Episode 43

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Published on:

23rd Mar 2026

Do Whatever We Feel Like

Hosts Beck and Dash open by discussing writing habits, sleep, and accountability tactics like body doubling. They share updates on pain, long drives, mail deliveries, and pets aging and not eating, then pivot to show-and-tell of 1970s lesbian commune zines from Kentucky (“country women”) with homesteading and self-defense content. Conversation touches on dead-celebrity rumors, TV time-travel shows, and a classroom women’s studies exercise about consent and coercion that reveals how some students deny scenarios as assault; they connect this to rape culture, language, and Freud’s retracted findings on hysteria and sexual violence, noting Title IX/mandated reporting. After a comedic sponsor ad, they swap rural food and gas-station stories, then present the “noun of Appalachian interest”: Loretta Lynn’s poor Kentucky upbringing, blunt songs on women’s lives and birth control, and lasting influence.

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00:00 Welcome

00:58 Writing Routines and Space

02:35 Sleep Habits and Accountability

05:31 Walks Weather and Errands

07:40 Mystery Package Game

08:11 Queer Zines Show and Tell

10:27 Celebrity Deaths and Politics

13:55 TV Time Travel and Quantum Leap

15:28 Zine Page Turns Dark

16:17 Teaching Consent and Coercion

21:38 Freud Hysteria and Rape Culture

26:59 Old Magazines and Lost Stash

29:11 Trucker Meth Ad

30:50 Yellow Jackets Memories

31:24 Briar Patch Gas Mart

32:06 Country Food Debates

35:40 Kimchi Quest

37:12 Pizza And Gas Prices

39:11 Car Values Talk

41:26 Pets Aging Reality

43:11 Bowling Green Reflections

44:30 Loretta Lynn Spotlight

48:24 Appalachian History Tangents

52:35 Movie Picks And Wrap

Transcript
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that

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puts the Yee Hall in y'all means hall.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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It was, my audio was kind of echoy

because of how empty this room is

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and everything's a hard surface.

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So I like did something, some weird

stuff and put quilts down random

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places, like on the floor in here.

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We'll see if that does anything

for the, for the audio.

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It sounds like you thought

you muted yourself,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Oh, did I not?

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: No.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Can you still hear me?

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Oh, I've been using that as

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mute button for a long time.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

it normally works, but for, right,

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because I can hear the click, click,

and then I can see you like cough or

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whatever, but that time it did not mute

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Oh, good to know.

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Sorry about that.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

we got the full experience.

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Oh, happy Saturday.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yes, it is.

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It is.

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I slept in, so that was wonderful though.

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My in therapy this week we decided that

I had to get up early on Friday and

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Saturday, and I didn't do it either day.

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So

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Okay.

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What's the reason?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

because I need to be writing.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Uh,

and are you more likely to write in the

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yes.

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My brain goes to shit after

a certain point in the day.

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I just know myself,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

No, I know what you mean.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: So

I used to have to take my math classes

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at like 8:00 AM because otherwise the

numbers were not getting into my brain.

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Like if I'm awake at it

wouldn't willingly take it.

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So,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Where do you do your writing?

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Is it at the same place we record?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

yes, but I'm working on that.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Yeah, that'll

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, we bought a desk to

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go in the spare bedroom.

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It's little, but it's, its surface.

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And that's really all I need.

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We have a chair.

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So.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yep.

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That was something I was actually

living on campus in the dorms last

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year I was writing and there was

a little study room down the hall.

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that's the reason I wrote as

much as I did over spring break

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'cause the students were gone.

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So I would just get up, make

my coffee or whatever, carry my

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laptop down the hallway, and then

sit in the study room for hours.

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I would, of course, I was also out of

my mind on prednisone, but I, I would've

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been doing that anyway, just maybe

not as, as like frenzied of a pace.

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'Cause I continued doing it even after

that, once the psychosis was gone.

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So like a change of location will

really like, loosen things up for you.

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I

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Well, Shannon is working generally 6:00

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AM to 2:00 PM and so she's gone the

the times that I'm here pretty much.

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And then the other times

that we're sleeping.

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Sleeping is a big issue for me.

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I've been going to bed at like nine

30 and getting up at like nine 30,

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so I don't need that much sleep,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: There

was an episode of Amy Poehler's podcast.

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Good hang.

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And I typically, you know, as I, you

know, am an independent podcaster, I

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have had feelings, probably not very fair

feelings about the celebrity podcast boom.

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And, but hers is an exception

because she's so good at it.

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She's such a good interviewer and host

to the people she brings on the show.

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And I also just love her in general,

but she had, there was an episode where

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Dakota Johnson was on it and she was

talking about her obsession with sleeping.

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And she sleeps 12, 14 hours a

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Like,

I don't know how she ever goes to work.

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I'm like, you should get that looked

at because, 'cause she's like, what

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is she in her thirties and she's a,

maybe, is she anemic or something?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I just, mine came from a long, long,

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long stem of depression and grief.

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And then I just got in the habit.

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And once you get in the habit of it,

it's real easy to stay in the happy habit

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of it, especially when you don't have a

lot of responsibilities outside of work.

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So literally all I do is

work and sleep and watch tv.

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That's my whole life right now.

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And I need more writing in there.

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Less sleeping.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yep.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Goodness gracious.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Well, I have to write also, so

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we'll be accountability buddies.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

my therapist wants me to find

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somebody to hold me accountable

for writing time, and I'm like.

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Literally, I'm not app, I'm

not laying that on anybody.

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You know what I mean?

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She like, she's just, and she just

assumes there's lots of people in

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my life that would be happy to do

such a thing, and I'm like, Nope.

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That's just not how it works.

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I'm not, no.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: She

might be assuming that, you know, lots

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of other people that are also writing,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I, I guess, I don't know.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

because that's normally what that means

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when people say something like that.

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They mean like working with other

people who also have projects to do.

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I think it's called body doubling.

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I think this is what Sabrina called it.

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And it's really good for people with a DHD

or just generally issues with like sitting

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down to accomplish a task procrastination.

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And so I did that with my friend who was

a co-host on another show I was doing.

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We both had a bunch of writing to do and

that's kind of how I finished it after

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the, you know, the big spurt of creativity

was over just actually every day there.

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For several weeks we logged on.

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We just like got on Google meet, muted.

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We were both there.

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Like we could see each other

if we, if we wanted to.

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But we would mute ourselves and then

write for however long we felt like,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Well, that seems like a good idea.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I

don't know why it works, but it does.

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You're just so much more likely

to actually sit there if you

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know somebody's with you.

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I went for a walk in my shorts earlier.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Oh, you're one of those dudes, huh?

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Well, no, it's actually that warm here.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Uh.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I mean,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

You were in Ohio for too long,

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man, yesterday not yesterday.

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Thursday I have an 1130 class and

it's still kind of chilly usually

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'cause it's still kind of morning-ish.

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Um, and I had a couple of dudes in

my class that came in straight up

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like runner shorts and tank tops

and it was like 51 degrees outside.

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It was like, y'all are doing

way too much right now.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I, I don't go for walks in the

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kind of clothes I would wear to

a place somebody could see me.

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Like I'm very much like comfort

because I try to go for long walks

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because my legs are so, they need

so much work, like the, especially

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the neuropathy from the knee down.

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it takes me a long time to do,

to get any kind of a walk-in

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because I have to be so careful.

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And I'm, I've got these, like my magic

shoes that I wear for walking that

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have these bottoms in 'em, and they're

called guide rails on the sides that are

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supposed to help your foot not turn over

or anything weird when you're walking.

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But that also has a learning curve to it.

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So yeah, and I just look like, I just look

like a fucking fool when I go on my walks.

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So I just felt free this morning, I

guess, and put on my little shorts.

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But tomorrow it's gonna snow, so

probably won't even go for a walk.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I've got so much grading I gotta do.

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I'm gonna be stuck inside.

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We meandered yesterday,

so that was my free time.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I was gonna go, the students had

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their drag show last night, and

I was, hell, Ben, I was gonna go.

