Episode 58

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Published on:

6th Jul 2026

The First Rickroll at Stonewall

Beck and Dash discuss how World Cup banter on TikTok sparked the meme phrase “America’s favorite sport is competition,” leading into a broader conversation about memes, early internet culture (4chan, Rickrolling, Rotten.com, eBaum’s World), and how Web 2.0 interactivity evolved into today’s app-driven, algorithmic internet, with Web 3.0 framed as decentralization via blockchain. They highlight Facebook groups as local “public history” repositories (Portsmouth, Ohio) versus gossip hubs (Nosy Asses of Toledo), share favorite TikTok creators, run a comedic sponsor spot on cut-off jean shorts, feature an “Appalachian noun” on Heiner’s bread, and assign a community photo challenge: “dramatic bitches” in nature.

00:00 Podcast Welcome

00:19 Mailbox Chaos

01:58 Fourth of July Gripes

02:49 Pharmacy Closed Panic

04:41 Shortages and Desalination

06:03 World Cup TikTok Jokes

08:42 Taco Bell Hacks

10:06 Where Memes Come From

15:19 Early Internet Shock Sites

16:55 Amazon and Web Evolution

18:54 Web 2.0 vs Web 3.0

22:36 Portsmouth History Facebook

28:05 Nosy Asses of Toledo

30:38 TikTok ABBA Australians

32:32 Data Privacy and Marketplace

35:16 Sinister Pawn Lima Tour

36:40 Kewpie Burgers And Mansions

38:14 Prison Romance And Furbies

39:09 Pikeville Kentucky Detour

41:09 Captain Ds And Downtown Finds

41:53 Nail Salon Rant

43:20 Sponsor Cutoff Jean Shorts

45:18 Comfort Clothes Talk

46:34 Fourth Of July And Pets

48:07 Smoke Detectors And Cooking

49:25 Noun Heiners Bread

53:02 Cousins Jobs And Driving Tests

56:17 Photo Assignment Dramatic Bitches

58:28 Wrap Up And Goodbye

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Transcript
Beck:

Welcome to Queer Next, the podcast that puts the yehaw in y'all means all.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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Dash: and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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did you ever check your mail?

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Beck: I still have not

checked my mail, no.

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It has been so hot.

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I'm so bad at it, I'm telling you.

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Stuff sits there for like … They

get so mad at us at the post office.

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I've got two cases of Red Bull sitting

at the post office waiting on me

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Dash: Oh my God.

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Have you ever gotten like a

note, a passive aggressive note?

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Or

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Beck: Yes.

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Dash: aggressive aggressive.

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Beck: Yeah, 'cause we take up not

only our mail, because our mailbox

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is only like that big, right?

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It's only like so tall because

it's in a bay of, it's like a,

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a, a, a mailbox farm, you know?

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And so we always have a package in

one of the package, uh, containers, so

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we take it up forever, and I, I think

that's why they get mad at us, 'cause

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there's only so many package containers.

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So, oh well, I don't care

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Dash: Like leaving your, laundry

in the dryer a whole weekend in the

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Beck: They should have made one closer.

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They shouldn't have made just one bay.

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They should have made two.

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And the, the issue with my Red Bull

is that I order them from Amazon

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and I specifically do it next day

delivery on like a Tuesday so that

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they won't send it the postal service.

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But for whatever reason, the last two

shipments, they have decided to send it

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postal service anyway, and because we're

in this big complex, the post office

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won't deliver, deliver it to my door.

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So they bring it to the complex and it

goes straight back to the post office and

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it sits there till I go and pick it up,

which is a pain because Shanna works all

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day every day, and when am I supposed to

get to the freaking post office, you know?

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It's ridiculous.

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That's my minor gripe for the day.

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But if that's all that's wrong

in my life, I'm, I'm here for it

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Dash: our post office here is

open I think it's 8:00 to 1:00 PM

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Beck: Wow.

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That's even worse than

the Waterville post office

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Dash: This place, man.

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I told you yesterday…

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So okay, it's 4th of July.

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Happy 4th of America Day,

everybody, or whatever.

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Beck: Happy birthday, America

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Dash: happy 250th

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Beck: look a day over 219

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Dash: Doesn't look a day over 1950.

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We wish we could be happier

for you, but we're just not.

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We'll try again

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: America.

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Beck: I could enjoy the fireworks

because I have a, an, anxious chihuahua,

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so we can't even enjoy the fireworks

without, you know, really medicating her.

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So just, I just, last- they

started with the fireworks last

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night, and it was uncalled for.

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So I, I just can't wait for

the fireworks to be done.

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I used to love them, but with a noisy

chiro- chihuahua, it's just impossible

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Dash: Yeah.

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they started here yesterday.

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They're having their little street party.

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Remember the one they had last

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: every year.

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Which is why yesterday when I tried to go

get my medicine, the pharmacy was closed.

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And, they don't have weekend hours.

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They don't have any…

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Like, if you m- if you didn't get

your medication, you are fucked.

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And it's a weekend, and I'm like,

I don't, I don't even trust that

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you're gonna be open on Monday

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Beck: Right?

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Dash: considering how

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are And I was completely

out of my metformin.

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So I was like, "This is gonna

be an uncomfortable weekend."

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Beck: Next time call me, I keep jugs of it

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Dash: Uh, I called my old pharmacy up

in, in the next town over, and they were

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like, "No, we've never filled that for

you, so we can't just hand you pills."

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And I was like, "Yeah, that makes sense."

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And they were like, "Can

you call your doctor?"

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And I was like, "Well, the

clinic's closed too, so if you

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need to go to the doctor…"

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I called the hospital.

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The ER was open, and they were

like, "Who's your doctor?"

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And I, I told her, and she goes, "Let

me see if she'll pick up the phone."

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So she called my poor doctor off of

the clock and asked her to put in a

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prescription for me at a different

pharmacy that was actually open.

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so that took the whole…

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That took the entire day yesterday to get

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: fucking medication so that I can

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without feeling like garbage

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Beck: Yeah, and that's the least sexy

medicine there is to even need something

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like that, just freaking metformin.

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I've got three, you know the giant

tall, tall pill bottles that come

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with like 180 in it or whatever?

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I've got three of those of

metformin in my medicine box.

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So I just, they, I, they

just keep refilling it and

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that's how much extra I have.

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Dash: Wow

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Beck: I did get some

Adderall this week though, so

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Dash: Ooh.

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Beck: it's the non-extended release one.

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I did get it, so I haven't got the

extended release yet though, so

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Dash: Yeah, I don't have mine either.

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Ma- they said maybe

they'll have it next week.

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash: you guys?

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I mean, of all the shortages to

go around out there right now, I

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guess Adderall's not the worst.

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They're fucking short on…

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They've got rolling power outages

and stuff in northern Kentucky, and

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water shortages from data centers.

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Like, the world is ending, you guys

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Beck: I read an article yesterday

that they have figured out how to

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desalinate, uh, water, uh, cheaper than

it is to bottle it, the fresh water.

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So there might be some

changes coming to that.

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It, it m- the, the use of our water

might not be an issue for much longer.

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We can hope

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Dash: Yeah.

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I mean, we solved the, we've

solved that issue several times

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now and just never actually put it

to use where it will help people.

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The same thing with energy.

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Beck: always too expensive.

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Dash: Yeah, it was expensive.

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What was the name of that power source?

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Beck: Rue's just watching you

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Dash: high ru- high yield beta fusion

Allegedly they had created that and

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everybody kept saying like, "Oh, it's

gonna change energy," or whatever, and

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then like nothing happened for 10 years.

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And I was like, "I don't even care if you

made it because I'm not in a position to

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be excited for breakthroughs right now.

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Like, I need you to make things

better or shut up about it."

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: Like, you could go to

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and I'd be like, "Great,

bring back something useful.

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Be excited later when

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: Hi, Ziggy

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Beck: Yeah

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I feel that in my soul.

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I am not really proud to

be an American these days

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Dash: It's tough Well, and this I

guess segues us into, we landed on the

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wheel of what have you on social media.

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We don't, that's gonna mean

whatever we feel like it means.

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We'll loosely talk about social media,

the World Cup is I guess still happening.

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I don't know.

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Beck: Yeah, it's like three

weeks long or something

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Dash: Yeah.

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A- a- and that's cool, and I s-

there's all kinds of different

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versions of it to engage with online

on social media, like seeing, you

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know, like we talked about Europeans

experiencing America for the first time

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or, or South Americans experiencing

North America for the first time.

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Cool things like that.

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But one thing that happened was a lot of

Americans realized that we have a men's

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soccer team ' and on TikTok especially,

Europeans, Brits and Aussies, where

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they were trying to shit talk, you know?

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They were like, "Oh, America thinks

they're gonna win this just because

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they have home field advantage."

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And we were all like,

"We're in the World Cup?"

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Who was gonna tell us?

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Like, what, who, what's our mascot?

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Like, we the bits about, like, us not

even realizing we were playing in this.

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Like, I saw people saying like, "Yeah, I

just thought we were having company over."

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Like d- what do, how, what

do, how does scoring work?

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Like um, and then the,

US like beat a couple…

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Like, they, they beat Australia.

