Episode 67

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21st Sep 2026

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In this episode:

- Conservopedia Raost

- Gen Z Cringe is Just Sparkling Timidity

- Sydney Sweeney's Naked Grift

- Queer Slasher Movie Talk

- Appalachian Interest: Bill Withers

- Dead Internet Theory Comes to Life. Zombie internet, if you will

Transcript
Speaker:

Welcome to Queer Next, the podcast that puts the

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Yee Hall in y'all means hall.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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Speaker 2: and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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Dash (2): To fix the device problem,

I had to move my whole shit over

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into the other bedroom, which

has worse internet connection.

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so, uh, the last thing I heard you

say was if you guessed 50 times,

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which I'm down to do if you wanna

make me guess 50 times about something

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Beck: You'll never guess

the song in my head is the

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Dash (2): Oh.

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Beck: of that sentence

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Dash (2): That would

probably take more than 50.

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Is it the Macarena?

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Beck: It is not, but I used to sing

that, "Hey, Mark and Tina," which

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were my parents' names The song in my

head, "Everybody was kung fu fighting.

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Dash (2): Oh, that's a good one.

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Beck: doo, doo, doo, doo, Doo."

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Dash (2): Definitely an earworm.

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Do you remember,

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Beck: fast as lightning

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Dash (2): it was like 2001 or 2, a

viral thing of a chipmunk singing

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that with, It had like, I think,

like nunchakus or something,

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some sort of weapon in its hand.

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It was sort of an, an

early kind of internet meme

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I think it was from a commercial.

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Okay, now I have to know.

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Anyway, uh, they made

merchandise of this thing.

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Is it a h- maybe it was a hamster singing

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Beck: Remember the hamster dance?

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Do.

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Dash (2): kung fu fighting

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Beck: do.

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Do-do-do.

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If that doesn't unlock something in your

brain, we are not of the same generation.

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Do.

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Dash (2): Okay.

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Beck: do.

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Dash (2): I have it here.

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Let me see

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Beck: Do-do-do.

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Roo doggy

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Dash (2): All right.

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You see my screen?

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Beck: I see blackness.

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Yes, I see your screen

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Dash (2): Everybody Wenda

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Anyway, that, uh, that was a

hamster that spun this nunchuck

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around and sang Everybody Was Kung

Fu Fighting, and I don't know why.

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I'll find it, I'll find it and I'll

post the YouTube video in the show

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notes, and I'll put it on social media.

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Oh, speaking of, we asked last time

for you know, y'all to submit your,

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uh, pictures of your cats for the,

the Queernecks Cat Calendar:

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And our friend Techno Pop Tart l- posted

on the YouTube that the, our, uh, email

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inbox is going unanswered apparently,

the, the mailbag@queernecks.com.

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Which we can try to fix

that when we have time.

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Uh, we would love for to have a reliable

way for y'all to do that kind of thing

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and not have to rely on social media.

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But for now, what I've done is

cr- activate a Patreon I had

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been tinkering with for a while.

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Like if you want to give us money,

that's really cool, but what we're really

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struggling to find is a place where

we can actually all have community and

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reliably be able to have interactive polls

and like we can even go live in there.

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We could post, we could like put any

video content we want to, if we don't

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wanna just have it on YouTube, you know?

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'Cause I'm not, like I feel really

pretty, but I don't always want my face

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on YouTube or social media or something.

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Like I'll, I've done it occasionally,

but anyway, this is a place

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where we could put video content.

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Not that folks couldn't, you know, like

screen record it and clip it or whatever

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if they really wanted to and that's,

you know, that's the hazard of being

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somebody that puts stuff on the internet.

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But anyway, we c- I, I, 'cause I

can put polls and things in there,

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and I can create a post Like if we

say like, "Post your cat pictures

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here," they can be all in one place.

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And you can join, I can set it so that

it's free to join, and I can make posts

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that are free to anybody that's in there.

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So, uh That's active now.

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There's one post in it, ' cause that

was just testing to see if it worked.

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But also, if you, like, don't pay

for Spotify or you don't have…

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You don't wanna support certain app,

uh, whatchacallems, podcast things,

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and you, you don't wanna hear ads

when you're listening to us, I synced

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all of our episodes, all the episodes

of Queernecks to this Patreon.

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You can listen to them without

ads in there if you want to.

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Cause I would personally like to get

rid of Spotify, uh, es- certainly the

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paid version of it, and there's just not

an elegant solution for un- or I guess

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divesting from these tech oligarchs.

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So if you're somebody that w- is

interested in doing that but you're like,

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"Man, my, my Queernecks just haven't

made the 21st century leap to Patreon

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yet like all of the other podcasts have."

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There are more white trash

podcasts in Patreon than us,

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so I just figured, "Okay, fine.

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We'll do it."

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So I will put that in

the episode description.

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We haven't done a ton of…

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We haven't been doing newsletters yet,

but we could migrate those over there.

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We can post it on Substack

though and social media

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Beck: Sounds good to me

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Dash (2): we're already, like, more than

a quarter way through this semester.

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Thank God it's flying

by because it's awful.

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Beck: Yeah it's wild this semester

is the best word I can use.

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The audacity of some of

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Dash (2): yehaw

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Beck: is just outstanding really

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Dash (2): it's that, yes.

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It's that too, and it's

also, like, just me.

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I knew it was coming, but there's no

way to prepare for how much things

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have changed since the last time I

taught, and so I'm feeling like I'm

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just not, I'm not my best, not…

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i'm just, I'm doing the

best I can, for sure.

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But what's fucking me up is this

knowledge that next semester I'll

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do better, and the kids I have this

semester didn't do anything to deserve

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the worst content that they're getting.

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I know that's the nature

of starting a new job, but

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Beck: about

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Dash (2): I,

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Beck: at Shawnee.

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Dash (2): mm

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Beck: I felt really bad about

teaching English to kids at Shawnee.

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They had a year of me, and they

have to live with that for the

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rest of their lives, 'cause I

had no idea what I was doing.

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I don't teach English, you know?

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Dash (2): Oh, was it writing?

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Beck: Yes, it was 101 and 102.

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Dash (2): Those are, they love to

throw new faculty into those, and

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those are the hardest ones to teach.

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I- if somebody has degrees like yours,

you would find it easier to teach

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literature than you would to teach writing

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Beck: Right.

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It was tough.

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The second semester I didn't even turn in

my syllabus until they were like, "Man,

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you really have to turn in your syllabus.

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It's like the law."

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'Cause I didn't know what

to put on it, you know?

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I was building it as

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Dash (2): Oh.

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Beck: so

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Dash (2): sounds like you didn't

have a ton of support either.

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Beck: No, not really.

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Dash (2): yeah.

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I've been really fortunate to have that

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Beck: Yeah.

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I had a friend that I went to high school

with that actually told me about the job.

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She was a full-time professor there.

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She's a PhD.

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And she let me copy her

syllabus both semesters, so

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Dash (2): Yeah.

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' Beck: you know?

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Dash (2): Right, yeah.

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E- especially 101.

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102 to me has always been way easier, and

maybe it's because I have more reps at it

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'cause I taught it much more often, but

it's literally just research, you know?

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It's, it, I mean, y- you are continuing

to develop writing skills and things,

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but you're, it's a little more

about using, finding, evaluating,

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and using research and sources, and

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how

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash (2): how to treat those once

you have them, how to find them.

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Uh, so that one is, that one kind of

creates its own structure in a way.

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101, oh God, it can look a million ways.

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And so I made the mistake of looking up

the Minnesota like whatever you call it,

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core curriculum, Common Core curriculum.

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It fucking lied to me about

what these students should know.

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It was like, uh, now incorporates close

reading from grades like e- at least

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like sophomore to senior year they're

supposed to like practice close reading.

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Bullshit

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Beck: Right?

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I would like to see, like, like

to see them try some of the

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stuff we did in high school.

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Like, I read Beowulf in

high school, and I read

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Dash (2): Oh.

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Beck: in high

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Dash (2): Yeah.

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I memorized the prologue to The Canterbury

Tales in Middle English in high school.

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I don't know why.

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First of all, like, well, I'm

not saying that's good pedagogy.

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What did I learn from it?

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Like, I can, I can in a pinch describe

the differences between Old English,

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Middle English, Early Modern English.

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Boy, that's gonna get me

out of a pickle later.

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If nothing else, it was fun.

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I felt really smart

'cause I could do that.

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And that is something…

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I don't wanna turn this into Pedagogy

Corner, but maybe this is relevant to

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our listeners, and it is relevant to

just the larger world of media and stuff.

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There's a, a confidence issue among

Gen Z in at least fields like mine.

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and Gen Z, I mean, like this ver- you

know, these younger Gen Zs, the ones

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that are, like, the tail end of Gen

Z, the beginning of Gen Alpha, the

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ones that are coming to college now.

