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In this episode:
- Conservopedia Raost
- Gen Z Cringe is Just Sparkling Timidity
- Sydney Sweeney's Naked Grift
- Queer Slasher Movie Talk
- Appalachian Interest: Bill Withers
- Dead Internet Theory Comes to Life. Zombie internet, if you will
Transcript
Welcome to Queer Next, the podcast that puts the
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:Yee Hall in y'all means hall.
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:I'm your host, Beck,
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:Speaker 2: and I'm your host.
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:Dash.
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:Welcome to today's episode.
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:Dash (2): To fix the device problem,
I had to move my whole shit over
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:into the other bedroom, which
has worse internet connection.
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:so, uh, the last thing I heard you
say was if you guessed 50 times,
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:which I'm down to do if you wanna
make me guess 50 times about something
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:Beck: You'll never guess
the song in my head is the
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:Dash (2): Oh.
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:Beck: of that sentence
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:Dash (2): That would
probably take more than 50.
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:Is it the Macarena?
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:Beck: It is not, but I used to sing
that, "Hey, Mark and Tina," which
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:were my parents' names The song in my
head, "Everybody was kung fu fighting.
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:Dash (2): Oh, that's a good one.
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:Beck: doo, doo, doo, doo, Doo."
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:Dash (2): Definitely an earworm.
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:Do you remember,
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:Beck: fast as lightning
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:Dash (2): it was like 2001 or 2, a
viral thing of a chipmunk singing
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:that with, It had like, I think,
like nunchakus or something,
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:some sort of weapon in its hand.
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:It was sort of an, an
early kind of internet meme
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:I think it was from a commercial.
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:Okay, now I have to know.
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:Anyway, uh, they made
merchandise of this thing.
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:Is it a h- maybe it was a hamster singing
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:Beck: Remember the hamster dance?
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:Do.
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:Dash (2): kung fu fighting
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:Beck: do.
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:Do-do-do.
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:If that doesn't unlock something in your
brain, we are not of the same generation.
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:Do.
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:Dash (2): Okay.
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:Beck: do.
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:Dash (2): I have it here.
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:Let me see
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:Beck: Do-do-do.
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:Roo doggy
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:Dash (2): All right.
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:You see my screen?
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:Beck: I see blackness.
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:Yes, I see your screen
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:Dash (2): Everybody Wenda
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:Anyway, that, uh, that was a
hamster that spun this nunchuck
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:around and sang Everybody Was Kung
Fu Fighting, and I don't know why.
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:I'll find it, I'll find it and I'll
post the YouTube video in the show
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:notes, and I'll put it on social media.
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:Oh, speaking of, we asked last time
for you know, y'all to submit your,
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:uh, pictures of your cats for the,
the Queernecks Cat Calendar:
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:And our friend Techno Pop Tart l- posted
on the YouTube that the, our, uh, email
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:inbox is going unanswered apparently,
the, the mailbag@queernecks.com.
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:Which we can try to fix
that when we have time.
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:Uh, we would love for to have a reliable
way for y'all to do that kind of thing
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:and not have to rely on social media.
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:But for now, what I've done is
cr- activate a Patreon I had
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:been tinkering with for a while.
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:Like if you want to give us money,
that's really cool, but what we're really
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:struggling to find is a place where
we can actually all have community and
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:reliably be able to have interactive polls
and like we can even go live in there.
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:We could post, we could like put any
video content we want to, if we don't
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:wanna just have it on YouTube, you know?
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:'Cause I'm not, like I feel really
pretty, but I don't always want my face
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:on YouTube or social media or something.
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:Like I'll, I've done it occasionally,
but anyway, this is a place
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:where we could put video content.
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:Not that folks couldn't, you know, like
screen record it and clip it or whatever
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:if they really wanted to and that's,
you know, that's the hazard of being
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:somebody that puts stuff on the internet.
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:But anyway, we c- I, I, 'cause I
can put polls and things in there,
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:and I can create a post Like if we
say like, "Post your cat pictures
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:here," they can be all in one place.
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:And you can join, I can set it so that
it's free to join, and I can make posts
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:that are free to anybody that's in there.
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:So, uh That's active now.
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:There's one post in it, ' cause that
was just testing to see if it worked.
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:But also, if you, like, don't pay
for Spotify or you don't have…
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:You don't wanna support certain app,
uh, whatchacallems, podcast things,
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:and you, you don't wanna hear ads
when you're listening to us, I synced
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:all of our episodes, all the episodes
of Queernecks to this Patreon.
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:You can listen to them without
ads in there if you want to.
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:Cause I would personally like to get
rid of Spotify, uh, es- certainly the
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:paid version of it, and there's just not
an elegant solution for un- or I guess
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:divesting from these tech oligarchs.
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:So if you're somebody that w- is
interested in doing that but you're like,
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:"Man, my, my Queernecks just haven't
made the 21st century leap to Patreon
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:yet like all of the other podcasts have."
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:There are more white trash
podcasts in Patreon than us,
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:so I just figured, "Okay, fine.
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:We'll do it."
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the episode description.
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but we could migrate those over there.
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:We can post it on Substack
though and social media
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:Beck: Sounds good to me
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:Dash (2): we're already, like, more than
a quarter way through this semester.
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:Thank God it's flying
by because it's awful.
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:Beck: Yeah it's wild this semester
is the best word I can use.
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:The audacity of some of
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:Dash (2): yehaw
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:Beck: is just outstanding really
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:Dash (2): it's that, yes.
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:It's that too, and it's
also, like, just me.
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:I knew it was coming, but there's no
way to prepare for how much things
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:have changed since the last time I
taught, and so I'm feeling like I'm
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:just not, I'm not my best, not…
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:i'm just, I'm doing the
best I can, for sure.
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:But what's fucking me up is this
knowledge that next semester I'll
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:do better, and the kids I have this
semester didn't do anything to deserve
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:the worst content that they're getting.
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:I know that's the nature
of starting a new job, but
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:Beck: about
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:Dash (2): I,
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:Beck: at Shawnee.
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:Dash (2): mm
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:Beck: I felt really bad about
teaching English to kids at Shawnee.
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:They had a year of me, and they
have to live with that for the
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:rest of their lives, 'cause I
had no idea what I was doing.
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:I don't teach English, you know?
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:Dash (2): Oh, was it writing?
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:Beck: Yes, it was 101 and 102.
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:Dash (2): Those are, they love to
throw new faculty into those, and
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:those are the hardest ones to teach.
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:I- if somebody has degrees like yours,
you would find it easier to teach
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:literature than you would to teach writing
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:Beck: Right.
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:It was tough.
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:The second semester I didn't even turn in
my syllabus until they were like, "Man,
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:you really have to turn in your syllabus.
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:It's like the law."
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:'Cause I didn't know what
to put on it, you know?
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:I was building it as
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:Dash (2): Oh.
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:Beck: so
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:Dash (2): sounds like you didn't
have a ton of support either.
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:Beck: No, not really.
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:Dash (2): yeah.
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:I've been really fortunate to have that
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:I had a friend that I went to high school
with that actually told me about the job.
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:She was a full-time professor there.
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:She's a PhD.
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:And she let me copy her
syllabus both semesters, so
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:Dash (2): Yeah.
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:Dash (2): Right, yeah.
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:E- especially 101.
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:102 to me has always been way easier, and
maybe it's because I have more reps at it
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:'cause I taught it much more often, but
it's literally just research, you know?
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:It's, it, I mean, y- you are continuing
to develop writing skills and things,
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:but you're, it's a little more
about using, finding, evaluating,
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:and using research and sources, and
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:how
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:Beck: Yeah
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:Dash (2): how to treat those once
you have them, how to find them.
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:Uh, so that one is, that one kind of
creates its own structure in a way.
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:101, oh God, it can look a million ways.
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:And so I made the mistake of looking up
the Minnesota like whatever you call it,
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:core curriculum, Common Core curriculum.
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:It fucking lied to me about
what these students should know.
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:It was like, uh, now incorporates close
reading from grades like e- at least
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:like sophomore to senior year they're
supposed to like practice close reading.
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:Bullshit
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:Beck: Right?
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:I would like to see, like, like
to see them try some of the
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:stuff we did in high school.