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Like, they, they, they won a couple

of key games in people's comments,

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like of those, of like an Australian,

there was one guy in particular

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who was a shit-stirrer in this.

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They were like, "Yeah, we got two

kick downs on the, the home piece."

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Really, I don't know.

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He started it.

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He was like, "America thinks

they're gonna win," or whatever,

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and it's like we did win.

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We just don't really…

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We care less about that than you

do, but we're g- and so somebody

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started talking about that.

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They were like, "Amer- y'all didn't

care about this like a week ago,

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and now you're all in my mentions

talking about the World Cup."

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And, and somebody said, and they put

it in quotation marks, which I think

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means that they're quoting somebody

else, but they didn't attribute it.

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I'll see if I can figure out who said it.

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it said, "America's favorite

sport is competition."

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Beck: a great one

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Dash: isn't it g- it's so true.

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Like, we don't care what it is.

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It can be as dumb as hell, but we're gonna

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Beck: I saw a meme once, about the

pandemic that if we made it like state

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versus state with a, with a reward like

everybody gets free Taco Bell at the

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end if you have the lowest transmission

rate or something, people would've been

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shaming the non-mask wearers left and

right if Taco Bell was on the line.

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Dash: right

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Beck: You know?

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Like, that they should've

taken up that model.

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I know I would've shamed

somebody for a taco

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Did you see that Taco Bell is bringing

back the chili cheese burrito nationwide?

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Dash: Nope

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Beck: They are.

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We- they've had them here

in my area for a long time.

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I got them until I was sick of them, and

now, but now, now they're on the app.

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You can get them anywhere

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Dash: Ah.

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Beck: you ever had a chili

cheese burrito from Taco Bell?

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Dash: I haven't.

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There, there is a Taco Bell over w- in

the, the town I go to my boxing class in.

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said it's called a chili cheese burrito?

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Beck: Yeah.

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I get it with a side of sour

cream and s- and some nachos

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Dash: I was about to say, like, it's

gonna need to be cut with something.

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I'm sure they

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Beck: Yeah, you can add rice,

you can add, uh, tomatoes,

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you can add whatever you want.

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But I just eat it as…

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I get a side of chips.

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So at Taco Bell, here's a, a cheat in

life that, that you can attribute to me.

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If you buy, uh, chips and cheese

at Taco Bell, it's like 2.99,

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but if you buy just chips, no cheese,

it's 75 cents And then you can get

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a side of cheese for like 50 cents.

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So you, if you get them both as

sides, you can get it a lot cheaper.

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But I just, 'cause I don't like the

cheese at, at Taco Bell, so I just get

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the chips and eat it with sour cream.

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Five stars

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Dash: I think there, there's all

kinds of cases of that, like the combo

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actually costs you more money instead of

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Beck: Yehaw.

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Dash: Ziggy, hush, honey.

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You got enough airtime last week.

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So I tried to look it up, and, uh,

the, the quote, "America's favorite

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sport is competition," a meme.

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It's a social media…

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It originated somewhere on

TikTok likely, But nobody knew,

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nobody knows who said it first.

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that's one of the…

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It's like that's one of the most

interesting but also kind of horrifying

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things about social media is it

transmits ideas, information, whatever,

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so quickly that you, you don't, we

don't have time to trace its source.

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has sped up the creation and dissemination

of, of culture to a point that It's

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not easy to k- to be aware of what

we're s- talking about came from.

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Beck: Yeah, memes are their

own language at this point.

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Like, there's, there's so much

context that you have to have and,

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you know, like, to understand.

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Like, you would've had to have

been on the internet for, like,

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100 years at this point to really

understand meme speak, in my opinion.

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There's, there's a lot

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Dash: Especially like the image macros,

like the, the version of meme that most

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people are familiar with, just like

that image and some sort of text on it.

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: like with a lot of words that become

part of culture's way of understanding

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itself, meme existed before the internet.

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Sort of like, you know, whenever we

take something and use it as a metaphor

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like we did with patriarchy or rape or

power, its new metaphorical definition

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becomes the real definition to us,

and we kind of like do forget the old.

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And, and that's not…

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I'm not trying to be get off your lawn

about it, 'cause it really doesn't matter.

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But meme is short for mimeme.

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They've been around since…

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Well, first of all, mimeme is just

like how information is transmitted.

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I w- I bet Richard Dawkins is actually

insufferable about this right now because

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he coined the term, the idea that there's

a cultural of a gene that transmits,

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heritable knowledge in a cultural way.

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The Selfish Gene, I think,

is where he talks about it.

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But even before the internet, people

were doing things like with graffiti.

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Graffiti's a good example of places we've

seen, like memes outside of the internet.

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Did you ever hear about

that one Kilroy Was Here?

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Beck: Yeah, from the US Army

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Dash: yeah, was one.

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Frodo Lives is another one.

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People would put that in the, the subway.

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Beck: when I worked at bingo, there was a

couple of old men that would bring folded

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up pieces of paper with memes printed

on them, like jokes or whatever, and

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they would physically hand them around

and people would look at them and laugh.

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Like, that was right before

the internet became…

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Yeah, I remember several of those.

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They were usually dirty in nature

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Dash: wonder where they got them.

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Where did you go for your memes?

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I w- I was on Cheeseburger

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Beck: Oh Lord probably just Facebook.

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I follow a lot of meme

dumping pages that offer…

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Like, there's this one she offers 42

memes every day and they're always

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new and always, you know, yeah.

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So that's, that's where I get

most of mimemes is through those,

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those meme aggregation pages

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I use Facebook a lot.

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I'm old

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Dash: It's just so ingrained

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: the first internet meme,

viral internet meme, 4chan invented

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them in, in the West anyway.

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Western internet memes,

they, they came from 4chan.

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A lot of things did actually.

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People don't really know how much of our

culture actually just came from 4chan.

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there's reasons for that too it

was a, it was a place where the

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interactive web, like very s- it, it

was like at the beginning of Web 2.0,

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and it was an image board, so people

could get on there and interact in

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a way that they hadn't been able to.

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It was sort of like right

before social media.

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but the first viral internet meme to break

containment on 4chan was Rickrolling did

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anybody ever get you with Rickrolling?

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Beck: No, but I have rickrolled

a few times in my day.

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Um, Like on, on Canvas, like

in a class, like one semester I

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posted, uh, final exam answers.

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And it was just a link, and if you clicked

it on it, it took you to a, a rickroll.

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It took you to the, you know, the thing.

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I- that was one of my favorite ones.

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Somebody was like, "You got me."

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And I was like, "Why would

I post final answers?

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Duh, like, use your brain, idiots."

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Dash: uh, it's worth checking.

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You found him on Canvas before, so

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Beck: True that.

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True that

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Dash: I out about it because

somebody asked me, Vanessa

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actually asked me, she texted me,

"Have you heard of Rickrolling?"

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And I was like, "No."

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This was 2007, I think.

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I th- maybe a lot of people heard about it

before it happened to them, I don't know.

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But there were all kinds of those, like

the first internet viral internet memes

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were kind of, bait and clicks, you know?

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Like [redacted]

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Uh, yeah, Scares Goatse.

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A lot of them are really

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Beck: Lord.

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Dash: [redacted] nobody Google that.

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I'm gonna have to bleep that

out ' and, and much, much worse.

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but that's kind of like

the internet would do that.

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That's the natural of what the

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Beck: Do you remember

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Do you remember rotten.com?

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Dash: Yeah.

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Beck: that was one of my first

experiences online was watching

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a snuff film on rotten.com.

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'Cause they didn't try to

hide that shit or anything.

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You just clicked and there it was.

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It was, I saw Tupac's autopsy pictures

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Dash: Yeah I'd forgotten about Rotten.

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Beck: and eBaum's World

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Dash: Yeah, Ebaum's

World was, was good too.

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Like, that had some funny stuff on it too.

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I w- I w- like I said, I

was on Cheeseburger a lot.

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That is Where I saw the picture you took

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Beck: yeah?

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Dash: long

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Beck: That's so cool.

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Dash: um

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Beck: The Burger King,

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try our new anus burger

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I was just, uh, I was lucky that

I had my good camera with me

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too, 'cause that was before cell

phones could take good pictures.

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And I just, I was on my way to

somewhere in Huntington, and

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it was the one on the west end.

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And I just pulled in their parking lot

and snapped a picture and drove off.

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It was funny I did call

them to tell them though.

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I'm a spoilsport, I guess.

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I d- you know what I mean?

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'Cause I feel like if it was my Burger

King, I would wanna know that was

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out there and it was inappropriate.

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Um, I don't know if they

believed me or not, but

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Dash: of social media.

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Like, people were commenting on it.

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You weren't really making friends.

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So the image boards, uh, they

weren't really designed to f-

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to, to make relationships that

lasted beyond the interaction.

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So that was definitely Web 2.0

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because people were in, like,

comment sections and stuff.

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But, you know, 4chan's anonymous,

and Cheeseburger, like, you had a

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na- you could have a screen name,

but nobody remembered anybody else

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Beck: You know one interesting

thing I think for me anyway,

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is that when the Web 2.0

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was really becoming a, a thing, that's

when I was working at Amazon.com

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and I got to see Amazon really morph from

a bookstore into what it has become today.