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And then I wound up not being able

to, to call it because my legs were

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hurting so bad because I have had to,

I've done more driving this week than

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I have in the past four months combined

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Wow.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

because I've had to go, every day, except

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for yesterday, I had to go somewhere

that was at least a four hour round trip

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Wow.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

for some bullshit because it's just

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two was doctors and another was

doing, trying to do normal stuff,

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had to return something to Amazon.

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So you just clear your whole

calendar for that shit.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Speaking of the thing I

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sent you was delivered.

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yesterday.

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It's in a parcel locker.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Okay.

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They took it to the post office.

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Got it.

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Yay.

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I'll go check.

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Later on.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: You

are gonna have to let me know what you

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think when you, when you check it out.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Okay, I'm gonna try to guess what it is.

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Can we play 20 questions?

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Can I eat it?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yes,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Am I supposed to eat it?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yes.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

All right?

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I think I know what it is, so

I'm not gonna guess anymore

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'cause I don't wanna be

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Okay.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

So I wanna show you the show and

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tell thing I was telling you about.

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I remembered that I had these on my walk.

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They are, lemme see what year

magazines, homemade from the

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seventies is what these are from.

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I, I think that they, they

have existed for a long time.

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I don't know if they still do.

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I have some the eighties and nineties

of a lesbian commune in Kentucky.

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Uh, called country women.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Where did you acquire such a thing?

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I used

to have a friend that hoarded things like

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this because he thought it made him cool.

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But this, these, so I've

got like a fucking stack

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Oh, wow.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: And

so like, this one is called homesteading.

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This is volume one.

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It costs 60 cent at the time.

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I wonder where it was sold.

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I wonder if it's got the bookstore in

here that published by country women.

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I don't know.

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I, I don't know for sure

that these are that.

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They're local, uh, listeners, if you have

ever heard of this zine, let us know.

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Oh, this one's got a song in it.

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But it has all these tutorials for

things like the difference between

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a, a mall and a ax and a sledge,

and this one's how to build a fence.

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So it's like the

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

How to guide.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: yeah.

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There's a book that's about, that's kind

of like the field in stream guide, no

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bushcraft bushcraft guide, the Bushcraft

Handbook or something like that.

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But this is like the, the

queer woman version of it.

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so gonna

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: You

would think the queer version of the

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one that would be called bushcraft.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

why isn't this one?

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yeah, I got.

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Like 10 of these.

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I thought I lost them all because

they were in a pile of comics that

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Ziggy was peeing on down in Kentucky.

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She had just the worst

habit there for a while.

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If anybody wants a female

cat, just let me know.

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Oh, did you fall?

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Oh, one's called Women Working.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I had to get we, we has not been

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feeling well the last few days, so

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Oh no.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Better perk up window.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah,

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Well, that's fun.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I don't know what she's spearhead.

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Strike to the eyes with

the downward block.

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She's doing some martial art.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Speaking of Chuck, Chuck Norris died.

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Did you hear?

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I saw that.

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Yeah.

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You know, it had been so long since

I had even really thought about him.

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Do, do you know anything about him?

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Like, was he

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Well,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: dude?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: nephew

is a, so is, is obsessed with Bruce Lee

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and so therefore, like the, the Chuck

versus Bruce Lee matchup at whatever

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point he's, he's posted lots of stuff.

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So I'm a by the way, kind of

Conno sewer of information.

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Uh, he was, he posted a RIP, but

no, Chuck Norris was not a good

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guy, from what I can understand.

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He was a misogynistic old

school racist piece of crap.

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Xenophobic, uh, maga.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But Afroman, from what I understand,

is also a MAGA and everyone is

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celebrating him right now, so.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Well, that's just, you know, like what

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they say a broken clock is right twice a

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Right,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

If you make a cop cry,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: right,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I'm gonna think that's funny, right?

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I'm gonna think that's cool.

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Even if I wouldn't want to talk

to you about my rights, I'm still

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gonna think that's pretty baller.

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Sort of similar to Clint Eastwood,

you know, he had some dumb ass

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political opinions, has whatever.

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Right.

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Is he alive?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Uh, I think

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Clintwood,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

let's Google it.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

if you're dead, you have to tell us.

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Otherwise, it's entrapment.

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But he, you know, like remember when

he had that whole debate with Obama

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in the empty chair at the Republican

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yes, I do remember that.

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He is alive.

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He's 95.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah.

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And he, like his movies have these

messy ideologies and things that I

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can't agree with, like the whole point.

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and, and in a way that's

actually kind of cool, right?

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The point of Million Dollar

Baby is that she doesn't want to

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live life as a disabled person.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Right.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: And

that raises this uncomfortable question of

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does she have the right to feel that way?

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what is the movie?

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Is the movie condoning this or

is it merely representing it?

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So, but anyway, he, but he has some other

ideas that are pretty progressive, right?

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Like he thinks that queer and trans

people should be left the fuck alone.

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Uh, speaking of dead, dead celebrities,

Nicholas Brendan also died.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I don't know who that is.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

guy that played, he played,

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oh, what's his dude?

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There's this incel dude in

Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I've

never seen a whole episode of that show.

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Oh, I love me some.

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Buffy Xander was his name.

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He's, in love with Buffy and

Simps for her really hard.

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But he is also like

broody and pouty and suky.

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And every time she dates somebody

or expresses an interest in somebody

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that's not him, he gets really passive

aggressive and, he's just not likable.

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He's not a likable character.

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And apparently the actor himself was

also, wasn't very likable, but he

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struggled with addiction addictions.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I think

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I know who you're talking about.

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I saw a picture of the guy I think is

from Buffy, so there's only one guy

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from Buffy that died this week, so

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I assume it's that guy

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah.

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Probably

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I was not watching TV at the time

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that he was really famous, like late

nineties to early two thousands.

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I just wasn't watching a lot of tv.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

No, I completely missed it.

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I watched it when I was 33

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Got ya.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

and I binged it from beginning to end.

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All seven seasons in like three weeks.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, we've done that.

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We just did that with the Way Home.

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I've always liked time

travel stuff, so I enjoy it.

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I, that's, I loved Quantum Leap too.

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That really was my first

love when it came to sci-fi.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I didn't really watch that one.

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It is so good.

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You should watch it.

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Now.

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The the remake, they did a whole trans

episode, about a, a young girl being on

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the, on the school basketball team and

she was trans and her dad was the coach.

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And when he jumps in, he

doesn't know anything.

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So he, they were down a play.

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So he puts the girl in and he had

had, uh, an arrangement to, to

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not play her, let her be on the

team, but not actually play her.

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But then he played her and

it became a big ordeal.

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And it was a beautiful episode.

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I showed it in class one time.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Hmm.

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didn't even know there was a remake.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: the,

one of the main guys is genderqueer,

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the guy that runs the computer.

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Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Mason Park.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: They

were very gender progressive on that show.

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So, of course it only lasted one season.

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You know what I mean?

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Right.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I thought it was pretty good.

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I was looking forward

to seeing what happened,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Oh, NBC

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah,

but you should watch the original one.

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The original one still holds up.

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It's pretty good.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I've seen the odd episode.

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Did you see the, the one where he

was the kid with Down syndrome?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah.

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I've seen that whole show

like five times over.

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I,

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

like, anytime I would see it, I was just

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focused on like, uh, the production,

like how they were actually doing their,

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what you call it, their effects, know,

the way they would film him but him,

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but have him also be somebody else.

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The moment it would reveal that he was who

he was, that was actually kind of cool.

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Ca uh, camera techniques.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah,

they did a lot of fun stuff like that.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Okay, I'm gonna pick a page.

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Oh, this one's on spirituality

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Ooh.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

structures.

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People were just out here, you

know, could you, I couldn't imagine

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Gen Z doing some shit like this.

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They would be it, they would

think it was too cringe.

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

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It'd have to be digital anyway.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

my students make zines out of paper.

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Like they, they'll have events

where they sit and make things.

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Oh, look, it's the, they've got

some self-defense things, and

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it's the key technique where

you put your, your keys in,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

But see, you're not

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supposed to do it that way.

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You're supposed to do it with

your keys like this so that you

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can stab easier and it doesn't.