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:Like, I read Beowulf in
high school, and I read
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:Beck: in high
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:Dash (2): Yeah.
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:I memorized the prologue to The Canterbury
Tales in Middle English in high school.
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:I don't know why.
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:First of all, like, well, I'm
not saying that's good pedagogy.
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:What did I learn from it?
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:Like, I can, I can in a pinch describe
the differences between Old English,
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:Middle English, Early Modern English.
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:Boy, that's gonna get me
out of a pickle later.
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:If nothing else, it was fun.
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:I felt really smart
'cause I could do that.
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:And that is something…
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:I don't wanna turn this into Pedagogy
Corner, but maybe this is relevant to
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:our listeners, and it is relevant to
just the larger world of media and stuff.
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:There's a, a confidence issue among
Gen Z in at least fields like mine.
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:and Gen Z, I mean, like this ver- you
know, these younger Gen Zs, the ones
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:that are, like, the tail end of Gen
Z, the beginning of Gen Alpha, the
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:ones that are coming to college now.
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:They have no confiden- Well, I don't
wanna say whether it's confidence or not.
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:They say they don't have any confidence.
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:That's what they call it.
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:It's not…
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:I don't think it's that, because
nobody with their level of
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:audacity has zero confidence.
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:I think it's timidity.
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:Nobody
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:Beck: That's a fun word 'cause
it sounds, uh, sounds like titty
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:Dash (2): Today.
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:Nobody who doesn't have any
confidence calls the fucking dean
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:and says, "My teacher doesn't
respond to my emails fast enough."
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:Did you actually have that happen?
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:Dash (2): multiple.
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:We all have.
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:It's a thing here.
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:Minnesotans fully believe that
they can speak to the manager
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:of anything at any time.
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:Um, So I think that this is regional.
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:And it doesn't feel like a
lack of confidence anyway.
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:It feels, And so I've researched this.
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:I'm not just talking
out of my ass anymore.
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:They are reluctant to state anything
they're reluctant to make any claim.
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:They will not express an opinion
about something that somebody else
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:could also have an opinion about.
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:How do I put this?
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:So they won't write a thesis statement.
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:All of their papers are, "But everybody
has their own opinion," and, you know,
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:uh, this, uh, all, all opinions are valid
and this could look this way or whatever.
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:And it's like, that's important
to va- uh, to validate other
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:people's positionalities, but
that's not what you're doing here.
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:You don't want to make a claim because
you're afraid you could be wrong.
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:Like, the worst thing that could happen
to them is being wrong about something.
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:cause I showed them I've got them
reading Me Talk Pretty One Day.
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:And so, you know, Sedaris was it still
is I guess, a big, uh, contributor
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:to, like, uh, This American Life and
All Things Considered, all those like,
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:And in 2012, they did a, I think it was
This American Life, did one of their
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:He did a reading, uh, and he came out
dressed as a clown, uh, full clown
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:getup, makeup, and it was the sad
clown, the old, uh, Vaudeville version,
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:And so I showed them that because
I was like, one day I just asked
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:my in-person class, I was like,
"Y'all Googled him, right?"
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:No, none of them had Googled the author of
the book we'd been reading for five weeks.
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:It's like, does it, do you get the sense
that this is somebody who's still alive?
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:Like, do you occupy the earth
with this person right now?
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:That's not of interest to you?
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:Okay.
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:So I pulled that video and I showed
it to them in class and I said, "Okay.
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:Name a thing you noticed."
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:What's a thing that happened in here?
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:Name a thing you saw."
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:They wouldn't do it, not one of them.
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:And I was like, " Nothing about
his appearance stood out to you?
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:You think he was born looking like
that and we shouldn't comment on it?
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:What the fuck is happening?
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:He's dressed like a clown.
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:Somebody say it."
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:So I started doing research,
as I do, and it's, there's
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:data on the fact that they…
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:And they have told us about it, because
they love to tell us about themselves.
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:They won't say anything about
what's happening around them.
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:And there was, uh, some, actually a couple
of studies, like s- uh, surveys circulated
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:online, and the reason they don't want
to they refuse to express opinions in
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:person, in class, at work, and even
online, they're afraid of looking cringe
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:Beck: Oh, wow
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:that's a rite of passage
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:Dash (2): And they're
determined to avoid it.
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:I think they're determined to
avoid a lot of rite of passages
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:because some really important ones
were stolen from them, you know?
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:The lockdown, we knew it
was gonna impact them.
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:Apparently this- I would surmise
that this is one outcome of their
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:schooling being interrupted in
the way it was by the pandemic.
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:Hyper-onlineness the,
how surveilled they are.
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:Any mistakes they do make are
gonna be public as all get out.
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:Ours got to be private.
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:They were humiliating, but
they were contained in a way.
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:They, there was no…
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:Like, you weren't gonna be the dumbass
who goes viral on TikTok they came-
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:I think they've come by it honestly.
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:It's just, I didn't, I
didn't see that one coming.
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:And so I'm having the, like,
the, the first, like…
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:My, my reintroduction to teaching
has been a whole lot of, like,
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:They were seventh and eighth
graders when the pandemic hit.
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:So they missed a lot of, like,
foundational English, foundational math
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:Dash (2): Yehaw
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:Beck: that you learn in junior high.
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:Science, you learn about cells and, you
know, weather systems and all that, and
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:they probably didn't get any of that
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:Dash (2): And well, and it, there's, even
if some of them did, there's no way to
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:Beck: I've got some honor students
this semester that are great,
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:Dash (2): Yeah, the ones that, the,
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:ones that were thriving all
along, like they're killing it
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:Beck: Yehaw
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:Oh my God, I have so
much grading to do today
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:Dash (2): I'm about to.
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:There, uh, I have 150, uh,
research proposals coming
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:Dash (2): Yeah.
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:Oh, well
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:Beck: I have about 35 more quizzes to deal
with, and then I have six honors projects.
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:So the project is pretty simple.
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:They have to build a scrapbook over
something from women's studies,
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:and they've picked things like
domestic violence and, uh, the
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:first wave are two of the ones
that pop up in my mind immediately.
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:And then they have to turn in
six artifacts for the project.
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:Two have to be either a book or a
book chapter or a journal article.
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:Uh, one has to be an event that
they can go to, and then the
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:They can be a movie.
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:They can be, uh, an actual artifact.
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:They just can't have two of anything.
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:And some of the stuff they've been turning
in so far has been really interesting.
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:One did a piece of artwork,
which was beautiful.
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:Another one did the Sid- Sydney
Sweeney commercial that came out
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:this, this past week, the sports one.
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:Have you seen it?
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:Dash (2): Her naked, basically?
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:Dash (2): I have seen it once.
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:Beck: to s- yeah, you have to go
to Instagram to actually see it.
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:Dash (2): Well, I, I saw it on
YouTube, which kind of blew my mind
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:Beck: Oh, 'cause I looked for it and
couldn't find it anywhere but Instagram,
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:Dash (2): Yeah, it aired as an
ad on a YouTube vid- That's the
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:And c- that's why I was, like, fucking
shocked that I saw it at all, uh,
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:It's some sort of…
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:Beck: Yeah,
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:Dash (2): That's the whole point, right?
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:She's sh- various versions of
states of nakedness I mean,
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:And I doubt I'll ever
see it again on YouTube.
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:I'm sure it's been banned by now,
but it did its work, you know?
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:Beck: Well, I always ask before
class starts, "Is there anything
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:you've seen in the news or on campus
that you guys wanna talk about?"
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:Because that's a fruitful conversation
when they really come up with stuff.
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:And one girl, her hand shot up
so fast, it was funny almost.
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:She was like, "The Cindy Sweeney ad,"
and I hadn't heard about it yet, right?
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:So, 'cause it was early last week.
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:And so I Googled it, and we watched
it in class, and we had a really
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:interesting conversation about
over-sexualization of athletes, which
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:So yeah, that l- that was
a fun topic this week.
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:I had them watch the movie White Like Me
on Thursday, and Wednesday and Thursday.
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:Have you ever seen that with Tim Wise?
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:that and his um, I know that he has like
a s- an online platform type of thing.
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:Those are the only things I know him for
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:On the Media Education Foundation, I
don't know if your school has access
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:to that but it's like Kanopy, and
they have some educational films.
