Episode 15

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Published on:

8th Sep 2025

How Dare You Call Me A Slur I've Never Heard

The Wheel of What-Have-You was basically forgotten this episode in favor of some reminiscing and jawing about cultural theory, intersectionality, power and privilege, and why you should never date a graduate student. It was Beck's birthday last week and she came back a blistered lobster, but that only made her funnier. Remember to visit us on social media @queernecks and send us an email if you have a story to tell or idea to share at mailbag@queernecks.com.

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Birthday Recap

00:50 Sunburn Stories and Swimming Adventures

03:05 Haunted Spaghetti and Food Talk

04:56 Cooking Memories and Recipes

08:35 Homelessness and Bowling Alley Job

15:12 Teaching Challenges and Social Justice

22:43 Hijinks and Childhood Memories

24:02 Childhood Games and Cousin Memories

25:14 Family Dynamics and Growing Up

26:19 Adventures and Mishaps

26:26 Drinking Stories and Party Days

30:16 Gift Giving and Love Languages

33:35 Social Media and Online Presence

38:38 Sponsor

41:51 Noun of Appalachian Interest

45:30 Conclusion and Future Plans

Transcript
Speaker:

Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that

puts the yehaw in y'all means hall.

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I'm your host, Beck, and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

So you had a good birthday.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: It

was, the day was wonderful.

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The aftermath has been very painful.

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I got not only a chest cold, but

blisters upon blisters on my shoulders.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: You're so shiny.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I know.

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And red, my eyes were swollen from

this, like my eyelids were burnt.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh God.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

were swollen from being burnt.

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It was bad.

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And I have new blisters today.

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Like why do four days

later do I have blisters?

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That doesn't make sense to me.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I think, I

mean, it just sounds like you, you got it.

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Good.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I don't

know why, but I always get real

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embarrassed anytime I get a sunburn.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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I went and got my hair cut on

Tuesday and my, uh, the lady that

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cuts my hair totally roasted me.

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' cause we had sunscreen with us.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Just didn't

put off enough on or forgot it or,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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Pretty much.

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It was like, it was just an overcast day

and it wasn't very hot and just, you know,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: mm.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

it would be fine and stupid.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

Was it the middle of the day

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: was it,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

there at like:

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: oh, the,

that's when the sun is highest

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you got there, like right when

the sun was directly overhead.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: We

stayed in the water the whole time.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: And that,

well this could be a, an old I've heard,

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and I believe experienced the water

amplifying the sun's effect on skin.

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because you can start a fire with a bag

of water, like zip a Ziploc bag of water.

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Do you know that if you

hold it in the sun, right?

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Yeah.

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That's a, that's a like survivalist,

fire starting technique is to, well The

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one I saw was this guy peed in a bag,

but, and you hold it above like dried

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tender and it's like a magnifying glass.

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The sun will start it if it's dry enough.

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one time I went swimming and it was

early afternoon and, I was putting

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on what I thought was suntan lotion.

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And this was back, this in the two

thousands, everyone wanted to look

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orange, like the Paris Hiltons and

you know, like that that bunch.

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And there was a, product called

tanning accelerator or accelerant.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: And I

guess it's sort of like putting

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olive oil on meat before you put

it in, you know, like crisps it up.

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And that's what I was putting on, not, so

I left and I start, I was feeling weird.

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I knew, I was like, something's wrong.

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I'm just real hot or something.

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And was with this girl I

was dating at the time and.

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We got in the car and I just looked

down at my arm and I was like, what?

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I'm purple.

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My skin had turned purple.

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and you could tell that it was like

the blood up underneath the skin and

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I was like, something is real bad.

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Wrong.

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And by that evening,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: now.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: yeah,

by that evening, that's the

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worst sunburn I've ever had.

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And it has made me, I have an abundance

of caution around the sun right now,

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and I don't even burn that easy.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah.

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Neither do I.

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I had some virgin skin showing,

I don't really wear bathing

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suit parts very out very often.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

Where'd y'all go?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: the

Mamee Bay State Park, their lodge,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

have a really a, a nice pool.

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we went there and swam for the day, and

then we went and got haunted spaghetti

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at the spaghetti warehouse in Toledo.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Okay.

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So what is haunted spaghetti?

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Because I, I, you were sick and we were

texting, so I didn't ask you at the

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time, but what is haunted spaghetti?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: The, the

spaghetti warehouse, the restaurant

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itself is supposedly haunted and

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Hmm.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: really creepy.

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It's real dark in there, and there's

like a subway car that there's

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seating inside of it, and there's

like a, a giant wooden Indian and

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just random artifacts that make, and

it just feels real spooky in there.

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It

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Nice.

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The food was good.

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The f they, they brought all

the fresh bread we could eat.

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Little loaves of bread.

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We killed it.

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our one friend got chicken, Alfredo.

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Shanna got baked ziti and I got spaghetti

with meat sauce it was all delicious

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I think I

might actually fix some spaghetti.

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I've been eating the same pot of

beans for a week it's nice 'cause

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they don't go bad for hardly anything.

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You can, if you cook 'em, if

you cook a pot of beans, they'll

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stay good for a long time.

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But then, you know, it's hard to

make just a small amount of beans.

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And so now I'm like a little over it.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: next thing

I fix, I'm gonna be carb loading.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah.

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We make spaghetti,

sauce and giant batches.

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enough to make six nights worth of dinner.

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We get, we do the night that we make it,

and then we get five for the freezer.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

You gave me some one time.

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I remember Now, don't you make

yours, uh, you put butter in it?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Uh,

that's, that's one way to make it.

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It's an onion butter, tomato sauce.

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That's,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: spaghetti.

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That's not my spaghetti that I make.

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my spaghetti is a meat sauce and it has

like uh, green bell peppers and garlic

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and, crushed tomatoes and everything.

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Gr uh, toasted garlic.

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And I put all those

things in my spaghetti.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: the

other one, it was a New York Times.

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It was like a sensation.

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A lot of people made it.

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It was basically you

brown an onion in butter

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: added

tomatoes to it and crushed it, and

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made a sauce, and it was delicious.

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You make it with angel hair.

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Pasta is fantastic.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah, I

remember you gave me, because you

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made a big batch of it and you,

you gave me a Tupperware of it.

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What was the first thing

you learned to cook?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

Uh, probably chili because my

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didn't go all out.

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It was basically hamburger, a can

of beans and a packet of seasoning.

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And that was pretty much her chili.

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you made it with peanut butter sandwiches

and it was, that was what it was.

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I still make it that way, but

I add, I added extra beans and

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tomatoes and a onion and, you know,

added more beef and less liquid.

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and then probably spaghetti is the

second thing I learned to make.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah, I

think, I remember my mom, she taught

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me her spaghetti meat sauce recipe.

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And, um, I still make that one.

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I also have a, uh, creamy

mushroom, sauce I like to make.

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and obviously cooking

can mean a lot of things.

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So the first thing I cooked was

probably just boiling water and

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putting ramen noodle packets in it.

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Or grilled cheese.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: yeah,

that was, I cooked that one

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for David and Vanessa a lot.

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and then I, we had pot pies

and I would, I would fix those.

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the very first cooking I did

probably wasn't what I would

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consider cooking now, even though

it's still, we were feeding people.

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So, but actual recipe, it was

mom, she taught me her biscuits

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recipe, her cornbread recipe,

and her, spaghetti meat sauce.

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And my dad taught me his chili recipe.

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He cooked actually quite a bit too.

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she usually fixed most of the, the meals.

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Her schedule was more his, his was so

under like, uh, irregular, but when

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he did cook, you know, I mean, he,

he had his things he would make too,

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and he really loved to make chili.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah.

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My dad did too.

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That's a coincidence.

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But he would put like

14 kinds of meat in it.