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They have no confiden- Well, I don't

wanna say whether it's confidence or not.

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They say they don't have any confidence.

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That's what they call it.

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It's not…

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I don't think it's that, because

nobody with their level of

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audacity has zero confidence.

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I think it's timidity.

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Nobody

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Beck: That's a fun word 'cause

it sounds, uh, sounds like titty

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Dash (2): Today.

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Today, mid-did-di-dy.

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Nobody who doesn't have any

confidence calls the fucking dean

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and says, "My teacher doesn't

respond to my emails fast enough."

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Beck: Yeah.

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Did you actually have that happen?

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Dash (2): multiple.

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We all have.

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It's a thing here.

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Minnesotans fully believe that

they can speak to the manager

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of anything at any time.

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Um, So I think that this is regional.

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so I don't know.

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And it doesn't feel like a

lack of confidence anyway.

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It feels, And so I've researched this.

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I'm not just talking

out of my ass anymore.

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They are reluctant to state anything

they're reluctant to make any claim.

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They will not express an opinion

about something that somebody else

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could also have an opinion about.

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How do I put this?

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So they won't write a thesis statement.

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All of their papers are, "But everybody

has their own opinion," and, you know,

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uh, this, uh, all, all opinions are valid

and this could look this way or whatever.

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And it's like, that's important

to va- uh, to validate other

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people's positionalities, but

that's not what you're doing here.

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You don't want to make a claim because

you're afraid you could be wrong.

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Like, the worst thing that could happen

to them is being wrong about something.

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cause I showed them I've got them

reading Me Talk Pretty One Day.

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And so, you know, Sedaris was it still

is I guess, a big, uh, contributor

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to, like, uh, This American Life and

All Things Considered, all those like,

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you know, hoity-toity NPR things.

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And in 2012, they did a, I think it was

This American Life, did one of their

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live shows and he did a piece for it.

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He did a reading, uh, and he came out

dressed as a clown, uh, full clown

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getup, makeup, and it was the sad

clown, the old, uh, Vaudeville version,

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tiny little hat on top of his head.

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And so I showed them that because

I was like, one day I just asked

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my in-person class, I was like,

"Y'all Googled him, right?"

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No, none of them had Googled the author of

the book we'd been reading for five weeks.

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And I was like, "Interesting.

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So why that just didn't occur to you?"

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It's like, does it, do you get the sense

that this is somebody who's still alive?

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Like, do you occupy the earth

with this person right now?

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That's not of interest to you?

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Okay.

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So I pulled that video and I showed

it to them in class and I said, "Okay.

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Name a thing you noticed."

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What's a thing that happened in here?

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Name a thing you saw."

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They wouldn't do it, not one of them.

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And I was like, " Nothing about

his appearance stood out to you?

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You think he was born looking like

that and we shouldn't comment on it?

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What the fuck is happening?

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He's dressed like a clown.

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Somebody say it."

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So I started doing research,

as I do, and it's, there's

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data on the fact that they…

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And they have told us about it, because

they love to tell us about themselves.

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They won't say anything about

what's happening around them.

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And there was, uh, some, actually a couple

of studies, like s- uh, surveys circulated

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online, and the reason they don't want

to they refuse to express opinions in

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person, in class, at work, and even

online, they're afraid of looking cringe

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Beck: Oh, wow

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that's a rite of passage

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Dash (2): And they're

determined to avoid it.

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I think they're determined to

avoid a lot of rite of passages

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because some really important ones

were stolen from them, you know?

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The lockdown, we knew it

was gonna impact them.

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Apparently this- I would surmise

that this is one outcome of their

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schooling being interrupted in

the way it was by the pandemic.

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Hyper-onlineness the,

how surveilled they are.

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Any mistakes they do make are

gonna be public as all get out.

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Ours got to be private.

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They were humiliating, but

they were contained in a way.

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They, there was no…

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Like, you weren't gonna be the dumbass

who goes viral on TikTok they came-

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I think they've come by it honestly.

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It's just, I didn't, I

didn't see that one coming.

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And so I'm having the, like,

the, the first, like…

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My, my reintroduction to teaching

has been a whole lot of, like,

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seeing how bad we fucked them up

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Beck: Yeah.

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They were seventh and eighth

graders when the pandemic hit.

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So they missed a lot of, like,

foundational English, foundational math

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foundational history, like all those

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Dash (2): Yehaw

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Beck: that you learn in junior high.

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Science, you learn about cells and, you

know, weather systems and all that, and

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they probably didn't get any of that

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Dash (2): And well, and it, there's, even

if some of them did, there's no way to

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actually know how standardized it was.

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Beck: I've got some honor students

this semester that are great,

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Dash (2): Yeah, the ones that, the,

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ones that were thriving all

along, like they're killing it

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Beck: Yehaw

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Oh my God, I have so

much grading to do today

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Dash (2): I'm about to.

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There, uh, I have 150, uh,

research proposals coming

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to me by midnight tonight.

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Beck: geez.

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Yuck

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Dash (2): Yeah.

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Oh, well

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Beck: I have about 35 more quizzes to deal

with, and then I have six honors projects.

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So the project is pretty simple.

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They have to build a scrapbook over

something from women's studies,

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and they've picked things like

domestic violence and, uh, the

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first wave are two of the ones

that pop up in my mind immediately.

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And then they have to turn in

six artifacts for the project.

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Two have to be either a book or a

book chapter or a journal article.

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Uh, one has to be an event that

they can go to, and then the

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other three are totally open.

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They can be a movie.

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They can be, uh, an actual artifact.

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It can be a song.

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It can be whatever they want.

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They just can't have two of anything.

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And some of the stuff they've been turning

in so far has been really interesting.

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One did a piece of artwork,

which was beautiful.

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Another one did the Sid- Sydney

Sweeney commercial that came out

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this, this past week, the sports one.

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Have you seen it?

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Dash (2): Her naked, basically?

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash (2): I have seen it once.

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Beck: to s- yeah, you have to go

to Instagram to actually see it.

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Dash (2): Well, I, I saw it on

YouTube, which kind of blew my mind

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Beck: Oh, 'cause I looked for it and

couldn't find it anywhere but Instagram,

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'cause I was gonna show it in class.

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Oh, it was on TV?

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Dash (2): Yeah, it aired as an

ad on a YouTube vid- That's the

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only way I would've seen it.

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And c- that's why I was, like, fucking

shocked that I saw it at all, uh,

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because it's, uh, sports betting.

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It's some sort of…

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Beck: Yeah,

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Dash (2): That's the whole point, right?

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She's sh- various versions of

states of nakedness I mean,

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good for her, I guess, but…

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And I doubt I'll ever

see it again on YouTube.

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I'm sure it's been banned by now,

but it did its work, you know?

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Beck: Well, I always ask before

class starts, "Is there anything

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you've seen in the news or on campus

that you guys wanna talk about?"

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Because that's a fruitful conversation

when they really come up with stuff.

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And one girl, her hand shot up

so fast, it was funny almost.

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She was like, "The Cindy Sweeney ad,"

and I hadn't heard about it yet, right?

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So, 'cause it was early last week.

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And so I Googled it, and we watched

it in class, and we had a really

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interesting conversation about

over-sexualization of athletes, which

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I thought was really interesting.

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So yeah, that l- that was

a fun topic this week.

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I had them watch the movie White Like Me

on Thursday, and Wednesday and Thursday.

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Have you ever seen that with Tim Wise?

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Dash (2): Yes.

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that and his um, I know that he has like

a s- an online platform type of thing.

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Those are the only things I know him for

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Beck: Yeah.

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On the Media Education Foundation, I

don't know if your school has access

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to that but it's like Kanopy, and

they have some educational films.

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And they have a bunch of academic

films including White Like Me.

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White Like Me used to be on

Kanopy, but they took it off.

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That's where I, oh, 'cause I show

it in every class that I teach.

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I think it's really important for

white kids to hear about race through

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the white perspective, you know, that

we can do something about it, that

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it is our problem, that kind of thing

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Dash (2): Yehaw Well, the, in the Sydney

Sweeney, that ad, it's interesting

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to me from a sort of celebrity

political economy perspective of…

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So there's sort of a new, the new

wave of child actors and what has

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happened to them, and those, those

old problems of growing up in an

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environment, growing up in celebrity,

growing up in, in the public eye.

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And also the kind of content that,

'cause she was kind of, she got

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famous for being on Euphoria.

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That was a hazard for all of those kids.

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What, what has happened to her, it

could have happened to any of them.

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But also there, she has experienced

controversy before with the,

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uh, the American Was it American

Eagle or American Apparel?

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Beck: A Guess.

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I think it was Guess.

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Dash (2): Oh

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Beck: Was it Guess or am I…

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I'm not sure.

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Might've been American Eagle

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Dash (2): American Eagle.