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:And they have a bunch of academic
films including White Like Me.
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:White Like Me used to be on
Kanopy, but they took it off.
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:That's where I, oh, 'cause I show
it in every class that I teach.
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:I think it's really important for
white kids to hear about race through
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:the white perspective, you know, that
we can do something about it, that
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:it is our problem, that kind of thing
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:Dash (2): Yehaw Well, the, in the Sydney
Sweeney, that ad, it's interesting
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:to me from a sort of celebrity
political economy perspective of…
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:So there's sort of a new, the new
wave of child actors and what has
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:happened to them, and those, those
old problems of growing up in an
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:environment, growing up in celebrity,
growing up in, in the public eye.
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:And also the kind of content that,
'cause she was kind of, she got
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:famous for being on Euphoria.
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:That was a hazard for all of those kids.
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:What, what has happened to her, it
could have happened to any of them.
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:But also there, she has experienced
controversy before with the,
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:uh, the American Was it American
Eagle or American Apparel?
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:Beck: A Guess.
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:I think it was Guess.
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:Dash (2): Oh
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:Beck: Was it Guess or am I…
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:I'm not sure.
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:Might've been American Eagle
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:Dash (2): American Eagle.
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:Beck: Gotcha
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:Dash (2): so that like, they f- she
bore the brunt of that backlash.
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:Like whenever everybody read, which
is fair to read like, uh, white, like
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:white supremacy vibes in that ad,
in, in hers anyway, you wouldn't read
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:it in the other ads that they had
done with that same message, right?
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:Like, nobody would read that on Beyonce's.
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:Said the exact same thing,
"It's in her genes."
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:But, uh, she's not a blonde-haired,
blue-eyed white woman, so they
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:didn't read the white supremacist
message into Beyonce's.
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:And American E- Eagle dumped
it all on Sydney Sweeney.
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:They, uh, their quote response was,
"Oops, sorry, we put a hot white
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:woman with blue eyes in our ad."
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:Like, they fully just put it on her.
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:And when she was asked to
atone for it, she didn't.
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:She didn't s- when people were like,
"Well, so are you a white supremacist?"
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:And she didn't say anything.
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:And that's probably not what her
publicist would've hoped for.
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:if sh- assuming she has one.
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:They all get media training of some kind.
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:But I really empathize with her.
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:Whether she is one or not that's not
really what I'm talking about here.
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:And, uh, I'm not really making
an apology for that sort of ad,
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:'cause it was tone deaf and stupid.
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:But what is she, 20-something?
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:Beck: Did you see the
Converse ad this week?
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:Dash (2): Yehaw
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:Beck: Oh, you'll have to
Google that afterwards.
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:I'm talking about this
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:Dash (2): oh, the Converse ad, uh,
with the, the lynching overtones
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:and somebody else said that I was part of
the patriarchy for being mean to someone.
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:I was like, "Well, if you're an
American for more than five minutes
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:and you don't see the undertones
of this image, then you are clearly
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:an idiot with your eyes wide shut
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:Dash (2): And I don't
think it's accidental.
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:I don't believe that these people whose
entire careers are to play on those
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:subcurrents to identify and weaponize
and monetize the most potent American
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:unconscious themes accidentally made an
ad that looks like a fucking lynching.
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:Beck: It would be different if
American culture wasn't spread
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:across the universe like it is.
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:You know what I mean?
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:So even the Korean people that made
the ad should have some understanding
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:of, uh, if they've enmeshed themselves
in American culture and movies and
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:music and stuff like that, it's there.
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:You know what I mean?
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:It doesn't take a lot to figure it out.
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:But these people were American
the ones that I was talking to.
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Korean, and that's the only It's not
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:an excuse, but I kinda understand it.
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:But again, I think that they had to
have understood it And somebody American
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:saw the ad before they put it on the
American Converse site, you know, and
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:This is bad."
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:I always tell my students is one of
the reasons they make you take a class
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:like mine is because you're gonna be in
boardrooms and advertising circles and
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:decision-making, and you can stop your
company from, you know, bad PR by being
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:like, "This is not a good idea Having
some exposure to this kind of stuff
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:Dash (2): Yeah, I don't know.
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:There's…
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:I don't, what I was getting at with
Sydney Sweeney is that I could s-
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:w- at her age, like, we like to say,
like, okay absolutely somebody who's
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for their actions and the way that they
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:conduct themselves and stuff like that.
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:I would have probably reacted similarly
if somebody had, had treated me the
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:way she was treated by American Eagle,
by them saying like, yeah, I know
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:they sort of dumped it all on her,
and then everybody running to her
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:asking her to make the apology for it.
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:I was such a cunt when I was 28.
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:I probably would have said something.
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:I'm still a cunt.
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:I probably would have said something
like she said, which was, "I don't…
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:If I wanted to say something,
I would've said it by now."
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:Like, I have probably
oppositional defiant disorder.
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:The only way to get me to do the
opposite of what you are asking me to
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:do is to tell me to do it, especially
if I don't feel like it's fair.
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:So now she swims in those waters
because of that first controversy,
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:so maybe she's stuck in them now
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:Beck: Maybe she likes it
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:Dash (2): Maybe she does.
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:Maybe she made more money off of it.
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:Beck: Yeah, there's no such
thing as bad publicity, you know?
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:I gotta say,
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:a little bit, I just read it and it
looked like it said the Festival of
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:the Burger Ass, and I had to wait
for you to come in more focus to
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:I was wondering, what the hell is
the Festival of the Burger Ass?
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:Dash (2): Well, there's today's title
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:This is why s- like, we're
never gonna get any SEO.
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:Actually, the internet is dead anyway, so
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:Beck: Yeah
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:Dash (2): I've been…
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:Well, when I was trying to
troubleshoot the issue I was having,
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:you can't find a website written by
a human anymore, and everything is
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:written blog style, and so you…
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:I, I, what are we gonna do?
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:Like, information is just gone
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:Beck: And it's all AI overview no
matter what you Google And it's totally
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:Dash (2): Yehaw
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:Beck: most of the time
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:Dash (2): So we're gonna have to
rebuild the internet when this is over.
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:Beck: Yeah
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:Dash (2): So far the, there are
a few remaining bastions like
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:Wikipedia, which I'm very scared.
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:Every time you go to Wikipedia
now it asks you for money
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:Beck: I donate
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:Dash (2): I have to…
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:Maybe that, that's, maybe that's
why it asks me for money every time.
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:Maybe if you've never donated
to Wikipedia, let us know
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:if it asks you for money
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:Pedia needs a Patreon
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:Beck: Yeah.
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:I've probably donated, like, 20 bucks
over the years to Wi- Wikipedia.
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:I use it all the time,
so I figure that's fair
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:Dash (2): Mm-hmm.
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:Beck: And in $2 increments,
you can't beat that.
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:So that's fair.
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:They're like, "We give you
all of human knowledge.
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:Give us $2."
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:Okay.
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:Dash (2): There was, uh, th- this was
in, like, I think the:
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:made a Twitter post that said, like,
w- I think in regards to Wikipedia,
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:like, we really did build the modern-day
Library of Alexandria just off of nerds'
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:incessant need to correct each other.
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:'Cause that's kinda what made
Wikipedia, was like, somebody says
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:something, somebody else moderates
it, somebody moderates the moderator.
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:Have you ever looked at Conservopedia?
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:Beck: Never even heard of it
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:Dash (2): oh, you are gonna love
this, dude, because it's a guy that…
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:So I used to be a Wikipedia moderator
way back in the day and there was a dude
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:it you couldn't do that if you had an
ideology, a, a extreme agenda or bias.
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:If you were grinding an ax, you just,
that, we, you had to control for that.
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:And so, like, anybody can and I think
still anybody can edit Wikipedia,
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:but the moderation is pretty strong.
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:It is pretty much, it's basically
peer-reviewed, and this guy was constantly
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:editing everything to be re- extr- like
this extreme right-wing kind of thing.
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:He wanted to create certain pages that,
you know, couldn't allow, and so he
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:was finally banned, 'cause you will
get banned from Wikipedia if you try
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:shit too many times, like if you try
to do too much editing too many times.
