
905
:So I thought, like, I could um, s- like,
print, decorate them, or deface them
906
:somehow with, like, you know, pro-worker
s- like, slogans or whatever, ' there's
907
:so many things, like especially nostalgic
things, that you grow up later and they
908
:have become evil or horrible in some way
909
:Beck: Right.
910
:Yeah.
911
:to be a big Ellen
DeGeneres fan, for example
912
:Dash: Yeah, but I mean, I don't
know if Ellen really had merch.
913
:But I think I'm gonna do that.
914
:I need, I need some slogans to
print on these kinda gay tank tops
915
:I got from Buc-ee's, 'cause I'm
just, I'm not gonna give them up.
916
:I don't care that much about Harry
Potter anymore, but I think I probably
917
:do still have some stuff around here.
918
:I got the books at least
919
:Beck: Yeah.
920
:lost my Harry Potter books a
long time ago in one of my moves.
921
:I, I took a lot of stuff to, uh Is it
Half Price Books that'll buy your stuff?
922
:Dash: Yeah
923
:Beck: Or one of, one of those
companies that buy your media.
924
:I took, like, four big boxes
of stuff, of DVDs and books and
925
:all that, and sold it, and my
926
:Dash: I think Skeschel does too
927
:Beck: I've never heard of that one
928
:Dash: Oh, it's in, for a minute, it's
in Lexington, but It was probably
929
:there when you lived there, but
you didn't live there very long.
930
:Beck: was only there for…
931
:Lexington, I loved Lexington.
932
:It ha- it hated me.
933
:Dash: Sometimes it's like that.
934
:Beck: yeah, the whole universe was telling
me to go home, go back to Huntington
935
:Dash: That's kinda how this place
has treated me Like I move here
936
:and everything went to shit.
937
:Like seriously, nothing
about my life improved
938
:That's okay.
939
:It's in the past.
940
:Beck: a job?
941
:Dash: Yeah, if you want
942
:Beck: I do
943
:Dash: You, so, uh, there's a, this
is other thing that's very real,
944
:which is that if you stay there,
you're not gonna increase your pay.
945
:You have to move to get a pay increase.
946
:That's true.
947
:I, I don't know about industry to
industry, but in a lot of the, a lot
948
:of the people I know who work, who
especially come from, like, a background
949
:like ours and then go into a middle
class space, that's their reality.
950
:You have to wh- whole- leave a whole
company or a university or whatever
951
:to increase your pay in any way.
952
:So if they, even if they offer you,
they're just dangling carrots in
953
:front of you semester by semester.
954
:You have so much experience, you
don't have to settle for that anymore
955
:Beck: Let's hope.
956
:I can't go back to the phones.
957
:I cannot do it.
958
:I cannot do it.
959
:And I feel like that's the only
other skill I have besides teaching
960
:Dash: It's tough because you've
spent so much time developing in this
961
:one field . It is very hard to go
back to or, or just change course.
962
:Like even for me, just going from staff
to faculty was apparently a Herculean task
963
:I'll see if they'll hire you here though
964
:Beck: Okay.
965
:I'd move there
966
:Dash: The town the school is
in is actually kind of cute.
967
:It's, it's not bad at all.
968
:It's large.
969
:It has actual things in it.
970
:A bunch of parks and trails and stuff.
971
:It's not as, like, flat and
cornfield-y as it is out here.
972
:You know, you, like I say, I
live on the prairie, and I do
973
:technically, yet I don't see prairie.
974
:All I see is corn and soy farms
975
:Beck: That's all it is here too.
976
:Though I did find a
pumpkin patch this week
977
:Dash: Ooh, that's a good thought.
978
:That's a good thought.
979
:I need to, I need to look and see if…
980
:'Cause if you, you can get to
nature, you can get to a prairie.
981
:You have to drive half an
hour to an hour to do it.
982
:But people will do cute
things a- around here.
983
:You just can only do,
like, one thing a week
984
:Beck: Yeah.
985
:We like to drive around and look at
houses is our favorite thing to do
986
:Dash: Interesting.
987
:What, what kinds of things are, are,
are, do you notice when you do that?
988
:Beck: Um, The land, uh, how many
floors it is, how nice it is, the
989
:type of cars they have the entryway.
990
:Like, I like, I like, apparently I
like stuff with columns in the front of
991
:them if they're trying to look classic.
992
:Shana doesn't like that.
993
:She likes more mid-century
modern kind of aesthetic.
994
:We look for creepy houses,
just, just whatever.
995
:We, we just like looking at houses
996
:Dash: And that's not something
I've ever really done.
997
:But
998
:Beck: driving the back roads
999
:Dash: it sounds fun
:
00:43:52,489 --> 00:43:56,109
I have a friend who all she does
is just go out and drive around.
:
00:43:56,309 --> 00:44:00,309
I didn't realize it, and when I say all
she does, she actually has two jobs.
:
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:04,399
She teaches, she's a, a typical
butch lesbian stereotype.
:
00:44:04,399 --> 00:44:08,729
She teaches gym class for elementary
kids during the day, and then she
:
00:44:08,749 --> 00:44:12,498
works a f- uh, you know, a half a
shift at Walmart I don't know how
:
00:44:12,498 --> 00:44:15,568
she finds the time to do this, but
she literally, she doesn't go home.
:
00:44:15,578 --> 00:44:19,638
She just drives around all hours
of the night in her pickup truck.
:
00:44:19,838 --> 00:44:23,408
So much so that she, it's inevitable that
she's gonna get in a horrible accident.
:
00:44:23,408 --> 00:44:25,388
She's been hit by,
like, six drunk drivers.
:
00:44:25,798 --> 00:44:26,108
It's…
:
00:44:26,448 --> 00:44:27,028
Beck: Oh, wow
:
00:44:27,228 --> 00:44:30,348
Dash: Like, sh- she spends so much
of her time just driving around.