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Beck: Gotcha

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Dash (2): so that like, they f- she

bore the brunt of that backlash.

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Like whenever everybody read, which

is fair to read like, uh, white, like

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white supremacy vibes in that ad,

in, in hers anyway, you wouldn't read

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it in the other ads that they had

done with that same message, right?

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Like, nobody would read that on Beyonce's.

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Said the exact same thing,

"It's in her genes."

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But, uh, she's not a blonde-haired,

blue-eyed white woman, so they

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didn't read the white supremacist

message into Beyonce's.

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And American E- Eagle dumped

it all on Sydney Sweeney.

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They, uh, their quote response was,

"Oops, sorry, we put a hot white

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woman with blue eyes in our ad."

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Like, they fully just put it on her.

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And when she was asked to

atone for it, she didn't.

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She didn't s- when people were like,

"Well, so are you a white supremacist?"

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And she didn't say anything.

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And that's probably not what her

publicist would've hoped for.

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if sh- assuming she has one.

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They all get media training of some kind.

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But I really empathize with her.

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Whether she is one or not that's not

really what I'm talking about here.

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And, uh, I'm not really making

an apology for that sort of ad,

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'cause it was tone deaf and stupid.

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But what is she, 20-something?

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Beck: Did you see the

Converse ad this week?

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Dash (2): Yehaw

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Beck: Oh, you'll have to

Google that afterwards.

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I'm talking about this

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Dash (2): oh, the Converse ad, uh,

with the, the lynching overtones

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Beck: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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and somebody else said that I was part of

the patriarchy for being mean to someone.

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I was like, "Well, if you're an

American for more than five minutes

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and you don't see the undertones

of this image, then you are clearly

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an idiot with your eyes wide shut

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Dash (2): And I don't

think it's accidental.

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I don't believe that these people whose

entire careers are to play on those

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subcurrents to identify and weaponize

and monetize the most potent American

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unconscious themes accidentally made an

ad that looks like a fucking lynching.

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Beck: It would be different if

American culture wasn't spread

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across the universe like it is.

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You know what I mean?

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So even the Korean people that made

the ad should have some understanding

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of, uh, if they've enmeshed themselves

in American culture and movies and

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music and stuff like that, it's there.

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You know what I mean?

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It doesn't take a lot to figure it out.

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But these people were American

the ones that I was talking to.

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I called a girl an idiot.

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but the people that made the ad were

Korean, and that's the only It's not

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an excuse, but I kinda understand it.

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But again, I think that they had to

have understood it And somebody American

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saw the ad before they put it on the

American Converse site, you know, and

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they didn't say, "Hey, what about this?

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This is bad."

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I always tell my students is one of

the reasons they make you take a class

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like mine is because you're gonna be in

boardrooms and advertising circles and

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decision-making, and you can stop your

company from, you know, bad PR by being

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like, "This is not a good idea Having

some exposure to this kind of stuff

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Dash (2): Yeah, I don't know.

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There's…

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I don't, what I was getting at with

Sydney Sweeney is that I could s-

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w- at her age, like, we like to say,

like, okay absolutely somebody who's

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at her age is responsible for their

for their actions and the way that they

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conduct themselves and stuff like that.

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I would have probably reacted similarly

if somebody had, had treated me the

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way she was treated by American Eagle,

by them saying like, yeah, I know

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they sort of dumped it all on her,

and then everybody running to her

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asking her to make the apology for it.

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I was such a cunt when I was 28.

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I probably would have said something.

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I'm still a cunt.

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I probably would have said something

like she said, which was, "I don't…

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If I wanted to say something,

I would've said it by now."

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Like, I have probably

oppositional defiant disorder.

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The only way to get me to do the

opposite of what you are asking me to

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do is to tell me to do it, especially

if I don't feel like it's fair.

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So now she swims in those waters

because of that first controversy,

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so maybe she's stuck in them now

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Beck: Maybe she likes it

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Dash (2): Maybe she does.

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Maybe she made more money off of it.

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Beck: Yeah, there's no such

thing as bad publicity, you know?

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I gotta say,

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a little bit, I just read it and it

looked like it said the Festival of

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the Burger Ass, and I had to wait

for you to come in more focus to

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understand that it said Bluegrass.

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I was wondering, what the hell is

the Festival of the Burger Ass?

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Dash (2): Well, there's today's title

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This is why s- like, we're

never gonna get any SEO.

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:

Actually, the internet is dead anyway, so

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash (2): I've been…

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Well, when I was trying to

troubleshoot the issue I was having,

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you can't find a website written by

a human anymore, and everything is

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written blog style, and so you…

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I, I, what are we gonna do?

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Like, information is just gone

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Beck: And it's all AI overview no

matter what you Google And it's totally

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Dash (2): Yehaw

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Beck: most of the time

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Dash (2): So we're gonna have to

rebuild the internet when this is over.

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash (2): So far the, there are

a few remaining bastions like

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Wikipedia, which I'm very scared.

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Every time you go to Wikipedia

now it asks you for money

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Beck: I donate

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Dash (2): I have to…

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Maybe that, that's, maybe that's

why it asks me for money every time.

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Maybe if you've never donated

to Wikipedia, let us know

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if it asks you for money

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Pedia needs a Patreon

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:

Beck: Yeah.

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I've probably donated, like, 20 bucks

over the years to Wi- Wikipedia.

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I use it all the time,

so I figure that's fair

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Dash (2): Mm-hmm.

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Beck: And in $2 increments,

you can't beat that.

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So that's fair.

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:

They're like, "We give you

all of human knowledge.

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Give us $2."

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Okay.

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Dash (2): There was, uh, th- this was

in, like, I think the:

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made a Twitter post that said, like,

w- I think in regards to Wikipedia,

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like, we really did build the modern-day

Library of Alexandria just off of nerds'

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incessant need to correct each other.

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'Cause that's kinda what made

Wikipedia, was like, somebody says

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something, somebody else moderates

it, somebody moderates the moderator.

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:

Have you ever looked at Conservopedia?

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:

Beck: Never even heard of it

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:

Dash (2): oh, you are gonna love

this, dude, because it's a guy that…

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So I used to be a Wikipedia moderator

way back in the day and there was a dude

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it you couldn't do that if you had an

ideology, a, a extreme agenda or bias.

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If you were grinding an ax, you just,

that, we, you had to control for that.

516

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And so, like, anybody can and I think

still anybody can edit Wikipedia,

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but the moderation is pretty strong.

518

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It is pretty much, it's basically

peer-reviewed, and this guy was constantly

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editing everything to be re- extr- like

this extreme right-wing kind of thing.

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He wanted to create certain pages that,

you know, couldn't allow, and so he

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:

was finally banned, 'cause you will

get banned from Wikipedia if you try

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:

shit too many times, like if you try

to do too much editing too many times.

523

:

And you're not gonna guess who

he wa- who he turned out to be

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Beck: Two

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Dash (2): Phyllis Schlafly's son

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Beck: I spit every time I hear her name.

527

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That is her legacy.

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' Cause we talk about her

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too

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Dash (2): I don't remember if

his name is, is Philip or Chris.

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Oh, they're cel- I just went to it.

532

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They're celebrating over one

billion page views since they

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were founded 20 years ago.

534

:

Beck: Wow!

535

:

Dash (2): But yeah it's made to look a

little bit like Wikipedia, but it only

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has, like, a couple hundred pages, and

they're just they're political screeds.

537

:

They're just diatribes.

538

:

It's really funny.

539

:

It's fun to, to sit and look through,

Here, I'm gonna share my screen.

540

:

' Cause the, the, it, the, one of the

most interesting things to me is how he

541

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chose what things to make pages about.

542

:

So here's the ver- the

pretty limited list.

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The demonic NFL just stripped the

outspokenly pro-life critic of LGBTQ+.

544

:

W- who?

545

:

This is one of the worst

sentences I've ever read.

546

:

What is this?

547

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The demonic NFL just stripped the

outspokenly pro-life critic of LGBTQ+,

548

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twice Super Bowl winning a- parenthesis,

a- parenthesis, as a player, later as

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head coach, close parenthesis, Tony Dungy,

of his vote in Hall of Fame selections-

550

:

In March, the liberal

media ended his job too.

551

:

So that's some of the worst

writing I have ever…

552

:

And this man is old.

553

:

But that's basically it.

554

:

It's a sort of Wikipedia, it's

Breitbart in Wikipedia clothes.

555

:

So okay, here we got atheism and morality.

556

:

Oh, that sounds kind of boring.

557

:

Conservative humor and satire resources.

558

:

Oh, please tell me more.

559

:

Beck: Ooh, natural lol.

560

:

I wonder what that is

561

:

Dash (2): Where natural

law, where his mom has a

562

:

has an injury here

563

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Beck: under Obamacare.

564

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Georgia, Oppenheimer, conservative

links, Obamacare, natural law

565

:

Dash (2): Natural law is the concept

that there is inherent in human

566

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nature a set of universal laws

necessary for a just community.