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:And you're not gonna guess who
he wa- who he turned out to be
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:Beck: Two
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:Dash (2): Phyllis Schlafly's son
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:Beck: I spit every time I hear her name.
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:That is her legacy.
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:' Cause we talk about her
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:too
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:Dash (2): I don't remember if
his name is, is Philip or Chris.
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:Oh, they're cel- I just went to it.
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:They're celebrating over one
billion page views since they
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:were founded 20 years ago.
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:Beck: Wow!
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:Dash (2): But yeah it's made to look a
little bit like Wikipedia, but it only
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:has, like, a couple hundred pages, and
they're just they're political screeds.
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:They're just diatribes.
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:It's really funny.
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:It's fun to, to sit and look through,
Here, I'm gonna share my screen.
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:' Cause the, the, it, the, one of the
most interesting things to me is how he
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:chose what things to make pages about.
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:So here's the ver- the
pretty limited list.
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:The demonic NFL just stripped the
outspokenly pro-life critic of LGBTQ+.
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:W- who?
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:This is one of the worst
sentences I've ever read.
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:What is this?
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:The demonic NFL just stripped the
outspokenly pro-life critic of LGBTQ+,
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:twice Super Bowl winning a- parenthesis,
a- parenthesis, as a player, later as
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:head coach, close parenthesis, Tony Dungy,
of his vote in Hall of Fame selections-
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:In March, the liberal
media ended his job too.
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:So that's some of the worst
writing I have ever…
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:And this man is old.
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:But that's basically it.
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:It's a sort of Wikipedia, it's
Breitbart in Wikipedia clothes.
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:So okay, here we got atheism and morality.
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:Oh, that sounds kind of boring.
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:Conservative humor and satire resources.
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:Oh, please tell me more.
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:Beck: Ooh, natural lol.
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:I wonder what that is
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:Dash (2): Where natural
law, where his mom has a
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:has an injury here
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:Beck: under Obamacare.
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:Georgia, Oppenheimer, conservative
links, Obamacare, natural law
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:Dash (2): Natural law is the concept
that there is inherent in human
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:nature a set of universal laws
necessary for a just community.
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:Does he think he's Ray Bradbury?
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:What is with these subjunctive
clauses placed somewhere in the
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from the thing that they are
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:Some , Not all, consider natural
law to be one of the gifts of God.
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:Some, not all.
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:Some, including atheists…
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:I can't.
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:Get a copy editor
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:Obama's religion has its own page
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:Beck: the Shroud of Turin.
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:I can only imagine what
they have to say about that.
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:Dash (2): I guarantee it's
in alphabetical order,
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:Beck: Ooh,
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:Dash (2): at least.
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:Beck: It's under…
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:Dash (2): All right
583
:Beck: to feminism I gotta see
what they have to say about that.
584
:Dash (2): Feminism is a
destructive ideology Wait a minute.
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:This sentence, this second sentence
here, " Feminism denies or downplays
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:differences between men and women,"
that's the opposite of what feminism does
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:Beck: Right?
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:opposes homemaking, child rearing,
and homeschooling while promoting
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:participation by women in predominantly
male activities regardless of
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:their life pursuits or interests
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:Dash (2): Also the opposite.
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:Beck: never taken a women's studies
class without telling me you've
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:never taken a women's studies class
594
:Dash (2): Most prominent modern feminists
support abortion and promote misandry.
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:I kinda wanna click on misandry.
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:Beck: just because that's true for me
doesn't mean it's true for all feminists.
597
:Dash (2): Right, I, uh, oh,
so you c- your kids, you're
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:saying I'm a prominent feminist.
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:Thank you
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:Beck: I need business cards that say that
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:Dash (2): attributes common to many
feminists include an entitlement
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:mentality and a chip-on-one's-shoulder
attitude, despite often benefiting
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:from a life of privilege.
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:Which, pick an ax to grind, man.
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:Or at least line them
up in some sort of order
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:Beck: What does this painting
have to do with feminism?
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:Woman with a guitar.
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:Is that a primarily
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:Dash (2): A haint
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:Good point.
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:I don't know.
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:There's no caption
explaining why it's there
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:Beck: The feminist ideology is
particularly dominant in elite
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:universities for many large corporations
and competitive women's team sports.
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:Feminism claims it wants to make
men and women equal, but in reality,
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:it opposes equal support for men.
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:Dash (2): Oh.
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:Beck: Won't someone think of
619
:comes to feminism?
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:Dash (2): Right.
621
:the feminisms, the feminists do
today in the midst of third-wave
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:feminism, girl, or feminazi-ism.
623
:Some feminists are enforcers of liberal
censorship and political correctness
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:at the expense of free speech.
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:You're gonna want to update
this in a post-Trump world
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:Okay, let's see.
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:Beck: of
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:Dash (2): He's
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:Beck: second wave feminism and now
what drives third wave feminism
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:was derived from communist…
631
:Oh you, you moved.
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:Dash (2): From the communist
doctrine and both have a great
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:deal in common, including the
shared goal of the destruction
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:of the family and the promotion
of homosexuality and promiscuity.
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:Wait.
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:Beck: and promiscuity.
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:Dash (2): Right?
638
:Uh, cultural Marxism.
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:Okay.
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:Whatever.
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:Great achievements by teenagers.
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:What in God's name
643
:I can't identify what this is for, right?
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:The g- he doesn't do anything without…
645
:He doesn't do anything that doesn't fit
an agenda, so what's happening here?
646
:Biologically, the rate of brain
development and according to some IQ
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:studies reportedly, in some studies, IQ
reportedly peaks in smart individuals
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:just prior to their t- Is this some
pedophilia justification bullshit?
649
:Oh my God, I'm not
reading any more of that
650
:Apparently it is both scientifically
and religiously proven that some
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:people mature faster than others
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:That one made me mad.
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:I'm sorry.
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:Beck: Professor Values?
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:Dash (2): It's
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:Beck: a Professor's Values
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:Dash (2): Good.
658
:Beck: Under Hun-
659
:Dash (2): Good.
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:Whoa.
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:Beck: between Hunter Biden and the
662
:Dash (2): This is…
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:Okay.
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:Beck: Let us see what our
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:Dash (2): right, refer to
the common value system.
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:Okay, I didn't know we had one of those.
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:Embraced by a large percentage
of professors just as Hollywood
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:values refer to the common value
system of many in Hollywood
669
:Toronto professor Jordan Peterson,
who had a teaching stint at Harvard,
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:was asked if you should still
send your kids off to college.
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:His response was, "Send
them to trade school."
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:Right, which he did not do
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:Beck: Those who hold professor
values often lacked intimate-
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:intellectual humility
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:Dash (2): Oh.
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:Wait, that's hyperlinked.
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:What's intellectual humility?
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:Here's a picture of Aristotle to
make it seem like Aristotle said
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:something about this, which he did not
Intellectual humility can be understood
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:as involving the owning of one's cognitive
limitations, a healthy recognition of
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:one's intellectual debts to others, and
low concern for intellectual domination
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:and certain kinds of social status.
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:That a quote began there but didn't end.
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:What?
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:Who said this?
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:It is closely allied with
traits such as open-mindedness,
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:a sense of one's fallibility,
and being responsive to others.
688
:Who the fuck said this?
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:You just, you didn't, you're not
gonna tell me who said it, but you're
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:gonna put a little bullshit quote
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:Beck: John Templeton Foundation
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:Dash (2): Right.
693
:The bastion of open-mindedness
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:Whatever.
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:Yeah, so that's depressing.
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:Beck: showing me
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:Dash (2): I can't remember how I
saw this, probably Some YouTuber.
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:Claude Monet.
699
:E equals MC squared?
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:The Scopes Trial?
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:Uh
702
:Where do you see those?
703
:Beck: A couple under that, above
Battle of Gettysburg and ex-homosexuals
704
:Under vaccine, there's prime number
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:Dash (2): Oh, there it is.
706
:Ex-homosexual.
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:Okay
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:Beck: What could he possibly
have against prime numbers?
709
:Dash (2): Let's find out.
710
:Okay, first he's just describing it
711
:The Gospel of John is built
on the prime number seven.
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:Okay.
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:Fucking God stuff, don't care.