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That was before th- they

had Super Saver Shipping.

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That was before they had Prime.

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Like they got Prime in

like:

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And I've had Prime since it started.

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I've been a Amazon junkie for a long

time now because I saw how it worked and

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they made their employees like owners.

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They vested, they gave you vested

stock and things like that.

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They made you feel like you

were part of the company.

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But it was really interesting to see the

internet alive and well and how it was

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being transformed and the way people were

using it because I had free un- l- if you

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weren't on a call or working on an email,

you had unfettered access to the internet.

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You could basically do whatever you

wanted as long as the calls were

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not in queue and that, and there

were no emails waiting in queue.

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And I did not have high-speed internet

at home, so it was, you know, I did a

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lot of, of searching on Amazon's dime

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Do you know Amazon has something

called Gold Star customers?

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Like, they pick particular customers and

put a literal gold star on their account.

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Like, a customer service puts in your

email address and your account pops up.

393

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Right beside your name, there's a gold

star, and that means basically customer

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service is supposed to treat you like

royalty, give you whatever you want,

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whatever you need fix the problem

no matter how big it is, just make

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sure they continue to be a customer.

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And I think we have become a gold star

customer because we've been shopping

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under the same account for so long, and we

use Amazon like it's a pantry, you know?

399

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Dash: There's a reason it has

taken hold the way it has.

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Beck: been in a literal store, like

a Target or a Walmart or a Kroger.

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I've been in Kroger once in the

last, like, five years, and that's

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the only store I've been in.

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I just don't go shopping anymore.

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Amazon has it

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Dash: They don't have them here.

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You know?

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If it, if it wasn't for online

shopping, I wouldn't, I literally

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wouldn't get the things I needed

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Beck: Hi, Peta But yeah, what, what

version of web point what, what

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point O would you say we're at now?

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Dash: Well We're still in Web 2.0.

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Like, the Internet's not progressing.

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in fact, it's kind of we're

using less and less of it.

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We don't use the Internet anymore.

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Most people use an application

that uses the Internet for them.

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We've learned less about how coding works.

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So w- we're s- we sort of, um passed on

our opportunity to become part of it.

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B- b- by we, I mean the average person.

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And it, and it wasn't that

the choice wasn't obvious.

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W- we w- it wasn't being made clear

to us that we were no to that.

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It was companies wanted to,

to own the access so that

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they could charge us for it.

423

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So, you know, think about how you

interact with the Internet the most

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often for me it's probably through my TV

425

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my phone and everything has an algorithm.

426

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Of course, there always, always

already were algorithms, What

427

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even, what would be Web 3.0?

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Beck: Well, what makes Web 2.0

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Web 2.0?

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Dash: Interactivity.

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the static web is what it

was called in the old days.

432

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W- so, like, the early days of the

internet were just websites, and

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people could visit and read them.

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And the, the capability for building

in opportunities for people who

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visited the website to engage with each

other just wasn't really there yet.

436

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So Web 2.0

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was the advent of something like a

blog or a comment section or social

438

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media, MySpace, The, like, increased

access to chat rooms, stuff like that.

439

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Like, it, sort of like the editable

web, and we used that to interact more.

440

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And also more people could make their

own websites, so something like…

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Do you remember GeoCities?

442

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Y- like, there were ways for people who

weren't formally trained in, computers

443

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and whatnot, to still be a part of it.

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also became a piece of the,

the kind of proxy access.

445

:

were one step removed if you

used something like GeoCities

446

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to create your website

447

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Beck: Right

448

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Dash: Uh, so the, uh, Google says

"A defining element of Web 3.0

449

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would be decentralization, moving

away from reliance on massive tech

450

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monopolies like Google, Amazon, and

Meta toward decentralized applications

451

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and peer-to-peer networks."

452

:

Yeah, using blockchain technology.

453

:

So basically it would require us

to completely reverse course begin

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to learn how shit works again.

455

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I don't know how likely we are to do that

And I just bored myself talking about…

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And, and I, it shouldn't be like that.

457

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We should be, we should be excited

to, to have the opportunity to learn

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stuff, but everything is so goddamn

hard right now, I just don't want to

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Beck: Yehaw.

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Dash: Until we become a society that can

feed and house everybody, I don't think…

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I think we're gonna be in Web

462

:

Beck: Oh, we could, but we just don't

463

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Dash: Right.

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been the case since the '70s.

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We've been

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: to feed twice the amount of

people that live on planet Earth since

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:

whenever it was Norman Borlaug, uh,

diversified the wheat down in Mexico.

469

:

I'm not gonna Google that.

470

:

Nobody cares.

471

:

This is- I really need some ADHD medicine.

472

:

Beck: Yeah, this is gonna be a fun podcast

473

:

Dash: It's gonna be a nightmare to edit.

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:

you sent me this page Facebook page,

You Know You're From Portsmouth,

475

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Beck: Yes.

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Dash: And I've just been kinda

scrolling through, and this, post made

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me laugh because it just says, " I

went from first through fifth grade

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at Highland Elementary, 1940 to 1945."

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Beck: That was also the elementary

school that I went to, believe it or not.

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Dash: Wow

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Beck: Yeah, it's, there were, there were

five elementary schools in Portsmouth,

482

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and that's just the one that I also went

to from kindergarten through fifth grade.

483

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So the thing about the, the Portsmouth,

Ohio, uh, the, the name of the site is

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You Know You Are from Portsmouth, Ohio If.

485

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And when this group was originally

created, the, that kind of page,

486

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that, that format was everywhere.

487

:

It was kind of based on the joke, you

know, you're from Ohio if and then

488

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insert, you know, funny line or whatever.

489

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But this t- page kind of evolved

and became, in a, in a county where

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there is no historical society, this

has really become the public history

491

:

dispo for the Scioto County area.

492

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Uh, you can find thousands of pictures

of everything from old car shows to

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old buildings to old families to old

festivals to old businesses to, you

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know, you name it and it's in there.

495

:

Uh, every once in a while

they'll publish a Valley class

496

:

of 1982, the seniors, right?

497

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And so you get to see all the seniors

from that class of:

498

:

they'll do New Boston, uh, 1995, and

en they'll do West Portsmouth:

499

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You know, and they just pick random

years, and you get to see the, the,

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the yearbook pictures of all of those.

501

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And it has 24,000 members which

isn't a whole lot when it comes to,

502

:

you know, big pages or whatever.

503

:

But I think that this page does a really

good job of being a public history portal

504

:

for people that don't have any other

way to experience that kind of thing.

505

:

Portsmouth is really the kind of place

where you grow up there and you leave

506

:

if you want any kind of opportunity.

507

:

So a lot of people feel nostalgic

about the area and, you know, it's from

508

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their childhood, I think it's important

because it allows people to explore those

509

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avenues and to make old friends again.

510

:

You know, there's all, all kinds of times.

511

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The, like this, this lady that,

that posted the one that you ta-

512

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that you said she said, "I lived in

Portsmouth on Park Avenue in the early

513

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'40s, went to Highland Elementary."

514

:

And then there's a person in the in the

comments that said, it, put their address,

515

:

"Went to Highland School, had the same

t- teachers you mentioned at Highland.

516

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Graduated class of 1961."

517

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And then the next one is, "I

also went to Highland, and Ms.

518

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Pray was my first grade teacher,

and I remember blah, blah, blah.

519

:

I graduated in 1957."

520

:

So it, it really is just a good

place for people to come back and

521

:

explore public history in a way

that I think is very 21st century.

522

:

You know?

523

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There was never anything like this before.

524

:

When I was doing my research for my

master's, uh, program I contacted

525

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the library to find out what kind of

resources they had about Black history,

526

:

and they basically had a folder on a

shelf, and that was pretty much it.

527

:

And since I've, since I found this page,

some of the Black residents have shared

528

:

different things, and I have gotten more

Black history from this page than I got

529

:

from the actual library doing research.

530

:

So, you know, there's a lot of good ways

for this to be used, and people just

531

:

kind of, you know, offhandedly think

it's n- garbage or nonsense or whatever.

532

:

But it's a really important site of public

history, and I'm glad that it, it exists

533

:

Dash: I'm reading a post right now about

the tunnels, there was a tunnel built to

534

:

help the post office move mail more easily

535

:

Beck: Mmhmm

536

:

Dash: But somebody who

may be related to you

537

:

Beck: It's possible

538

:

Dash: said, "My dad, Reginald Jenkins,

used to work at post office back

539

:

in the day, and he took me a walk

the tunnel when I was a teenager."

540

:

Beck: If they're a Jenkins, a Montgomery,

a Phipps, or a Crabtree in Scioto County,

541

:

I am absolutely the related to them,

so I'm sure that is one of my cousins

542

:

Dash: Just scrolling through and I see the

pictures, like the historical pictures.

543

:

It was an, an old

Greyhound bus station there

544

:

Beck: Yeah.

545

:

Yeah, it was really dilapidated by

the time I got to be allowed to drive

546

:

around town, but it looked really fancy.