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He'd have like sausages and,

every, he'd put everything in it.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I

actually recently started, I

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don't, I'm not gonna say recently,

because I'm, I'm in my forties.

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This was probably about 15

years, maybe 20 years ago now.

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But I think I reached a certain

age where I started to want

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to embellish my dad's recipe.

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Um, and so I started putting in like,

uh, equal parts, like either, Italian

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sausage or andouille sometimes,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: and, I

started making the, the, It's

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not stock, but the liquidy part

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: My dad

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: with,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: black coffee.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I

used, Guinness, like dark beer.

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It's just got that, all that

yeast and, and flavor like the

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barley and wheat and stuff in it.

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And, V eight juice.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

Sounds interesting.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

particular about sausage.

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I can't eat most of it.

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I'm just

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh, really?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: about it.

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Yeah.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Is it texture?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: and yeah.

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It's, it's real, it's a no for me dog.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Uh, we

grew up eating bologna a lot and now

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I don't care for bologna that much.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: me neither.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: And

it's, it is also like, I'm, I

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just don't care for that texture.

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It's, it's a flat hotdog.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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I don't eat either of 'em, so.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh yeah.

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We ate a lot of ine sausages.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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We ate a lot of, there was a restaurant

that delivered called Jim Dandy, and

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they had what the, a little special

called a Big Mo and a Coke, and

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they were for a dollar, you got a, a

cheeseburger and a a, coke for a dollar,

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and they would deliver and we would

order like 20 of 'em and we would chow

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: do you remember

when McDonald's did the 29 cent hamburger?

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Wednesdays?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yep.

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I sure do.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I

worked at McDonald's when they

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started those, and it was bonkers.

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People were coming through buying 60

to a hundred hamburgers at a time.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: That's crazy.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

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Uh, and they, I come to find out

like what they were doing was

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freezing them and thawing 'em out

and eating them throughout the week.

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Or taking 'em to school in their, the kids

would take 'em to school for their lunch.

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But yeah, that very first day I was

working in the, at the McDonald's

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in Williamsburg, they made us

make hundreds of hamburgers.

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Like we, we had extra people on

shift just to churn out hamburgers

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and I, it, it was surreal.

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They were mountains of

hamburgers everywhere.

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it, it's, I don't know, I don't think

I'll ever see anything like that again.

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Actually, no, that's not true because

one time when I was, so, this time

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I was like homeless as an adult.

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I dropped outta college and, didn't

want to admit that I had done it.

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So I.

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got in my metro and drove

out to Western Kentucky.

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Had a high school friend that

lived out there and was, I was

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sleeping on her couch for a while.

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But it was one of those, It wasn't

really a dorm, but it was like

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leased through the university

that she attended type of thing.

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And so her roommates told on me,

and as they should, you know, like

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I wasn't paying money to be there,

you know, I shouldn't have been

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sleeping on their couch, but I

didn't have anywhere else to sleep.

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So I was sleeping in my car for a while.

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This is how I got into

working at Bowling Alleys.

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There's a bowling alley in,

Western Kentucky and Bowling Green

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called Crescent Bowling Alley.

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And a lot of semi-trucks would

leave, would park there overnight.

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The long haul truckers would park there.

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So I would just stick

my car in between 'em.

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And I lived in that parking lot for.

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A couple weeks and I would go in, in

the morning, take my toothbrush in there

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and like wash and stuff when they open.

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'cause that they opened at like

9:00 AM And so to like, kind of

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as a ruse to be, to go in there.

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I would ask the owner at the time,

the general manager and owner was

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this gigantic dude named Teddy.

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And he was always there and

I would say, Hey, you hiring?

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And then go on to the bathroom

and like clean up and stuff.

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And one day I walked in and he had

paperwork sitting out and he was like,

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fill this out, can you start today?

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I wasn't even really trying

to find a job at the time.

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I was 19 years old, I wasn't

putting it together that I

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was not in a good situation.

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I was still like, this is fine.

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I had a bunch of, dried, box food,

from Save-A-Lot, like the mac

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and cheese things or whatever.

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water is always boiling, so if you

just put that stuff in water, I'd

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sit it in the dash of the car and

it would be soft after 20 minutes.

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Just takes longer.

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So I was, I thought I was just

kind of having a little adventure.

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but he put me on.

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The snack bar.

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I could make tips that way,

he was like, you can get some

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tips in your pocket this way.

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people would do birthday parties

At bowling alleys, you know

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this like everywhere that, that

they had something like that.

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Yeah.

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Well, somebody booked one with us.

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It was huge.

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We made hundreds of hot dogs and

hamburgers and they just never showed up.

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We don't know if it was

like a prank or what.

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we were stuck at this bowling

alley at, at closing time with

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mountains of hamburgers and hot dogs.

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And me and this other guy who was the

mechanic that night, we just bought them

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all from the bowling alley for like 50

bucks a piece put them in his freezer and

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that, we ate that for like six months.

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and I got scurvy.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: That's

not something you hear in:

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Very often

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

That is a redneck

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I didn't even believe the doctor when,

because I was starting to get like weirdly

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sick and lost a shit load of weight.

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And my, you know, teeth were like hurting

and my gums were like receding and stuff,

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and I had sores in my mouth and I went to

the doctor and they're like, you have not

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a stitch of vitamin C in your whole body.

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When's the last time you ate a fruit?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

you are like:

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: last night.

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But I didn't catch your name.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Ha ha ha.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Ha.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: That's funny.

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I just, McDonald's is not good.

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Cold.

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I can't imagine reheated.

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It would be much better,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: but I

do have a thing for, I love cold

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leftovers now though, I just have a

thing for cold french fries or any

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kind of fried potato outta the fridge.

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I won't heat it up.

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I just love to eat 'em cold.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: huh?

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' dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

cause that was safe food.

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If you are, if you're scavenging

food, if it's been in a refrigerator,

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it's safer than, you know, I've

eaten pizza outta trash cans too.

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you're really taking a gamble on that.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: right.

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Come here, Wenda.

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On.

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Hello.

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She's been in a hyper mood

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

She got the Zoomies

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Uh, what passes

for Zoomies for a 14-year-old pug mix?

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She doesn't move a whole lot,

but she's been energetic.

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She's barked a lot today.

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She scares you to death because she

doesn't have much hearing left, and you

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come in the door and she'll be asleep on

the couch and she won't move a muscle.

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And it's like she's laying there and we're

just like, I have to go over and like,

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shake her to make sure she's still alive.

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My face is so shiny.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

It's kind of purple too, like

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: on,

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on my back.

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It's, there are purple splotches.

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I got a blister on this shoulder over

here today, and it's like the size of a

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dime and puffed up, like a marshmallow.

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It's disgusting.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

That's incredible, dude.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: wife has

to help me put my bra on because of

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the ones like I just keep blistering.

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to help me dry off out of the shower

today, so I didn't burst 'em all open.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

you gotta wipe it.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: who's

willing to do gross things.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

She works at a nursing home.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: You're ready?

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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:

down for whatever.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

Well, she loves you

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: and she did

that to you because I know, I know.

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It wasn't you that was like, let's

go out and hang out in the sun.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

Well, no, 'cause I wanted to go

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swimming and we were gonna go to

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh, okay.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: 'cause

it was a little bit colder.

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I hadn't been swimming in a

couple of years and I just had

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the urge to be submerged in water.

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I just wanted to float.

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I wanted to take the pressure

off my body for a little bit.

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it's been in the seventies or the, the

high sixties for like three weeks now.

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And it was like almost

too cold to go swimming.

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But the water was so warm.

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Oh.

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It was like bath water.

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It was fantastic.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

it was 45 here today.

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Um, and windy, yeah.

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It's too early for this shit.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: You

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: keep,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: here.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

I think it got up to 50.

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Not long ago, I was wearing like

a flannel and a jacket over it and

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a, beanie when I went on my walk.