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Cut between your fingers.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Yeah, you're gonna hurt

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yourself if you do Do it this

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

my God.

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These, this page just says rape.

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All right,

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

my speaking of rape.

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I, uh, ran my, but was it rape exercise?

405

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And I, the, the results this time

around were very eye-opening.

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I had a kid who answered one to

almost all of them listeners.

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I teach a, a women's studies class and.

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As part of that, we do an exercise

where I read a, a couple of

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scenarios and the students on their

own rank, whether they think it is

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definitely assault or definitely

not assault on a one to five scale.

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And the point of the exercise is

to show everyone the wide range

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in responses of what people think

of the exact same scenarios.

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It's very clear to most people

that those are all sexual assault.

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All of the scenarios are, but you

get some, some of the guys that it's

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almost always a guy, um, that rates

several of the, the scenarios as a

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one meaning definitely not assault.

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And people are just shocked

that you, that you have that.

418

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And I, I did it online for my

online class and I did it in

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person for my face-to-face class.

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And the results are always the same.

421

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There's always a couple of them

who, who rate them ones and twos.

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And it's a very interesting exercise.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Do you think when they do that really

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believe that, or if they just want

to hurt you or anybody who, who

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might know that they voted that way?

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I, the online one, there's

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no accountability to it.

428

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It's just, it's just a little quiz.

429

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It's a qual Qualtrics quiz.

430

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They, their name doesn't

get associated with it.

431

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It does, so that I can give them credit.

432

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They put their name in at the beginning,

but at the end they don't have, when

433

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I show the results of everybody,

their name is taken off of it.

434

:

So there's, I mean, I guess that

there's still some shock value in that

435

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but no accountability of any kind.

436

:

And then it, it could be with the,

the second the, the guy sits the

437

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back and laughs a little bit too

much for my liking in my class.

438

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I don't know why he took it.

439

:

He seems like an oddball

for to me, but he's there.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Did you say you do this exercise

441

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more than once in the semester?

442

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

No, I only do it once per semester.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: okay.

444

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I, I used to do it after

445

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our unit on sexual assault.

446

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Um, but then I decided to do it

before our unit on sexual assault

447

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to kind of gauge where they are.

448

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Because once you talk through, because

it's between the sex ed lesson where

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we go through and one of the things we

agree upon as a group, um, usually is

450

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that if you're too drunk to drive, you're

probably too drunk to consent to sex.

451

:

Right.

452

:

And one of the scenarios, um, it's two

women and one of them is blackout drunk.

453

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And they have, a lot of, people

have a real hard time saying

454

:

whether that's assault or not.

455

:

Number one, because it's two women

and they feel like, how can a woman

456

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assault a woman, uh, very easily.

457

:

That's the answer.

458

:

And then.

459

:

They also think if, what if they're

both drunk, then then whose fault is it?

460

:

And you have to be very frank with

them and say, well, you know, sex isn't

461

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something that just happens . It's,

it takes the concerted effort of at

462

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least one party to get the deed done.

463

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And whoever's doing that should, should

understand that they're too drunk to

464

:

consent, so therefore it's an assault.

465

:

they just, they haven't had their

beliefs challenged like that before.

466

:

In one of the scenarios, it's a girl.

467

:

There's the, the guy in the relationship.

468

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They've been together for six

months and the guy wants to

469

:

wait until marriage to have sex.

470

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And the girl decides it's time.

471

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And so even though he said no a

hundred times, she whips out a

472

:

condom one night and is like, if

you really love me, you'll do it.

473

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And he thinks about how he got teased.

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And so he gives in and people almost

universally, not universally, if, if

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I get a one, it's usually on that one.

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Um, a lot of people

realize that they're fives.

477

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But if I get ones, it's on that

one or the last one where it's two

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guys and one assaults the other.

479

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He never really says no.

480

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He's like, Hey, we should

get back to watching tv.

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And then he tries, Hey, we should

get back to studying for the exam.

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One guy came up after class.

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He's, he's kind of a thorn in my

side, and he said, um, he always

484

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waits till everybody's gone and then

comes up and talks to me, which I

485

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usually like, but this one's weird.

486

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But he said, well, to be honest,

two of those were rape and two

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of those were sexual assault.

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And I said, how do you

define the difference?

489

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And he said, well, I think

it, it's a legal definition.

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There's a difference between the two.

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And I was like, okay.

492

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'cause I'm not arguing with a

kid alone in a classroom about

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something like this, you know?

494

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And so, I was like, okay, you can,

you can think whatever you want.

495

:

I really don't care.

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Yeah, coercion.

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They have a hard time with that

one, the first time they find out

498

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about it, because I think people in

general are not super aware of how

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pervasive coercion is in general.

500

:

In

501

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Right.

502

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

our society.

503

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A, a lot of the things we do are

not actually our idea in general.

504

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: One

time I worked for a rape crisis center and

505

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I ran this, the, this exercise in a group

home that had women who were on probation

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or parole, um, with their children.

507

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They were single mothers on probation

or parole, um, with little children.

508

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And so we ran this episode and

several of them had experience with

509

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prostitution and things like that.

510

:

And one lady, we were talking

about how if somebody asks you over

511

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and over and over again and you

finally give into them, that's not

512

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really consent, that's coercion.

513

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And she was like, well, if that's true,

I've been assaulted hundreds of times.

514

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And it was just like one of those,

look at the camera office moments,

515

:

like, you're so close to getting it.

516

:

You know, like, yeah.

517

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Was what happened to Freud actually.

518

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

What do you mean?

519

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

He before he was even, you know,

520

:

out on his own, he was working

with this other psychologist.

521

:

let me see if I can find his name.

522

:

Brewer, Joseph Brewer.

523

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They were studying, uh,

hysteria in women and

524

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Wondering Uterus

525

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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: yeah,

probably women in institutions was a lot

526

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of, so there's some gray ethics to how

they even conducted this study, they were

527

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doing, you know, interview-based research.

528

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So talking to these women, which.

529

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you just said, wasn't

really how we talked.

530

:

That wasn't how we got information

about people for, for a long time.

531

:

We just simply decided what

must be wrong with them.

532

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: right.

533

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: so

like, yeah, their uterus is wandering

534

:

around so they must have hysteria.

535

:

Well, brewer and Freud thought that, there

must be something scientific about it.

536

:

Like there could be something,

environmental or social

537

:

going on or mental, right.

538

:

They were developing this field of

psychology and they discovered the common

539

:

thread among the vast majority of the

women that they interviewed was rape.

540

:

So these women were experiencing

PTSD and Freud actually.

541

:

Considered that he and

I, it's still out there.

542

:

You can read what he wrote even though he

redacted it, uh, or retracted it later.

543

:

But he was like, that can't be, because

that would mean that almost every woman

544

:

experiences sexual violence of some

545

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

546

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

that's just simply not possible because

547

:

I personally haven't done that to anybody

because it was, it wasn't just hysteria.

548

:

They were also, it was neuroses.

549

:

I think it was just general neuroses

and the fact that so many women of this

550

:

particular class he was studying and

where he, where he was studying, had

551

:

experienced neurosis to some degree.

552

:

He was like, no, was too

horrible for him to imagine.

553

:

So he discounted the, the possibility

554

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

555

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

and I kind of, I.

556

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It's hard to say if you wouldn't do the

same, in that time and place and with

557

:

what we thought we knew about how the,

the farer sex is treated, and to find

558

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something horrible like that, that every

woman you know, that probably experienced

559

:

it, your mother, your sister, your

grandmother, I could totally sympathize

560

:

with not wanting to know that, with not

wanting to take that, uh, idea seriously.

561

:

I think that that's how a lot of

rape polism, I think rape culture in

562

:

general depends on our, that need.

563

:

We have to, to wish it away to go

like, I really don't like that.

564

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I wish it wasn't like that, and

I can't do anything to change

565

:

it, so I'm gonna ignore it.

566

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, just the widespread denial there.

567

:

The denial of widespread

rape is definitely a, a,

568

:

a portion of rape culture.

569

:

Um, so is victim blaming?