714
:Oh, as the building block of all
numbers, which is not true, prime
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:numbers have a spiritual quality that
has fascinated mathematicians and others.
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:This part is in bold and italics,
which is not a formatting.
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:Prime numbers are a great
way to learn and teach math.
718
:What is happening?
719
:A ma- the link to mathematician just just
goes to the, the Wiki what's it called?
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:The one that's just a dictionary
721
:We- I don't know.
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:Anyway, it just has a definition
of mathematician for some
723
:reason i- in case we don't know.
724
:Pri- okay.
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:Prime numbers are a great way to learn
and teach math, to improve mental acuity
726
:and focus, to fend off addiction to
understand great works such as the Bible.
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:No, no citations here, by the way.
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:We're just supposed to ac- accept
that he is an expert in this.
729
:How do…
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:Wait, how do prime
numbers prevent addiction?
731
:Beck: That's a good question Maybe
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:Dash (2): Okay
733
:Beck: everyone to go around?
734
:Many biblical parables have-- are
tantalizing similar to prime numbers,
735
:such as the parable of weeds, Acts
seventeen seventeen, twice prime is
736
:the midpoint of the New Testament.
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:What the hell does that even mean?
738
:Dash (2): Don't know
739
:In nature, yeah, multiple species of
cicadas reappear every 13 or 17 years.
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:Both are prime numbers.
741
:And a full moon on Christmas
happens every 19 years, also a prime
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:number, also all social constructs.
743
:Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, a
prime number Uh, cicada, so there are
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:dozens of cicada broods two of which
appear 13 and 17 years respectively.
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:Some of them are six,
some of them are five.
746
:It's just because years continue
to happen, you fucking moron
747
:Beck: I Oh, this is hilarious
748
:Dash (2): God, it's it, it
is, but it's exhausting.
749
:Okay
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:TikTok, meh.
751
:Friedrich Nietzsche, good lord
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:Beck: The Equal Rights Amendment
753
:Dash (2): Immigration.
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:Goodness.
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:Anxiety
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:Beck: counter examples to evolution
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:Dash (2): I saw that.
758
:There's one about old Earth too.
759
:The theory of evolution cannot
allow any counter examples.
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:False.
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:False.
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:If any of the 55 counter examples
listed below is correct, then
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:the theory of evolution fails.
764
:Moreover, even if there is merely a 10%
chance that each of these counter examples
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:is correct, and the odds are higher than
that, then the probability that the theory
766
:of evolution is false is more than 99%.
767
:I it's really an old joke that this
only makes sense to you if you're
768
:stupid, because stupid people can't
really understand what makes the
769
:things that are smart, smart,
besides being confusing to them.
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:And so they think if they can just
sound confusing, they also sound smart.
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:Oh boy.
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:All right, logical examples.
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:Here we go.
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:It…
775
:There's a parrot riding a,
a bike down here Evolution
776
:cannot explain artistic beauty.
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:Have, Have you asked it to do that?
778
:Is that something we asked
evolish- evolution to do?
779
:Beck: such as brilliant autumn foliage
and staggering array of beautiful
780
:marine fish who- which originated
before any human to view them
781
:Dash (2): What?
782
:Beck: Beauty is a sign
of the transcendent.
783
:It's purely gratuitous.
784
:We all recognize it.
785
:We just have to acknowledge
what it points to
786
:Dash (2): Okay.
787
:And who's this person?
788
:I think I'll ask something a
little more knowledgeable than
789
:Conservapedia who this is.
790
:Biologist Anne Gouger
791
:Beck: If evolution were to explain
when human beings came from,
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:the ev- then every personality
type should benefit human life.
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:This is clearly untrue because
the world is filled with liars,
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:psychopaths, and murderers.
795
:These traits clearly do
not benefit humanity.
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:Dash (2): Well, I mean, I think
we'd all be better off if a
797
:couple of those types met you.
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:Beck: homosexuality were a result
of genetics as many liberals
799
:claim, and not a sinful choice…
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:Then evolution should lead the extinction
of homosexuality, yet to this day
801
:homosexuality exists among humans.
802
:See Causes of Homosexuality
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:Dash (2): Oh, God.
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:Beck: That's how I got the gay This is
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:during long periods…
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:Yeah, it had said something
about body or- odor.
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:Marijuana under mer- worst
college, uh, majors Salvador
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:against him
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:Dash (2): Let's see
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:Beck: Rattlesnake snake symbol.
811
:The Wizard of Oz?
812
:What does he have against
the W- Wizard of Oz
813
:Dash (2): This website is trash.
814
:It is not loading, and I think
it's making our lag worse, so
815
:this is gonna be our last one.
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:Salvador Dali was a Spanish surrealist
painter and sculptor whose work includes
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:one of the 15 most famous paintings of
all time, The Persistence of Memory.
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:Okay
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:" Dolly's work is featured in Hollywood
movies, avant-garde television ads,
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:and illustrations of the Bible."
821
:Oh, 'cause he drew Your Sky Daddy.
822
:That's why there's an article about him.
823
:Oh, he was pro-life
824
:There's no citation on that one
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:Fucking loser.
826
:Can you imagine this is
how you spend your time?
827
:I mean, granted we're podcasters, but
828
:Beck: I mean, that's an hour a week, like
829
:this has to take a lot more time
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:Dash (2): Uh, and he's got, and so I…
831
:Ugh, man.
832
:Okay that's enough Conservapedia
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:Beck: That was fun
834
:Dash (2): Jesus.
835
:Well, after…
836
:I feel like I need a shower after that.
837
:Some form of self-care.
838
:So maybe some help from
this week's sponsor
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:Beck: Excellent
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:Dash (2): Ziggy has come up here to
join us, so you wanna say hello, Zigs?
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:this week's episode of Queernecks is
sponsored by Cousin Mindy's Mindful
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:Mondays Now, don't get the idea that
this is some corporate cash grab.
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:It's just that me and Mindy were talking
about how mindfulness sounds nice in
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:theory, but more often than not, is made
for folks with extra time and money,
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:and we don't know many people like that.
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:On top of the audacity it takes to
rebrand the hard things in life as some
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:sort of luxury, it just feels like one
of the many things that gets stole from
848
:you and sold back at a high markup.
849
:But Cousin Mindy's got a
whole different take on it.
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:Mondays don't start the work week around
these parts where the service economy
851
:reigns, but they are the only day besides
the one that belongs to the Lord that
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:Cousin Mindy shuts down the salon.
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:She'll head out back to the store shed,
clear out floor space, spread across
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:the bare floor an assortment of rugs,
carpet offcuts, her own plantar fasciitis
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:relief mats from under the salon chair,
and those sticky blue on one side and
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:red on the other quad-folding mats from
the daycare she runs during salon hours.
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:There under the hum of the box fan,
she leads a room of all sorts of folks
858
:in resetting their nervous system
after 72-hour shifts on their feet, or
859
:backs, or fronts, depending on the line
of service we're talking about here.
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:Nursing aides, line cooks, truck stop
cashiers, railroad brakemen, and slightly
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:sheepish, half-peeled drag queens still
subtly dripping glitter across the
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:floor all breathe a sigh of relief as
they convene in Mindy's welcoming glow.
863
:Like all communal mutual aid efforts,
Mindy's Mindful Mondays began out of the
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:stated need with four out of every five
folks to get in and out of Mindy's chair
865
:groaning with some lower back complaint.
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:It has since grown into a second Sabbath.
867
:Some folks bring food items and
coolers of various beverages.
868
:Others bring guitars, an upright
bass, dulcimer, and mandolin, filling
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:the air with low, warm strings
that vibrate right up through the
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:floorboards and into your spine.
871
:And out in the empty lot next door, the
kids roll around in the grass, absorbing
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:the only weekly communal nourishment they
get where nobody is telling them the odds
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:they'll burn forever after they die or
asking them to remember four times seven.
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:Now, Mindy's service has already
run long enough to build a real
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:tight, beautiful community.
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:But this right here is her
very first stab at marketing.
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:So just to be clear, she won't ever
charge money, but it'd be awful nice
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:if folks stayed to help clean up.
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:That's Cousin Mindy's Mindful Mondays
in the shed out back the salon.