547

:

And it's o- on the, on the murals,

if you ever get a chance to go to

548

:

Portsmouth, Ohio, make sure you

check out the flood wall murals.

549

:

They're the, the crown jewel in the

Portsmouth public history scenario there.

550

:

It's basically 2,000 feet of mural

space, and it covers the history from

551

:

the Native Americans that s- were

settled there, and when the French came

552

:

in and settled the area, all the way

up to the new bridge they just built.

553

:

And it covers all kinds of

different pieces of history and,

554

:

and the, the Greyhound station is,

is one o- in one of the murals.

555

:

And it looks really neat.

556

:

They had, like, an art deco section.

557

:

There was a lot of art deco design

in Portsmouth in the '40s and '50s

558

:

when it was really in its heyday

559

:

Dash: Yeah, I could spend a lot

of time scrolling through here

560

:

Beck: One time somebody commented they

worked at, at Kmart in the late '80s, and

561

:

I was like, "Oh, my aunt worked there."

562

:

And they were like, "Who was your aunt?"

563

:

I said her name, and they

were like, "I loved her."

564

:

And that was just amazing because, you

know, she's been dead for many years, and

565

:

it w- she was, like, one of my favorite

people in the whole world, and it was

566

:

just good to find somebody that remembered

her for being awesome, you know?

567

:

Dash: Yeah.

568

:

that's, I mean, at, at

its heart, The thing that

569

:

should do, the thing that like w- if it

does it well, then, then that's great.

570

:

It's like give us those connections

571

:

Beck: Mm-hmm.

572

:

I sent you a second page which is

called The Nosy Asses of Toledo, Ohio.

573

:

And so on the surface, this has kind

of the same job that the Portsmouth

574

:

page has but it is much more ornery.

575

:

very, very, very differently.

576

:

It's also got a lot of current

events things that are happening.

577

:

Like for example, one day there were

two people arguing about something on

578

:

the page, and the next day came the

mugshots 'cause they took it offline.

579

:

That totally happened

on the Nosy Asses page.

580

:

There, you know the guy f- the drag,

uh, the drag queen that was running

581

:

for Congress, uh, from around here?

582

:

He got into a fight with a girl at a BP.

583

:

He's, he apparently stole her spot,

like, they're the, they were busy.

584

:

Dash: yeah.

585

:

You told

586

:

know it was

587

:

Beck: yeah, So he s- he stole

her spot, and so long story

588

:

short, she ended up macing him,

pepper spraying him in the eyes.

589

:

And they played the whole argument out

on, on this Nosy Asses of Toledo page,

590

:

which is where I even, even heard of

this guy for the first time, you know?

591

:

Because it was such a thing.

592

:

There will be posts like "If you

were the motherfucker driving the

593

:

red van on, on Secor Avenue at 3:45

today, you better learn how to drive."

594

:

You know, stupid stuff like that, which I

agree, Toledo could learn to drive a lot.

595

:

There are some bad drivers in Toledo.

596

:

Like, I've seen people use the

berm just to get around somebody.

597

:

it's wild the things

I have seen in Toledo.

598

:

But I find it, I find it interesting

because it's the, the same basic idea,

599

:

uh, uh, like a re- a repository of, human

interests from a particular area, but it's

600

:

a very, like you said, a very different

interpretation of how that data is used.

601

:

So the Portsmouth page I think is being

used for good, and I think the Nosy Asses

602

:

of Toledo page is being used for evil.

603

:

For hilarious evil sometimes,

but definitely not being used

604

:

for the g- the betterment of man.

605

:

And it's got 70,000 members,

606

:

Dash: Yeah.

607

:

Man, Facebook is, is wild.

608

:

Did you have MySpace first

609

:

Beck: Yes, MySpace.

610

:

That was one of the things

I did on the Amazon time.

611

:

It is and you can even still s- sign

into your account, but everything is gone

612

:

Dash: Space.com.

613

:

Oh my God, this still exists?

614

:

Beck: Yep

615

:

Dash: It looks sketchy as hell.

616

:

Beck: Yehaw

617

:

Dash: bit like Pinterest,

for music and stuff.

618

:

Yeah, I'm, I'm not gonna look at that.

619

:

It makes me sad.

620

:

Well,

621

:

the social media I spend

the most time on is TikTok.

622

:

Which is interesting.

623

:

I, it, the, it's really got its claws in

pretty much all of us There are times when

624

:

I'm like, "This is dreadful and I don't

know why I'm doing this," and so I avoid

625

:

it because I don't want to take the time

to figure out how to control my algorithm.

626

:

So if it's not what I want to see,

I just don't log on for a while.

627

:

But sometimes it has the most

beautiful random shit, That I'm

628

:

like, "What, what gave you this idea?

629

:

Like, how did you even come

up with this brilliance?"

630

:

And so this, this little

thing here is one of them.

631

:

Like, when I saw this, I was

like, " Uh, this is so goddamn funny.

632

:

I don't even know who to, to…

633

:

I need to tell somebody about

this You see the screen?

634

:

Beck: Yes.

635

:

Dash: This is If ABBA

were sung by Australians

636

:

Speaker: In the firelight, Fernando,

637

:

you are humming to yourself and

softly strumming your guitar.

638

:

I could hear the distant drums and sounds

and bugle claws were coming from a farm.

639

:

They were closer.

640

:

Now, Fernando.

641

:

Every hour, every minute

seem to last eternally

642

:

Dash: eternally In the oil lamp Eternally

643

:

Australian people aren't real.

644

:

Nobody talks like that.

645

:

Beck: I've wondered that myself.

646

:

Yeah, I've wondered that myself

647

:

That's hilarious.

648

:

It sounds

649

:

like,

650

:

Muriel's Wedding all over again

651

:

Dash: Wenda

652

:

Beck: Are you not worried that the

Chinese government is, is learning

653

:

all of your algorithm stuff?

654

:

Dash: Yeah.

655

:

I mean, every application on

my phone is mining my data.

656

:

I trust the Chinese with it

more than Mark Zuckerberg

657

:

Beck: True that, homie

658

:

Dash: you know,

659

:

Beck: at

660

:

least the Chinese are human

661

:

Dash: Well, and, and they can't…

662

:

What are they gonna do to me, right?

663

:

They're over there.

664

:

This dude is influencing our government,

and, and maybe they are, too.

665

:

I don't know.

666

:

I don't know enough about it.

667

:

But, like, fucking these techno

bros, Bezos and, and Zuckerberg,

668

:

they're literally running our

country, and it's not going well.

669

:

Like, they're, they're killing people.

670

:

So And that's the reason why I'll be

like, every so often I'll be like,

671

:

"Oh, I'm gonna get off of Facebook,"

because I, I have this feeling of being

672

:

watched, and I don't like it But then

I move somewhere that's the middle of

673

:

nowhere where I have to buy shit off of

Facebook Marketplace because there's no,

674

:

like, you know, pawn stores or whatever

675

:

Beck: Yeah.

676

:

I've gotten ripped off so many times

on Marketplace, it's ridiculous.

677

:

Like, one time we bought a Wii, and they

gave us a bunch of games and everything,

678

:

but the Wii didn't work It was bullshit

679

:

Dash: And it's not like you can, like,

check it in the parking lot wherever you

680

:

Beck: Yeah.

681

:

Exactly.

682

:

Dash: Speaking of Facebook Marketplace,

I found this video of this woman

683

:

talking about Facebook Marketplace.

684

:

Um

685

:

Beck: Are there so many

alternative pooping methods?

686

:

Dash: Uh, there's another one

here of, like, old Appalachia

687

:

baby names from the cemeteries.

688

:

We don't need to

689

:

Beck: Ew

690

:

Dash: one.

691

:

It, it's ki- I mean, we can watch it,

but I might not put it in the episode,

692

:

but I will link it in the description.

693

:

Last thing I s- I saved a bunch of

these because they all make me laugh so

694

:

much, is- Lima the Sinister Pawn babe.

695

:

she just does the Google Maps

readings, but somebody…

696

:

she actually, I think she lives

up there by you right now.

697

:

but people have been sending

her to parts of Appalachia.

698

:

But because we were talking about

Lima and the, what she says about

699

:

it, it just, this made me laugh

700

:

Beck: Those Kewpie burgers

have been everywhere

701

:

Speaker 2: Lima.

702

:

No, but nobody likes Lima.

703

:

She's out in the forsaken part

of Ohio, the Western Park.

704

:

I've been all over this state,

but I've never been over

705

:

there and nor do I want to.

706

:

It's a nice courthouse

though a lot of towns have.

707

:

Nice, well, okay.

708

:

It's kind of nice too, you know.

709

:

Old darky teacher.

710

:

That's okay.

711

:

I, I'm saying I'm seeing a nice,

so pu from the 18 hundreds that's.

712

:

You know, little whimsical to me.

713

:

Ooh.

714

:

But you know, it's touch and go.

715

:

'cause what, what's this so tall for?

716

:

What do y'all think?

717

:

You're a city or something?

718

:

Parking garage.

719

:

Hoe on the fuck's going to lime?

720

:

I, I don't know why y'all

have all these tall buildings.