570

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So is, uh, lots of things.

571

:

You, you see jokes on tv,

you see it in advertising.

572

:

I show, um, a pizza box from

Domino's that says no is the new Yes.

573

:

Like, yeah.

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:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Oh my God.

575

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

576

:

And there's some crazy ones.

577

:

And then like the language they use

when somebody's caught, you know, doing

578

:

something to a child like Jared Fogel, uh,

charged with paying for sex with minors.

579

:

You can't pay for sex with minors.

580

:

You are paying to rape children.

581

:

Like, let's use the actual language, you

know, or this whole Epstein Island shit.

582

:

They're talking about

these underage women.

583

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Underage women.

584

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

585

:

Like, which is it?

586

:

Are they underage or are they women?

587

:

Like, you don't hear underage men.

588

:

Like you never, you

never hear that phrase.

589

:

Right.

590

:

And yeah, the rape culture, I have to

remind them several times that I'm a

591

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mandated reporter and I've always still

gotta do a couple of Title IX things.

592

:

It's trickier in my online class because

I let my students create the questions

593

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and stuff, so they have to be, yeah.

594

:

But I have to go in and make sure the,

the everything's still going well.

595

:

So this is a heavy week on

reading the discussion boards.

596

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Hmm.

597

:

The name of this book was

Studies on Hysteria from:

598

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There's a cool article I just

found how Freud betrayed his

599

:

mentor and invented psychoanalysis.

600

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So this is how he pivoted into,

psychoanalysis, like the idea that we're

601

:

we're motivated by sex and violence.

602

:

So he.

603

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And the death drives and all that stuff.

604

:

Yeah.

605

:

I don't know.

606

:

I, I, I like psychoanalysis sometimes,

especially if it's in a feminist context.

607

:

Like I, Kristeva's always gonna be one

of my favorite authors, what that's what

608

:

she's doing is feminist psychoanalysis.

609

:

And so in a way we kind of have to

give Freud his flowers, but I've

610

:

never read anything of his where

I'm like, oh, yep, you got it Queen.

611

:

Like, no.

612

:

Well, the best thing he did was

die so other people could take his

613

:

stuff and do something with it.

614

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Tell me how you really feel, dude.

615

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

It's just so, when you start trying to

616

:

tell people about themselves based on

what you have observed and frameworks

617

:

that, that only you have authored,

of course you're gonna fuck up.

618

:

But I have never cited

Freud, I guess until now.

619

:

That is kind of what I just did.

620

:

Give me a number between one and 20.

621

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: 17.

622

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Okay.

623

:

I'm trying to turn to a page in this book.

624

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

That's what I do to call

625

:

on random people in class.

626

:

I look at someone and say, gimme a

number between one and 34 and whatever

627

:

they pick, that's who has to talk.

628

:

It's evil.

629

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

The The Dreams, the thing, I think

630

:

this is a creative essay from a

book called Older Women Have been,

631

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Ooh,

632

:

I wonder if it's older women,

as in respect your elders.

633

:

Older women or older women

as in sexy time, older women,

634

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I don't know.

635

:

It's Hard to Tell is, I think it's a

636

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I.

637

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

called Rose Anchor.

638

:

Uh, but it is not very good.

639

:

So I don't know.

640

:

It'll take some digging to

find anything good in there.

641

:

I've had 'em forever and still

never read all the way through one

642

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: One

of the things I looked for desperately

643

:

at my mom's house and never did come

upon, was somewhere in that house,

644

:

supposedly was still the remains of

a magazine collection that my dad had

645

:

gotten when they owned the porno shop.

646

:

And they were, um, all of

mannequins instead of naked women.

647

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

You told me about

648

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah,

649

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

could mail them out

650

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah.

651

:

Because of the Comstock law.

652

:

And so that's before Playboy

and all that kind of stuff.

653

:

That's how they got around it.

654

:

And so there's like erotic

mannequin kind of things.

655

:

And you can imagine, I can only

imagine that really was one of the

656

:

reasons the sixties was so weird.

657

:

You know,

658

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah.

659

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

people that grew up,

660

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

or did you give up the

661

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I gave up, oh, I sold everything

662

:

and I sold the property.

663

:

So if it's still there, we looked

everywhere I could think to look.

664

:

So my dad's girlfriend lived in my

mom's house for six months between

665

:

the time that my dad died and that

I got the keys to the place and

666

:

there was a lot of stuff missing.

667

:

So if she found the porn stash,

she was probably the type to get,

668

:

because there was none of that.

669

:

There was nothing.

670

:

They, they had a copy of the

Italian stallion, which was

671

:

the rocky, uh, the Sylvester

Stallone, uh, pornography they had.

672

:

That was nowhere to be found.

673

:

All that kind of stuff was gone.

674

:

Oh, let's talk about something else.

675

:

I

676

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Well,

let's hear a word from our sponsor then.

677

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678

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713

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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

That's hilarious.

714

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It was

called Yellow Jackets at the Shell Station

715

:

in, in Williamsburg when we were in high

716

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

yeah, I remember those things.

717

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: yeah.

718

:

'cause they were these gigantic

pills that were striped yellow and

719

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yep.

720

:

We sold 'em at the Briar Patch that

summer that I worked at the Briar Patch.

721

:

People bought 'em a lot.

722

:

Have I talked about the Briar

Patch on this show before?

723

:

Probably.

724

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

think you did.

725

:

Yeah.

726

:

You have.

727

:

But I was about to say, I thought

you did a, a amount of Appalachian

728

:

interest, but I don't know that for

729

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I don't think I did the Briar patch.

730

:

Maybe I, maybe I did.

731

:

I can't remember.

732

:

Oh yeah, the Greenbriar, which

is totally a different thing.

733

:

The Briar patch is the gas station

closest to my house and my mom's house,

734

:

and it is not just a gas station anymore.

735

:

They build it into a little market.

736

:

You can get literally racing fuel.

737

:

You can get live bait, you can

get fried frog legs or fried

738

:

chicken and jojo's or biscuits.

739

:

Um, you can get ice cream,

you can get any kind of pop

740

:

except for sugar free Red Bull.

741

:

They refuse to sell it

there for some reason.

742

:

I guess they think it won't sell.

743

:

Um, you can get a statue of an

Indian lady with an eagle on it.

744

:

You can get a sympathy card from 1975.

745

:

You can get pizza rolls,

you can get slushies.

746

:

You can get anything

that you can think of.

747

:

It is there.

748

:

You can get the little crack

pipe roses on the counter.

749

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Have you ever had frog legs?

750

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I refused.

751

:

No, I'm not trying 'em

outta the Briar patch.

752

:

I'll tell you that.

753

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I've never tried 'em.

754

:

I, but I think I'm, remember we

were at me and me and David for sure

755

:

were at a buffet one time that had

'em, but, and he tried 'em, but I

756

:

didn't, but I think I would try 'em.

757

:

What's the most country thing you've ate?

758

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Oh lord.

759

:

Probably a roast beef sandwich with

mashed potatoes and gravy on top of it.

760

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

An open face

761

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

762

:

Yeah.

763

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: okay.

764

:

that, is that a hot brown

765

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I think that's what they're called

766

:

in like Lexington or whatever ever.

767

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It's

mashed potatoes and beef of some kind.

768

:

Open face sandwich, roasted Turkey,

tomatoes, cheese, bacon, paprika.

769

:

Damn.

770

:

It actually kind of good, even though I

have never enjoyed an open face sandwich.

771

:

I've had,

772

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

773

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

yeah, I don't know.

774

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

She doesn't like soggy bread.

775

:

Might be the soggy bread.

776

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Yeah, that could be it too.

777

:

Like it, the, the soggy

bread to me is acceptable.

778

:

If it's cake, like if

it's sweet, I'll allow it.

779

:

Like french toast, I love french toast,

780

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

781

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

soaked in syrup.

782

:

I love that kind of thing,

but not if it's savory.

783

:

I do not want

784

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

785

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

toasted

786

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Shanna

loves a good hot dog with coleslaw,

787

:

but she will not eat like a, uh, I make

a really good beef barbecue, shredded

788

:

beef barbecue that you make sandwiches

out of, and she won't eat that because

789

:

it gets a little bit wet on the bun.