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And I just, I, I think the older I get,

my joints, they don't like the cold,

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so what am I,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: that, my friend.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I know

I'm gonna get, I'm determined

386

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to get a winter sport though.

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some sort of winter activity, one I want

to learn about hockey, don't necessarily

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wanna play it, but I want to understand

it and, and, you know, maybe get a team

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to follow or something, you know, like

I haven't followed a sport in forever.

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That would be fun.

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And I, I think that that's the one

that they, that folks follow here.

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' I mean, they have a, pro football

team, but I don't see people going

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around like y are vikings, you know,

they're not that, it's not that

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football e here and maybe the Vikings

just aren't that good of a team.

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but it's, I think it may be cultural,

because the college ball's not

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that big of a deal here either.

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:

The gophers are the, the Minnesota team,

and I think they're Big 10 is there, if

398

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I'm wrong, there'll be somebody in the

comments telling me and that's cool.

399

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but that's my only reference to sports is.

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college and professional football,

and I just need to branch out.

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I need to see what they're into here.

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So I'm gonna, I've decided

I'm gonna learn about hockey,

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: You are

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I

don't, yeah, I'm gonna assimilate.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

I sound so rattly.

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:

I know it was really

tough to lecture today.

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:

I had two classes and we were talking

about the second wave of feminism

408

:

and it was just like, I don't care.

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I don't feel good.

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I don't wanna be here.

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:

I'm sunburned and blistered

and my, I'm coughing and, you

412

:

know, blowing my nose every five

minutes and I just wanna go home.

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:

But we got through it and we had a pretty

good discussion today, so that was good.

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:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: You

wanna hear something weird?

415

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the class that I don't like teaching

anymore, uh, I phrased that weirdly.

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I don't enjoy teaching, feminism

or WGS after transitioning.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Why?

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I don't

know, I think I just don't like

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talking about gender that much.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Well, true

that, that's a lot of talk about gender.

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:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: yeah,

I think I'm maybe just tired

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:

of the whole concept of gender.

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You know, and I say this a lot

when ever people are like, trans

424

:

people only think about gender.

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It's like, no, no, no, no.

426

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We did this so we could stop

thinking about gender all the time.

427

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right.

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:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Right?

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:

it's you that won't shut up about

what is I've got in my pants.

430

:

You know?

431

:

This is me clocking out of

thinking about gender all the time.

432

:

so I realized I taught a course, at EKU

Uh, I hadn't taught it for a long time

433

:

and I was like, I really don't enjoy this.

434

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I don't enjoy this.

435

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I like the history part.

436

:

Love talking about the history of

social movements and like the, the work

437

:

that people did, but the discussion in

the classroom always centered around.

438

:

Gender so much, it was a combination

of not, no longer feeling like I held

439

:

the identities of somebody that should

be talking about it, and also just not

440

:

wanting to talk about gender anymore.

441

:

I don't know, I decided I'm

not gonna teach intro anymore.

442

:

The next WGS courses I taught were

like film, I taught like, uh, queer

443

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cinema or something like that.

444

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: the

ethnic studies is the one that's

445

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intimidating for me, because

that's not my area of expertise.

446

:

So I feel like I'm just like figuring

it out as I go, even though I've taught

447

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it twice now, but I feel like it's

448

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

449

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

from the first one, so.

450

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I think

it's important for people who hold

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dominant identities to get comfortable.

452

:

leading discussions around equity.

453

:

but there's such a danger for someone

with a dominant racial identity to be

454

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leading discussions around racial justice.

455

:

that they almost certainly mean well,

but the moments where we mean the best

456

:

are sometimes where we do the most

damage because we haven't, finished

457

:

the work yet you ever get the feeling

somebody's giving you advice and

458

:

they're really just talking to themself,

459

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

460

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: like

you're just giving yourself advice

461

:

right now and I'm here for it.

462

:

sometimes when a person is

early in social justice work.

463

:

And they begin to maybe wade

into deeper waters than they're

464

:

qualified for or ready for.

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:

It kind of comes a little out.

466

:

Like they're only talking to

their own experience and that's

467

:

not what anybody's interested in.

468

:

know, the experience of the person

with the dominant identities,

469

:

that should never be the center

that you're coming at this from.

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:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right.

471

:

I make it a point that I'm a

white woman talking about that.

472

:

That's one of the reasons I bring in

so many videos because I can never tell

473

:

you what it's like to be a black man,

but I can find a black man who's talking

474

:

about it and we can learn from him.

475

:

and that's one of the reasons I assign

so many readings and stuff, because

476

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I don't wanna be some white lady

standing in the front of the room

477

:

saying, this is race and ethnicity,

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

479

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I only

know the work that I have done.

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Right.

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I know what my black friends have told

me, my black peers and colleagues,

482

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what I've read, what I've written.

483

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the research that I've done and I'm

gonna do the best job that I can

484

:

here, but it's not gonna be perfect.

485

:

but we can definitely

learn from each other.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I think

that's why that like critical whiteness

487

:

framework is so potent because I

absolutely do think that people with

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dominant identities need to be doing,

um, even, leading in some, arenas, But.

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beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: The people

who hold up the systems of racism,

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of homophobia, the dominant culture,

the, the basically the white men.

491

:

if, if racism could have been

solved by black people, it

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:

would've been solved by now.

493

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And if sexism could be solved by

women, it would've been solved by now.

494

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We need the people who are in power,

who have the cultural hegemony.

495

:

we need those people to do the work

to do the talking because white

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:

people listen to other white people,

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:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

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:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

So it's, it's imperative.

499

:

We'll never make progress unless more

white people and more men get involved.

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

501

:

that was where I wound up when I was

thinking about not wanting to teach WGS

502

:

anymore, because I was like, yeah, I'm

sure that there's some, like discomfort

503

:

and, and maybe trauma related things

for me, not wanting to talk about that.

504

:

But a cis white passing man is precisely

who you need talking about gender equity

505

:

especially in a classroom in Kentucky,

506

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right,

507

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: who's

gonna be listened to in that context?

508

:

so I, have like, gone back and

forth about, like, chickening

509

:

out, I guess, in a way of that,

or privileging my own comfort.

510

:

it's kind of a moot point now because

I'm not really in the classroom,

511

:

but I'm not gonna like, clock out

of having the discussions ' cause I

512

:

hold a ton of power and privilege.

513

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: right.

514

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: It's

mostly pretty privilege though.

515

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I got into a

debate about that the other day, about

516

:

whether the, the privilege is real.

517

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh god.

518

:

People still out here doing that.

519

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

520

:

The, the, the way that I set up the class,

because we're in week two right now,

521

:

and today this on Thursday, we talked

about privilege and we talked about what

522

:

privilege is not just white privilege,

but we talked about male privilege, able

523

:

bodied privilege, religious privilege,

wealth, privilege, age, privilege.

524

:

and we talked about how it's the

things that didn't systemically

525

:

make your life harder.

526

:

You know, I was born a woman,

has that made my life harder?

527

:

Fuck yes.

528

:

I was born white.

529

:

Has that made my life harder?

530

:

Absolutely not.

531

:

I was born gay.

532

:

Has that made my life harder?

533

:

Absolutely.

534

:

Maybe my mom would've come to my

wedding if I was straight, you know?

535

:

that with privilege.

536

:

You have to, it's about wielding it.

537

:

Right.

538

:

And understand.

539

:

Like, like Dr.

540

:

Phil taught us, one of the only useful

things he ever taught us is that if

541

:

you, if you have to acknowledge a

problem, if you don't acknowledge

542

:

the problem, you can't fix it.

543

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

544

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: And

so that's why you need people

545

:

to learn about privilege and to

understand that they have it.

546

:

Because then if you're a white man

and you're given all this privilege

547

:

and you get a raise at work or you

get a promotion, use that power to

548

:

bring up people of color behind you

or women or other people who , are

549

:

minorities in your workplace.