721

:

I didn't think it was that.

722

:

What fucking skyscrapers.

723

:

What's is Coy Hamburgs?

724

:

Hold on.

725

:

What?

726

:

Wait a minute.

727

:

Like the little coy dolls,

they, it's kind of quirky.

728

:

Kay Burgers frogs.

729

:

Ordinarily I wouldn't love thisThe,

but it feels more authentic.

730

:

Look at these.

731

:

I kind of love these little naked dolls.

732

:

They're cute, whimsical.

733

:

Even the Mennonite bitches love it.

734

:

I bet they do have a good burger.

735

:

You know, art space of Lama bang.

736

:

Who the fuck y'all think y'all are?

737

:

Although, look, you

know, it is a reminder.

738

:

And all these small towns across

America, people are doing things.

739

:

People are making art now.

740

:

I feel bad.

741

:

Old City prom, 5,000 babe.

742

:

What's going on in Lymer?

743

:

Who even knew, look, and

this food looks good.

744

:

Who the fuck's taking me here?

745

:

I can't afford this McDowell

house of Victorian mansion.

746

:

Wait now.

747

:

See how I'd sit in that winter and

just ponder, you know, that's what

748

:

they did back in the day, 18 hundreds.

749

:

There wasn't else shit to do.

750

:

You just sat around.

751

:

Look at that desk.

752

:

Hell gorgeous.

753

:

They don't make nothing like that no more.

754

:

You see?

755

:

You could put all your little

things in the compartments, the bin.

756

:

This is my house.

757

:

This where I belong.

758

:

I, I just feel, you know, I'm in

the wrong time period and it's just,

759

:

oh look in a creepy basement too.

760

:

I love the, the ho on main.

761

:

Another 5,000.

762

:

Fuck no, we're not doing this again.

763

:

Y'all are getting cur munch box.

764

:

We are my lesbian.

765

:

Okay.

766

:

Come to the front.

767

:

'cause with Jim Munch this box, man.

768

:

I bet you would.

769

:

This looks good.

770

:

You know, it's very dairy heavy.

771

:

Ice creams and treats and things.

772

:

What's the uh, hold on.

773

:

'cause I smell something, but

something sinister this way comes.

774

:

Oh, this my prison romance.

775

:

Look.

776

:

Look at the barbed wire bag look.

777

:

Allen Oakwood Correctional Facility.

778

:

I say our mains in nearby.

779

:

And what's the, uh, some

kind of big abandoned port.

780

:

I wanna see this.

781

:

I know y'all are exposing

my man to asbestos and.

782

:

Lord knows what Hell moving.

783

:

What's Happy Day next to Burger King?

784

:

Let's, yes, another 50 Donner situation.

785

:

I'm like, what the Furby?

786

:

And y'all dressed them up

to take them out to lunch.

787

:

This is so my vibe.

788

:

I wanna do this.

789

:

Damn.

790

:

Now I need to get a fucking Furby again.

791

:

And then look, y'all got

another Cutey burger.

792

:

Y'all got two of these in the same town.

793

:

I kind of wanna go to Lima just 50 years.

794

:

Look at the ass, pretty and plump.

795

:

I love her.

796

:

This is speaking to me

797

:

Dash: that's her whole

channel, and I love it.

798

:

She just…

799

:

Beck: That was hilarious.

800

:

Dash: gone to…

801

:

Beck: have Pikeville, Kentucky

802

:

Speaker 3: 12 this whole.

803

:

Same SW Treble and Crying

Pain and the Lord's gonna

804

:

come and as heavenly airplane.

805

:

Speaker 4: I like to sing that on my

front porch, uh, in the evening as

806

:

a reminder that the world is ending.

807

:

Now we've been sent to Eastern

Kentucky, you know, heart of Appalachia.

808

:

I've never been to Pikeville, but I, you

know, I'm related to people from here.

809

:

Y'all know the Howard look now, I like to.

810

:

See that they're, uh,

celebrating their downtown.

811

:

Y'all see how it's fixed up?

812

:

You know how they're caring for it.

813

:

This is kind of nice looking, ain't it?

814

:

You'd expect it to all be crumbling and,

you know, meth addicts and crack heads.

815

:

But they're here.

816

:

You know, you lift up one of these cars,

they're gonna scatter like roaches.

817

:

Enjoy downtown.

818

:

I'll save you.

819

:

See that looks like a

drag queen, don't it?

820

:

Are we getting LGBT in the Appalachian?

821

:

This surprises me.

822

:

What's purses place?

823

:

Hey, I go like a panini.

824

:

I like a squished, uh, warm sandwich.

825

:

Like that.

826

:

Look at that pretzel.

827

:

This looks good.

828

:

What are then those deep fried,

uh, scotch eggs or something?

829

:

I like to try those Big sandy

heritage, who's big Sandy.

830

:

They didn't have to put

her on blast like that.

831

:

The building looks nice.

832

:

Some kind of historic museum.

833

:

I mean, I'm not riveting.

834

:

It was, yes, they was getting kinky

with handcuffs or something back.

835

:

Yeah, that's a co.

836

:

You know, because that's all this

party look, the coal miners prayer, I

837

:

mean, that's all the men have to do.

838

:

You know, they're down in their

minds and they still are to this day.

839

:

You might think it's

still like 18 hundreds.

840

:

I mean, they're coming

out all city and shit.

841

:

Okay.

842

:

Hatfield McCoy, don't get me scoring.

843

:

Y'all know what this was.

844

:

It was two white trash

families that kept fighting.

845

:

They want to talk about it for hundreds

of years, and that's all it was.

846

:

You can drive anywhere down

in them hollers right now.

847

:

And you see people screaming at

each other from their trailer parks.

848

:

That's the same thing.

849

:

Oh, captain D's, let's talk

about some real culture boy.

850

:

And it still looks the same, don't it.

851

:

Same killer scheme.

852

:

This where you know, me and

my family would go when it

853

:

was gonna be a fancy dinner.

854

:

In the nineties, you know?

855

:

Oh God, the hushpuppies, God.

856

:

These were simpler times.

857

:

You know, the biggest scandal was

the president getting a blowjob, you

858

:

know, net was, yet he wasn't sucking

the whole country up like this one.

859

:

What's over here?

860

:

Pay ball.

861

:

These boutique little clothing store.

862

:

Oh fuck.

863

:

There's some Appalachian lingerie

with the, uh, trucks and the red lace.

864

:

Okay.

865

:

That gets the men's going.

866

:

I don't know the direction of the

store if it's like for adult babies.

867

:

Oh, it's lesbians, Dolly and Reba.

868

:

You know, I mean, the lesbians

got their own rules, you know?

869

:

I don't know how they dress.

870

:

Moving on.

871

:

What?

872

:

El Oh, David Nail salon.

873

:

You know, I got something to say.

874

:

I'm up here in some forsaken part of Ohio.

875

:

You know, I had to.

876

:

Scour to find an Asian owned

and operated nail salon.

877

:

You know?

878

:

And you could always tell, 'cause

it's either, it's just like beauty

879

:

nail or sexy nails, you know, or

Diva Nail or just nails, you know,

880

:

they're real, you know, to the point.

881

:

Okay.

882

:

None of these, uh, patties

artistic nail salon?

883

:

No.

884

:

'cause I know that's a Caucasian.

885

:

See, I grew up, you know, a

very traditional way and, and

886

:

they were Asian nail salons and

that's what I'm comfortable with.

887

:

That's the only ones I trust.

888

:

They have perfected that craft.

889

:

I do not want to see it in front of

a white woman and make small talk.

890

:

I just don't any y'all go around

and say, you know, they're talking

891

:

about you in their language.

892

:

You know, I don't give a fuck.

893

:

What's that?

894

:

My business, it's not.

895

:

Look, if they don't wanna call me

a fat bitch in their own language

896

:

to each other, okay, I'll never

know and I'm leaving with my nails.

897

:

Okay.

898

:

That don't matter to me.

899

:

Beck: That's hilarious

900

:

Dash: She's a treasure.

901

:

if you don't already, go follow

her, @sisterponbabe on TikTok.

902

:

I actually, just because of doing,

looking up these videos, I found

903

:

out that she has a Facebook page

too, so I followed her on Facebook.

904

:

But that's one thing, like, I like

about the way social media has gone

905

:

kind of more video and stuff is, like,

getting to hear people talk, getting to

906

:

hear the way people talk about things.

907

:

Like That's come in really

clutch lately well, I don't know.

908

:

We could, uh, clearly do this

forever But maybe we should

909

:

hear from this week's sponsor

910

:

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911

:

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912

:

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913

:

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914

:

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915

:

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916

:

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917

:

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918

:

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919

:

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920

:

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921

:

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922

:

A hole above the knee suggests

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923

:

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924

:

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925

:

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926

:

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927

:

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928

:

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929

:

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930

:

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931

:

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932

:

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933

:

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934

:

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935

:

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936

:

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you're capable of the impossible.

937

:

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938

:

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939

:

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940

:

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941

:

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942

:

now back to Queernecks, where we too are

fraying but covering the important bits.