790

:

And I'm like, you don't slather the

whole bottle of the barbecue sauce on it.

791

:

Like.

792

:

As long as you eat it a rather fast

fashion, there's no issue there.

793

:

But she still won't do it.

794

:

I don't know.

795

:

I tried yesterday to get her to eat

Crab Rangoon and she just won't do it.

796

:

It's delicious.

797

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I love crab

798

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

799

:

She won't do it.

800

:

I have been right about so many

things, I'm like, if you'll

801

:

try it, you're gonna like it.

802

:

And I know if she would just

give it a fair shot, but she'll

803

:

never give it a fair shot.

804

:

So it is what it is.

805

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: My

mom was like, that sort of, it doesn't

806

:

sound like she was as extreme bad as she I

807

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah,

808

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

but she was not gonna try new things.

809

:

you know, by the time she encountered

something like guacamole, she was

810

:

in her mid forties or something and

maybe not feeling super adventurous.

811

:

So, you know, whatever.

812

:

I think so I'd never had anything

like chitlins or, uh, I never had

813

:

pickled pig's feet, but they, like,

those were around, we were the people

814

:

who had that farm when we were kids,

they had pickled pig's feet and like

815

:

the, the grosser, things like that.

816

:

I am not eating

817

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, no, my dad liked that kinda shit.

818

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

It turns to mush.

819

:

It's disgusting.

820

:

It's because it's gelatin.

821

:

It just reduces down to the gelatin.

822

:

But I really did love chicken livers.

823

:

Like they were just so gamey

and irony and they, like, if you

824

:

fried 'em, oh man, they're good.

825

:

I thought I was, I was over at the

gas station the other day and they had

826

:

something on the, the hot bar and I swore,

I was like, are those chicken livers?

827

:

And he looked at me like I had

grown a penis outta my forehead.

828

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

That would be a neat drink.

829

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I was like, I'm sorry.

830

:

I thought they look like chicken livers.

831

:

What are they?

832

:

I don't even remember what he said

because it was something completely

833

:

not, I don't even know if it was meat.

834

:

I was like, you need to take these off

the bar because they're giving some sort

835

:

of internal organ that you apparently

think is not fit for human consumption.

836

:

But I like him.

837

:

I mean, and I think it's because my

dad really liked him and I believe

838

:

I got a lot of my palate from him.

839

:

He's the one who introduced me to

like kimchi or spicy Asian food in

840

:

general.

841

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

never tried kimchi though.

842

:

I watch the kid that makes it every day

with his, sometimes you just gotta eat a,

843

:

yeah, he'll eat a cucumber with that kid.

844

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I, I love kimchi.

845

:

I've been looking for

it since I moved here.

846

:

I found some, they thought it was cute,

some Midwest abomination of kimchi.

847

:

It was called like Midwest kimchi.

848

:

And it was, it was pickled coleslaw.

849

:

It looked like it was, it literally

just looked straight up like coleslaw.

850

:

It was shredded, you know,

cabbage and carrots and stuff.

851

:

And I was like, this horse

shit is not gonna fly.

852

:

Haven't found real kimchi

since I moved out here.

853

:

And literally, you can

buy this stuff at Walmart.

854

:

It is not some, like, you don't

have to travel to the ends of

855

:

the earth to get this stuff,

856

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Do you want me to mail you some?

857

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

not a Walmart

858

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

I'm sure we have it.

859

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: here.

860

:

That was what, but it's fermented.

861

:

And so I don't know if you can mail

it because it's in a glass jar and

862

:

if it, if you shake it, it explodes.

863

:

But I can make some, so

that's what Claire said.

864

:

She was gonna look and see if like

there's seasoning you can buy online

865

:

because it's just cabbage and some,

you know, carrots and other things.

866

:

Whatever you feel like slicing

up, you can, you can pickle.

867

:

But yeah, I love the stuff.

868

:

It's so like spicy and hot

and I just like cabbage too,

869

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

870

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

is weird.

871

:

I

872

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

873

:

I'm not a big cabbage fan myself though.

874

:

I do like an egg roll though.

875

:

I usually just take the outer

wrapping of the egg roll the stuff

876

:

it with rice, ' cause I'm weird.

877

:

It's really good that way.

878

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

you do with the inside?

879

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Leave it on the plate.

880

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Oh my god.

881

:

I miss food.

882

:

It's been a long time since we

just sat and gushed about food.

883

:

I think I might be hungry.

884

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, I am too.

885

:

Shana's supposed to bring Jets home.

886

:

Do you remember Jet's Pizza?

887

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I do.

888

:

I haven't had pizza in a while.

889

:

Actually.

890

:

The last pizza I had was breakfast pizza

891

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I,

892

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: the

Casey's, from from the gas station, uh,

893

:

which is one of the best things they make.

894

:

I love their breakfast pizza.

895

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

yeah, we've been eating the

896

:

ellos in our little neighborhood.

897

:

I like their pizza bread sandwich and

sh likes what they call their Amanda

898

:

bread, which is basically cheese

sticks, cheese bread, cheese strips or

899

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It's

900

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

whatever.

901

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Amanda.

902

:

Amanda

903

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, I don't know.

904

:

Maybe someone, a name.

905

:

Amanda liked it the first, I don't

know if that's just what it's

906

:

called, but it's pretty good stuff

907

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

What's the gas up to there?

908

:

Is your

909

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

like 3 79.

910

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Yeah, ours is, I think

911

:

we're up to four bucks now.

912

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

The shout out to Speedway, I stopped

913

:

to get gas there on Shannon's number

and there was 38 cents off a gallon.

914

:

And all she buys is a pop every night to

go to work on, and we, we've been buying

915

:

gas there, so shout out to Speedway.

916

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I have Casey's rewards and the

917

:

Upside app that gives you cash back

918

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

919

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: gas.

920

:

And I still and paying

like three 30 a gallon.

921

:

I had to go to Fargo to see

another specialist this week.

922

:

That was one of my four hour round trips.

923

:

And I happened to see a place

in the middle of nowhere.

924

:

This place was in a fucking cornfield

between here and Fargo, and they

925

:

had gas for like three 10 a gallon.

926

:

And I'd like, I, I really felt

like my dad in doing this.

927

:

Like I had like.

928

:

Almost whi the car off the

road and made a beeline.

929

:

I was like, hell yeah.

930

:

This is the cheapest gas

in the tri-state area.

931

:

I, I remember like making so

much fun of old people for, for

932

:

frugality and things when I was

a kid and now I'm like scraping.

933

:

I have pennies in my pocket

for fuck's sake right now.

934

:

Like I'm paying with exact change.

935

:

Next time I get a coffee at the,

the gas station or something.

936

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

That's hilarious.

937

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

It is rough out

938

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

It sure is.

939

:

It sure is.

940

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I

asked Carvana what they wanted for my

941

:

subie earlier that, a bad precedent.

942

:

I don't need to be doing that.

943

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

944

:

I, uh, they, they sent me an

estimate of what my car is

945

:

worth versus what I paid for it.

946

:

I'm a little pissed, so

947

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Uh oh.

948

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

yeah, I paid 15 for it, and it says

949

:

it's worth like 5,800 for resale.

950

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah.

951

:

Uh, is it an American

952

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

It is a Chevy

953

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah.

954

:

Chevys do not hold their value.

955

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

man, but my first, my last

956

:

one was a Chevy Malibu, and it

lasted over 200,000 miles and I,

957

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

that they, they have durability.

958

:

They just don't hold value.

959

:

It's, it's wild.

960

:

Like I have traded in

cars for and in domestic.

961

:

And so for instance, I, uh, had a

car, a Toyota that I bought for 7,000.

962

:

It was an oh five, it was very old.

963

:

Uh, and I bought this thing in in 2009,

so it was like four years old at the time,

964

:

had low miles it got hit by a flash flood.

965

:

And totaled, they totaled it out and.

966

:

That I, they gave me for it.

967

:

This was like eight years later.