567

:

Does he think he's Ray Bradbury?

568

:

What is with these subjunctive

clauses placed somewhere in the

569

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middle of the sentence way away

from the thing that they are

570

:

Some , Not all, consider natural

law to be one of the gifts of God.

571

:

Some, not all.

572

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Some, including atheists…

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:

I can't.

574

:

Get a copy editor

575

:

Obama's religion has its own page

576

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Beck: the Shroud of Turin.

577

:

I can only imagine what

they have to say about that.

578

:

Dash (2): I guarantee it's

in alphabetical order,

579

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Beck: Ooh,

580

:

Dash (2): at least.

581

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Beck: It's under…

582

:

Dash (2): All right

583

:

Beck: to feminism I gotta see

what they have to say about that.

584

:

Dash (2): Feminism is a

destructive ideology Wait a minute.

585

:

This sentence, this second sentence

here, " Feminism denies or downplays

586

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differences between men and women,"

that's the opposite of what feminism does

587

:

Beck: Right?

588

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opposes homemaking, child rearing,

and homeschooling while promoting

589

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participation by women in predominantly

male activities regardless of

590

:

their life pursuits or interests

591

:

Dash (2): Also the opposite.

592

:

Beck: never taken a women's studies

class without telling me you've

593

:

never taken a women's studies class

594

:

Dash (2): Most prominent modern feminists

support abortion and promote misandry.

595

:

I kinda wanna click on misandry.

596

:

Beck: just because that's true for me

doesn't mean it's true for all feminists.

597

:

Dash (2): Right, I, uh, oh,

so you c- your kids, you're

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:

saying I'm a prominent feminist.

599

:

Thank you

600

:

Beck: I need business cards that say that

601

:

Dash (2): attributes common to many

feminists include an entitlement

602

:

mentality and a chip-on-one's-shoulder

attitude, despite often benefiting

603

:

from a life of privilege.

604

:

Which, pick an ax to grind, man.

605

:

Or at least line them

up in some sort of order

606

:

Beck: What does this painting

have to do with feminism?

607

:

Woman with a guitar.

608

:

Is that a primarily

609

:

Dash (2): A haint

610

:

Good point.

611

:

I don't know.

612

:

There's no caption

explaining why it's there

613

:

Beck: The feminist ideology is

particularly dominant in elite

614

:

universities for many large corporations

and competitive women's team sports.

615

:

Feminism claims it wants to make

men and women equal, but in reality,

616

:

it opposes equal support for men.

617

:

Dash (2): Oh.

618

:

Beck: Won't someone think of

619

:

comes to feminism?

620

:

Dash (2): Right.

621

:

the feminisms, the feminists do

today in the midst of third-wave

622

:

feminism, girl, or feminazi-ism.

623

:

Some feminists are enforcers of liberal

censorship and political correctness

624

:

at the expense of free speech.

625

:

You're gonna want to update

this in a post-Trump world

626

:

Okay, let's see.

627

:

Beck: of

628

:

Dash (2): He's

629

:

Beck: second wave feminism and now

what drives third wave feminism

630

:

was derived from communist…

631

:

Oh you, you moved.

632

:

Dash (2): From the communist

doctrine and both have a great

633

:

deal in common, including the

shared goal of the destruction

634

:

of the family and the promotion

of homosexuality and promiscuity.

635

:

Wait.

636

:

Beck: and promiscuity.

637

:

Dash (2): Right?

638

:

Uh, cultural Marxism.

639

:

Okay.

640

:

Whatever.

641

:

Great achievements by teenagers.

642

:

What in God's name

643

:

I can't identify what this is for, right?

644

:

The g- he doesn't do anything without…

645

:

He doesn't do anything that doesn't fit

an agenda, so what's happening here?

646

:

Biologically, the rate of brain

development and according to some IQ

647

:

studies reportedly, in some studies, IQ

reportedly peaks in smart individuals

648

:

just prior to their t- Is this some

pedophilia justification bullshit?

649

:

Oh my God, I'm not

reading any more of that

650

:

Apparently it is both scientifically

and religiously proven that some

651

:

people mature faster than others

652

:

That one made me mad.

653

:

I'm sorry.

654

:

Beck: Professor Values?

655

:

Dash (2): It's

656

:

Beck: a Professor's Values

657

:

Dash (2): Good.

658

:

Beck: Under Hun-

659

:

Dash (2): Good.

660

:

Whoa.

661

:

Beck: between Hunter Biden and the

662

:

Dash (2): This is…

663

:

Okay.

664

:

Beck: Let us see what our

665

:

Dash (2): right, refer to

the common value system.

666

:

Okay, I didn't know we had one of those.

667

:

Embraced by a large percentage

of professors just as Hollywood

668

:

values refer to the common value

system of many in Hollywood

669

:

Toronto professor Jordan Peterson,

who had a teaching stint at Harvard,

670

:

was asked if you should still

send your kids off to college.

671

:

His response was, "Send

them to trade school."

672

:

Right, which he did not do

673

:

Beck: Those who hold professor

values often lacked intimate-

674

:

intellectual humility

675

:

Dash (2): Oh.

676

:

Wait, that's hyperlinked.

677

:

What's intellectual humility?

678

:

Here's a picture of Aristotle to

make it seem like Aristotle said

679

:

something about this, which he did not

Intellectual humility can be understood

680

:

as involving the owning of one's cognitive

limitations, a healthy recognition of

681

:

one's intellectual debts to others, and

low concern for intellectual domination

682

:

and certain kinds of social status.

683

:

That a quote began there but didn't end.

684

:

What?

685

:

Who said this?

686

:

It is closely allied with

traits such as open-mindedness,

687

:

a sense of one's fallibility,

and being responsive to others.

688

:

Who the fuck said this?

689

:

You just, you didn't, you're not

gonna tell me who said it, but you're

690

:

gonna put a little bullshit quote

691

:

Beck: John Templeton Foundation

692

:

Dash (2): Right.

693

:

The bastion of open-mindedness

694

:

Whatever.

695

:

Yeah, so that's depressing.

696

:

Beck: showing me

697

:

Dash (2): I can't remember how I

saw this, probably Some YouTuber.

698

:

Claude Monet.

699

:

E equals MC squared?

700

:

The Scopes Trial?

701

:

Uh

702

:

Where do you see those?

703

:

Beck: A couple under that, above

Battle of Gettysburg and ex-homosexuals

704

:

Under vaccine, there's prime number

705

:

Dash (2): Oh, there it is.

706

:

Ex-homosexual.

707

:

Okay

708

:

Beck: What could he possibly

have against prime numbers?

709

:

Dash (2): Let's find out.

710

:

Okay, first he's just describing it

711

:

The Gospel of John is built

on the prime number seven.

712

:

Okay.

713

:

Fucking God stuff, don't care.

714

:

Oh, as the building block of all

numbers, which is not true, prime

715

:

numbers have a spiritual quality that

has fascinated mathematicians and others.

716

:

This part is in bold and italics,

which is not a formatting.

717

:

Prime numbers are a great

way to learn and teach math.

718

:

What is happening?

719

:

A ma- the link to mathematician just just

goes to the, the Wiki what's it called?

720

:

The one that's just a dictionary

721

:

We- I don't know.

722

:

Anyway, it just has a definition

of mathematician for some

723

:

reason i- in case we don't know.

724

:

Pri- okay.

725

:

Prime numbers are a great way to learn

and teach math, to improve mental acuity

726

:

and focus, to fend off addiction to

understand great works such as the Bible.

727

:

No, no citations here, by the way.

728

:

We're just supposed to ac- accept

that he is an expert in this.

729

:

How do…

730

:

Wait, how do prime

numbers prevent addiction?

731

:

Beck: That's a good question Maybe

732

:

Dash (2): Okay

733

:

Beck: everyone to go around?

734

:

Many biblical parables have-- are

tantalizing similar to prime numbers,

735

:

such as the parable of weeds, Acts

seventeen seventeen, twice prime is

736

:

the midpoint of the New Testament.

737

:

What the hell does that even mean?

738

:

Dash (2): Don't know

739

:

In nature, yeah, multiple species of

cicadas reappear every 13 or 17 years.

740

:

Both are prime numbers.

741

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And a full moon on Christmas

happens every 19 years, also a prime

742

:

number, also all social constructs.

743

:

Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, a

prime number Uh, cicada, so there are

744

:

dozens of cicada broods two of which

appear 13 and 17 years respectively.

745

:

Some of them are six,

some of them are five.

746

:

It's just because years continue

to happen, you fucking moron

747

:

Beck: I Oh, this is hilarious

748

:

Dash (2): God, it's it, it

is, but it's exhausting.

749

:

Okay

750

:

TikTok, meh.