880
:Come reset your system, align your
chakras, fill your plate, and make use
881
:, of a broom or garbage pail on your way out
882
:Beck: That's one of your best ones.
883
:That was great
884
:Dash (2): Thanks.
885
:I, uh, have been to a yoga
class that is like that.
886
:Uh, out back of the martial
arts gym I used to go to in
887
:Kentucky in Richmond, they had…
888
:They owned a apartment building out
back, like behind the, the garage
889
:where they had their dojo, and one
of the coaches would do, like, DDP
890
:Yoga out there, and we would do that.
891
:We would roll out just whatever soft
thing we could find and put it over the
892
:asphalt and do yoga, and then people
started bringing snacks and stuff.
893
:I miss shit like that.
894
:I miss redneck shit.
895
:Beck: Yeah.
896
:Dash (2): Mm-hmm
897
:Beck: That's the one thing church gets
right is the fellowship, in my opinion
898
:Dash (2): Yehaw.
899
:And it's because so few
things are actually free.
900
:In fact, a lot of folks
would say nothing is free.
901
:But the, the sort of bare bones, it
comes down to, like, s- there's a cost to
902
:everything somewhere, and the difference
between community and commodity is a
903
:community is willing to shell out from
its own stores to produce the thing that
904
:they get a different kind of benefit from.
905
:And I just haven't seen that in so long.
906
:I haven't seen it since
I moved to Minnesota
907
:Beck: Yehaw
908
:Dash (2): I don't know what creates it
909
:Beck: Don't either.
910
:It's been so long since I've been part
of something like that, I don't remember
911
:Dash (2): Yeah.
912
:Well, on that note, the Queer Necks, uh,
Patreon will, uh, always have a free tier
913
:and The reason I tried to avoid Patreon
actually is because you can't set it
914
:up so that the, like, people can just
give you money if they want to, but they
915
:don't have to be a paid, recurring paid
member to engage, to get all the content.
916
:But Patreon is so much
more popular, people.
917
:And it's easy because if you already
have, if you're already supporting one
918
:creator, you can just from, you know,
g- search them in the app or whatever
919
:and find another one and support it.
920
:It's so easy for people to find
you, and so people are more
921
:likely to already have accounts.
922
:It is fully fucking fall here
923
:Beck: It's getting there here You're
a few weeks ahead of us, I think
924
:Dash (2): Yehaw.
925
:Beck: I'm not ready for it.
926
:Like, I'm ready for fall,
I'm not ready for winter.
927
:Like, I'm just not prepared for colder
weather to start coming our way.
928
:It just lasts for so long, and it's
929
:sucks so much.
930
:Oh my God.
931
:Dash (2): Right.
932
:Beck: places in America
933
:Dash (2): Every year it hurts more.
934
:Like, this is, so many
things about getting older.
935
:You know, if you've been told
that getting older is nothing
936
:but awful, you've been misled.
937
:And I, you know, I hate that for
you, but it's not all bad, right?
938
:There's plenty of great
things about getting older.
939
:But the physical pain it's like,
it's hard to ignore that's a thing.
940
:Beck: Yeah What do you think the
winter equivalent of corn sweat is?
941
:Dash (2): Well,
942
:Beck: of a
943
:Dash (2): Do you remember
the polar vortexes?
944
:I mean, we're, they're still having those
945
:Beck: yeah.
946
:Yeah.
947
:Dash (2): But that, oh
God, that made me…
948
:That was one of those, like, that was
the, I think the first weather event
949
:where that really made me realize,
like, there's places on this earth
950
:that have weather that, that can
feel like I have never felt before.
951
:That was wild.
952
:It was terrifying, actually.
953
:Here, I mean, it does, there are a lot
of moments like that in winter here,
954
:but it's kind of built different.
955
:Like, things are kind of prepared
for it and you can prepare
956
:for it if you know how to.
957
:These are the kind of people that
say, like, "There's no bad weather,
958
:just bad clothing," or something
959
:Beck: Right?
960
:Dash (2): Which agree to disagree,
961
:Beck: that you kinda get used to it.
962
:Dash (2): You get better at it
963
:Beck: Well, like my best friend
came to visit and it was like
964
:March, and it was like a nice day.
965
:It was like, you know, 40 degrees or
whatever, and we were wearing thin
966
:jackets, and she was like, "Brr,
it's the coldest I've ever been
967
:Dash (2): Yeah.
968
:Beck: And it was like, " It's a nice day."
969
:Dash (2): Yeah.
970
:I, and you, I think you
get better at regulating.
971
:Your, maybe your body improves at it.
972
:And then I get better…
973
:I, to me, for me, it's a lot about,
like, structuring the day, like doing
974
:the thing, doing things at the time where
the temperature makes the most sense.
975
:And, you know, yes having more, the
more appropriate clothing and gear.
976
:Rue.
977
:She always looks like you just, like,
caught her and drug her out of a lake.
978
:Beck: Yeah.
979
:She goes stiff-legged, you get her
com- comfortable and she chills out.
980
:She still stays stiff-legged with Shana.
981
:She's like a little mummy But you force
her to love you and she calms down.
982
:She chills out, relaxes
983
:Dash (2): like, "Oh, okay.
984
:That's fine."
985
:Beck: learning.
986
:Dash (2): a noun of Appalachian interest?
987
:Beck: I did.
988
:A good one this week in my opinion.
989
:Let me get to it
990
:Dash (2): Yehaw
991
:Beck: All right, this week's Down of
Appalachian Interest is the musician Bill
992
:Withers, the musician who gave us Lean
on Me, Ain't No Sunshine, Lovely Day, and
993
:a very good reason to turn up the radio.
994
:Withers was born in 1938 in
Slab Fork, West Virginia,
995
:and raised in nearby Beckley.
996
:His father was a coal miner,
and his early life was rooted
997
:in Appalachian coal country.
998
:Before becoming famous, he served in the
Navy and worked at an aircraft company.
999
:His first album came out in 1971 when
he was in his early That album was
:
00:47:46,946 --> 00:47:50,066
titled Ain't No Sunshine, and most of
us would consider go- getting through
:
00:47:50,066 --> 00:47:51,496
the work week an accomplishment.
:
00:47:51,806 --> 00:47:54,026
Bill apparently had a little
something else brewing.
:
00:47:54,326 --> 00:47:57,146
His West Virginia roots also
helped inspire Lean on Me.
:
00:47:57,436 --> 00:48:01,156
Living in Los Angeles, he missed the sense
of community that he had known back home.
:
00:48:01,456 --> 00:48:04,476
That memory of neighbors helping
neighbors became a song people around
:
00:48:04,476 --> 00:48:05,926
the world could c- connect with.
:
00:48:06,526 --> 00:48:09,196
something familiar about that kind
of help, somebody that will come
:
00:48:09,196 --> 00:48:12,146
get you when your car breaks down,
but you may hear about that check
:
00:48:12,146 --> 00:48:13,716
engine light the entire ride home.
:
00:48:14,116 --> 00:48:18,924
ean on Me appeared in, on his:album Still Bill alongside Use Me, which
:
00:48:18,924 --> 00:48:21,334
is the one I'm most likely to turn up.
:
00:48:21,752 --> 00:48:26,132
that groove can make folding laundry
s- feel consistently cooler than it is.
:
00:48:26,612 --> 00:48:29,662
Withers belongs in our conversations
about Black Appalachia, too.
:
00:48:29,672 --> 00:48:32,372
His life reminds us how much
of the region's history we miss
:
00:48:32,602 --> 00:48:35,482
when we picture only one kind
of person or one kind of music.
:
00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:38,552
A kid from West Virginia coal
company grew up to write songs that
:
00:48:38,552 --> 00:48:40,112
still help people feel less alone.
:
00:48:40,412 --> 00:48:42,380
That's a pretty good reason to
stream him, even a better reason
:
00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:43,640
to give him another listen
:
00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:46,230
those songs?
:
00:48:46,830 --> 00:48:47,120
Dash (2): Nope,
:
00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:48,540
Beck: Listen to the song Use Me.
:
00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:51,750
It's one of my favorite songs ever, and
I just discovered it like two years ago
:
00:48:52,350 --> 00:48:52,900
Dash (2): Okay, hang on
:
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:54,790
Beck: It's very funky sounding
:
00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:55,810
Dash (2): Cool
:
00:48:56,202 --> 00:48:58,382
Beck: It would be at home on
the country- on the radio today.