943

:

I'm wearing my jean

944

:

Beck: I don't even own a pair of

jeans to have jean shorts, so couldn't

945

:

tell you the last time I owned jeans.

946

:

I've either got sweatpants

or teacher pants

947

:

Dash: I wore jeans to work

this, a, a whole past year.

948

:

There's no, like, at the university I

was working at so everybody just wear…

949

:

Some people wear shorts.

950

:

so I'm like,

951

:

Beck: There were some days I would wear

my nice sweatpants under my sweaters

952

:

and nobody knew the difference.

953

:

So that's where I was last semester.

954

:

It was sweatpants to campus kind of days.

955

:

Dash: Yehaw.

956

:

Beck: I also did my entire undergraduate

in, uh, in my pajamas, I'm one of

957

:

those people that wears their pajamas

to Walmart, but I don't go to Walmart

958

:

I just like comfortable clothes

959

:

Jeans feel like a prison

960

:

Dash: yeah I'm a big fan of ball shorts.

961

:

Beck: That's what I'm wearing

962

:

right now is pair of ball shorts

963

:

Dash: when I would get like, when

I would be bloated or something

964

:

from like my period, could gain

15, 20 pounds in a day from that.

965

:

And

966

:

Beck: Yeah

967

:

Dash: you start off the day and

you're okay, and by the time you

968

:

get home you feel like a sausage

roll And then add wearing binders

969

:

or something on top of it, dreadful.

970

:

Like, I just

971

:

Beck: Yeah.

972

:

Dash: by the

973

:

Beck: Oh, I bet

974

:

Dash: some, some days What are

y'all gonna do for the Fourth?

975

:

You gonna do any, you

gonna go see any fireworks?

976

:

Beck: Probably not because of Pita.

977

:

She does not do well with noisy

situations and, and random bangs.

978

:

We have…

979

:

The, the doctor gave us a combination.

980

:

It's a gabapentin and a trazodone that

we give her, and we gave it to her the

981

:

other night, and we went to the drive-in

movie, and she was still barking.

982

:

So I don't know.

983

:

We'll see

984

:

Dash: I saw on Facebook Andy Beshear

Had his dog in it w- it was, uh,

985

:

Yeah, like noise-canceling earmuffs

for dogs, I guess Which I, I don't

986

:

Beck: no

987

:

Dash: I was, my thought was

like, that can't be real.

988

:

If it's a real thing, I mean, that,

that's cool and stuff, but I'm just

989

:

trying to imagine what PETA would do to

you if you tried to put ear muffs on her.

990

:

Beck: I'd come back with some

stubs instead of fingers.

991

:

Dash: You only try

992

:

Beck: 'Cause she bites

993

:

Dash: Yeah

994

:

Beck: she doesn't wanna do something.

995

:

she's a biter.

996

:

She doesn't have a lot of teeth

left, so it doesn't hurt a whole

997

:

lot, but she, she gets in there.

998

:

Dash: If there was some, like, remote

location you could go and park at

999

:

and still see them but, like, not

be close enough to freak her out

:

00:47:55,103 --> 00:47:55,303

Beck: That's a possibility, but, um,

:

00:47:55,303 --> 00:47:56,703

it's also might rain tonight, so there's

a chance for thunderstorms this evening.

:

00:47:57,672 --> 00:47:59,072

Didn't stop 'em last night, though.

:

00:48:00,095 --> 00:48:00,445

were big,

:

00:48:00,445 --> 00:48:00,705

like,

:

00:48:00,789 --> 00:48:01,099

Dash: night

:

00:48:01,265 --> 00:48:03,095

Beck: u- light up the room thunder booms.

:

00:48:03,525 --> 00:48:05,785

Dash: I don't, I mean, I don't know.

:

00:48:05,805 --> 00:48:07,265

I, I sleep through stuff.

:

00:48:07,315 --> 00:48:13,464

Between not being able to hear and my

CPAP machine, if, if the house was on

:

00:48:13,464 --> 00:48:17,584

fire, it w- if, the heat would wake

me up before anything else would.

:

00:48:17,594 --> 00:48:19,724

Like, I would be like, "Ooh, it's sweaty.

:

00:48:19,724 --> 00:48:20,894

Oh, God, the house is on fire.

:

00:48:20,894 --> 00:48:21,444

We should get out."

:

00:48:21,809 --> 00:48:23,789

Beck: It'd be the sprinklers

in my ap- apartment

:

00:48:24,366 --> 00:48:25,426

Dash: Oh, we don't have those.

:

00:48:25,766 --> 00:48:26,856

Beck: We have a sprinkler system.

:

00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:29,330

Dash: I don't even have

smoke detectors actually

:

00:48:29,821 --> 00:48:32,081

Beck: Oh my God, you

need to fix that, friend

:

00:48:33,319 --> 00:48:33,919

Dash: But…

:

00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:36,056

So there might be some

somewhere, I don't know.

:

00:48:36,096 --> 00:48:39,026

There's, there's one right here,

and the battery was taken out

:

00:48:39,026 --> 00:48:40,436

of it, and I didn't know why.

:

00:48:40,446 --> 00:48:43,966

And so when I moved in, I put it

back in there, and then the first

:

00:48:43,966 --> 00:48:45,336

time I took a shower it went off.

:

00:48:45,356 --> 00:48:47,496

And I was like, "That's why

the battery's taken out of it."

:

00:48:47,916 --> 00:48:49,516

The steam from the shower sets it off.

:

00:48:49,526 --> 00:48:50,596

So it's at a stupid spot.

:

00:48:50,996 --> 00:48:54,516

So I did buy some that I can put

places that don't get steamy, 'cause

:

00:48:54,516 --> 00:48:57,266

there's one in the kitchen, but the

kitchen doesn't have any ventilation.

:

00:48:57,306 --> 00:48:58,816

The whole house doesn't

have any ventilation.

:

00:48:59,046 --> 00:49:02,066

And so the slightest

smoke will set them off.

:

00:49:02,076 --> 00:49:04,296

So I've gotta put them other places.

:

00:49:05,246 --> 00:49:06,146

And I've just been lazy,

:

00:49:06,572 --> 00:49:08,352

Beck: Yeah, that's a

problem in my apartment too.

:

00:49:08,676 --> 00:49:10,486

Doesn't even have to be

smoky, just has to be hot

:

00:49:11,083 --> 00:49:15,343

Dash: my mom used to say that my

Aunt Jenny used the smoke detectors

:

00:49:15,343 --> 00:49:17,978

as the, as like the cooking timer.

:

00:49:19,248 --> 00:49:19,488

That's

:

00:49:19,889 --> 00:49:19,899

Beck: Yehaw

:

00:49:21,528 --> 00:49:22,528

Dash: But she also did

:

00:49:24,110 --> 00:49:24,910

Beck: Well, there's that

:

00:49:25,815 --> 00:49:27,475

Dash: Did you bring a noun

of Appalachian interest?

:

00:49:27,957 --> 00:49:30,537

Beck: I did, a very regional one today.

:

00:49:30,898 --> 00:49:31,058

Dash: You

:

00:49:31,137 --> 00:49:32,027

Beck: Let me pull it up here

:

00:49:32,673 --> 00:49:34,533

Something that I love very much.

:

00:49:35,363 --> 00:49:39,393

All right, this week's noun of

Appalachian interest is Heiner's bread.

:

00:49:39,813 --> 00:49:42,903

Now, we're not talking about the kind of

bread that comes in a paper sleeve and

:

00:49:42,903 --> 00:49:44,753

acts like it spent a semester abroad.

:

00:49:45,063 --> 00:49:47,733

We're talking about Heiner's,

which comes in the classic red

:

00:49:47,733 --> 00:49:49,323

bag and is soft as a cloud.

:

00:49:49,563 --> 00:49:52,813

It's made for sandwiches,

just like lunchboxes intended.

:

00:49:53,293 --> 00:49:55,973

Heiner's comes from Huntington, West

Virginia, where Charles and Kate

:

00:49:56,023 --> 00:49:58,433

einer started baking bread in:

:

00:49:58,773 --> 00:50:02,263

That means this bread has been feeding

people for over a century, which is

:

00:50:02,263 --> 00:50:05,393

a long time for anything to survive,

especially something that usually ends

:

00:50:05,393 --> 00:50:06,823

up with peanut butter stuck to it.

:

00:50:07,343 --> 00:50:09,093

And that's part of what

makes Heiner's special.

:

00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:10,193

It's not a fancy bread.

:

00:50:10,209 --> 00:50:11,219

it never needed to be.

:

00:50:11,219 --> 00:50:14,649

Heiner's know what it came here to do,

and it came here to hold fried bologna.

:

00:50:15,009 --> 00:50:16,749

It came here to become grilled cheese.

:

00:50:16,749 --> 00:50:19,909

It came here to wrap itself around

a juicy tomato slice in July

:

00:50:20,139 --> 00:50:22,779

and risk it all, knowing that

bread will hold up to the meal.

:

00:50:23,289 --> 00:50:25,999

There is something very Appalachian

about a thing that does its job

:

00:50:25,999 --> 00:50:27,369

without asking for applause.