751

:

Friedrich Nietzsche, good lord

752

:

Beck: The Equal Rights Amendment

753

:

Dash (2): Immigration.

754

:

Goodness.

755

:

Anxiety

756

:

Beck: counter examples to evolution

757

:

Dash (2): I saw that.

758

:

There's one about old Earth too.

759

:

The theory of evolution cannot

allow any counter examples.

760

:

False.

761

:

False.

762

:

If any of the 55 counter examples

listed below is correct, then

763

:

the theory of evolution fails.

764

:

Moreover, even if there is merely a 10%

chance that each of these counter examples

765

:

is correct, and the odds are higher than

that, then the probability that the theory

766

:

of evolution is false is more than 99%.

767

:

I it's really an old joke that this

only makes sense to you if you're

768

:

stupid, because stupid people can't

really understand what makes the

769

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things that are smart, smart,

besides being confusing to them.

770

:

And so they think if they can just

sound confusing, they also sound smart.

771

:

Oh boy.

772

:

All right, logical examples.

773

:

Here we go.

774

:

It…

775

:

There's a parrot riding a,

a bike down here Evolution

776

:

cannot explain artistic beauty.

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:

Have, Have you asked it to do that?

778

:

Is that something we asked

evolish- evolution to do?

779

:

Beck: such as brilliant autumn foliage

and staggering array of beautiful

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:

marine fish who- which originated

before any human to view them

781

:

Dash (2): What?

782

:

Beck: Beauty is a sign

of the transcendent.

783

:

It's purely gratuitous.

784

:

We all recognize it.

785

:

We just have to acknowledge

what it points to

786

:

Dash (2): Okay.

787

:

And who's this person?

788

:

I think I'll ask something a

little more knowledgeable than

789

:

Conservapedia who this is.

790

:

Biologist Anne Gouger

791

:

Beck: If evolution were to explain

when human beings came from,

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:

the ev- then every personality

type should benefit human life.

793

:

This is clearly untrue because

the world is filled with liars,

794

:

psychopaths, and murderers.

795

:

These traits clearly do

not benefit humanity.

796

:

Dash (2): Well, I mean, I think

we'd all be better off if a

797

:

couple of those types met you.

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:

Beck: homosexuality were a result

of genetics as many liberals

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claim, and not a sinful choice…

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Then evolution should lead the extinction

of homosexuality, yet to this day

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:

homosexuality exists among humans.

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:

See Causes of Homosexuality

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:

Dash (2): Oh, God.

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:

Beck: That's how I got the gay This is

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:

during long periods…

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:

Yeah, it had said something

about body or- odor.

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:

Marijuana under mer- worst

college, uh, majors Salvador

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:

against him

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:

Dash (2): Let's see

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:

Beck: Rattlesnake snake symbol.

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:

The Wizard of Oz?

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:

What does he have against

the W- Wizard of Oz

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:

Dash (2): This website is trash.

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:

It is not loading, and I think

it's making our lag worse, so

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:

this is gonna be our last one.

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:

Salvador Dali was a Spanish surrealist

painter and sculptor whose work includes

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one of the 15 most famous paintings of

all time, The Persistence of Memory.

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:

Okay

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:

" Dolly's work is featured in Hollywood

movies, avant-garde television ads,

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:

and illustrations of the Bible."

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Oh, 'cause he drew Your Sky Daddy.

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That's why there's an article about him.

823

:

Oh, he was pro-life

824

:

There's no citation on that one

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:

Fucking loser.

826

:

Can you imagine this is

how you spend your time?

827

:

I mean, granted we're podcasters, but

828

:

Beck: I mean, that's an hour a week, like

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:

this has to take a lot more time

830

:

Dash (2): Uh, and he's got, and so I…

831

:

Ugh, man.

832

:

Okay that's enough Conservapedia

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:

Beck: That was fun

834

:

Dash (2): Jesus.

835

:

Well, after…

836

:

I feel like I need a shower after that.

837

:

Some form of self-care.

838

:

So maybe some help from

this week's sponsor

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Beck: Excellent

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:

Dash (2): Ziggy has come up here to

join us, so you wanna say hello, Zigs?

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:

this week's episode of Queernecks is

sponsored by Cousin Mindy's Mindful

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Mondays Now, don't get the idea that

this is some corporate cash grab.

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:

It's just that me and Mindy were talking

about how mindfulness sounds nice in

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:

theory, but more often than not, is made

for folks with extra time and money,

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:

and we don't know many people like that.

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:

On top of the audacity it takes to

rebrand the hard things in life as some

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:

sort of luxury, it just feels like one

of the many things that gets stole from

848

:

you and sold back at a high markup.

849

:

But Cousin Mindy's got a

whole different take on it.

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:

Mondays don't start the work week around

these parts where the service economy

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:

reigns, but they are the only day besides

the one that belongs to the Lord that

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:

Cousin Mindy shuts down the salon.

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:

She'll head out back to the store shed,

clear out floor space, spread across

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:

the bare floor an assortment of rugs,

carpet offcuts, her own plantar fasciitis

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:

relief mats from under the salon chair,

and those sticky blue on one side and

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:

red on the other quad-folding mats from

the daycare she runs during salon hours.

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:

There under the hum of the box fan,

she leads a room of all sorts of folks

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:

in resetting their nervous system

after 72-hour shifts on their feet, or

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:

backs, or fronts, depending on the line

of service we're talking about here.

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:

Nursing aides, line cooks, truck stop

cashiers, railroad brakemen, and slightly

861

:

sheepish, half-peeled drag queens still

subtly dripping glitter across the

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:

floor all breathe a sigh of relief as

they convene in Mindy's welcoming glow.

863

:

Like all communal mutual aid efforts,

Mindy's Mindful Mondays began out of the

864

:

stated need with four out of every five

folks to get in and out of Mindy's chair

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:

groaning with some lower back complaint.

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:

It has since grown into a second Sabbath.

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:

Some folks bring food items and

coolers of various beverages.

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:

Others bring guitars, an upright

bass, dulcimer, and mandolin, filling

869

:

the air with low, warm strings

that vibrate right up through the

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:

floorboards and into your spine.

871

:

And out in the empty lot next door, the

kids roll around in the grass, absorbing

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:

the only weekly communal nourishment they

get where nobody is telling them the odds

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:

they'll burn forever after they die or

asking them to remember four times seven.

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:

Now, Mindy's service has already

run long enough to build a real

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:

tight, beautiful community.

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:

But this right here is her

very first stab at marketing.

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:

So just to be clear, she won't ever

charge money, but it'd be awful nice

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:

if folks stayed to help clean up.

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:

That's Cousin Mindy's Mindful Mondays

in the shed out back the salon.

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:

Come reset your system, align your

chakras, fill your plate, and make use

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:

, of a broom or garbage pail on your way out

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:

Beck: That's one of your best ones.

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:

That was great

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:

Dash (2): Thanks.

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:

I, uh, have been to a yoga

class that is like that.

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:

Uh, out back of the martial

arts gym I used to go to in

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:

Kentucky in Richmond, they had…

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:

They owned a apartment building out

back, like behind the, the garage

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:

where they had their dojo, and one

of the coaches would do, like, DDP

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:

Yoga out there, and we would do that.

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:

We would roll out just whatever soft

thing we could find and put it over the

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:

asphalt and do yoga, and then people

started bringing snacks and stuff.

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:

I miss shit like that.

894

:

I miss redneck shit.

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:

Beck: Yeah.

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:

Dash (2): Mm-hmm

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:

Beck: That's the one thing church gets

right is the fellowship, in my opinion

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:

Dash (2): Yehaw.

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:

And it's because so few

things are actually free.

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:

In fact, a lot of folks

would say nothing is free.

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:

But the, the sort of bare bones, it

comes down to, like, s- there's a cost to

902

:

everything somewhere, and the difference

between community and commodity is a

903

:

community is willing to shell out from

its own stores to produce the thing that

904

:

they get a different kind of benefit from.

905

:

And I just haven't seen that in so long.

906

:

I haven't seen it since

I moved to Minnesota

907

:

Beck: Yehaw

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:

Dash (2): I don't know what creates it

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:

Beck: Don't either.

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:

It's been so long since I've been part

of something like that, I don't remember

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:

Dash (2): Yeah.

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:

Well, on that note, the Queer Necks, uh,

Patreon will, uh, always have a free tier

913

:

and The reason I tried to avoid Patreon

actually is because you can't set it

914

:

up so that the, like, people can just

give you money if they want to, but they

915

:

don't have to be a paid, recurring paid

member to engage, to get all the content.

916

:

But Patreon is so much

more popular, people.

917

:

And it's easy because if you already

have, if you're already supporting one

918

:

creator, you can just from, you know,

g- search them in the app or whatever

919

:

and find another one and support it.

920

:

It's so easy for people to find

you, and so people are more

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:

likely to already have accounts.