968

:

And, and it was, it had even actually been

not salvaged, but it had been in a wreck.

969

:

That's why it was so

cheap to me to begin with.

970

:

I just paid cash for the next piece

of shit car I got after that, which

971

:

was a Chevy and had no resale value.

972

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Right.

973

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: But

I've got, Subaru's Japanese, I think,

974

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Yeah, it is.

975

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

Yeah, they, they, it's like

976

:

more than what I owe on it.

977

:

So I was like, God damn, that is tempting.

978

:

But then I just have to get another car.

979

:

Although here trucks rain from the sky.

980

:

I think it's all the farms.

981

:

There's like 2023.

982

:

Chevys for sale for $12,000.

983

:

Everywhere you look,

984

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah.

985

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

it's weird, although I look at that and

986

:

go like, I wouldn't want that thing.

987

:

So maybe it's not that weird.

988

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Right.

989

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

I don't want a:

990

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513:

Hi, wind.

991

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Can.

992

:

Did you hear Oscar screaming behind me?

993

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I did,

994

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: He,

995

:

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I.

996

:

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513:

outside the door.

997

:

What are you doing in there?

998

:

Who are you talking to?

999

:

Are you making friends?

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00:41:24,669 --> 00:41:25,374

You made a friend.

:

00:41:25,374 --> 00:41:26,244

That's not me.

:

00:41:26,644 --> 00:41:29,134

-:

Linda just went from being very up

:

00:41:29,134 --> 00:41:32,854

and energetic and moving around to

just laying in one spot and sleeping.

:

00:41:33,254 --> 00:41:36,258

So she hasn't eaten in two days.

:

00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:37,938

We're gonna take her to the bed on Monday.

:

00:41:38,208 --> 00:41:40,888

Yeah, she seems to be physically okay.

:

00:41:40,888 --> 00:41:42,388

So she's drinking water.

:

00:41:42,388 --> 00:41:42,988

She's peeing.

:

00:41:42,988 --> 00:41:43,648

Okay.

:

00:41:44,048 --> 00:41:48,518

You know, she just doesn't seem interested

in food, which she has done before.

:

00:41:48,918 --> 00:41:52,158

But I mean, usually you can trick

her or at least entice her with

:

00:41:52,158 --> 00:41:53,688

like chicken nuggets or something.

:

00:41:54,078 --> 00:41:56,328

And she just wanted

none of that yesterday.

:

00:41:56,638 --> 00:41:59,548

I gave her some sugar water

in case her sugar was too low.

:

00:41:59,848 --> 00:42:01,048

'cause it had been a while.

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00:42:01,448 --> 00:42:01,988

I don't know.

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00:42:02,388 --> 00:42:04,645

-:

Oh, it's, it's going around.

:

00:42:04,645 --> 00:42:05,455

I don't like it.

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00:42:05,855 --> 00:42:09,375

People's all, we are all so

old that our pets are old.

:

00:42:09,878 --> 00:42:10,168

-:

:

00:42:10,532 --> 00:42:12,702

-:

because you kind of, it's started to

:

00:42:12,702 --> 00:42:14,412

feel personal actually for a while there,

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00:42:14,492 --> 00:42:14,782

-:

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00:42:15,182 --> 00:42:16,832

-:

I'm sick, mom is sick.

:

00:42:17,222 --> 00:42:22,052

The, I know, uh, two people

who lost pets in the past year.

:

00:42:22,452 --> 00:42:27,222

Three people now, and I'm like,

what the fuck is happening universe?

:

00:42:27,222 --> 00:42:28,212

Take it easy, man.

:

00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:28,782

And I'm like, wait a minute.

:

00:42:28,782 --> 00:42:29,622

No, I'm just old.

:

00:42:29,622 --> 00:42:33,942

When you, as you get older, that shit

starts to happen with more regularity.

:

00:42:34,272 --> 00:42:37,422

And then I start to think like, has

this, is this what happened to my

:

00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:38,862

parents, to the generation before?

:

00:42:38,862 --> 00:42:42,012

It's like they reached an age where

everybody just started dying on them.

:

00:42:42,037 --> 00:42:42,327

-:

:

00:42:42,727 --> 00:42:43,017

Dude.

:

00:42:43,097 --> 00:42:45,977

I went from having 19

aunts and uncles to having.

:

00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:47,800

Basically two left.

:

00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,140

I have my one, one aunt that

I haven't ever seen since

:

00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:51,520

I was like three years old.

:

00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,090

And then my mom's sister, who I went

and saw like a couple of months ago

:

00:42:55,630 --> 00:42:59,020

but they were estranged a lot of my

childhood, my mom and her sister.

:

00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:01,510

But that's pretty much all

the family I have besides my

:

00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:03,070

sister who isn't talking to me,

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00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:03,820

-:

Well, I.

:

00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:07,730

And if the world's gonna go to shit,

I guess we got no other excuses than

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00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:09,470

to just do whatever we feel like

:

00:43:10,153 --> 00:43:10,853

-:

Hi PITA.

:

00:43:11,113 --> 00:43:12,913

-:

There's a, there's a job there

:

00:43:12,913 --> 00:43:16,343

at B-G-S-U-I might apply to.

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00:43:16,343 --> 00:43:17,453

It's in communications though,

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00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:18,053

-:

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00:43:18,113 --> 00:43:18,323

-:

:

00:43:18,723 --> 00:43:19,298

-:

well come on.

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00:43:19,698 --> 00:43:21,868

-:

Uh, yeah, you know what's funny is

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00:43:21,868 --> 00:43:26,998

like when I left there, I was like,

I would move back to Jellico before I

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00:43:26,998 --> 00:43:28,918

would come back to Bowling Green, Ohio,

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00:43:28,978 --> 00:43:29,578

-:

:

00:43:29,978 --> 00:43:31,868

-:

which is still actually kind of true.

:

00:43:31,868 --> 00:43:37,568

I don't think I would live in BG again,

but, you know, I would live nearby.

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00:43:37,568 --> 00:43:41,198

I would live somewhere that

had culture and stuff in it.

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00:43:41,598 --> 00:43:44,898

Uh, probably, you know, if there

were things to do that I liked,

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00:43:45,138 --> 00:43:48,378

'cause there's stuff there that

I, I did really like, I liked.

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00:43:48,708 --> 00:43:50,508

Being able to take my bike places.

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00:43:50,508 --> 00:43:52,488

I liked being able to go outside

:

00:43:52,698 --> 00:43:54,468

-:

The Toledo area has the number one

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00:43:54,468 --> 00:43:56,073

park system in the United States.

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00:43:56,473 --> 00:43:57,073

-:

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00:43:57,073 --> 00:43:57,313

Yeah.

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00:43:57,313 --> 00:44:01,373

There was a lot of beauty

there for it to be flat.

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00:44:01,403 --> 00:44:01,643

Right.

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00:44:01,643 --> 00:44:02,783

That kind of surprised me.

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00:44:02,783 --> 00:44:06,533

'cause, but there, like right in

the, the Black Swamp area or in the

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00:44:06,533 --> 00:44:08,723

BG area, it's god awful looking.

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00:44:08,723 --> 00:44:09,083

Right.

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00:44:09,083 --> 00:44:13,193

It that is not a cute town, but you

get outside of it and start venturing

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00:44:13,193 --> 00:44:18,643

a little bit you know, going uh,

over into Michigan and stuff like,

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00:44:19,093 --> 00:44:24,013

it's definitely like around the

college has some interesting spots.

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00:44:24,058 --> 00:44:24,268

-:

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00:44:24,268 --> 00:44:25,093

Lots of potential.

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00:44:25,697 --> 00:44:27,467

-:

you bring a noun of Appalachian interest?

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00:44:28,337 --> 00:44:29,202

-:

let me pull it up here.

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00:44:29,602 --> 00:44:30,022

All right.

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00:44:30,052 --> 00:44:34,312

Um, this week's noun of Appalachian

interest is Loretta Lynn.