:
00:44:30,358 --> 00:44:32,988
It's all she wants to do, and
I, I kinda wanna know, like,
:
00:44:32,998 --> 00:44:34,598
are you looking at things?
:
00:44:34,878 --> 00:44:36,268
Are you just thinking?
:
00:44:36,468 --> 00:44:40,628
It's kind of a, the way she talks about
it, it's like this romantic cowboy
:
00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:44,778
type of thing, which, and I, I think
driving around is fun too, but the, I…
:
00:44:44,788 --> 00:44:47,508
Wait, I'm gonna have to, this thing's
gonna keep blowing on my ears until I
:
00:44:47,508 --> 00:44:49,428
take it off, so put something else on
:
00:44:49,628 --> 00:44:54,738
I got these really shitty
earphone or earbuds on a plane
:
00:44:54,938 --> 00:44:57,638
If I ever get paid, I
will get some nicer things
:
00:44:57,838 --> 00:44:58,498
Beck: Amen to that.
:
00:44:58,698 --> 00:45:01,008
I get paid, but then everything
I turn around, every time I turn
:
00:45:01,008 --> 00:45:02,648
around something costs $1,000
:
00:45:03,122 --> 00:45:03,582
Dash: No.
:
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,549
Well, let's see if I…
:
00:45:05,779 --> 00:45:08,149
I don't even remember what I wound
up doing, but I did eventually
:
00:45:08,149 --> 00:45:11,609
write a sponsor, so let's
hear from this week's sponsor.
:
00:45:22,915 --> 00:45:28,105
All right, this episode of Queernecks is
sponsored by the family desktop computer.
:
00:45:29,729 --> 00:45:33,149
just like how party line telephones
hung on way too long in the
:
00:45:33,149 --> 00:45:36,689
hollers of Appalachia, well
into the::
00:45:36,689 --> 00:45:41,009
still keeping that centralized
family computer tradition alive.
:
00:45:41,209 --> 00:45:45,599
It lived in a little desk in the corner of
the family room or whatever room you had
:
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,509
that wasn't where anyone slept or shat.
:
00:45:47,985 --> 00:45:52,165
The size of a donkey and surrounded by
a nest of cables nobody was allowed to
:
00:45:52,165 --> 00:45:54,575
touch, it was truly a Renaissance machine.
:
00:45:54,775 --> 00:45:59,779
It had the tax office, MapQuest,
WebMD, Yahoo Mail, Limewire,
:
00:45:59,779 --> 00:46:04,659
Napster, AOL Messenger, whatever
virus-mined pixel games mom was into.
:
00:46:04,859 --> 00:46:08,639
There were countless accounts and
no memory of passwords, so the rule
:
00:46:08,649 --> 00:46:10,869
was, by God, don't ever turn it off.
:
00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:12,909
Dad used it to look up truck parts.
:
00:46:12,919 --> 00:46:17,039
Some teenager or other used it to talk
to strangers on AOL Instant Messenger.
:
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,909
The youngest child was allowed
to play Solitaire, but only after
:
00:46:19,909 --> 00:46:21,289
everybody else was finished with it.
:
00:46:21,489 --> 00:46:25,729
It would take 15 minutes to wake up and
sounded like a small aircraft taking off.
:
00:46:26,209 --> 00:46:29,319
The internet may have come in
the mail back then, but modems
:
00:46:29,319 --> 00:46:32,259
were still screeching the song
of their people to get connected.
:
00:46:32,657 --> 00:46:36,427
Nobody got away with unobserved
browsing between all the racket.
:
00:46:36,627 --> 00:46:40,717
There was a printer beside it that
had been out of cyan since::
00:46:40,717 --> 00:46:43,537
but nobody was throwing it away
because we might need it, and one
:
00:46:43,537 --> 00:46:45,707
day we might find out what cyan is.
:
00:46:45,907 --> 00:46:50,467
And the family desktop had one sacred
rule: do not download anything.
:
00:46:50,667 --> 00:46:54,317
When you're your own tech support and
the thing costs more than the pickup, you
:
00:46:54,317 --> 00:46:56,537
are in preservation mode at all times.
:
00:46:56,907 --> 00:46:58,907
The family desktop
wasn't really a computer.
:
00:46:58,917 --> 00:47:02,577
It was the household's public information
portal, and everybody knew better than to
:
00:47:02,577 --> 00:47:06,137
do anything on it that they wouldn't want
the entire family discovering six months
:
00:47:06,137 --> 00:47:08,887
later or during discovery in a trial.
:
00:47:09,355 --> 00:47:13,185
To the family desktop, where we learned
a little risk was worth either a
:
00:47:13,185 --> 00:47:15,695
lot of reward or a legendary beating
:
00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:21,010
Man, one time David thought he was
gonna get away with calling a 900 number
:
00:47:21,417 --> 00:47:22,147
Beck: Oh, wow
:
00:47:22,347 --> 00:47:24,147
Dash: He was so fucking stupid sometimes
:
00:47:24,541 --> 00:47:25,641
Beck: What kind of 900 number?
:
00:47:25,641 --> 00:47:27,251
Was it a sex talk or a psychic?
:
00:47:27,557 --> 00:47:28,487
Dash: That was a sex talk one
:
00:47:29,052 --> 00:47:31,532
I did not know that the internet
liked to spill its secrets
:
00:47:32,274 --> 00:47:36,924
I think the first person I ever called
a girlfriend was somebody I met in a
:
00:47:36,924 --> 00:47:41,544
chat room, and then we, like, switched
over to AOL Instant Messenger, and
:
00:47:41,544 --> 00:47:45,494
then we would use phone cards, to
talk to, 'cause she lived in Scotland
:
00:47:45,822 --> 00:47:47,255
Beck: Wow That's cool
:
00:47:47,455 --> 00:47:47,905
Dash: Very random.
:
00:47:47,915 --> 00:47:50,115
Did you have any internet
boyfriends or girlfriends?