922

:

It is fully fucking fall here

923

:

Beck: It's getting there here You're

a few weeks ahead of us, I think

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:

Dash (2): Yehaw.

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:

Beck: I'm not ready for it.

926

:

Like, I'm ready for fall,

I'm not ready for winter.

927

:

Like, I'm just not prepared for colder

weather to start coming our way.

928

:

It just lasts for so long, and it's

929

:

sucks so much.

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:

Oh my God.

931

:

Dash (2): Right.

932

:

Beck: places in America

933

:

Dash (2): Every year it hurts more.

934

:

Like, this is, so many

things about getting older.

935

:

You know, if you've been told

that getting older is nothing

936

:

but awful, you've been misled.

937

:

And I, you know, I hate that for

you, but it's not all bad, right?

938

:

There's plenty of great

things about getting older.

939

:

But the physical pain it's like,

it's hard to ignore that's a thing.

940

:

Beck: Yeah What do you think the

winter equivalent of corn sweat is?

941

:

Dash (2): Well,

942

:

Beck: of a

943

:

Dash (2): Do you remember

the polar vortexes?

944

:

I mean, we're, they're still having those

945

:

Beck: yeah.

946

:

Yeah.

947

:

Dash (2): But that, oh

God, that made me…

948

:

That was one of those, like, that was

the, I think the first weather event

949

:

where that really made me realize,

like, there's places on this earth

950

:

that have weather that, that can

feel like I have never felt before.

951

:

That was wild.

952

:

It was terrifying, actually.

953

:

Here, I mean, it does, there are a lot

of moments like that in winter here,

954

:

but it's kind of built different.

955

:

Like, things are kind of prepared

for it and you can prepare

956

:

for it if you know how to.

957

:

These are the kind of people that

say, like, "There's no bad weather,

958

:

just bad clothing," or something

959

:

Beck: Right?

960

:

Dash (2): Which agree to disagree,

961

:

Beck: that you kinda get used to it.

962

:

Dash (2): You get better at it

963

:

Beck: Well, like my best friend

came to visit and it was like

964

:

March, and it was like a nice day.

965

:

It was like, you know, 40 degrees or

whatever, and we were wearing thin

966

:

jackets, and she was like, "Brr,

it's the coldest I've ever been

967

:

Dash (2): Yeah.

968

:

Beck: And it was like, " It's a nice day."

969

:

Dash (2): Yeah.

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:

I, and you, I think you

get better at regulating.

971

:

Your, maybe your body improves at it.

972

:

And then I get better…

973

:

I, to me, for me, it's a lot about,

like, structuring the day, like doing

974

:

the thing, doing things at the time where

the temperature makes the most sense.

975

:

And, you know, yes having more, the

more appropriate clothing and gear.

976

:

Rue.

977

:

She always looks like you just, like,

caught her and drug her out of a lake.

978

:

Beck: Yeah.

979

:

She goes stiff-legged, you get her

com- comfortable and she chills out.

980

:

She still stays stiff-legged with Shana.

981

:

She's like a little mummy But you force

her to love you and she calms down.

982

:

She chills out, relaxes

983

:

Dash (2): like, "Oh, okay.

984

:

That's fine."

985

:

Beck: learning.

986

:

Dash (2): a noun of Appalachian interest?

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:

Beck: I did.

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:

A good one this week in my opinion.

989

:

Let me get to it

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:

Dash (2): Yehaw

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:

Beck: All right, this week's Down of

Appalachian Interest is the musician Bill

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:

Withers, the musician who gave us Lean

on Me, Ain't No Sunshine, Lovely Day, and

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:

a very good reason to turn up the radio.

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:

Withers was born in 1938 in

Slab Fork, West Virginia,

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:

and raised in nearby Beckley.

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:

His father was a coal miner,

and his early life was rooted

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:

in Appalachian coal country.

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:

Before becoming famous, he served in the

Navy and worked at an aircraft company.

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:

His first album came out in 1971 when

he was in his early That album was

:

00:47:46,946 --> 00:47:50,066

titled Ain't No Sunshine, and most of

us would consider go- getting through

:

00:47:50,066 --> 00:47:51,496

the work week an accomplishment.

:

00:47:51,806 --> 00:47:54,026

Bill apparently had a little

something else brewing.

:

00:47:54,326 --> 00:47:57,146

His West Virginia roots also

helped inspire Lean on Me.

:

00:47:57,436 --> 00:48:01,156

Living in Los Angeles, he missed the sense

of community that he had known back home.

:

00:48:01,456 --> 00:48:04,476

That memory of neighbors helping

neighbors became a song people around

:

00:48:04,476 --> 00:48:05,926

the world could c- connect with.

:

00:48:06,526 --> 00:48:09,196

something familiar about that kind

of help, somebody that will come

:

00:48:09,196 --> 00:48:12,146

get you when your car breaks down,

but you may hear about that check

:

00:48:12,146 --> 00:48:13,716

engine light the entire ride home.

:

00:48:14,116 --> 00:48:18,924

ean on Me appeared in, on his:

album Still Bill alongside Use Me, which

:

00:48:18,924 --> 00:48:21,334

is the one I'm most likely to turn up.

:

00:48:21,752 --> 00:48:26,132

that groove can make folding laundry

s- feel consistently cooler than it is.

:

00:48:26,612 --> 00:48:29,662

Withers belongs in our conversations

about Black Appalachia, too.

:

00:48:29,672 --> 00:48:32,372

His life reminds us how much

of the region's history we miss

:

00:48:32,602 --> 00:48:35,482

when we picture only one kind

of person or one kind of music.

:

00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:38,552

A kid from West Virginia coal

company grew up to write songs that

:

00:48:38,552 --> 00:48:40,112

still help people feel less alone.

:

00:48:40,412 --> 00:48:42,380

That's a pretty good reason to

stream him, even a better reason

:

00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:43,640

to give him another listen

:

00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:46,230

those songs?

:

00:48:46,830 --> 00:48:47,120

Dash (2): Nope,

:

00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:48,540

Beck: Listen to the song Use Me.

:

00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:51,750

It's one of my favorite songs ever, and

I just discovered it like two years ago

:

00:48:52,350 --> 00:48:52,900

Dash (2): Okay, hang on

:

00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:54,790

Beck: It's very funky sounding

:

00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:55,810

Dash (2): Cool

:

00:48:56,202 --> 00:48:58,382

Beck: It would be at home on

the country- on the radio today.

:

00:48:58,442 --> 00:48:59,872

Like, it's so…

:

00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:00,776

it's good

:

00:49:01,490 --> 00:49:04,574

Dash (2): Sweet Now I hear you Whoo.

:

00:49:05,773 --> 00:49:08,463

Every time technology does something,

I just, my heart skips a beat.

:

00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:10,253

I'm like, "Nope, I don't

have time for this shit."

:

00:49:15,853 --> 00:49:21,033

Oh, something super, something really

important happened to me over the weekend.

:

00:49:21,633 --> 00:49:22,143

Beck: What's that?

:

00:49:22,743 --> 00:49:28,322

Dash (2): I got to see Teenage Sex and

Death at Camp Miasma Third film from

:

00:49:28,322 --> 00:49:32,502

Jane Schoenbrun first of which was,

like, uh, We're All Going to the World's

:

00:49:32,502 --> 00:49:36,652

Fair, and then their second film, I

Saw the TV Glow, really elevated their

:

00:49:36,652 --> 00:49:38,697

status, I haven't seen that one yet.

:

00:49:38,697 --> 00:49:41,657

I almost clicked on it, 'cause I, I

l- So Teenage Sex and Death at Camp

:

00:49:41,657 --> 00:49:46,997

Miasma was everything, it was everything

I hoped and also surprised me, which

:

00:49:46,997 --> 00:49:49,927

is, that's what you want, I think,

in a movie that you've been spending

:

00:49:49,927 --> 00:49:51,077

a lot of time looking forward to.

:

00:49:51,677 --> 00:49:56,520

And it's, it's about the horror

movie genre and how queer it is,

:

00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,880

how fundamentally queer it is.

:

00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,380

Like, uh, it doesn't have to have a person

who identifies as queer in it or made by

:

00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:04,590

a queer director or anything like that.

:

00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:07,220

Like, no text has to have those

things in order to be queer.

:

00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:13,290

The slasher genre in particular

is, at its base level, queer.

:

00:50:13,310 --> 00:50:15,490

You can't, there's no argument against it.

:

00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:17,580

And so it's kind of about that.

:

00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:24,450

It's a, a movie that- takes the sexual

undertones or overtones of the slasher

:

00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:29,290

movie and plays with them a little bit

with these, these two women, uh, Hannah

:

00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:34,820

Einbinder from Hacks and Gillian Anderson

from every millennial lesbian's fantasies.

:

00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,300

it has some sex scenes that are really,

you know, uh, really pretty good.