550

:

do that work.

551

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Because so much

of this is just on cruise control now.

552

:

the isms, the inequity of,

the American social structure.

553

:

they're features not bugs.

554

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Oh,

555

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: the

556

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: does

exactly what it's designed to do.

557

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Exactly,

it was built this way, purpose built

558

:

when a person benefits from these features

that are not bugs, they are not the evil

559

:

for having this benefit, but they are in

a position to do some good by pausing and

560

:

drawing attention to the, the feature.

561

:

It's hard though,

562

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

563

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: just

to keep track of it all, I guess,

564

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

565

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

because we are saturated in.

566

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

When you say racism is in

567

:

everything, it is in everything.

568

:

Everything.

569

:

And once you see it, you can't unsee it.

570

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

571

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I'm so

passionate about doing the job that I do.

572

:

I feel like, like I said, white

kids listen to white people.

573

:

cause I have one class that

is completely white, taking an

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dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Hmm.

575

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: class.

576

:

they all

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:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Cool.

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:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: anyway to me.

579

:

there's, there's no people of color

that are obviously people of color

580

:

in the room, or identified as such.

581

:

but I told them you probably had

some reservations about taking such

582

:

a class because you don't have an

ethnicity, you don't have a race

583

:

according to American culture.

584

:

Right.

585

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Hmm.

586

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I got some

smiles from that because clearly they did.

587

:

I think it's important to be

having these conversations.

588

:

I'm glad that BG still requires that

they take a class in cultural studies,

589

:

because you know, it's important

information that we're teaching.

590

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: who knows

how much time that curriculum has left.

591

:

Although not to be weird, but, and, and I

don't wish anyone dies necessarily, but a

592

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: There are

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:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: a certain,

594

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: look

fondly upon their obituaries.

595

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: there's

a certain wannabe dictator that

596

:

could be on his last legs right now.

597

:

and things are only gonna get

weirder after that, in, in

598

:

whatever way it transpires.

599

:

There'll be a new challenge or

this will look a different way.

600

:

just saying nim nimble and, trying

to keep a sense of our humor, our,

601

:

a sense of, where we are as people

and why we really bother fighting.

602

:

This sometimes is only

gonna pay dividends.

603

:

And just investing in, young people or our

peers or our elders, whoever, in whatever

604

:

ways we can, that work is never wasted.

605

:

Gosh, we're just so passionate today.

606

:

Maybe we should spin this wheel,

what have you, it'll give us

607

:

something stupid to talk about.

608

:

It landed on hijinks.

609

:

Have we had that one?

610

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

I don't think so.

611

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Okay.

612

:

Hijinks.

613

:

What, what kind of word is hijinks?

614

:

First of all?

615

:

Like, I think I know what, what it, means,

but where does this, what is the en eth?

616

:

I almost said, uh,

entomology of that word,

617

:

Uh, etymology is, is,

yeah, entomology is bugs.

618

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right.

619

:

I, I, there's a, there's

a joke in there somewhere.

620

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Hijinx refers

to boisterous, noisy and mischievous

621

:

merrymaking or carefree antics,

often playful and high spirited.

622

:

So you, I mean, I know that,

you were more on the, the, only

623

:

child track in, in some ways.

624

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I

read, that's why I read so much.

625

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: but like

did you get into shit either though?

626

:

Like

627

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

when my brother made me.

628

:

Really?

629

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

630

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

631

:

I liked being inside with my books, and I

632

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

633

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: crazy, but

that's, that's just what I liked.

634

:

I would come home from school and play

school on the porch with my friends.

635

:

There were two little girls.

636

:

we lived in, in a house from the time

I was in around first grade until, we

637

:

moved when I was in the sixth grade.

638

:

So those are pretty formative years.

639

:

And there were two girls that lived

on my block that we were pretty,

640

:

that I was pretty close with.

641

:

they would come over and we'd

play school right after school.

642

:

Like that's the kind of nerd that I was.

643

:

I didn't like climbing trees.

644

:

I didn't like getting dirty

besides playing softball.

645

:

if, and if it was softball

season, I was all about softball.

646

:

but otherwise I was pretty much about

homework and doing all that kind of stuff.

647

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: We were, I

was pretty much always around other

648

:

kids, either David and Vanessa or

our cousins who were all our age.

649

:

And we hung out all a lot,

especially when school was out.

650

:

And we would play these huge,

sprawling, sometimes complicated games,

651

:

Like there was the normal ones, you

know, like red light, green light.

652

:

We would play, Simon says we

would play statue, but then

653

:

we would also invent things.

654

:

And so one, I remember

there was a game we played.

655

:

this whole summer.

656

:

Every time we got together we would do

this thing where we would, I had this

657

:

one cousin who was always very skinny.

658

:

He was always really small.

659

:

And we would make a game where he would,

be a ventriloquist dummy and sit on

660

:

my, our older cousin's knee and they

would put together a ventriloquism

661

:

routine for the younger kids.

662

:

you know, you're really having a

great time when you're cackling.

663

:

A whole mess of kids is cackling

so, so big that the adults come

664

:

to see if you've like gotten into

something you ought not to be into.

665

:

so we played that all summer long

and I can still like, remember.

666

:

I just had this feeling at the,

uh, or an awareness that this

667

:

is not ever gonna happen again.

668

:

This is one of those things that

is like lightning in a bottle.

669

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right.

670

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

It's never as funny.

671

:

The second time you can't

recreate that magic.

672

:

You grow up a little bit

every time in between.

673

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Well, my

cousins, I have 41 first cousins.

674

:

I have, I had 19 aunts and uncles before

you even started counting their spouses.

675

:

my parents, my three parents had

19 siblings between them, and of

676

:

the 41 cousins I'm next to last.

677

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

678

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: So all my

cousins are getting in their sixties

679

:

and their late fifties, and I'm

still sitting back here at 47, and

680

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah,

681

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I was,

they carry, I have pictures of me

682

:

at their high school graduations and

they're carrying me around on their

683

:

hip they were cut my hair and dressed

me up and I was their little doll.

684

:

that's what made me so queer.

685

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

there, there's a,

686

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: roots.

687

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: yeah.

688

:

We played baseball a lot.

689

:

And, I got, my first like really

spectacular black eye was from

690

:

playing baseball with my cousins.

691

:

I get hit right in the eye

socket with a, a line drive.

692

:

Yeah.

693

:

When I was, I was maybe probably seven.

694

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: that happened

695

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Um,

696

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

he broke his orbital bone.

697

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: we didn't, I

didn't go to the doctor or anything, Man.

698

:

I'm just now thinking back like

how many times I should have gone

699

:

to the doctor for stuff when I was

a kid and we just didn't do it.

700

:

Like that was clearly a concussion.

701

:

I was unconscious for a long time.

702

:

Hijinks means something different

when you start to get older.

703

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah.

704

:

'cause I'm thinking about times

with my best friends and things, but

705

:

maybe we shouldn't talk about on air.

706

:

Um, like I've not much

of a drinker at all.

707

:

I never really have been.

708

:

but one time my best friend, when we

lived in Huntington, she still lives in

709

:

Huntington, but I lived in Huntington,

West Virginia, and it was before

710

:

I had ever met Shanna or anything.

711

:

I lived in a h this big

old house by myself.

712

:

I had a girlfriend, but we broke up

and she moved out Tracy came and got

713

:

me and we were gonna go drinking and

we went to Applebee's of all places

714

:

and we sat at the bar at Applebee's

and she was buying and she got me

715

:

shit face drunk and she was driving

and she should not have been driving.

716

:

And there's an S-curve in Huntington, that

you had to go through to get to my house.

717

:

Uh, it's like a, a snaking little

s-curve that you have to slow down for.

718

:

And while we were in the Applebee's,

it started snowing pretty heavily.