:
00:47:50,646 --> 00:47:54,046
Beck: That's where I met all of my gay
friends in Huntington was on the internet.
:
00:47:54,396 --> 00:47:57,856
I was much better with that than I was,
like, going to the bar and meeting people.
:
00:47:58,146 --> 00:48:02,075
And a girl that I met on the internet
through AIM um, is the person who I
:
00:48:02,075 --> 00:48:04,835
met Shana from, uh, weirdly enough.
:
00:48:04,985 --> 00:48:06,185
So that worked out.
:
00:48:06,415 --> 00:48:07,875
There was a girl that I dated.
:
00:48:08,015 --> 00:48:08,475
I, I…
:
00:48:08,825 --> 00:48:09,935
One girl maybe.
:
00:48:09,985 --> 00:48:10,935
That's, that's about it.
:
00:48:10,935 --> 00:48:11,505
I didn't…
:
00:48:11,885 --> 00:48:12,295
I don't know.
:
00:48:12,295 --> 00:48:12,965
I didn't…
:
00:48:13,165 --> 00:48:15,555
I, I pretend like I was
a big whore, but I wasn't
:
00:48:15,755 --> 00:48:16,705
Dash: I don't know if I was or not.
:
00:48:16,825 --> 00:48:21,905
I mean, I, I kinda was in college for
a while, but high school, I mean it-
:
00:48:21,975 --> 00:48:24,675
Beck: I have been together
since::
00:48:24,931 --> 00:48:25,957
Dash: Yehaw
:
00:48:25,957 --> 00:48:27,247
Beck: not a lot of chances.
:
00:48:27,247 --> 00:48:29,637
We did, like I've, I've never
been on a dating app before.
:
00:48:29,637 --> 00:48:30,837
I have no idea how they work
:
00:48:31,037 --> 00:48:32,317
Dash: They don't anymore.
:
00:48:32,397 --> 00:48:37,557
They u- so, like, I have been on them,
like, at certain points in my life.
:
00:48:37,607 --> 00:48:39,477
Mostly I make friends on them.
:
00:48:39,677 --> 00:48:42,977
It's kinda like, so a lot of
those apps, y- you can do that.
:
00:48:42,977 --> 00:48:43,877
You can just make friends.
:
00:48:43,877 --> 00:48:47,807
It's sort of like how there are all
kinds of creators on OnlyFans, but
:
00:48:47,807 --> 00:48:49,357
everybody only knows it for the porn.
:
00:48:49,557 --> 00:48:54,157
So I, I was on it there in Bowling
Green and made a couple friends and
:
00:48:54,157 --> 00:48:59,477
then dated some people from it, and I
was on it for, I can't remember, some
:
00:48:59,477 --> 00:49:01,147
other time that I had downloaded it.
:
00:49:01,347 --> 00:49:05,317
But, but, uh, lately I had
decided, like, there's gotta be
:
00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:06,607
some queer people around here.
:
00:49:06,807 --> 00:49:08,107
And I don't know about lately.
:
00:49:08,107 --> 00:49:10,687
It was probably shortly after I
moved here, maybe like 18 months ago.
:
00:49:10,947 --> 00:49:13,437
So I'd started, like,
looking for apps to download.
:
00:49:13,637 --> 00:49:15,047
You can't use them anymore.
:
00:49:15,047 --> 00:49:15,227
You…
:
00:49:15,417 --> 00:49:18,907
Like, first of all, you have to have
a paid subscription to use them.
:
00:49:19,197 --> 00:49:20,597
There's no free version anymore.
:
00:49:21,057 --> 00:49:22,567
You can't speak to anybody.
:
00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:26,317
You just have to, like, trade hearts
and likes back and forth, and if you
:
00:49:26,317 --> 00:49:28,167
match, then you can talk to people.
:
00:49:28,187 --> 00:49:32,937
But that, what that means is that you
have to spend all your time on there just
:
00:49:32,947 --> 00:49:37,587
browsing and swiping, hoping that you
swipe at the same time as another person.
:
00:49:37,737 --> 00:49:41,987
Like, technically it doesn't expire, but
they're really just, like, trying to…
:
00:49:41,997 --> 00:49:46,467
It's, they're just another
vehicle for ads So not anymore
:
00:49:46,477 --> 00:49:47,857
can you meet people that way.
:
00:49:47,957 --> 00:49:48,317
Beck: Yeah
:
00:49:48,517 --> 00:49:50,297
Dash: I don't think people do meet anymore
:
00:49:50,497 --> 00:49:54,577
Let's go back to communicating via
books in the back of the sex shop
:
00:49:59,777 --> 00:50:01,617
Beck: Well, I guess
that's actually not true.
:
00:50:01,777 --> 00:50:04,267
Uh, right before Shana and I
started dating and I worked at
:
00:50:04,267 --> 00:50:08,777
the photography studio there was
a website called Her She Kisses.
:
00:50:08,981 --> 00:50:09,191
Dash: Yeah.
:
00:50:09,237 --> 00:50:10,817
Beck: Like her, sh- yeah, you get it.
:
00:50:11,107 --> 00:50:14,357
And I put up, like, a little,
like, profile or whatever.
:
00:50:14,567 --> 00:50:15,477
I did the free version.
:
00:50:15,477 --> 00:50:19,067
I didn't pay anything, and somebody,
this woman I can't even remember her
:
00:50:19,067 --> 00:50:23,477
name now she saw the commercial that I
did for the studio, 'cause I was in a
:
00:50:23,477 --> 00:50:25,217
local commercial at the same time, too.
:
00:50:25,527 --> 00:50:29,117
Now, you have to remember this is when I
was thin, had cute hair, like was wearing
:
00:50:29,586 --> 00:50:31,146
Dash: Is this the woman
that got obsessed with you?