:

00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:40,150

It's, but it's not…

:

00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:42,150

I kinda was hoping for

a little bit more sex.

:

00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:45,910

There is a little bit of nudity,

but not, like, gratuitous.

:

00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:47,290

So I don't know.

:

00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,290

Highly recommend.

:

00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:51,100

It's not scary, so it's not

that kind of horror movie.

:

00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:55,350

It's not even really a horror movie,

but there is a couple of, like…

:

00:50:55,684 --> 00:50:59,154

There's this gag where every time

somebody gets killed they, like,

:

00:50:59,224 --> 00:51:03,568

explode into a fountain of blood,

like a geyser of blood comes out.

:

00:51:05,283 --> 00:51:09,813

So, uh, it did make me think of you

because I was like, "This is probably what

:

00:51:09,913 --> 00:51:12,540

watching these things feels like to you."

:

00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:18,424

the, well, the joke is that, like,

this isn't what makes anything scary.

:

00:51:18,674 --> 00:51:22,024

So, like, there's a lot of,

like, amping up the gore in,

:

00:51:22,074 --> 00:51:23,864

especially in the dude bro…

:

00:51:24,024 --> 00:51:28,604

it's sort of talking about the male

gaze and queering it, and I really

:

00:51:28,604 --> 00:51:33,464

appreciated that, like, the, the way

that the queer gaze can be transgender.

:

00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:35,644

Or sorry, the male gaze

can be transgender.

:

00:51:35,664 --> 00:51:39,884

It can be sapphic and, you

know, lesbian, lesbionic.

:

00:51:40,245 --> 00:51:45,235

don't know if it's for everybody,

but it could be for anybody, whether

:

00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:48,715

you like horror movies or not,

if you're just interested in…

:

00:51:49,315 --> 00:51:50,165

And it's silly.

:

00:51:50,205 --> 00:51:51,055

It's funny.

:

00:51:51,075 --> 00:51:56,505

There are so many moments where I just

cackled e- especially around, like, the,

:

00:51:56,615 --> 00:51:59,855

it's these two people who are both like,

"Yeah, sex is kinda awkward for me."

:

00:51:59,865 --> 00:52:05,935

It really felt like what we were started

out talking about with how, w- maybe an

:

00:52:05,935 --> 00:52:09,895

extreme example of how this aversion to

cringe could impact someone being able

:

00:52:09,895 --> 00:52:14,245

to actually love somebody and experience

intimacy with somebody because you have to

:

00:52:14,255 --> 00:52:17,771

be willing to be cringey to have good sex

:

00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:19,252

. Beck: Yeah, agreed

:

00:52:20,882 --> 00:52:23,862

Dash (2): I can't imagine what their

sex is like, these, these young kids.

:

00:52:24,389 --> 00:52:24,889

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:52:25,189 --> 00:52:25,309

I

:

00:52:26,459 --> 00:52:26,799

from me.

:

00:52:26,799 --> 00:52:28,879

When I do sex ed, they won't take

:

00:52:29,602 --> 00:52:32,052

I'm like, "Put them in the bathrooms

in your dorm," you know what I mean?

:

00:52:32,052 --> 00:52:33,432

Like, spread them around.

:

00:52:33,442 --> 00:52:35,612

There's, there, you don't have

to personally need to use them

:

00:52:35,612 --> 00:52:37,252

to need to use condoms, right?

:

00:52:37,522 --> 00:52:37,962

Like, you can

:

00:52:38,842 --> 00:52:40,422

where it would be helpful for other people

:

00:52:41,022 --> 00:52:45,862

Dash (2): And that's, s- and so there's

three options, two of which are scary.

:

00:52:46,312 --> 00:52:47,502

So either…

:

00:52:47,532 --> 00:52:48,382

'Cause that's universal.

:

00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:51,779

They're not taking the free

condoms from anywhere, or the

:

00:52:51,779 --> 00:52:52,809

lube or anything like that.

:

00:52:53,129 --> 00:52:58,872

Or the only thing that goes anywhere is

the Plan B in the vending machines so

:

00:52:58,902 --> 00:53:02,672

I'm like, "Okay, so you're all, y'all are

fucking and you're not using the condoms."

:

00:53:03,272 --> 00:53:03,682

Beck: Right

:

00:53:03,948 --> 00:53:07,828

Dash (2): or the, the other option is that

they're just buying all their own condoms

:

00:53:08,582 --> 00:53:09,054

Beck: I don't believe

:

00:53:10,245 --> 00:53:14,045

cause they're expensive when you buy them,

and these kids don't have a lot of money

:

00:53:14,370 --> 00:53:18,363

Dash (2): and considering their

demographic, the, sale, condom

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00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:22,743

sales would tell us whether they

were buying their own or not

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00:53:23,343 --> 00:53:26,293

Beck: Whenever I do sex ed, I do--

I have a slide that specifically

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00:53:26,293 --> 00:53:29,533

tells them all the places they can

go around campus and buy condoms.

:

00:53:29,883 --> 00:53:33,443

Like, you can go to the wellness center

and get a bag of 50 of them for 10 bucks.

:

00:53:33,713 --> 00:53:36,913

You can get them at the health center,

and I even show them on Amazon where you

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00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:38,693

can, you know, order them discreetly.

:

00:53:39,017 --> 00:53:41,707

I also tell them about ohiv.org.

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00:53:42,307 --> 00:53:46,347

So, if you're an Ohio resident, you

are entitled to a shipment of free

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00:53:46,347 --> 00:53:49,327

condoms every 30 days through ohiv.org.

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00:53:49,327 --> 00:53:50,417

It's completely free.

:

00:53:50,647 --> 00:53:54,097

It comes in a little yellow envelope

completely anonymously, right?

:

00:53:54,097 --> 00:53:55,577

You wouldn't know what was inside of it.

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00:53:55,827 --> 00:53:57,297

And you can do it every 30 days.

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00:53:57,297 --> 00:53:58,367

And there's three options.

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You can get the lesbian pack, which

comes with dental dams and condoms.

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00:54:01,617 --> 00:54:04,262

You can get the magnum pack, which

comes with the magnums, and then

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00:54:04,262 --> 00:54:05,487

you can get the regular pack.

:

00:54:05,717 --> 00:54:07,487

They all come with lube

and that kind of stuff.

:

00:54:07,727 --> 00:54:12,737

You can also get free HIV testing through

that website and free STD otherwise

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00:54:12,767 --> 00:54:14,857

counseling through that website as well.

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Ohiv.org.

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They're fantastic

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00:54:17,967 --> 00:54:22,747

Dash (2): Put that in the show notes

in case anybody has a short memory.

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00:54:23,623 --> 00:54:25,383

Beck: Oh, they've added latex-free too

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00:54:25,983 --> 00:54:26,693

Dash (2): Oh, good.

:

00:54:26,723 --> 00:54:31,199

That was-- That's been the number

one bug in the ear of these folks, I

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00:54:31,219 --> 00:54:36,329

think, for the past decade, is please

give latex-free co- uh, options.

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00:54:36,769 --> 00:54:37,259

But the…

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00:54:37,269 --> 00:54:41,559

it's, it was so cost-prohibitive for such

a small percentage, and I don't th- I

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00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:45,449

think having, like, sort of worked with

people in the nonprofit space before,

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00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:50,309

like, they have to be able to demonstrate

an ROI to get funds for things, and that

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00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:52,089

was a place where they, you just couldn't.

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00:54:52,689 --> 00:54:56,539

The number of people who are actually

allergic to latex is so small that

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00:54:56,539 --> 00:54:58,019

you couldn't demonstrate a need

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00:54:58,619 --> 00:54:59,789

Beck: I think that's a newly added…

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00:54:59,799 --> 00:55:00,839

'Cause I do it all the time.

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00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,409

That's how I get my free condoms

to give out to students, right?

:

00:55:03,669 --> 00:55:05,699

'Cause, you know, as a married lesbian for

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00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:08,089

don't really use a lot of condoms.

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00:55:08,689 --> 00:55:10,629

Dash (2): you're probably

on a list somewhere.

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00:55:11,229 --> 00:55:11,869

Beck: Probably.

:

00:55:12,395 --> 00:55:15,345

Dash (2): Like, "Oh my God, this

bitch needs her condoms again."

:

00:55:16,262 --> 00:55:19,288

Beck: I also got free Narcan

in the mail the other day.

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00:55:19,288 --> 00:55:21,718

I do all kinds of free offers

when it comes to education and

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00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:22,058

stuff.

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00:55:22,318 --> 00:55:22,778

And I got

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00:55:22,890 --> 00:55:24,360

two doses of Narcan in the mail.

:

00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:26,630

I've been carrying one in

my backpack just in case

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00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:27,540

Dash (2): Yeah.

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00:55:28,060 --> 00:55:30,140

That's a good idea,

'cause it is expensive.