:
00:48:58,442 --> 00:48:59,872
Like, it's so…
:
00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:00,776
it's good
:
00:49:01,490 --> 00:49:04,574
Dash (2): Sweet Now I hear you Whoo.
:
00:49:05,773 --> 00:49:08,463
Every time technology does something,
I just, my heart skips a beat.
:
00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:10,253
I'm like, "Nope, I don't
have time for this shit."
:
00:49:15,853 --> 00:49:21,033
Oh, something super, something really
important happened to me over the weekend.
:
00:49:21,633 --> 00:49:22,143
Beck: What's that?
:
00:49:22,743 --> 00:49:28,322
Dash (2): I got to see Teenage Sex and
Death at Camp Miasma Third film from
:
00:49:28,322 --> 00:49:32,502
Jane Schoenbrun first of which was,
like, uh, We're All Going to the World's
:
00:49:32,502 --> 00:49:36,652
Fair, and then their second film, I
Saw the TV Glow, really elevated their
:
00:49:36,652 --> 00:49:38,697
status, I haven't seen that one yet.
:
00:49:38,697 --> 00:49:41,657
I almost clicked on it, 'cause I, I
l- So Teenage Sex and Death at Camp
:
00:49:41,657 --> 00:49:46,997
Miasma was everything, it was everything
I hoped and also surprised me, which
:
00:49:46,997 --> 00:49:49,927
is, that's what you want, I think,
in a movie that you've been spending
:
00:49:49,927 --> 00:49:51,077
a lot of time looking forward to.
:
00:49:51,677 --> 00:49:56,520
And it's, it's about the horror
movie genre and how queer it is,
:
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,880
how fundamentally queer it is.
:
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,380
Like, uh, it doesn't have to have a person
who identifies as queer in it or made by
:
00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:04,590
a queer director or anything like that.
:
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:07,220
Like, no text has to have those
things in order to be queer.
:
00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:13,290
The slasher genre in particular
is, at its base level, queer.
:
00:50:13,310 --> 00:50:15,490
You can't, there's no argument against it.
:
00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:17,580
And so it's kind of about that.
:
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:24,450
It's a, a movie that- takes the sexual
undertones or overtones of the slasher
:
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:29,290
movie and plays with them a little bit
with these, these two women, uh, Hannah
:
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:34,820
Einbinder from Hacks and Gillian Anderson
from every millennial lesbian's fantasies.
:
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,300
it has some sex scenes that are really,
you know, uh, really pretty good.
:
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:40,150
It's, but it's not…
:
00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:42,150
I kinda was hoping for
a little bit more sex.
:
00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:45,910
There is a little bit of nudity,
but not, like, gratuitous.
:
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:47,290
So I don't know.
:
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,290
Highly recommend.
:
00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:51,100
It's not scary, so it's not
that kind of horror movie.
:
00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:55,350
It's not even really a horror movie,
but there is a couple of, like…
:
00:50:55,684 --> 00:50:59,154
There's this gag where every time
somebody gets killed they, like,
:
00:50:59,224 --> 00:51:03,568
explode into a fountain of blood,
like a geyser of blood comes out.
:
00:51:05,283 --> 00:51:09,813
So, uh, it did make me think of you
because I was like, "This is probably what
:
00:51:09,913 --> 00:51:12,540
watching these things feels like to you."
:
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:18,424
the, well, the joke is that, like,
this isn't what makes anything scary.
:
00:51:18,674 --> 00:51:22,024
So, like, there's a lot of,
like, amping up the gore in,
:
00:51:22,074 --> 00:51:23,864
especially in the dude bro…
:
00:51:24,024 --> 00:51:28,604
it's sort of talking about the male
gaze and queering it, and I really
:
00:51:28,604 --> 00:51:33,464
appreciated that, like, the, the way
that the queer gaze can be transgender.
:
00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:35,644
Or sorry, the male gaze
can be transgender.
:
00:51:35,664 --> 00:51:39,884
It can be sapphic and, you
know, lesbian, lesbionic.
:
00:51:40,245 --> 00:51:45,235
don't know if it's for everybody,
but it could be for anybody, whether
:
00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:48,715
you like horror movies or not,
if you're just interested in…
:
00:51:49,315 --> 00:51:50,165
And it's silly.
:
00:51:50,205 --> 00:51:51,055
It's funny.
:
00:51:51,075 --> 00:51:56,505
There are so many moments where I just
cackled e- especially around, like, the,
:
00:51:56,615 --> 00:51:59,855
it's these two people who are both like,
"Yeah, sex is kinda awkward for me."
:
00:51:59,865 --> 00:52:05,935
It really felt like what we were started
out talking about with how, w- maybe an
:
00:52:05,935 --> 00:52:09,895
extreme example of how this aversion to
cringe could impact someone being able
:
00:52:09,895 --> 00:52:14,245
to actually love somebody and experience
intimacy with somebody because you have to
:
00:52:14,255 --> 00:52:17,771
be willing to be cringey to have good sex
:
00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:19,252
. Beck: Yeah, agreed
:
00:52:20,882 --> 00:52:23,862
Dash (2): I can't imagine what their
sex is like, these, these young kids.
:
00:52:24,389 --> 00:52:24,889
Beck: Yeah.
:
00:52:25,189 --> 00:52:25,309
I
:
00:52:26,459 --> 00:52:26,799
from me.
:
00:52:26,799 --> 00:52:28,879
When I do sex ed, they won't take
:
00:52:29,602 --> 00:52:32,052
I'm like, "Put them in the bathrooms
in your dorm," you know what I mean?
:
00:52:32,052 --> 00:52:33,432
Like, spread them around.
:
00:52:33,442 --> 00:52:35,612
There's, there, you don't have
to personally need to use them
:
00:52:35,612 --> 00:52:37,252
to need to use condoms, right?
:
00:52:37,522 --> 00:52:37,962
Like, you can
:
00:52:38,842 --> 00:52:40,422
where it would be helpful for other people
:
00:52:41,022 --> 00:52:45,862
Dash (2): And that's, s- and so there's
three options, two of which are scary.
:
00:52:46,312 --> 00:52:47,502
So either…
:
00:52:47,532 --> 00:52:48,382
'Cause that's universal.
:
00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:51,779
They're not taking the free
condoms from anywhere, or the
:
00:52:51,779 --> 00:52:52,809
lube or anything like that.
:
00:52:53,129 --> 00:52:58,872
Or the only thing that goes anywhere is
the Plan B in the vending machines so
:
00:52:58,902 --> 00:53:02,672
I'm like, "Okay, so you're all, y'all are
fucking and you're not using the condoms."
:
00:53:03,272 --> 00:53:03,682
Beck: Right
:
00:53:03,948 --> 00:53:07,828
Dash (2): or the, the other option is that
they're just buying all their own condoms
:
00:53:08,582 --> 00:53:09,054
Beck: I don't believe
:
00:53:10,245 --> 00:53:14,045
cause they're expensive when you buy them,
and these kids don't have a lot of money
:
00:53:14,370 --> 00:53:18,363
Dash (2): and considering their
demographic, the, sale, condom
:
00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:22,743
sales would tell us whether they
were buying their own or not
:
00:53:23,343 --> 00:53:26,293
Beck: Whenever I do sex ed, I do--
I have a slide that specifically
:
00:53:26,293 --> 00:53:29,533
tells them all the places they can
go around campus and buy condoms.
:
00:53:29,883 --> 00:53:33,443
Like, you can go to the wellness center
and get a bag of 50 of them for 10 bucks.
:
00:53:33,713 --> 00:53:36,913
You can get them at the health center,
and I even show them on Amazon where you
:
00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:38,693
can, you know, order them discreetly.
:
00:53:39,017 --> 00:53:41,707
I also tell them about ohiv.org.
:
00:53:42,307 --> 00:53:46,347
So, if you're an Ohio resident, you
are entitled to a shipment of free
:
00:53:46,347 --> 00:53:49,327
condoms every 30 days through ohiv.org.
:
00:53:49,327 --> 00:53:50,417
It's completely free.