:
00:50:31,419 --> 00:50:35,129
Beck: well, she w- I think she found
out, realized my name was Becky,
:
00:50:35,129 --> 00:50:39,759
and her ex-girlfriend's name was
Becky, and she was trying to, like,
:
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:41,559
make her jealous or something.
:
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:42,829
I don't know, but it was weird.
:
00:50:43,059 --> 00:50:45,609
She told a bunch of people that
we had sex when we never did.
:
00:50:45,979 --> 00:50:48,809
I found that out 'cause we had a mutual
friend, and she's like, "I can't believe
:
00:50:48,809 --> 00:50:50,369
you had sex with," whatever her name was.
:
00:50:50,369 --> 00:50:51,649
And I was like, "I did not."
:
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:52,599
You know?
:
00:50:52,799 --> 00:50:53,599
N- no, thank you.
:
00:50:53,619 --> 00:50:54,819
No, ma'am, I did not.
:
00:50:55,249 --> 00:50:55,939
That was my ass.
:
00:50:55,969 --> 00:50:58,209
That w- that whole thing was
a mess, and then I found out
:
00:50:58,209 --> 00:51:01,579
about the Becky connection and
was like, "That's really weird."
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last I heard, she had gone
and married some man, so
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one experience, but there was no
swiping left or right back then, so
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00:51:08,896 --> 00:51:09,066
Dash: No,
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00:51:09,114 --> 00:51:09,724
Beck: would've been probably
:
00:51:10,685 --> 00:51:12,915
Dash: they weren't
phones really that, that
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00:51:13,115 --> 00:51:13,595
Beck: Yeah
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00:51:13,795 --> 00:51:19,365
Dash: I do remember, uh, Craigslist
dating, which was mostly sex work.
:
00:51:19,545 --> 00:51:22,105
So it was like you weren't
gonna really find…
:
00:51:22,115 --> 00:51:24,975
It was mostly just sex
workers talking to each other.
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00:51:25,465 --> 00:51:25,975
Not really.
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00:51:25,975 --> 00:51:28,005
Like, they, they didn't talk to
each other, but y- they would,
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00:51:28,005 --> 00:51:29,195
like, meet their clients there.
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00:51:29,645 --> 00:51:31,825
So that wasn't really dating, but still.
:
00:51:31,865 --> 00:51:33,815
Some people did, like with
the missed connections thing
:
00:51:34,015 --> 00:51:35,375
I watched a movie…
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00:51:35,575 --> 00:51:39,325
Well, I've watched a lot of movies since
we recorded last, but the, there's a
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00:51:39,335 --> 00:51:43,845
movie called The Invite that came out
recently with, uh, Olivia Wilde, Seth
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00:51:43,865 --> 00:51:49,575
Rogen, Ed Norton, and Penelope Cruz,
which is an eclectic cast, right?
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00:51:49,615 --> 00:51:54,535
Like, that is, even if the mo- if
the premise wasn't intriguing and
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00:51:54,535 --> 00:51:59,195
the execution w- wasn't marvelous,
that cast would get my attention.
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00:51:59,395 --> 00:52:01,225
Like, what are these four doing together?
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00:52:01,793 --> 00:52:05,233
And then I really appreciate
Olivia Wilde as a director.
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00:52:05,253 --> 00:52:09,193
I think that, like, sh- more and
more she distinguishes herself
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with every film she puts out.
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00:52:11,173 --> 00:52:15,323
But it's, the premise is these, uh,
it's this one, this couple, Olivia
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00:52:15,323 --> 00:52:20,320
Wilde and Seth Rogen, who make a really
interesting couple together, who are…
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00:52:20,670 --> 00:52:22,130
They're sort of falling out of love.
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00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,020
They have a lot of conflict and a
lot of resentment around who the,
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00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:30,100
uh, who, who they feel they've
become in the relationship.
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00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:35,500
And then, uh, Ed Norton and Penelope
Cruz are this kind of like sophisticated
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00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:41,810
and slick, but also like, you know,
desirable couple, and they come down and
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00:52:41,810 --> 00:52:43,470
invite them to have group sex basically.
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00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:48,267
This is the premise of the whole movie,
and it all takes place just in their
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00:52:48,287 --> 00:52:51,017
apartment, just in this one apartment,
and it's only the four of them.
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00:52:51,467 --> 00:52:51,767
It's…
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00:52:51,797 --> 00:52:56,927
It feels like those old Hitchcock
movies that all took place in one
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00:52:56,927 --> 00:53:03,101
location, and the characters really
just balloon into these big, full
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00:53:03,101 --> 00:53:07,351
narratives of people through,
over the course of the, the story.
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00:53:07,551 --> 00:53:08,701
I really loved it.
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00:53:08,841 --> 00:53:09,571
I thought it was great.
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00:53:09,731 --> 00:53:13,421
And Olivia Wilde, like, she
has this eye as a director.
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00:53:13,511 --> 00:53:17,331
But it got me thinking though, like,
you know, we, we, we talk about auteurs
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00:53:17,351 --> 00:53:19,081
in film, and they're always men.
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00:53:19,281 --> 00:53:23,161
It's not a surprise that, you know,
uh, cinema, like all everything
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00:53:23,161 --> 00:53:27,491
else in our society, is patriarchal
or male-centric, but even just the
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00:53:27,491 --> 00:53:31,301
concept of auteur, there is no, like,
there's not a feminine version of it.
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00:53:31,501 --> 00:53:34,791
Not even that, like, s- y- you, I wouldn't
even know how to make the case that Olivia
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00:53:34,791 --> 00:53:39,261
Wilde is an auteur because auteur means
something specific to the male gaze.
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00:53:39,461 --> 00:53:43,991
So we haven't created the possibility
yet of a feminine version of
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00:53:44,011 --> 00:53:46,951
auteur, and I think, I think
about that a lot all the time.