719

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh no.

720

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Huntington

is famous for not getting the

721

:

road salted quickly enough.

722

:

And we went through that, that S-curve

and the car spun 360 all the way around.

723

:

And I was like glued to

the sides with my arms out.

724

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh, no.

725

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah.

726

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: There was,

uh, so many, we had a bunch of field

727

:

parties when I was in high school.

728

:

Like that was we, or, and

729

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

730

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

also in college house parties.

731

:

And field parties were the thing when

I was in college, everybody, you could

732

:

get a a keg of Natty Light for $120.

733

:

so we would all just put in five

bucks and get somebody's truck, put

734

:

it in the back of that, and then

take it out to the middle of a field.

735

:

And that's where we would have

that, our party that night.

736

:

that's the kind of thing, like I,

I do think fondly back on those, on

737

:

those nights, but I also, you couldn't

pay me to do that shit right now.

738

:

I'm not going to the field for a kegger.

739

:

Have you ever done a keg stand,

740

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Uh, no,

but I have done the ones, the funnel

741

:

where you did the, what is that

742

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: bong beer bong.

743

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

744

:

How did I

745

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I, I don't know.

746

:

I have done that one a few times

successfully, but really didn't enjoy it.

747

:

but there is something, well,

really, they're both kinda like this.

748

:

They're so, it's gonna sound crazy.

749

:

They're wholesome, because

it's a village, right?

750

:

Like you need, somebody has to

hold your legs up in the air.

751

:

Somebody else has to operate

the little plunger on the valve.

752

:

And, you know, people are holding

their hair up or something and

753

:

everybody's standing around cheering.

754

:

It's, it's such a stupid, stupid thing to

do, but You got the back scratcher out.

755

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah,

756

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Does

it have a hand on the end?

757

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: no, I've

had this particular back scratcher.

758

:

I bought one, um, when I, for year I

met Shanna, I went to Pier one Christmas

759

:

shopping and they had these on the,

on the desk for a dollar a piece.

760

:

So I bought, uh, Tracy,

my best friend one.

761

:

I bought my mom one, I bought

me one and I bought one.

762

:

so this was 20 years ago.

763

:

And Tracy just broke hers like a year ago.

764

:

And my mom's was still at

her house when she died,

765

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: just

reminded me that you bought me one

766

:

of those when I got my top surgery.

767

:

Do you remember that?

768

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

769

:

I had a friend that had also gone

through top surgery and I asked

770

:

him what he wished he had had and

he said, God, a back scratcher.

771

:

So that's what I got

772

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: It was, yeah.

773

:

It was incredible.

774

:

And I, as soon as I saw it,

I was like, that's genius.

775

:

That is somebody who's really

thinking about what the next,

776

:

at least week is gonna be like.

777

:

And like, and man, that

recovering from top surgery was.

778

:

I think about this often, it is one of

the most metal things I've ever done,

779

:

and I have, detoxed myself, you know,

from substances and and Sabrina was

780

:

with me for five days of it, but I was

so afraid of getting addicted to the

781

:

pain medicine that I stopped taking it.

782

:

I got what is called double incision.

783

:

So it's cut.

784

:

They cut me from armpit to armpit all

the way straight across, and I'm on, no

785

:

ma, I'm on no pain meds on day three.

786

:

And, and I had to fly.

787

:

I was in North Carolina, so I had to

fly by myself, go through TSA like that.

788

:

Uh, and it was just the most godawful

flight and you can't wipe your own ass.

789

:

It was, hardcore people think

that, uh, people are out here

790

:

transitioning just for the hell of it.

791

:

They are not.

792

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah, so just

so they can go in the women's bathroom.

793

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

794

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: that's one thing

that I've always gotten compliments for.

795

:

I'm a pretty good gift giver.

796

:

I'm a thoughtful fifth

797

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

Yeah, absolutely.

798

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

one of my love languages.

799

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

I wish I was better at it.

800

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Do

you know your love language?

801

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

Uh, I don't know.

802

:

What are they?

803

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

I, I don't know them all.

804

:

I know that mine is

805

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Hang

on, let, let me look it up.

806

:

Is there a finite number of them or,

807

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

Yeah, I think so.

808

:

There's like seven or something like that.

809

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

five Love languages.

810

:

Okay, I clicked on a sponsored link.

811

:

God, what's gonna happen to me now?

812

:

This is called simple body something

or other words of affirmation.

813

:

acts of service.

814

:

Receiving gifts.

815

:

Receiving gifts is a love language.

816

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: That's weird.

817

:

I think giving gifts,

818

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Maybe

that's what this is supposed to say.

819

:

I think I'm on somebody's

shitty blog here.

820

:

Hang on,

821

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

my face is so shiny.

822

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh this?

823

:

No.

824

:

Oh, Candace Cameron and wants

me to take a love language quiz.

825

:

Oh my God.

826

:

Just tell me what they are.

827

:

What is happening.

828

:

I can't just Google something

because I want to know it . You

829

:

want to sell me something?

830

:

No.

831

:

Receiving gifts is a love

language to this person.

832

:

Nothing makes them feel as special

as receiving a well thought out gift.

833

:

So this is someone feels someone, okay.

834

:

I don't understand this.

835

:

If someone's love language is receiving

gifts, then you should give them a gift.

836

:

Okay, that makes sense.

837

:

Quality time, physical touch.

838

:

I am going to guess that

mine is quality time,

839

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah,

840

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

but I don't know.

841

:

I don't,

842

:

yeah.

843

:

I like being around people, Yeah.

844

:

It's probably quality time.

845

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: mine is

definitely acts of service ' cause

846

:

it's like you show me that you

love me more than just tell me.

847

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Mm-hmm.

848

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: like

she had a helping me dry off this

849

:

morning after outta the shower.

850

:

That's an

851

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

852

:

Help people with an errand if they're

busy, if they have something to do.

853

:

I am like the, the best thing

I have to give is my time.

854

:

That's probably, that's not actually

a really high recommendation.

855

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I

enjoy spending time with you, so

856

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Aw.

857

:

It does seem like that's the, um,

like what I want outta somebody that

858

:

I really love is just them, you know,

I want to be, to have some access

859

:

to, my favorite part, I guess, is

having access to them and being, being

860

:

around them and getting to hear about

the things they're interested in.

861

:

So I guess that makes sense.

862

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: yeah.

863

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I

gotta, I gotta come up with

864

:

some stuff to get for Christmas.

865

:

I've made a sudden commitment to go

home to Kentucky for Thanksgiving.

866

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Oh, nice.

867

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Because

that's when my family has Christmas.

868

:

They don't do Thanksgiving.

869

:

Yeah, they just have Christmas instead.

870

:

So we've lived apart for so long

Vanessa and her, kids, they come to

871

:

our parents' house for Thanksgiving

and then her husband, instead of

872

:

trying to do all the holidays twice,

they just split 'em up that way.

873

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I've

lost several of my cousins.

874

:

Four of my first cousins I never met.

875

:

They died in a fire before I was born,

and I was, uh, named after one of them.

876

:

So there were two Rebeccas

in, in our family.

877

:

but the, the rest of them, so that

leaves the 37 left, they're all starting

878

:

to get older and starting to retire.

879

:

A lot of 'em are Trumpers, unfortunately.

880

:

and they don't get what I do whatsoever.

881

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: mm-hmm.

882

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: don't like

the, the news that I post or the links

883

:

that I post or, because that's how we

all stay in touch is Facebook these days,

884

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah,

885

:

I don't, well, and my Facebook's all fake.

886

:

It's mostly podcasting people on

there and some, some coworkers.

887

:

But, um,

888

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: one for, you

know, however long Facebook's been,

889

:

since 2007 or whatever it's been.

890

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I think

the other, the last one I had

891

:

is still out there somewhere.