:
00:53:50,647 --> 00:53:54,097
It comes in a little yellow envelope
completely anonymously, right?
:
00:53:54,097 --> 00:53:55,577
You wouldn't know what was inside of it.
:
00:53:55,827 --> 00:53:57,297
And you can do it every 30 days.
:
00:53:57,297 --> 00:53:58,367
And there's three options.
:
00:53:58,367 --> 00:54:01,327
You can get the lesbian pack, which
comes with dental dams and condoms.
:
00:54:01,617 --> 00:54:04,262
You can get the magnum pack, which
comes with the magnums, and then
:
00:54:04,262 --> 00:54:05,487
you can get the regular pack.
:
00:54:05,717 --> 00:54:07,487
They all come with lube
and that kind of stuff.
:
00:54:07,727 --> 00:54:12,737
You can also get free HIV testing through
that website and free STD otherwise
:
00:54:12,767 --> 00:54:14,857
counseling through that website as well.
:
00:54:14,887 --> 00:54:16,127
Ohiv.org.
:
00:54:16,157 --> 00:54:17,367
They're fantastic
:
00:54:17,967 --> 00:54:22,747
Dash (2): Put that in the show notes
in case anybody has a short memory.
:
00:54:23,623 --> 00:54:25,383
Beck: Oh, they've added latex-free too
:
00:54:25,983 --> 00:54:26,693
Dash (2): Oh, good.
:
00:54:26,723 --> 00:54:31,199
That was-- That's been the number
one bug in the ear of these folks, I
:
00:54:31,219 --> 00:54:36,329
think, for the past decade, is please
give latex-free co- uh, options.
:
00:54:36,769 --> 00:54:37,259
But the…
:
00:54:37,269 --> 00:54:41,559
it's, it was so cost-prohibitive for such
a small percentage, and I don't th- I
:
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:45,449
think having, like, sort of worked with
people in the nonprofit space before,
:
00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:50,309
like, they have to be able to demonstrate
an ROI to get funds for things, and that
:
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:52,089
was a place where they, you just couldn't.
:
00:54:52,689 --> 00:54:56,539
The number of people who are actually
allergic to latex is so small that
:
00:54:56,539 --> 00:54:58,019
you couldn't demonstrate a need
:
00:54:58,619 --> 00:54:59,789
Beck: I think that's a newly added…
:
00:54:59,799 --> 00:55:00,839
'Cause I do it all the time.
:
00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,409
That's how I get my free condoms
to give out to students, right?
:
00:55:03,669 --> 00:55:05,699
'Cause, you know, as a married lesbian for
:
00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:08,089
don't really use a lot of condoms.
:
00:55:08,689 --> 00:55:10,629
Dash (2): you're probably
on a list somewhere.
:
00:55:11,229 --> 00:55:11,869
Beck: Probably.
:
00:55:12,395 --> 00:55:15,345
Dash (2): Like, "Oh my God, this
bitch needs her condoms again."
:
00:55:16,262 --> 00:55:19,288
Beck: I also got free Narcan
in the mail the other day.
:
00:55:19,288 --> 00:55:21,718
I do all kinds of free offers
when it comes to education and
:
00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:22,058
stuff.
:
00:55:22,318 --> 00:55:22,778
And I got
:
00:55:22,890 --> 00:55:24,360
two doses of Narcan in the mail.
:
00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:26,630
I've been carrying one in
my backpack just in case
:
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:27,540
Dash (2): Yeah.
:
00:55:28,060 --> 00:55:30,140
That's a good idea,
'cause it is expensive.
:
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:36,190
I, w- weirdly, I was prescribed
it after I had my surgery because
:
00:55:36,340 --> 00:55:39,520
they used a, what you call it?
:
00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:44,160
For anesthesia, I told them that I
likely had a sensitivity to Demerol,
:
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,660
I think, because some people in my
family do, and I was like, "You know,
:
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:50,860
it's pretty easy to not use it."
:
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:51,500
There's other…
:
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:54,250
They, there's all these different
cocktails that these folks can cook
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up, and they just chose not to.
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These are also the same people that, like,
kept, like, misgendering me in the notes.
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Like, they would put, like,
female in parenthesis every time.
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So I…
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They just had an issue with me.
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But they used Demerol, and they couldn't
wake me up from anesthesia, and my
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my lungs, I wasn't able to breathe on
my own the way you're supposed to be
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when you're coming out of anesthesia.
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So they Narcanned me twice to
get the shit out of my system.
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And so after that, it was on my
chart, and I think maybe it…
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You have to do this thing, it's called
a pain contract or something, to be
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prescribed pain medication, and maybe it
trig- triggered something in that that I
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was, like a, a user or something, so they
prescribed Narcan to me when I came out of
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the hospital, and it was expensive as shit
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Beck: I have a friend whose son
works in Narcan distribution, and
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all he does is go out and give
demonstrations in stock places and do
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all that kind of stuff which I think
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Dash (2): Cool Yeah.
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I mean, I'm sure that there are days
when the, anybody who does that kind of
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work is just, kinda like with us, right?
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Like, anytime you do a job that
is, i- its goal is to help, you
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just don't get a return on that.
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You know?
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You m- also, m- like, majority of
the time you don't get to actually
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see any evidence that you did help.
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Which is why I say to everybody who has
interacted or, or benefited from a, a
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community resource or a teacher or any,
any person who's been an advocate for you
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and helped you in any way, in whatever way
you can, tell them that you appreciate it.
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Tell them that you understood what it
cost them to do this day in and day
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out if it happens to be their job.
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Y- you know, and not all of us want
you to come up and give us a hug and
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say like, "Oh God, you saved my life."
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Like, that's not what I'm talking about.
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Like, give them a fucking
Starbucks gift card or…
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I've had, uh, it was, there's a, a
subculture at, uh, the m- the campus
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I used to work at of kids making their
own little thank you cards which I just
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think is adorable, and I got several
of those, and that, that was awesome.
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you can make an impact
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Beck: on my
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Notes everywhere with
words of affir- affirmation
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Dash (2): I remember that.
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Beck: ass."
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Yeah, it's still a thing
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Dash (2): That's cute.
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Well, all right.
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On that words of affirmation,
do we have any for Monday?
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What are some…
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What would Cousin Mindy say?
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Beck: Uh, what would Cousin Mindy say?
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I don't know.
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Y'all don't forget your yoga mats
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Dash (2): I'm gonna write…
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For next time, I'm gonna, let's write
some, uh, a Cousin Mindy affirmation
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I did get the wheel of what
have you to load eventually, and
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then I had to close it again.
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Oh, it opened.
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Wow.
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I also took some things off of it
that would be, like, maybe a little
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bit more work since we're just
struggling to get through the semester.
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S- so I will give it a spin
and we'll see what it gives us.
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It's also kind of still under
construction, but it'll…
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00:58:45,506 --> 00:58:47,776
There's stuff th- oh,
okay, we got show and tell.
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So that's fun.
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We can do that pretty easily,
just walk into any room and
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pick up something interesting
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Beck: Yeah.
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All my stuff is in boxes.
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Maybe I'll…
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books.
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Maybe I'll do a book
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Dash (2): A book would be cool, yeah.
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Doesn't even have to be
something real in your apartment.
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It could be a digital thing
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Beck: Oh, true that
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Dash (2): It'd be lots of things, just
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Beck: Yes
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Dash (2): You, something you have that
you think might be interesting or unique.
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We can't all be inflatable vaginas.
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Oh, there's another title
contender for title.
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Oh,
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Well, let's, uh, hit it.
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I gotta edit this and grade some papers.
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Beck: Yeah, I got a lot of
quizzes to grade today, so
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Dash (2): Well, well
everybody, hope you enjoyed it.
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Thanks for hanging out another week.
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Check out the Patreon.
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It'll be in the show notes.
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Uh, see if whatever state you're
in has its, uh, its version of OHIV
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and, uh, spread the word about it.
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That's our mission for the week.
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Beck: Yep.
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babies
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Dash (2): Nope
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Beck: motto
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No babies on my watch
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Dash (2): Not in this economy
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Beck: Nope
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Dash (2): All right.
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Well, be good and say
hi to your mom and them
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Beck: Bye