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00:53:46,951 --> 00:53:49,271
Like, I've constantly gone back
to that idea ever since I started
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00:53:49,271 --> 00:53:51,051
learning about, like, film studies.
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00:53:51,251 --> 00:53:55,911
But with her, there's always these,
like, smear campaigns and stuff
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00:53:55,921 --> 00:53:57,831
for every film that she's made.
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00:53:58,251 --> 00:53:59,981
So the first one she made was Booksmart.
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Did you see it?
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00:54:01,071 --> 00:54:01,441
Beck: No
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00:54:01,565 --> 00:54:01,775
Dash: It…
:
00:54:01,835 --> 00:54:02,745
You would like it.
:
00:54:02,755 --> 00:54:03,905
It's very good.
:
00:54:03,905 --> 00:54:10,005
It's, it's a raunchy, queer, teen, uh,
you know, like, Dazed and Confused type
:
00:54:10,075 --> 00:54:14,115
going, you know, coming-of-age type of
thing, last party of the school year.
:
00:54:14,585 --> 00:54:19,375
And everybody kept comparing it to
Superbad, which I guess is fair.
:
00:54:19,775 --> 00:54:22,605
Well, no, it's not fair because
like I just said, there's a
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00:54:22,815 --> 00:54:24,825
ton of versions of that film.
:
00:54:24,825 --> 00:54:26,135
That genre is vast.
:
00:54:26,135 --> 00:54:27,755
They could've compared it
to all kinds of things.
:
00:54:28,095 --> 00:54:30,695
I think Dazed and Confused
would be a more apt comparison.
:
00:54:30,895 --> 00:54:33,885
And so they reduced-- They kept
calling it the, the lesbian Superbad.
:
00:54:34,308 --> 00:54:37,268
P- like, people kept saying, like, "Oh,
yeah, it's just the lesbian Superbad."
:
00:54:37,358 --> 00:54:39,218
It's n- it wasn't like Superbad at all.
:
00:54:39,258 --> 00:54:42,988
Superbad was fine, but,
like, s- Booksmart was…
:
00:54:43,398 --> 00:54:46,068
It was about this whole community of kids.
:
00:54:46,148 --> 00:54:48,978
Like, it was about, like,
what we do to young people.
:
00:54:49,018 --> 00:54:50,178
It was just about so much more.
:
00:54:50,378 --> 00:54:54,928
And then she made that Don't Worry
Darling movie with, uh, Harry
:
00:54:54,928 --> 00:54:57,571
Styles and Florence Pugh, and
:
00:54:57,609 --> 00:54:58,369
Beck: to watch list
:
00:54:58,591 --> 00:54:59,271
Dash: very good.
:
00:54:59,371 --> 00:55:00,251
I really liked it.
:
00:55:00,451 --> 00:55:05,491
Uh, but I almost didn't watch it because
the smear campaign was so influential.
:
00:55:05,521 --> 00:55:06,281
Like, and it's…
:
00:55:06,321 --> 00:55:07,871
A- now I can't even
remember what it was about.
:
00:55:07,871 --> 00:55:11,451
It was something to do with,
like, an affair and, uh, casting
:
00:55:11,461 --> 00:55:13,941
drama, which isn't within…
:
00:55:14,201 --> 00:55:17,381
And somehow this all got laid at
her feet or associated with her.
:
00:55:17,501 --> 00:55:23,281
But it actually was just a f- fabulous
movie with this incredible, like, feminist
:
00:55:23,331 --> 00:55:28,591
messaging and exploration of even, like,
a treatment of incel culture that was
:
00:55:28,601 --> 00:55:30,751
really compassionate and interesting.
:
00:55:30,751 --> 00:55:32,831
Like, it was, it was masculinity theory.
:
00:55:33,111 --> 00:55:34,191
So, so smart.
:
00:55:34,391 --> 00:55:38,251
And then the invite, the way that,
like, she invokes this, like, this
:
00:55:38,281 --> 00:55:40,101
pressure in a relationship, it's…
:
00:55:40,131 --> 00:55:43,561
I just don't think we make movies like
that anymore, and I think she's doing
:
00:55:43,621 --> 00:55:45,961
interesting things, and nobody ever…
:
00:55:46,231 --> 00:55:48,531
It's, like, I, I think
I would even feel…
:
00:55:48,561 --> 00:55:51,991
I'm, I'm gonna feel, like, embarrassed
to be talking like this about somebody
:
00:55:51,991 --> 00:55:55,561
who's seen as so normal as Olivia
Wilde, as though she's this fabulous
:
00:55:55,561 --> 00:55:58,111
director, 'cause we're just not
supposed to talk about women this way.
:
00:55:58,261 --> 00:56:00,561
When is the last time somebody
gushed over a female director?
:
00:56:00,761 --> 00:56:01,111
Beck: Right?
:
00:56:01,311 --> 00:56:03,281
Dash: Can't think of, uh, any.
:
00:56:03,341 --> 00:56:05,691
And a lot of times people will go like,
"Well, we just don't, you know, women
:
00:56:05,691 --> 00:56:07,841
don't get to direct as many movies."
:
00:56:08,121 --> 00:56:12,677
Sure, that's true too It doesn't mean
none of them do , and it doesn't mean
:
00:56:12,967 --> 00:56:15,917
that there aren't plenty of women
who have directed multiple films that
:
00:56:15,917 --> 00:56:17,677
are excellent, and she's one of them.
:
00:56:18,127 --> 00:56:21,107
So I'm determined to bring,
to make autress a thing or
:
00:56:21,107 --> 00:56:22,097
whatever we would call it
:
00:56:22,297 --> 00:56:22,657
Beck: Right
:
00:56:23,174 --> 00:56:24,314
Dash: Penelope Cruz is so hot
:
00:56:24,514 --> 00:56:25,294
Beck: Oh, I agree.
:
00:56:25,604 --> 00:56:27,564
Do you know who Hannah Waddingham
:
00:56:27,726 --> 00:56:28,266
Dash: Yes.