892

:

I don't know how long before

they deactivate themselves, but

893

:

it also wasn't my real name.

894

:

I remember when, so David had a Facebook,

and you can memorialize a Facebook,

895

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

Yeah, we did that to my mom's.

896

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: but you, you

have to have certain details of it.

897

:

and we didn't know them, so I kept

getting, notifications from his Facebook,

898

:

at first I just, uh, unfriended him and

then it kept suggesting him as a friend.

899

:

And then, people would tag me, the, the

hero worship after he died, people would

900

:

tag me in his Facebook in it, and we just

couldn't get Facebook to shut it down.

901

:

And so I just, got rid

of that whole account.

902

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Wow.

903

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: But I think it.

904

:

an account will of its own

accord maybe expire if you

905

:

leave it dormant long enough.

906

:

I don't know that for sure.

907

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: I, I made

it a point because I didn't want

908

:

my dad's girlfriend to get in mom's

'cause he was still using her account.

909

:

I really did it to piss off my dad because

it blocked his access to his games and he

910

:

had millions of tokens saved up and that

911

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh,

912

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: thing.

913

:

And I was so mad at him

for getting a girlfriend.

914

:

I shut it off.

915

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: have you

ever changed somebody's password on

916

:

like a shared account or something?

917

:

Uh, I can't remember if I have either.

918

:

You know what I realized the other

day is like if we ever get famous,

919

:

there's gonna be people who knew

me back when I was a total scumbag

920

:

coming out trying to cancel us.

921

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

922

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

have you listened to the show?

923

:

Like everybody knows what

a dirt bag I used to be.

924

:

Good luck coming up with something that

I haven't already said about myself.

925

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right.

926

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: man, I'm so

happy to not be that generation that's

927

:

grown up with face or with social media,

928

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Oh man.

929

:

Yeah,

930

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: the cringe

that these people are having to, can

931

:

you imagine being, you know, 30 looking

back on a social media account you had

932

:

when you were 10 and going like, golly,

who was letting me say that stuff?

933

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah, I

had a, 'cause I will sometimes Google

934

:

students and I tell them that if

you send me an email that's stupid

935

:

enough, I'll probably email you.

936

:

or if you piss me off or whatever,

I'm gonna see what's out there.

937

:

And I found a kid who, on his Twitter,

it looked like it hadn't been updated

938

:

in like five years or something,

but he had used the n word in

939

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh God.

940

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: And

I wa I, I was like, maybe you

941

:

should do something about that.

942

:

And he was like, oh my God, oh

my God, I didn't know this was

943

:

out there, blah, blah, blah.

944

:

And I was like,

945

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Well, and

dude being on like gay social apps or

946

:

dating apps or something like that.

947

:

Especially, you know, I had a, uh, have

had a grinder or grinder accounts off and

948

:

on and just, I've made friends that way.

949

:

I've made friends on OkCupid as well.

950

:

like, you could set your filters and stuff

so that you can't see people in a certain

951

:

age range and they can't see you either.

952

:

But I discovered when I started going to

work specifically in lgbtqia twos plus

953

:

work, they will find a way around it.

954

:

They'll create burner accounts or

they'll lie about their age because

955

:

it's on the honor system and.

956

:

There was one that contacted me.

957

:

It took me a minute to figure out

who it was, but they had their

958

:

social links on their Grindr profile.

959

:

Can you imagine being just

that out here I was so naive,

960

:

I didn't realize what it was.

961

:

And people, it was a porn Twitter account.

962

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Oh God.

963

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

964

:

And so I was like, okay,

that's enough grinder.

965

:

That's enough Grindr for me.

966

:

Never again.

967

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

a dating app in my life.

968

:

my

969

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Yeah.

970

:

Well,

971

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

got together before.

972

:

That was a thing.

973

:

I don't

974

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: some of

975

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

swipe left or swipe right.

976

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: I've

made friends, on Grindr who, 'cause

977

:

some people are actually on there

to make friends because it's the

978

:

only place you can actually know

you're gonna talk to gay people.

979

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Right.

980

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: so yeah,

it's a hookup app, but some of them

981

:

who put friends only in their profile

actually mean that, and it's just

982

:

an a because there's not gay bars.

983

:

And even if there were, I probably

wouldn't go to one if it's here in town

984

:

because my students would be at it.

985

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah.

986

:

yeah, we met at a friend's party.

987

:

She came over to hang out and I

happened to be there and we sat in

988

:

the floor and laughed for hours and

basically I haven't separated since.

989

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Didn't

you, you, you turned or didn't you?

990

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319: Yeah, she was

the token straight girl in a circle of

991

:

gay people, and now most of them have

gone straight and she's the token gay one.

992

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320: Oh, hell yeah.

993

:

beck_4_09-05-2025_190319:

yeah, we surprised 'em all.

994

:

None of 'em thought we

would make it this far.

995

:

And here we are better than ever.

996

:

dash_4_09-05-2025_180320:

I dated somebody.

997

:

I had started dating this girl

for one month when David died.

998

:

she hadn't even met my family yet.

999

:

She met them because he died.

:

00:37:31,334 --> 00:37:34,985

that kind of, I think probably

like impacted what the re the rest

:

00:37:34,985 --> 00:37:36,335

of that relationship was like.

:

00:37:36,335 --> 00:37:37,648

-:

:

00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:39,510

-:

a way it wasn't bad though.

:

00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:41,550

It was the, you know what

killed that relationship.

:

00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:42,570

Fucking grad school.

:

00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:42,860

-:

:

00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:43,340

-:

:

00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:46,940

Grad students are, listen listeners,

can you, which camera do I look in?

:

00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:47,750

Is this my camera here?

:

00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:49,430

Do not date a grad student.

:

00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:53,390

We are the absolute worst.

:

00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,780

If your partner says they're gonna

go to grad school, say, all right,

:

00:37:56,780 --> 00:37:57,710

I'll see you when you're done.

:

00:37:58,495 --> 00:38:02,005

The just know it all snot knows

bullshit that we get into almost

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00:38:02,005 --> 00:38:03,685

immediately when we go to grad school.

:

00:38:03,685 --> 00:38:05,815

I don't know what, I don't

know what gets into us, but I

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00:38:05,815 --> 00:38:06,985

think it's imposter syndrome.

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-:

Yeah, definitely.

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00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,770

-:

remember that fear of everybody's

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00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:11,000

else is smarter than me.

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-:

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-:

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to be here and I'm, I shouldn't be.

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00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:14,779

-:

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00:38:14,809 --> 00:38:16,219

-:

definitely felt that a lot.

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00:38:16,219 --> 00:38:19,429

I was, I was the first person in my

family to graduate from high school,

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00:38:19,489 --> 00:38:24,079

and, and so to be there in, in a

master's program and then a PhD program,

:

00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,949

it was so far from anything that I

had ever even imagined for myself.

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00:38:27,949 --> 00:38:28,549

it, it really

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-:

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00:38:28,939 --> 00:38:29,779

-:

a lot like imposter.

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00:38:29,779 --> 00:38:31,039

Like I didn't belong there.

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I showed up.

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Anyway,

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me, don't threaten me with a good time.

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You can chop wood in it.

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You can kiss girls in it, and you

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and your grandma will just sigh

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If you're overcome with the desire

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00:39:05,753 --> 00:39:07,613

family reunion, just put on a flannel.

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00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:10,463

You can head straight to the gay bar

afterwards and be signaling every

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00:39:10,463 --> 00:39:14,093

queer within a five mile radius,

same flannel, just with one less

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00:39:14,093 --> 00:39:15,503

button and both sleeves rolled up.

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00:39:15,503 --> 00:39:19,283

A nice plaid flannel shirt performs

the magic trick of somehow being both

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00:39:19,283 --> 00:39:23,153

camouflage and queer Beacon shielding

you when needed with just enough

:

00:39:23,183 --> 00:39:26,573

plausible deniability or shouting

to the treetops like some bird of

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00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:28,283

paradise performing for its mate.