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00:44:34,732 --> 00:44:38,422

Now, when we talk about Appalachian

icons, there are a few names that

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00:44:38,422 --> 00:44:42,142

come up every single time, and one

of them, whether you grew up on

:

00:44:42,142 --> 00:44:44,542

country music or not, is Loretta Lynn.

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00:44:44,942 --> 00:44:48,962

Loretta Lynn was born in a place called

Butcher Hollow, Kentucky, which first

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00:44:48,962 --> 00:44:52,922

of all sounds made up, but it's very

real and very Appalachian Butcher

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00:44:52,922 --> 00:44:56,702

holler is how you would, should pop

properly, say that she grew up poor,

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00:44:56,702 --> 00:44:58,562

like cold min's, daughter poor.

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00:44:58,562 --> 00:45:01,562

And that's not just a song

that was her actual life.

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00:45:01,802 --> 00:45:03,092

Her daddy worked in the mines.

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00:45:03,092 --> 00:45:06,362

Her mama raised a whole house full

of kids, and money was always tight.

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00:45:06,762 --> 00:45:09,552

And if you know anything about

Appalachia, you know that that kind

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00:45:09,552 --> 00:45:13,002

of upbringing doesn't just shape

your life, it shapes your voice.

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00:45:13,302 --> 00:45:16,932

Loretta didn't come into music

the way a lot of people do now.

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00:45:17,142 --> 00:45:20,592

There wasn't some big plan or

industry connection waiting on her.

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00:45:20,832 --> 00:45:25,392

She got married at 14, had four

kids by 18, and somewhere along

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00:45:25,392 --> 00:45:28,662

the way her husband bought her a

guitar, and that was kind of it.

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00:45:28,898 --> 00:45:33,098

She taught herself how to play and started

writing songs about what she knew at the

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00:45:33,098 --> 00:45:37,208

time that wasn't what women in country

music were supposed to be singing about.

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00:45:37,508 --> 00:45:41,408

She talked about marriage not always

being great about men acting up,

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00:45:41,408 --> 00:45:45,518

about women being tired about birth

control and about double standards

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00:45:45,518 --> 00:45:48,848

that everybody knew existed, but

nobody wanted to say out loud.

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00:45:49,248 --> 00:45:51,108

And the people lost their minds.

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00:45:51,318 --> 00:45:52,638

Radio stations banned.

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00:45:52,638 --> 00:45:53,688

Some of her songs.

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00:45:53,868 --> 00:45:56,658

Folks said she was too

much, too blunt, too honest.

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00:45:56,868 --> 00:45:59,418

But here's the thing, she

wasn't making anything up.

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00:45:59,718 --> 00:46:03,498

She was just saying out loud what a lot

of Appalachian women were already living,

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00:46:03,828 --> 00:46:05,178

and that's what made her different.

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00:46:05,478 --> 00:46:08,598

She didn't try to smooth things

over or make them sound pretty.

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00:46:08,808 --> 00:46:12,858

She told the truth in a way that was

funny, sharp, and just a little different.

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00:46:13,188 --> 00:46:16,488

You could hear it in songs like The

Pill where she openly talks about

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00:46:16,488 --> 00:46:20,358

taking control of her own body, which

at the time was a wild thing to say

:

00:46:20,358 --> 00:46:25,158

in country music or don't come home

and drinking with flu on your mind,

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00:46:25,158 --> 00:46:26,928

which was exactly what it sounds like.

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00:46:27,328 --> 00:46:31,588

She recorded a long run of duets with

Conway Twitty and the two of them together

:

00:46:31,588 --> 00:46:35,638

had a kind of back and forth that felt

a whole lot like real conversation,

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00:46:35,878 --> 00:46:38,188

funny, a little messy and very human.

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00:46:38,608 --> 00:46:42,118

And even though Loretta became a

huge star, grand Ole Opry Awards,

:

00:46:42,118 --> 00:46:45,148

all of it, she never really

let go of where she came from.

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00:46:45,358 --> 00:46:48,898

She kept the accent, she kept the

stories, and she kept the point of view.

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00:46:49,198 --> 00:46:52,648

And that matters because a lot of

times when people make it out, they

:

00:46:52,648 --> 00:46:56,278

get polished into something easier for

the rest of the country to understand.

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00:46:56,638 --> 00:46:57,778

Loretta didn't do that.

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00:46:57,778 --> 00:47:01,708

She brought Appalachia with her, and in

doing that, she made space for a whole lot

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00:47:01,708 --> 00:47:03,838

of other voices to come through after her.

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00:47:04,228 --> 00:47:08,158

So when you hear her music, yeah, it's

country, but it's also labor history,

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00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:11,778

women's history, and Appalachian

history, all wrapped up in a voice that

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00:47:11,778 --> 00:47:14,898

sounds like it's telling you something

straight across the kitchen table.

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00:47:15,138 --> 00:47:18,139

And that's Loretta Lynn, not

just a singer, a storyteller

:

00:47:18,139 --> 00:47:19,489

who didn't ask permission.

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00:47:19,889 --> 00:47:20,109

-:

:

00:47:20,732 --> 00:47:23,492

Did you see, have you seen

the Coal Miner's daughter?

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00:47:23,717 --> 00:47:26,207

-:

long time ago, I need to rewatch it

:

00:47:26,537 --> 00:47:28,127

because I have a different lens on it.

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00:47:28,527 --> 00:47:28,887

-:

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00:47:28,917 --> 00:47:29,847

Right, exactly.

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00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:30,657

I totally recommend

:

00:47:30,852 --> 00:47:31,392

-:

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00:47:31,792 --> 00:47:35,042

-:

the way that they portray the relationship

:

00:47:35,042 --> 00:47:41,061

between her as a child and her husband,

who is a full grown man, they really show

:

00:47:41,061 --> 00:47:44,511

like the differences in their maturity

and what that power dynamic is like.

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00:47:44,871 --> 00:47:45,351

I don't know.

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00:47:45,351 --> 00:47:48,951

I, I found, I, I think it is,

it is a really good movie.

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00:47:49,101 --> 00:47:52,732

I think it overshadows the Patsy

Cline movie Sweet Dreams a little bit,

:

00:47:53,062 --> 00:47:59,049

which does that, but with the fraught

nature of domestic violence and how,

:

00:47:59,449 --> 00:48:05,779

ingrained DV was into our notions of

what romantic love was supposed to be.

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00:48:06,029 --> 00:48:09,629

I don't, I wanna say back then, because

I, I can't, I would not speak for the

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00:48:09,629 --> 00:48:11,849

whole country, but in Appalachia anyway.

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00:48:11,999 --> 00:48:12,199

-:

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00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,159

-:

But yeah, like there's, there's the

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00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:17,189

stuff with like, for instance, on their

honeymoon, she doesn't want to have sex

:

00:48:17,189 --> 00:48:21,809

because she still is so young that she

thinks of sex as something shameful.

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00:48:22,064 --> 00:48:22,544

-:

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00:48:22,944 --> 00:48:24,834

Well, and it's totally realistic.

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00:48:24,834 --> 00:48:28,584

My stepmother was 14, the first time she

got married and started having babies.

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00:48:28,974 --> 00:48:32,304

So, you know, and she was from

Virginia, a little town called

:

00:48:32,304 --> 00:48:34,374

Grit, Virginia of all places.

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00:48:34,774 --> 00:48:35,794

-:

That's why people used to go to

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00:48:35,804 --> 00:48:37,714

Jellico was to get married at 14.

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00:48:38,324 --> 00:48:42,411

' cause you, they, you could get married

there under 16, which was I believe

:

00:48:42,411 --> 00:48:45,481

the age of consent in most areas.

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00:48:45,481 --> 00:48:46,531

Definitely in Kentucky.

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00:48:46,931 --> 00:48:47,681

I don't know why.

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00:48:47,801 --> 00:48:51,671

So I think people from neighboring

states that had that age of consent,

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00:48:51,671 --> 00:48:55,721

they would come across the border to

Jellico, which also had a pretty big

:

00:48:55,721 --> 00:49:00,071

population at the time because of the

mines and it being actually fairly rich.

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00:49:00,071 --> 00:49:02,351

It was, it was kind of like

Vegas or Atlantic City.