:
00:56:28,384 --> 00:56:29,004
Beck: Have you watched…
:
00:56:29,484 --> 00:56:30,954
She is gorgeous.
:
00:56:30,974 --> 00:56:33,984
She is not my type at
all, but I am like, damn.
:
00:56:34,324 --> 00:56:36,054
She is absolutely beautiful.
:
00:56:36,064 --> 00:56:37,314
Have you watched Ted Lasso?
:
00:56:37,340 --> 00:56:37,650
Dash: Yeah.
:
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,120
I, well, I watched the
first season and a half.
:
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,450
I, I, I think there's four now, right?
:
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,150
Beck: Yeah.
:
00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:43,450
Dash: Yeah
:
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:45,330
Beck: we're caught up to current events.
:
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:47,260
But she is just stunning.
:
00:56:47,566 --> 00:56:48,506
Dash: Where are you getting it?
:
00:56:48,556 --> 00:56:52,206
Are you, are you stealing it from
somewhere or are you actually…
:
00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:53,190
Beck: f- we paid for
:
00:56:53,306 --> 00:56:53,996
Dash: You pay for it?
:
00:56:53,996 --> 00:56:54,356
Okay.
:
00:56:54,446 --> 00:56:55,496
I, I was thinking,
:
00:56:55,860 --> 00:56:56,040
Beck: yeah
:
00:56:56,226 --> 00:56:57,766
Dash: gonna have to do that too probably
:
00:56:57,966 --> 00:56:58,386
Beck: Yeah
:
00:56:58,462 --> 00:56:59,662
Dash: 'cause there's a
couple things on there.
:
00:56:59,662 --> 00:57:01,532
I would like to also watch Widow's Bay.
:
00:57:01,982 --> 00:57:05,952
I've heard great things about it, and
I liked that guy, that, that actor.
:
00:57:05,952 --> 00:57:09,122
He was in The Beast in Me
Hannah Waddingham played…
:
00:57:09,122 --> 00:57:12,752
a lesbian in s- uh, Sex
Education, I'm pretty sure.
:
00:57:12,952 --> 00:57:14,112
What's the name of the show?
:
00:57:14,312 --> 00:57:17,312
Like she, she's like this
high, high-pressure mo-
:
00:57:17,402 --> 00:57:18,692
like a sports mom, right?
:
00:57:18,712 --> 00:57:20,902
Her son is very, like she
wants him to be really, really
:
00:57:20,902 --> 00:57:22,912
competitive in, I think, swimming.
:
00:57:22,912 --> 00:57:24,162
Well, probably all sports.
:
00:57:24,362 --> 00:57:27,462
So she's, she's funny and also
kind of scary in that Did you know,
:
00:57:27,482 --> 00:57:29,882
well, of course you know because
you've watched Ted Lasso, she's
:
00:57:29,882 --> 00:57:31,182
like a very accomplished singer
:
00:57:31,555 --> 00:57:33,295
Beck: Oh yeah I have Googled her rightly
:
00:57:33,495 --> 00:57:35,815
Dash: Oh, well, did you bring
a noun of Appalachian interest?
:
00:57:36,015 --> 00:57:39,145
Beck: I did an interesting
one this week, in my opinion.
:
00:57:44,245 --> 00:57:48,115
This week's Noun of Appalachian Interest
is the Greenbrier Ghost, because
:
00:57:48,115 --> 00:57:52,215
apparently in West Virginia, dying does
not get you out of a court appearance.
:
00:57:52,695 --> 00:57:58,135
As the story goes anyway, in:woman named Zona Heaster Shue was found
:
00:57:58,135 --> 00:57:59,945
dead in her home in Greenbrier County.
:
00:58:00,405 --> 00:58:03,705
Her husband, Edward, kept the doctor
from properly examining her neck.
:
00:58:03,905 --> 00:58:07,635
Her death was initially ruled
as natural, but Zona's mother,
:
00:58:07,665 --> 00:58:09,225
Mary Jane, wasn't buying it.
:
00:58:09,265 --> 00:58:11,595
She hadn't liked Edward
before the wedding either.
:
00:58:11,815 --> 00:58:14,205
Some mothers need the time
to warm up to the son-in-law.
:
00:58:14,415 --> 00:58:15,935
This one needed a prosecutor.
:
00:58:16,410 --> 00:58:19,980
Then Mary Jane said that Zona
started appearing to her at night.
:
00:58:20,270 --> 00:58:22,980
According to her account, her
daughter's spirit told her that Edward
:
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:24,480
had killed her by breaking her neck.
:
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:27,460
Many ghosts apparently settle
for rattling a cabinet.
:
00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:29,620
This one had information
for the authorities.
:
00:58:30,010 --> 00:58:32,330
Mary Jane took her
story to the prosecutor.
:
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:36,050
He investigated, learned about the
incomplete examination, and had Zona's
:
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,365
body dug up, and an autopsy found a broken
neck and evidence of a strangulation.
:
00:58:40,755 --> 00:58:44,285
Edward was tried, convicted of murder,
and sentenced to life in prison.
:
00:58:44,585 --> 00:58:48,355
Mary Jane's account of the ghostly
visits even came up in her testimony.
:
00:58:48,695 --> 00:58:52,385
Now, before anyone goes and starts
hiring a medium instead of a lawyer,
:
00:58:52,615 --> 00:58:54,535
the injuries were physical evidence.
:
00:58:54,535 --> 00:58:56,295
The ghost story was Mary Jane's account.
:
00:58:56,325 --> 00:58:57,815
Those are two different things.
:
00:58:58,195 --> 00:59:02,075
But West Virginia commemorated the
case with a roadside marker crediting a
:
00:59:02,075 --> 00:59:03,925
ghost with helping convict a murderer.
:
00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:06,915
Imagine pulling over for a little
local history and finding a
:
00:59:06,915 --> 00:59:09,382
supernatural episode of Dateline.