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This works in a wide variety

of cross-functional situations.

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Button it up.

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00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:36,593

All the way for choir practice

conservative or wear it unbuttoned over

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00:39:36,593 --> 00:39:40,883

a tank top for that tractor supply sic

aesthetic tied around your waist, paired

:

00:39:40,883 --> 00:39:45,083

with a backwards baseball hat, and you'll

ascend to bisexual God status this fall.

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00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:48,383

Skip the mall and head to the

safe haven of yard sales for

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00:39:48,383 --> 00:39:50,393

the price of one sad ice latte.

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00:39:50,393 --> 00:39:54,263

You can thrift three flannels that

already smell faintly of chainsaw oil

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00:39:54,263 --> 00:39:56,543

and woodsy twists when you put one on.

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00:39:56,573 --> 00:39:57,863

You're not just getting dressed.

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00:39:57,893 --> 00:40:00,713

You're joining a lineage of queer

rednecks who've been finding each

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00:40:00,713 --> 00:40:05,033

other across bonfires, hay rides

and tractor pools for generations.

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00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:07,763

Flannel, not just a

fabric, but a lifestyle

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-:

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I love my flannels.

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It's almo,

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-:

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00:40:11,053 --> 00:40:11,353

Now,

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-:

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borrowed from, my niece's boyfriend.

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00:40:15,283 --> 00:40:18,703

He had moved out and left a few things

and he left my favorite flannel.

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00:40:18,703 --> 00:40:21,253

I stole it right on out

from, from that pile.

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00:40:21,253 --> 00:40:21,938

-:

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What is it about a good flannel?

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00:40:23,279 --> 00:40:23,667

-:

:

00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:25,047

-:

don't know, but it really does

:

00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:26,667

feel like I'm, untouchable.

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00:40:26,667 --> 00:40:27,477

Nobody can get me.

:

00:40:27,477 --> 00:40:28,017

Now,

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00:40:28,017 --> 00:40:28,377

-:

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00:40:28,377 --> 00:40:31,497

I've collected quite a few over the

past couple of years, but I live in

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00:40:31,497 --> 00:40:33,387

the fucking North Pole, you know,

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00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:35,960

-:

me what I wanted for Christmas and

:

00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,280

I said I wanted some new flannels.

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00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:37,838

-:

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-:

living that, dyke legacy, somebody

:

00:40:40,099 --> 00:40:42,469

called me a bull dyke once.

:

00:40:42,469 --> 00:40:44,509

And I had never heard that.

:

00:40:44,509 --> 00:40:47,119

, I think what hurt my feelings about it

though was because I'd never heard it

:

00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:50,059

before and I'm like, how dare you call

me something I've never even heard of,

:

00:40:50,694 --> 00:40:52,824

like a new slur at this point in my life.

:

00:40:52,824 --> 00:40:57,277

What is what They can do that, but

I, I don't know what the ballpark is.

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00:40:57,277 --> 00:40:57,877

Watch me Google.

:

00:40:57,877 --> 00:41:01,837

This is Candace Cameron Berg gonna come

at me again over the next thing I Google.

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00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:02,260

-:

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seems like the type.

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00:41:03,282 --> 00:41:05,912

-:

etymology of dyke and bull Oh, this

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00:41:05,912 --> 00:41:08,042

is a Taylor in Francis article,

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00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:11,117

it says Obscure origin, so

nobody knows where it came from.

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00:41:16,117 --> 00:41:16,642

You remember how.

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00:41:17,557 --> 00:41:22,147

There was a fad in the

early:

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00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:26,017

Everyone going around saying,

I identify as such and such.

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00:41:26,017 --> 00:41:27,127

I'm glad we don't do it anymore.

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00:41:27,157 --> 00:41:30,607

'cause it's super problematic and

you know, just asking people to

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00:41:30,607 --> 00:41:33,607

know a lot about themselves and

share that openly with people.

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00:41:33,607 --> 00:41:36,847

So I would, the first, the only

time I've ever encountered it was

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00:41:36,847 --> 00:41:39,787

there at BG and I think it was

just that moment in time at bg.

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00:41:39,787 --> 00:41:42,907

And so I would always come out with

something unhinged to say I identify

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00:41:42,907 --> 00:41:47,526

as, and I started saying, I identify

as a white trash dyke they hated it.

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00:41:47,526 --> 00:41:47,976

They did not.

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00:41:47,976 --> 00:41:50,826

I mean, Tobias thought it was

funny, but he was the only one.

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00:41:51,615 --> 00:41:54,045

well, did you bring a noun of

Appalachian interest with you?

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00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:54,690

-:

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00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:56,310

I brought an interesting one today.

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It's a place.

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All right.

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right, y'all.

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00:41:58,868 --> 00:42:01,958

It's time for another installment of

Nouns of Appalachian interest, where

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we celebrate the people, places,

and things that make Appalachia.

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Well.

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00:42:05,498 --> 00:42:09,850

Appalachia, noun is a place, one

that's equal parts, fancy, historic,

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00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,590

and just a tiny bit suspicious.

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00:42:11,590 --> 00:42:13,150

Let's talk about the Green Briar.

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00:42:13,476 --> 00:42:16,656

Green Briar is a luxury resort in

white sulfur springs, West Virginia,

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00:42:16,656 --> 00:42:20,226

and it's been around since:

is at least three times older than

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00:42:20,226 --> 00:42:21,576

your favorite pair of tennis shoes.

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00:42:21,576 --> 00:42:25,506

It's got white columns, manicured gardens,

and enough chandeliers to make Liberace

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00:42:25,506 --> 00:42:27,216

look like he was decorating on a dare.

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00:42:27,417 --> 00:42:30,777

the real kicker beneath the Southern

charm is a massive Cold War era

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00:42:30,777 --> 00:42:36,147

secret 112,000 square foot underground

bunker built to hide the entire US

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00:42:36,147 --> 00:42:38,637

Congress in case of nuclear disaster.

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00:42:38,637 --> 00:42:38,967

Yep.

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00:42:38,967 --> 00:42:42,777

While guests were upstairs playing

croquette and sipping tea, the government

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00:42:42,777 --> 00:42:46,917

was quietly, stockpiling cots, canned

food, and enough bottled water to

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00:42:46,917 --> 00:42:48,987

float a bass boat for over 30 years.

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00:42:48,987 --> 00:42:52,437

This bunker was one of America's

most clo, closely guarded secrets

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00:42:52,437 --> 00:42:54,327

code name project, Greek Island.

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00:42:54,327 --> 00:42:57,447

It had its own radio station,

a hospital and a power plant.

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00:42:57,447 --> 00:43:00,267

The walls were three feet of

reinforced concrete designed

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00:43:00,267 --> 00:43:01,897

to, withstand a nuclear blast.

:

00:43:01,927 --> 00:43:04,957

And yet it was hidden behind

a literal fake door that

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00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:06,547

said, high voltage keep out.

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00:43:06,547 --> 00:43:09,277

Because apparently in the Cold

War, the best security system was

:

00:43:09,277 --> 00:43:10,807

just making something look boring.

:

00:43:11,227 --> 00:43:13,357

whole thing stayed hush hush

until the nineties when the

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00:43:13,357 --> 00:43:14,977

Washington Post spilled the beans.

:

00:43:14,977 --> 00:43:18,667

Now you can actually tour it, walk past

rows of dorm style bunk beds, and stand in

:

00:43:18,667 --> 00:43:22,267

the meeting room where in theory, Congress

would've been legislating in their pajamas

:

00:43:22,267 --> 00:43:23,857

while the world above was in chaos.

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00:43:23,857 --> 00:43:26,737

So yeah, the green Bit Briar isn't

just a pretty place to play golf.