:

00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:36,190

I, w- weirdly, I was prescribed

it after I had my surgery because

:

00:55:36,340 --> 00:55:39,520

they used a, what you call it?

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00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:44,160

For anesthesia, I told them that I

likely had a sensitivity to Demerol,

:

00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,660

I think, because some people in my

family do, and I was like, "You know,

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00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:50,860

it's pretty easy to not use it."

:

00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:51,500

There's other…

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00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:54,250

They, there's all these different

cocktails that these folks can cook

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00:55:54,250 --> 00:55:56,070

up, and they just chose not to.

:

00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:59,770

These are also the same people that, like,

kept, like, misgendering me in the notes.

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00:55:59,790 --> 00:56:02,370

Like, they would put, like,

female in parenthesis every time.

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00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:03,440

So I…

:

00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,810

They just had an issue with me.

:

00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:09,130

But they used Demerol, and they couldn't

wake me up from anesthesia, and my

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00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:12,220

my lungs, I wasn't able to breathe on

my own the way you're supposed to be

:

00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:13,490

when you're coming out of anesthesia.

:

00:56:13,650 --> 00:56:17,050

So they Narcanned me twice to

get the shit out of my system.

:

00:56:17,650 --> 00:56:22,050

And so after that, it was on my

chart, and I think maybe it…

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00:56:22,290 --> 00:56:28,110

You have to do this thing, it's called

a pain contract or something, to be

:

00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:33,050

prescribed pain medication, and maybe it

trig- triggered something in that that I

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00:56:33,050 --> 00:56:37,820

was, like a, a user or something, so they

prescribed Narcan to me when I came out of

:

00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:40,210

the hospital, and it was expensive as shit

:

00:56:40,757 --> 00:56:44,790

Beck: I have a friend whose son

works in Narcan distribution, and

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00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,090

all he does is go out and give

demonstrations in stock places and do

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00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:49,870

all that kind of stuff which I think

:

00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,490

Dash (2): Cool Yeah.

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00:56:52,090 --> 00:56:55,000

I mean, I'm sure that there are days

when the, anybody who does that kind of

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00:56:55,010 --> 00:56:57,410

work is just, kinda like with us, right?

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00:56:57,410 --> 00:57:02,270

Like, anytime you do a job that

is, i- its goal is to help, you

:

00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:03,550

just don't get a return on that.

:

00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:04,210

You know?

:

00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:07,790

You m- also, m- like, majority of

the time you don't get to actually

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00:57:07,790 --> 00:57:10,330

see any evidence that you did help.

:

00:57:10,930 --> 00:57:16,113

Which is why I say to everybody who has

interacted or, or benefited from a, a

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00:57:16,113 --> 00:57:22,033

community resource or a teacher or any,

any person who's been an advocate for you

:

00:57:22,033 --> 00:57:27,233

and helped you in any way, in whatever way

you can, tell them that you appreciate it.

:

00:57:27,273 --> 00:57:31,813

Tell them that you understood what it

cost them to do this day in and day

:

00:57:31,813 --> 00:57:33,353

out if it happens to be their job.

:

00:57:33,783 --> 00:57:36,763

Y- you know, and not all of us want

you to come up and give us a hug and

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00:57:36,763 --> 00:57:38,193

say like, "Oh God, you saved my life."

:

00:57:38,193 --> 00:57:39,293

Like, that's not what I'm talking about.

:

00:57:39,293 --> 00:57:42,703

Like, give them a fucking

Starbucks gift card or…

:

00:57:42,773 --> 00:57:46,933

I've had, uh, it was, there's a, a

subculture at, uh, the m- the campus

:

00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:50,953

I used to work at of kids making their

own little thank you cards which I just

:

00:57:50,953 --> 00:57:54,803

think is adorable, and I got several

of those, and that, that was awesome.

:

00:57:55,070 --> 00:57:56,130

you can make an impact

:

00:57:56,263 --> 00:57:56,553

Beck: on my

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00:57:57,743 --> 00:57:59,963

Notes everywhere with

words of affir- affirmation

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00:58:00,019 --> 00:58:01,069

Dash (2): I remember that.

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00:58:02,443 --> 00:58:02,933

Beck: ass."

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00:58:03,223 --> 00:58:04,463

Yeah, it's still a thing

:

00:58:05,063 --> 00:58:05,663

Dash (2): That's cute.

:

00:58:06,263 --> 00:58:07,143

Well, all right.

:

00:58:07,593 --> 00:58:10,813

On that words of affirmation,

do we have any for Monday?

:

00:58:10,843 --> 00:58:11,373

What are some…

:

00:58:11,493 --> 00:58:12,753

What would Cousin Mindy say?

:

00:58:13,353 --> 00:58:14,953

Beck: Uh, what would Cousin Mindy say?

:

00:58:14,953 --> 00:58:15,553

I don't know.

:

00:58:15,653 --> 00:58:17,143

Y'all don't forget your yoga mats

:

00:58:17,743 --> 00:58:18,473

Dash (2): I'm gonna write…

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00:58:19,073 --> 00:58:23,053

For next time, I'm gonna, let's write

some, uh, a Cousin Mindy affirmation

:

00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:27,396

I did get the wheel of what

have you to load eventually, and

:

00:58:27,396 --> 00:58:29,056

then I had to close it again.

:

00:58:29,516 --> 00:58:30,156

Oh, it opened.

:

00:58:30,186 --> 00:58:30,636

Wow.

:

00:58:31,206 --> 00:58:34,176

I also took some things off of it

that would be, like, maybe a little

:

00:58:34,176 --> 00:58:37,506

bit more work since we're just

struggling to get through the semester.

:

00:58:38,106 --> 00:58:42,986

S- so I will give it a spin

and we'll see what it gives us.

:

00:58:42,996 --> 00:58:45,356

It's also kind of still under

construction, but it'll…

:

00:58:45,506 --> 00:58:47,776

There's stuff th- oh,

okay, we got show and tell.

:

00:58:47,856 --> 00:58:49,496

So that's fun.

:

00:58:50,096 --> 00:58:52,876

We can do that pretty easily,

just walk into any room and

:

00:58:52,876 --> 00:58:54,136

pick up something interesting

:

00:58:54,736 --> 00:58:55,216

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:58:55,226 --> 00:58:56,576

All my stuff is in boxes.

:

00:58:57,176 --> 00:58:57,546

Maybe I'll…

:

00:58:58,366 --> 00:58:58,726

books.

:

00:58:58,766 --> 00:58:59,636

Maybe I'll do a book

:

00:59:00,236 --> 00:59:01,626

Dash (2): A book would be cool, yeah.

:

00:59:02,226 --> 00:59:04,826

Doesn't even have to be

something real in your apartment.

:

00:59:04,916 --> 00:59:06,026

It could be a digital thing

:

00:59:06,626 --> 00:59:07,439

Beck: Oh, true that

:

00:59:08,872 --> 00:59:10,303

Dash (2): It'd be lots of things, just

:

00:59:10,603 --> 00:59:11,023

Beck: Yes

:

00:59:11,695 --> 00:59:15,851

Dash (2): You, something you have that

you think might be interesting or unique.

:

00:59:16,451 --> 00:59:18,271

We can't all be inflatable vaginas.

:

00:59:18,651 --> 00:59:22,103

Oh, there's another title

contender for title.

:

00:59:22,323 --> 00:59:22,453

Oh,

:

00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,429

Well, let's, uh, hit it.

:

00:59:27,449 --> 00:59:30,419

I gotta edit this and grade some papers.

:

00:59:31,019 --> 00:59:33,069

Beck: Yeah, I got a lot of

quizzes to grade today, so

:

00:59:33,669 --> 00:59:36,109

Dash (2): Well, well

everybody, hope you enjoyed it.

:

00:59:36,109 --> 00:59:38,499

Thanks for hanging out another week.

:

00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:39,769

Check out the Patreon.

:

00:59:39,819 --> 00:59:41,189

It'll be in the show notes.

:

00:59:41,789 --> 00:59:47,039

Uh, see if whatever state you're

in has its, uh, its version of OHIV

:

00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:50,089

and, uh, spread the word about it.

:

00:59:50,659 --> 00:59:51,799

That's our mission for the week.

:

00:59:52,399 --> 00:59:52,639

Beck: Yep.

:

00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:53,549

babies

:

00:59:54,213 --> 00:59:54,463

Dash (2): Nope

:

00:59:54,579 --> 00:59:54,909

Beck: motto

:

00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:56,409

No babies on my watch

:

00:59:57,009 --> 00:59:58,039

Dash (2): Not in this economy

:

00:59:58,639 --> 00:59:58,929

Beck: Nope

:

00:59:59,529 --> 00:59:59,679

Dash (2): All right.

:

00:59:59,729 --> 01:00:01,919

Well, be good and say

hi to your mom and them

:

01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:03,059

Beck: Bye

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