:

00:50:27,629 --> 00:50:30,589

Heiner's just sits there in the

bread aisle, soft and dependable,

:

00:50:30,589 --> 00:50:33,459

waiting to go home with somebody

who already knows exactly what kind

:

00:50:33,459 --> 00:50:34,899

of sandwich they are going to make.

:

00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:38,579

Fun fact, I lived down the street

from Heiner's Bakery in the late '90s

:

00:50:38,579 --> 00:50:42,009

and the early:

when they were baking must be what

:

00:50:42,009 --> 00:50:43,299

you smell when you get to heaven.

:

00:50:43,529 --> 00:50:44,879

It was otherworldly.

:

00:50:45,409 --> 00:50:48,569

For people in West Virginia, Southern

Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, and all the

:

00:50:48,569 --> 00:50:52,092

places close enough to feel connected,

Heiner's is one of those grocery

:

00:50:52,092 --> 00:50:53,692

store names that sneaks up on you.

:

00:50:53,942 --> 00:50:57,022

You may not think about it much when you

see it every week, but let somebody move

:

00:50:57,022 --> 00:50:58,702

away and come back home for a visit.

:

00:50:58,962 --> 00:51:01,532

Suddenly, that bread bag

looks like a childhood.

:

00:51:01,722 --> 00:51:04,372

It looks like lunches packed before

school and somebody standing in

:

00:51:04,372 --> 00:51:07,492

the kitchen making food for people

who needed to get out the door.

:

00:51:07,682 --> 00:51:11,522

I know I've purchased endless bags of it

at the Briar Patch on trips to see my mom.

:

00:51:12,062 --> 00:51:15,922

Heiner's was family-owned for many years

before it was sold in, in the:

:

00:51:16,242 --> 00:51:19,502

After that, it passed through bigger

companies because that is what happens,

:

00:51:19,732 --> 00:51:22,362

but folks still call it Heiner's

because that's what it is to them.

:

00:51:22,732 --> 00:51:25,162

And you can change the business

papers, but you cannot change

:

00:51:25,162 --> 00:51:26,632

what something means in a kitchen.

:

00:51:26,882 --> 00:51:29,212

Heiner's will always taste

like my mom's cooking.

:

00:51:29,562 --> 00:51:32,472

So this week, we honor Heiner's

bread, the soft sandwich bread that

:

00:51:32,472 --> 00:51:33,942

never needed to be anything else.

:

00:51:34,202 --> 00:51:37,232

May your loaf be fresh, your

sandwich holds together, and your

:

00:51:37,232 --> 00:51:39,032

tomato behaves itself for once.

:

00:51:39,262 --> 00:51:41,582

And if you see Heiner's in the

store, go ahead and get yourself

:

00:51:41,582 --> 00:51:44,432

a loaf or three, and then squeeze

that little bag there a little.

:

00:51:44,642 --> 00:51:45,722

You were going to anyway.

:

00:51:45,831 --> 00:51:47,121

Someone send me some already.

:

00:51:47,121 --> 00:51:49,191

I've become a northern heathen

and eat wheat bread now.

:

00:51:49,401 --> 00:51:50,951

Heiner's would be so disappointed

:

00:51:56,364 --> 00:51:57,554

Dash: Yeah, they don't…

:

00:51:57,574 --> 00:52:00,424

Well, it's not that they don't

have this where, where I grew up,

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00:52:00,434 --> 00:52:03,064

but this wasn't really a thing.

:

00:52:03,363 --> 00:52:06,333

it was probably there, but

I don't remember, you know

:

00:52:06,759 --> 00:52:10,869

Beck: Yeah, the, the Heiner's Old

Fashioned bread was, was like the staple.

:

00:52:11,099 --> 00:52:14,539

And then in the '90s in the diet craze,

they came out with Heiner's 35, which

:

00:52:14,539 --> 00:52:16,159

was just very thinly sliced bread.

:

00:52:16,529 --> 00:52:18,759

It was the exact same bread,

just super thinly sliced.

:

00:52:18,769 --> 00:52:22,009

They had a 35 calories for you.

:

00:52:22,019 --> 00:52:23,829

Like, they had a whole little

jingle and everything that

:

00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:25,579

still lives in my head rent-free

:

00:52:26,114 --> 00:52:27,604

Dash: Yeah, I see a picture of it here

:

00:52:27,949 --> 00:52:30,319

Beck: but like I said, I lived a

few blocks down from it, and oh

:

00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:33,739

my God, the smell was amazing.

:

00:52:34,676 --> 00:52:36,366

Just industrial bread baking.

:

00:52:36,386 --> 00:52:40,516

Oh, what I would have given for a

fresh hot loaf off the, off the line.

:

00:52:40,816 --> 00:52:43,566

They used to give tours where they

did that at the end, and they stopped

:

00:52:43,576 --> 00:52:47,986

doing them before I moved to West

Virginia, so I missed that entirely

:

00:52:48,822 --> 00:52:54,562

Dash: And Huntington, I mean, m- m-

ha- makes quite a few food things.

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00:52:55,009 --> 00:52:56,569

West Virginia in general

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00:52:56,862 --> 00:52:59,817

Beck: for sure Huntington is

more in the game than people like

:

00:52:59,817 --> 00:53:01,337

to give it a, uh, credit for.

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00:53:01,611 --> 00:53:01,941

Dash: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:02,917 --> 00:53:05,677

Beck: Most people have a cousin somewhere

near Huntington too, I have learned

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00:53:07,037 --> 00:53:09,705

Dash: It is the sixth degree

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00:53:10,084 --> 00:53:11,584

Beck: My favorite is

you're from West Virginia.

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00:53:11,604 --> 00:53:12,904

I have a cousin from Richmond

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00:53:13,882 --> 00:53:14,122

Dash: Right.

:

00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:16,346

Beck: Richmond is in Virginia.

:

00:53:16,532 --> 00:53:17,252

Dash: Sinister

:

00:53:18,422 --> 00:53:23,160

has a, video on, is it Huntington Beach,

:

00:53:23,473 --> 00:53:24,473

Beck: There's Virginia Beach

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00:53:25,071 --> 00:53:26,851

Dash: Virgi- yeah, maybe

it was Virginia Beach.

:

00:53:27,121 --> 00:53:30,531

And she's like, "Why the fuck would

anybody go to V- Virginia Beach?"

:

00:53:31,479 --> 00:53:33,479

Beck: My nephew lives there,

which I still don't know why

:

00:53:33,802 --> 00:53:36,802

He doesn't have any family down there

or anything, but he likes it, so

:

00:53:37,269 --> 00:53:38,889

Dash: Who knows why we where we do

:

00:53:39,846 --> 00:53:39,946

Beck: His only option otherwise

is to move back to Portsmouth.

:

00:53:39,946 --> 00:53:40,076

Well, nobody wants him to move back

to Portsmouth 'cause there's just no

:

00:53:44,416 --> 00:53:47,426

opport- Like, he can get

different jobs there.

:

00:53:47,516 --> 00:53:50,476

He can work at FedEx, he can work

at Kroger, he can work at Chipotle,

:

00:53:50,736 --> 00:53:54,016

he can work at the gun range,

he can work as a security guard.

:

00:53:54,326 --> 00:53:55,756

There's all kinds of work for him there.

:

00:53:55,956 --> 00:53:58,326

In Portsmouth, there

would be nothing for him.

:

00:53:58,764 --> 00:53:59,224

Taco Bell and Domino's.

:

00:53:59,224 --> 00:54:02,154

Taco Bell drive-throughs and, and pizza

delivery would really be about it.

:

00:54:02,704 --> 00:54:03,774

And he shouldn't be driving.

:

00:54:03,774 --> 00:54:06,494

God, I hope he doesn't hear that,

but he should not be driving

:

00:54:06,835 --> 00:54:09,075

Can't believe somebody gave him

a license, to be honest with you

:

00:54:09,493 --> 00:54:12,223

Dash: As we've learned, they

kind of give those away.

:

00:54:12,453 --> 00:54:14,533

You know, it's, it's harder

to do the fucking paperwork

:

00:54:14,533 --> 00:54:15,883

than it is to pass the test

:

00:54:16,977 --> 00:54:18,817

Beck: Yehaw, for real

:

00:54:19,461 --> 00:54:21,781

Dash: When I was studying for the

Minnesota one though, because I,

:

00:54:21,861 --> 00:54:25,384

I thought they were gonna make

me retake the test when I moved

:

00:54:25,384 --> 00:54:26,414

here, 'cause they said they did.

:

00:54:26,424 --> 00:54:30,634

They said even if you have a license when

you come here, you have to take the test

:

00:54:30,634 --> 00:54:32,234

again, which I was like, "Damn, okay."

:

00:54:33,084 --> 00:54:34,424

it turned out to not be true.

:

00:54:34,683 --> 00:54:38,323

But I learned some interesting things

from it because apparently now, you

:

00:54:38,323 --> 00:54:41,893

know how the, it, the, it used to

be your hands go at:

:

00:54:41,893 --> 00:54:43,163

Apparently that's not the case anymore.