:
00:59:09,882 --> 00:59:13,362
Whether you believe Zona came back
or her mother simply refused to let
:
00:59:13,362 --> 00:59:17,112
the case rest, Mary Jane kept asking
questions until somebody listened,
:
00:59:17,472 --> 00:59:20,422
and if I ever become a ghost, I
hope that I'm that determined.
:
00:59:20,682 --> 00:59:24,012
I'll probably spend six months trying to
remember who I came upstairs to haunt,
:
00:59:24,012 --> 00:59:27,782
but that's another story, and that's
this week's Noun of Appalachian Interest.
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00:59:28,892 --> 00:59:29,632
Dash: Oh.
:
00:59:29,972 --> 00:59:31,852
Oh, there's books written
about it and everything.
:
00:59:32,022 --> 00:59:33,962
Oh, there was an episode
of Drunk History about it
:
00:59:34,443 --> 00:59:34,923
Beck: Oh, cool
:
00:59:35,123 --> 00:59:37,573
Dash: Episode, season six, episode nine
:
00:59:37,773 --> 00:59:40,243
I think there's a kid who likes to…
:
00:59:40,303 --> 00:59:44,973
He makes those, like, compilation videos
of stories where he plays, like, Minecraft
:
00:59:44,973 --> 00:59:50,883
and then just talks about stuff, and he
is from North Carolina, and he did, he
:
00:59:50,893 --> 00:59:52,743
did one on the Greenbrier Ghost as well.
:
00:59:52,753 --> 00:59:54,353
Well, there's nothing on this webpage.
:
00:59:54,837 --> 00:59:56,157
Please tell me some information
:
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:57,620
Okay, here it is
:
00:59:57,820 --> 00:59:58,470
This is Paramount+.
:
00:59:58,870 --> 01:00:01,460
Can we s- we can s- watch these?
:
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,260
You can watch some of these
without having to subscribe
:
01:00:03,857 --> 01:00:04,847
Beck: I have Paramount Plus
:
01:00:05,047 --> 01:00:07,527
Dash: I got rid of mine because
they're just so fucking crooked
:
01:00:07,727 --> 01:00:09,487
Beck: Yeah, I went to do it
and it was like, "How about
:
01:00:09,487 --> 01:00:10,867
$299 a month for three months?"
:
01:00:10,867 --> 01:00:11,707
And I was like, "Shit.
:
01:00:12,030 --> 01:00:12,490
Dash: Amy.
:
01:00:12,883 --> 01:00:13,643
Goddamn it
:
01:00:13,843 --> 01:00:14,643
Let's see if I can find…
:
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,009
Beck: do like NCIS.
:
01:00:16,179 --> 01:00:18,949
NCS is probably my, NCIS is
probably my favorite TV show,
:
01:00:19,249 --> 01:00:20,529
which is very odd, I think.
:
01:00:20,529 --> 01:00:23,379
I don't seem like the cop
procedural kind of person.
:
01:00:23,699 --> 01:00:26,059
But they're good mysteries
is which I like, why I like
:
01:00:26,271 --> 01:00:27,751
Dash: I love a procedural.
:
01:00:27,951 --> 01:00:28,451
Beck: Yeah.
:
01:00:29,111 --> 01:00:29,201
I…
:
01:00:29,201 --> 01:00:29,681
watch FBI.
:
01:00:30,289 --> 01:00:34,479
Dash: Fuck cops and everything,
but, like, I like a mystery.
:
01:00:34,479 --> 01:00:36,959
I, I, I like the, the deductive reasoning.
:
01:00:36,959 --> 01:00:39,529
I like the emphasis on credible evidence.
:
01:00:39,549 --> 01:00:42,009
It's, they're very dorky things
:
01:00:42,209 --> 01:00:43,679
Beck: Yeah, I agree
:
01:00:43,879 --> 01:00:45,339
Dash: Are you gonna watch anything…
:
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:47,599
You gonna watch spooky
movies this Halloween?
:
01:00:48,089 --> 01:00:49,749
I get you to watch anything spooky?
:
01:00:49,949 --> 01:00:51,039
Beck: I, I will for you.
:
01:00:51,049 --> 01:00:51,849
How about we'll say that?
:
01:00:51,849 --> 01:00:52,899
I'll watch one for you.
:
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:54,629
I'll let you pick one out for me.
:
01:00:54,649 --> 01:00:55,139
Dash: All right
:
01:00:55,409 --> 01:00:58,209
Beck: we d- I mean, I mean,
Casper is about as haunted
:
01:00:58,209 --> 01:00:59,619
as I usually get around here.
:
01:01:00,049 --> 01:01:01,829
I'm just, it's just not my thing.
:
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:04,449
But I will, I would t- I,
I will trust your opinion.
:
01:01:04,749 --> 01:01:07,699
I will trust your picking skills,
and I will let you pick one for us to
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Dash: Oh, shit.
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Okay.
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01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:12,364
I guess we should probably spin this
wheel didn't do that last time 'cause
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01:01:12,364 --> 01:01:14,314
we decided to lie about watching
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01:01:16,351 --> 01:01:18,791
… Our eyes were bigger
than our stomach, okay?
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01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:23,411
Like, we'll, we'll come back to Dolly when
we can give her more of our attention.
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01:01:23,611 --> 01:01:24,161
There it is.
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01:01:24,361 --> 01:01:24,571
All right
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01:01:24,901 --> 01:01:25,801
It's not opening.
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01:01:25,861 --> 01:01:26,371
I wonder
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Aren't you opening?
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01:01:27,289 --> 01:01:29,079
Beck: students belly laugh this week.
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01:01:29,409 --> 01:01:33,386
We watched a video, we were talking about
fourth wave feminism, and so I showed
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01:01:33,386 --> 01:01:38,156
them a video of Christine Blasey Ford
and, uh, Brett Kavanaugh, the hearing,
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01:01:38,166 --> 01:01:42,256
the Senate judiciary hearing before
he became, uh, on the Supreme Court.