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00:49:02,801 --> 00:49:04,121

They had a movie theater.

:

00:49:04,121 --> 00:49:05,171

It was rich as hell.

:

00:49:05,351 --> 00:49:07,311

They were famous people from Jellico.

:

00:49:07,451 --> 00:49:12,401

Grace Moore was this like really

famous silent era film star.

:

00:49:12,601 --> 00:49:15,031

So they called Jellico,

the Hollywood of the South.

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00:49:15,296 --> 00:49:15,676

-:

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00:49:15,991 --> 00:49:17,911

-:

For a very brief moment.

:

00:49:17,911 --> 00:49:21,421

It was very influential and affluent.

:

00:49:21,821 --> 00:49:25,892

So yeah, it became a lot like an

Appalachian, Vegas or Atlantic

:

00:49:25,892 --> 00:49:27,282

City for a short amount of time.

:

00:49:27,682 --> 00:49:29,182

-:

Portsmouth had a heyday like that too.

:

00:49:29,182 --> 00:49:33,562

We had one of the first NFL

teams in, in the area in NFL.

:

00:49:33,952 --> 00:49:36,209

Jim Thorpe, who was a very

famous football player, was a

:

00:49:36,209 --> 00:49:38,239

Portsmouth Spartan for 10, games.

:

00:49:38,554 --> 00:49:39,604

-:

those signs.

:

00:49:39,864 --> 00:49:40,944

First time I went out there,

:

00:49:41,229 --> 00:49:41,619

-:

:

00:49:42,019 --> 00:49:45,014

-:

there's a Portsmouth in, in England.

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00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:46,139

-:

And in New Hampshire.

:

00:49:46,139 --> 00:49:47,159

And in Rhode Island

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00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:49,479

-:

Portsmouth, Virginia.

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00:49:49,669 --> 00:49:50,874

-:

in Portsmouth, Virginia.

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00:49:50,964 --> 00:49:51,504

Yes.

:

00:49:51,904 --> 00:49:53,944

-:

is it so hard to get the one I want?

:

00:49:54,344 --> 00:49:56,384

-:

nobody wants to go to Portsmouth, Ohio.

:

00:49:56,399 --> 00:49:58,637

Not even, not even Google.

:

00:49:59,424 --> 00:49:59,844

-:

There we go.

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00:50:00,371 --> 00:50:00,821

Yeah.

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00:50:01,221 --> 00:50:05,064

That whole region, like the

Shenandoah Valley it had a lot

:

00:50:05,064 --> 00:50:11,334

of pockets of affluence of the

resources that it, it that were

:

00:50:11,394 --> 00:50:13,434

extracted from the mountains there.

:

00:50:13,684 --> 00:50:19,384

But it was so short lived because

of the way that acute version of

:

00:50:19,834 --> 00:50:23,464

like high octane capitalism that

cannibalized itself really quickly.

:

00:50:23,864 --> 00:50:27,954

Like the, for instance, the way

the, the companies Angelico, they

:

00:50:27,954 --> 00:50:29,814

all just ate each other until now.

:

00:50:29,814 --> 00:50:30,714

It's one big company.

:

00:50:30,714 --> 00:50:32,994

There were no competing companies anymore.

:

00:50:32,994 --> 00:50:41,104

So that part of a company town's history,

it, it ends very fast because it is

:

00:50:41,104 --> 00:50:45,304

pure capitalism, which means whoever

has the most capital is going to win.

:

00:50:45,304 --> 00:50:46,444

Nobody can fight that.

:

00:50:46,844 --> 00:50:48,619

I forget what I was gonna tell you.

:

00:50:49,019 --> 00:50:53,399

Oh, the Patsy Cline documentary though,

not documentary, uh, what's it called?

:

00:50:53,429 --> 00:50:55,589

Biopic Sweet Dreams.

:

00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:57,849

It was when I fell in

love with Jessica Lang.

:

00:50:57,969 --> 00:51:02,379

So that was my first like, big crush on

Jessica Lang, who she did an incredible

:

00:51:02,379 --> 00:51:04,019

job playing, paying Patsy Cline.

:

00:51:04,219 --> 00:51:04,639

-:

:

00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:05,159

-:

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00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:07,209

-:

My grandparents really liked her too.

:

00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,369

My grandma's favorite

was George Jones, though.

:

00:51:09,609 --> 00:51:12,249

She had a crush on

George Jones for forever.

:

00:51:12,649 --> 00:51:15,789

-:

I really liked Hank Williams, senior.

:

00:51:16,189 --> 00:51:20,359

But he has actually kind of a small

body of work because he died so young.

:

00:51:20,809 --> 00:51:23,389

He was 29, I think, when he died.

:

00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:25,349

And he died on the road.

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Like he still wasn't, he, he didn't

become a big name until after he

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in West Virginia, if you didn't know that.

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I I did know that.

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Like he was in, he was

in somebody's backseat,

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dying of alcoholism.

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One time I was,

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I was supposed to be researching a

paper and went down a whole rabbit

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hole about Hank Williams senior

and how he died and all that.

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because he was, he would have

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died in Tennessee, right?

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was supposed to go on a tour, or he was

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on tour and was supposed to go to his

next show, but that show got canceled,

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so they were gonna stay in Tennessee, and

then last minute they booked another one.

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So he died on the way

to it in West Virginia.

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Can you imagine being on death's

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door and still trying to go to work?

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mean, that's the American dream, isn't it?

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That's what they do.

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Not me.

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I'll die alone in my

goblin house if I have to.

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One day it'll be spring.

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Well today it's technically spring.

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Already.

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It is.

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The

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was yesterday.

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It's the, what's it called?

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Solstice.

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The, well, the Equinox, the

summer Equinox or spring Equinox.

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well, we get off of here?

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as Vanessa says.

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sounds good to me.

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listeners, let us know if you have seen

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Coal Miner's Daughter or Sweet Dreams and

which is your favorite, if you have one.

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When did you fall in love

with, uh, Jessica Lang?

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'cause I know that we all did.

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Maybe that's a movie we could review

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I haven't seen it since I

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was a long, a long time ago.

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I was a kid when I probably When I saw it.

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Cold Miner's Daughter

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Coal Miner's Daughter or Sweet

Dreams either would be fine with me.

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I've never seen the Sweet Dreams one.

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I have that one memorized, but I

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have not seen Cold Miner's daughter,

uh, in a really long time, and I,

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I only saw it the once and so I

never have remembered it very well.

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So yeah, that would be fun.

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We could, we could, uh, look at them.

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We could watch them both and do

not compare and contrast, but just

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like talk about them together.

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you know that Crystal Gale is

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loretta Lynn.

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Sister.

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Yeah.

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I did not know that until I was

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doing the research for today.

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I was like, ah, do you remember

Crystal Gale with her real long hair?

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learned that in college, I think,

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because I had a friend who was big

into, I didn't really listen to her

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00:53:39,689 --> 00:53:44,499

music either, but, I, you kind of

know who they all are, you know?

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So I still, I don't think I

could name any of her thing.

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00:53:49,139 --> 00:53:53,599

Uh, things probably like OU Harris

better than of course, she's more recent.

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Well, yeah, let's do that then.

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That sounds like

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Sounds like a plan.

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All right.

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Well, be safe out there.

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If you wanna get in touch with us, send

us an email at mailbag@queernecks.com.

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Or you can find our.

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Uh, what's it called?

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00:54:13,099 --> 00:54:16,609

Newsletter on Substack,

the Queernecks Newsletter.

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00:54:17,009 --> 00:54:20,079

Got uh, some in there every Wednesday.

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00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:26,269

Uh, just a little tidbits and expanding on

some things or the noun will be in there.

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00:54:26,669 --> 00:54:31,619

And if you wanna support us with

money, we technically have a Ko-Fi.

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00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:33,709

We just don't promote it and don't use it.

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00:54:34,109 --> 00:54:37,889

If you want to help us get famous now

that I'm unemployed, that would be great.

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' cause I don't know what else to do.

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Except for keep making this

show because I love it.

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All right, well, we love y'all too.

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Say hi to you, mom and 'em.

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