:

00:54:43,163 --> 00:54:44,573

It's 9:00 and 3:00 now

:

00:54:44,836 --> 00:54:47,656

Beck: Shanna let her license

go expired, expired and didn't

:

00:54:47,656 --> 00:54:49,016

realize it for, like, a year.

:

00:54:49,376 --> 00:54:51,786

So when she went to get her license

renewed, she had to take the whole

:

00:54:51,786 --> 00:54:54,796

test, the driving test, the written

part, all of it all over again.

:

00:54:55,017 --> 00:54:56,767

And we learned a lot about it then too.

:

00:54:56,767 --> 00:54:58,717

Yeah, she had to learn to

re- how to parallel park.

:

00:54:58,737 --> 00:54:59,607

That was not fun.

:

00:54:59,898 --> 00:55:00,568

But she made it.

:

00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:02,149

Maneuver.

:

00:55:02,149 --> 00:55:02,709

Maneuverability.

:

00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,909

It's the parallel parking.

:

00:55:03,919 --> 00:55:04,419

It's not.

:

00:55:05,943 --> 00:55:06,573

Shanna's home.

:

00:55:06,973 --> 00:55:07,483

She says hi

:

00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:12,450

Dash: I couldn't parallel park until

all of a sudden one day I could.

:

00:55:12,580 --> 00:55:14,250

It, it's we- it's like the, the

:

00:55:16,742 --> 00:55:17,962

Beck: Yeah, that's kinda how it works

:

00:55:18,934 --> 00:55:20,444

I'm pretty good at it, knock on wood.

:

00:55:20,454 --> 00:55:23,214

Now I won't be able to do it again for

the rest of my life by bragging on it.

:

00:55:23,574 --> 00:55:24,834

But I did it yester- yesterday?

:

00:55:24,834 --> 00:55:26,904

Was that when I got a

haircut was yesterday?

:

00:55:27,354 --> 00:55:27,904

Thursday?

:

00:55:28,494 --> 00:55:32,154

Thursday I got a haircut, and I had to

do it downtown BG, and I did it first try

:

00:55:32,671 --> 00:55:34,211

Dash: Well, I guess let's go have the day.

:

00:55:34,281 --> 00:55:34,301

Um

:

00:55:36,955 --> 00:55:38,315

Beck: Are you gonna go

watch fireworks anywhere?

:

00:55:38,882 --> 00:55:39,232

Dash: know.

:

00:55:39,232 --> 00:55:40,702

I was, I was looking into it.

:

00:55:41,042 --> 00:55:44,692

They're, they, they're having their little

street party here, but it just doesn't

:

00:55:44,692 --> 00:55:46,482

interest me, 'cause all they do is drink.

:

00:55:47,042 --> 00:55:50,132

you know, I'm not really morally

opposed to it, but it's, that's not for

:

00:55:50,142 --> 00:55:52,662

me, so I don't know what I would do.

:

00:55:53,592 --> 00:55:54,642

It's not like there's other shit

:

00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:54,760

Beck: A

:

00:55:54,952 --> 00:55:56,432

Dash: That's what they're

doing, is drinking.

:

00:55:57,062 --> 00:55:57,492

Beck: Yehaw

:

00:55:58,403 --> 00:56:02,989

Dash: somewhere around dusk hopefully a

bad cover band will break out somewhere.

:

00:56:02,989 --> 00:56:04,049

That will be interesting.

:

00:56:04,388 --> 00:56:04,588

Beck: Yehaw

:

00:56:04,689 --> 00:56:06,189

Dash: And then I hope that they blow

:

00:56:06,669 --> 00:56:06,889

up.

:

00:56:07,274 --> 00:56:10,224

But I'll, I'll see if I

can, can find something.

:

00:56:10,224 --> 00:56:13,234

And if nothing else, I definitely

am gonna go for a bike ride, I think

:

00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:15,520

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:15,950

Good.

:

00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:16,800

Good

:

00:56:17,358 --> 00:56:19,318

Dash: Oh, you remember you, you gave us…

:

00:56:19,348 --> 00:56:22,618

We did a photo assignment one

week but that was the week that we

:

00:56:22,618 --> 00:56:25,318

lost half of the episode because

of the internet connection.

:

00:56:25,794 --> 00:56:26,154

Beck: Mm-hmm.

:

00:56:26,378 --> 00:56:28,558

Dash: So it, was it dramatic bitches?

:

00:56:28,846 --> 00:56:30,446

Beck: Yes, that was the assignment

:

00:56:30,705 --> 00:56:31,115

Dash: All right.

:

00:56:31,715 --> 00:56:35,135

You wanna tell the listeners

about the photo assignments again?

:

00:56:35,374 --> 00:56:40,274

Beck: So long story short, when my mom

passed away the only way that I got myself

:

00:56:40,274 --> 00:56:43,904

out of bed for a long time was to go to

this very special park near my house.

:

00:56:44,254 --> 00:56:47,874

It's a flower garden, and I was

taking really fun pictures of

:

00:56:47,884 --> 00:56:49,434

all kinds of different flowers.

:

00:56:49,794 --> 00:56:53,224

And I would give myself these little

photo assignments like do something

:

00:56:53,224 --> 00:56:56,854

red today, do something yellow

today, or do the rainbow this week.

:

00:56:56,864 --> 00:57:01,274

Or the one that I'm going to assign for

us this week is the dramatic bitches one.

:

00:57:01,564 --> 00:57:05,454

Basically, if you look at nature, there

are all kinds of dramatic bitches out

:

00:57:05,454 --> 00:57:07,284

there from different kinds of flowers.

:

00:57:07,564 --> 00:57:08,254

Like, I remember…

:

00:57:08,264 --> 00:57:12,164

I'll try to find the photo if I can,

but it was basically a black plant with,

:

00:57:12,164 --> 00:57:14,424

like, black lace and purple flowers.

:

00:57:14,424 --> 00:57:16,334

It's the coolest thing I

have, like, have ever seen.

:

00:57:16,654 --> 00:57:17,884

And I got one of those at the park.

:

00:57:18,064 --> 00:57:18,944

There's beautyberry.

:

00:57:18,954 --> 00:57:22,304

There's all kinds of other, of really

cool things that you can do with that.

:

00:57:22,584 --> 00:57:23,344

And it's a lot of fun.

:

00:57:23,354 --> 00:57:24,514

It doesn't have to be of flowers.

:

00:57:24,514 --> 00:57:26,824

If you wanna do this project, it

doesn't have to be of flowers.

:

00:57:27,114 --> 00:57:28,884

Just anything, you know, in the world.

:

00:57:29,174 --> 00:57:31,484

Uh, but that's where I

started, was doing pictures.

:

00:57:31,834 --> 00:57:32,854

That's not where I started.

:

00:57:32,854 --> 00:57:34,424

That's where I, with this kind of thing.

:

00:57:34,644 --> 00:57:36,824

I started a photography

studio a long time ago.

:

00:57:37,094 --> 00:57:38,234

But I just used my cellphone.

:

00:57:38,264 --> 00:57:39,704

I didn't even break out my good camera.

:

00:57:39,884 --> 00:57:41,854

I got some really beautiful shots from it.

:

00:57:42,034 --> 00:57:45,414

And, and it really makes you problem

solve and be a creative thinker.

:

00:57:45,454 --> 00:57:46,964

So I highly recommend it

:

00:57:47,338 --> 00:57:52,098

Dash: I saw something on my last bike

ride that seemed really dramatic to

:

00:57:52,098 --> 00:57:55,588

me, so I'm gonna see if I can find

it again and, and get a photo of it.

:

00:57:56,548 --> 00:58:00,038

and if you wanna join us, uh,

in our photo assignment for the

:

00:58:00,038 --> 00:58:01,588

week, go outside, even if…

:

00:58:01,608 --> 00:58:04,008

Or if you don't wanna go outside, if

you see something out your window.

:

00:58:04,428 --> 00:58:09,428

Let's, uh, just find something

i- in the world that fits the

:

00:58:09,438 --> 00:58:11,438

dramatic bitch's nature brief.

:

00:58:12,138 --> 00:58:19,448

And I'll, I'll post mine on the Facebook

and the Instagram, and you can comment

:

00:58:19,448 --> 00:58:22,798

yours or post your own and tag us.

:

00:58:22,838 --> 00:58:23,688

What's, what's the hashtag?

:

00:58:24,451 --> 00:58:27,191

Tag Queernecks and then the

hashtag is dramaticbitches

:

00:58:28,224 --> 00:58:28,834

Beck: Sounds good to me

:

00:58:29,447 --> 00:58:33,268

Dash: All right, well, you know,

America hasn't earned a nice

:

00:58:33,268 --> 00:58:35,018

birthday party, but we have.

:

00:58:35,028 --> 00:58:36,728

So go have some fun.

:

00:58:37,578 --> 00:58:38,618

Have some fun this week.

:

00:58:38,708 --> 00:58:40,788

By the time this episode comes

out, the Fourth will be over.

:

00:58:40,908 --> 00:58:42,178

We hope you had some fun.

:

00:58:42,929 --> 00:58:44,879

And, uh, we'll see you next time.

:

00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:46,909

So say hi to your mom and them.

:

00:58:47,546 --> 00:58:47,966

Beck: Bye

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