:

00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:29,887

It's living proof that in Appalachia,

we don't just build resorts, we

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00:43:29,887 --> 00:43:30,917

build them apo apocalypse ready.

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00:43:31,357 --> 00:43:32,437

-:

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00:43:32,437 --> 00:43:33,637

I didn't know that.

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00:43:33,637 --> 00:43:33,847

-:

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-:

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-:

Greenbriar resort.

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Okay.

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00:43:37,389 --> 00:43:38,709

Oh, it's beautiful.

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00:43:38,709 --> 00:43:39,129

-:

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00:43:39,386 --> 00:43:43,706

And there's a, a total 112,000 square foot

bunker it built into the bottom of it.

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00:43:43,736 --> 00:43:44,186

And

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00:43:44,321 --> 00:43:45,221

-:

you rent out the bunker?

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00:43:45,379 --> 00:43:46,579

-:

oh, I don't know about that.

:

00:43:46,579 --> 00:43:50,047

But if there were to be like, some

kind of national emergency, they

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00:43:50,047 --> 00:43:51,307

were all supposed to go there.

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00:43:51,307 --> 00:43:53,797

I believe the new one is

under the Denver airport.

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00:43:53,797 --> 00:43:55,957

-:

about to ask, is this current?

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00:43:55,957 --> 00:43:56,197

-:

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00:43:56,242 --> 00:43:56,872

-:

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00:43:56,947 --> 00:43:58,297

-:

think it's out of commission.

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00:43:58,297 --> 00:43:58,987

-:

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00:43:58,987 --> 00:43:59,737

Interesting.

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00:43:59,797 --> 00:44:01,207

That is so cool.

:

00:44:01,207 --> 00:44:02,167

I love shit like that.

:

00:44:02,372 --> 00:44:05,822

We can, we can make a reservation there

and go ride around in a horse buggy.

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00:44:05,822 --> 00:44:06,902

-:

That would be awesome.

:

00:44:06,902 --> 00:44:07,872

I do wanna tour it one day.

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00:44:08,179 --> 00:44:08,779

-:

:

00:44:08,779 --> 00:44:11,509

I don't know how to play golf, so

I'd just be a, a menace out there.

:

00:44:11,509 --> 00:44:13,279

But is this, you said

it's a golf course, right?

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00:44:13,279 --> 00:44:14,779

-:

Uh, a among other things,

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00:44:14,779 --> 00:44:15,229

-:

:

00:44:15,289 --> 00:44:15,499

Yeah.

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00:44:15,499 --> 00:44:16,399

It's got a lot going on.

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00:44:16,399 --> 00:44:17,149

-:

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00:44:17,149 --> 00:44:17,689

-:

:

00:44:17,689 --> 00:44:19,999

Well, we have been

talking our asses off, so

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00:44:19,999 --> 00:44:20,719

-:

:

00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,339

-:

it's time to, to hang this one

:

00:44:22,339 --> 00:44:25,369

up and let you go back to bed

and put, are you putting aloe on?

:

00:44:25,369 --> 00:44:25,879

-:

:

00:44:25,879 --> 00:44:27,439

I have a with lidocaine.

:

00:44:27,439 --> 00:44:28,339

-:

:

00:44:28,339 --> 00:44:28,639

That's,

:

00:44:28,774 --> 00:44:29,374

-:

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00:44:29,479 --> 00:44:30,229

-:

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00:44:30,229 --> 00:44:30,623

-:

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00:44:30,749 --> 00:44:31,039

-:

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-:

like, I slept totally topless the

:

00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:36,869

other night because like, just the

seams on my shirt hurt, you know?

:

00:44:37,034 --> 00:44:38,534

-:

like starfish in the bed?

:

00:44:38,939 --> 00:44:39,389

-:

:

00:44:39,749 --> 00:44:42,359

Well it was the hard, my,

like my skin is all tight.

:

00:44:42,359 --> 00:44:45,119

It doesn't, my arms don't wanna really

raise too far above my head because

:

00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:48,269

that's where all the, all my shoulders

is, where all the blisters are,

:

00:44:48,269 --> 00:44:49,769

-:

are really describing the top

:

00:44:49,769 --> 00:44:51,329

surgery experience right now.

:

00:44:51,569 --> 00:44:53,999

'cause there's like a good six

months where you can't raise

:

00:44:53,999 --> 00:44:55,469

your arms above your head.

:

00:44:55,469 --> 00:44:56,099

-:

:

00:44:56,104 --> 00:44:57,874

I'm with you in solidarity, my friends.

:

00:44:57,874 --> 00:45:00,587

This absolutely sucks and I'm

glad it's only lasting a week.

:

00:45:00,587 --> 00:45:03,107

cause, but I thought it would

be like getting better by

:

00:45:03,107 --> 00:45:04,817

now, and in some ways it is.

:

00:45:04,817 --> 00:45:06,587

I was able to shower today finally,

:

00:45:06,587 --> 00:45:06,917

-:

:

00:45:07,127 --> 00:45:08,387

-:

the blisters, ugh.

:

00:45:08,387 --> 00:45:10,937

-:

you get, the longer those take to heal.

:

00:45:11,263 --> 00:45:13,393

-:

:

00:45:13,393 --> 00:45:16,695

-:

make, uh, your birthday into a a gauntlet?

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00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:17,970

-:

:

00:45:18,105 --> 00:45:18,410

-:

:

00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:20,640

-:

but I, I had a really good day that

:

00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,750

day and we went for a tattoo, uh,

uh, appointment to get the, uh, to

:

00:45:24,750 --> 00:45:25,920

get it scheduled and everything.

:

00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,600

My tattoo is September 10th, so

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00:45:27,705 --> 00:45:28,155

-:

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-:

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00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,280

Yeah.

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00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,240

I'm very excited

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00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,000

-:

thank you to everyone who listened.

:

00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,930

Again, thanks for everybody who's been

hanging out with us on social media.

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That's been fun.

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still listening, hashtag in our comments.

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that's our, our hashtag now is yee-haw.

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Fuck the law.

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and send us an email if

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Once, once she gets feeling

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up some other kinds of content.

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Who knows?

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I'll put that in there.

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00:46:09,108 --> 00:46:11,838

But there's a movie coming out

that I want us to do like a

:

00:46:11,838 --> 00:46:13,578

special review of for Halloween.

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00:46:13,578 --> 00:46:15,498

it's Queen of the Dead.

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00:46:15,498 --> 00:46:18,778

It's made by George Romero's daughter.

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It's a queer zombie movie.

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It's supposed to be.

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Camp is all Get out.

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Everybody's very excited about it.

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And it just reminds me

of, like Queer Wolf.

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And so it'd be fun for us to do some sort

of like double feature or something if

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we like got a, maybe if we got a Discord

or something or just had a watch party.

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Would y'all be interested in that?

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Let us know if, oh, also Spotify.

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I was digging around in

the demographic data.

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you can set your gender to

non-binary now on, on Spotify.

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And so, listeners, if, if you're a, a

Spotify and you identify as non-binary,

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go look at the most recent update.

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You can, designate your gender in there

and I would love to see that little

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non-binary bar fill up in our demographic

thing because I know you're out there.

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we love y'all and say

hi to your mom and them.

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QUEERNECKS
Queer Appalachian Stories & Culture.
Join the lively hosts of QUEERNECKS for a unique podcast experience exploring the intersection of Appalachian culture and the LGBTQ+ experience. Dive into engaging stories, humorous anecdotes, and thoughtful discussions on everything from Appalachian traditions and local life to current events, LGBTQ+ issues, and building an inclusive community. If you're looking for a podcast that blends authentic Appalachian voices with insightful queer perspectives, offering both laughter and meaningful connection, then welcome to the QUEERNECKS family. Subscribe now and be part of our growing community!
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