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01:01:42,606 --> 01:01:45,756
And at the end of it, Lindsey
Graham is speaking and he says,
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01:01:45,986 --> 01:01:50,336
"You tell Sotomayor," and somebody,
whoever else, "Kagan and Sotomayor
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01:01:50,336 --> 01:01:53,626
that Lindsey said hello, and I've
never seen anything so corrupt."
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01:01:53,626 --> 01:01:54,416
And he just went off.
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01:01:54,416 --> 01:01:59,436
And after, I just, like I pushed pause
or end, and I just went, "He died."
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01:01:59,636 --> 01:02:00,886
Dash: He sure did
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01:02:02,289 --> 01:02:03,239
Beck: He died.
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01:02:03,439 --> 01:02:04,559
So it was funny
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01:02:04,759 --> 01:02:08,509
Dash: Well, I guess our Spin app
has, just doesn't work anymore.
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01:02:08,709 --> 01:02:13,479
It's not opening and I can't do
anything to troubleshoot it So
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01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:14,599
We can
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01:02:14,827 --> 01:02:17,957
Beck: What a Fool Believes by the
Doobie Brothers in my head currently.
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01:02:17,957 --> 01:02:20,577
It's been there for several days
and I can't get it to go away
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01:02:20,777 --> 01:02:21,557
Dash: I, I don't think…
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01:02:21,977 --> 01:02:23,687
I haven't had anything stuck
in my head for a while.
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01:02:23,887 --> 01:02:27,267
I, I got rid of all of my, a lo- I
have just not been on a lot of media
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01:02:27,267 --> 01:02:30,777
lately just 'cause I'm so busy, and
I just g- get like that sometimes.
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01:02:30,787 --> 01:02:31,897
Sometimes I just don't wanna
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01:02:31,953 --> 01:02:34,323
Beck: Yeah Shana always
listens to music in the car.
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01:02:34,323 --> 01:02:35,873
I'm always listening to an audiobook.
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01:02:35,913 --> 01:02:39,893
We're different, so her music gets
stuck in my head, and that song,
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01:02:39,903 --> 01:02:41,173
I just can't get out of my head
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01:02:41,373 --> 01:02:45,253
I didn't know that Doobie Brothers was
Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins.
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01:02:45,253 --> 01:02:46,093
I didn't know that
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01:02:46,561 --> 01:02:47,041
Dash: Really?
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01:02:47,554 --> 01:02:48,084
Beck: Yeah.
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01:02:48,154 --> 01:02:50,994
Dash: That's like the only thing
I know about those two people.
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01:02:53,228 --> 01:02:55,738
Well, I'll- and Islands
in the Stream, obviously
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01:02:55,938 --> 01:02:56,468
Beck: Right
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01:02:56,668 --> 01:02:58,148
Dash: That was in my head for a while
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01:02:58,348 --> 01:03:02,728
Beck: The song that was in my head I think
the longest was the, uh, Goodbye Earl,
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01:03:03,045 --> 01:03:03,205
Dash: Bien
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01:03:03,598 --> 01:03:05,868
Beck: and the Eminem song, the You
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01:03:05,922 --> 01:03:06,292
Dash: You can make peepee
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01:03:06,368 --> 01:03:06,618
Beck: Pee
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01:03:06,662 --> 01:03:07,042
Dash: go.
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01:03:07,368 --> 01:03:08,098
Beck: Badoing-doing-doing.
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01:03:08,798 --> 01:03:09,248
Yeah.
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01:03:09,448 --> 01:03:12,108
Very inappropriate for a
lesbian gender studies teacher,
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01:03:12,108 --> 01:03:13,788
but that's what it was, so
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01:03:13,988 --> 01:03:18,488
Dash: Well, I guess we're not gonna choose
anything from the wheel for next time,
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01:03:18,498 --> 01:03:21,048
so we'll just come back and fuck around.
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01:03:21,058 --> 01:03:24,348
Or if we think of something brilliant in
between, we'll surprise y'all with that
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01:03:24,628 --> 01:03:27,398
Beck: Don't forget to email us your,
your pet pictures, especially your cat
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01:03:27,398 --> 01:03:30,758
pictures, at mailbag@queernecks.com
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01:03:31,214 --> 01:03:31,484
Dash: Yep.
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01:03:31,684 --> 01:03:36,384
Pictures of cats, names, whatever you
want us to call you, within reason.
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01:03:37,514 --> 01:03:40,184
if we don't get anything, we've,
we've, me and you together have had
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01:03:40,184 --> 01:03:41,654
enough cats to make a full calendar.
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01:03:41,954 --> 01:03:45,334
But I would rather have, you
know, other people's cats in them.
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01:03:45,484 --> 01:03:46,663
I'll post it on the Facebook too.
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01:03:46,663 --> 01:03:48,534
That's the only social media I kept.
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01:03:48,734 --> 01:03:54,454
And yeah, if you, uh, know of anybody that
you think would, would, would be a Queer
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01:03:54,454 --> 01:03:56,944
Neck, send them a link to the episode.
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01:03:57,144 --> 01:04:00,604
And hopefully, hopefully the
weather's not too bad where you are.
:
01:04:00,804 --> 01:04:04,974
Let me go get this, uh,
soup off of the slow cooker
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01:04:05,174 --> 01:04:07,134
Beck: I, I think I'm gonna
make me a grilled cheese, so
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01:04:07,172 --> 01:04:07,922
Dash: Hell yeah.
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01:04:08,122 --> 01:04:11,822
Well, we hope y'all eat you
something nummy as well, and be
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01:04:11,822 --> 01:04:13,732
good, and say hi to your mom and them
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01:04:13,932 --> 01:04:14,472
Beck: Bye