Episode 57

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29th Jun 2026

Tiffany the Tarantula

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In this episode:

  • What if your parents were gay?
  • The Stonewall riots, hidden family secrets, and domestic violence
  • ADHD medications and heart health in rural communities
  • Deep dives into YouTube culture and internet rabbit holes
  • Why TikTok creators are going to theaters (Iron Lung, The Backrooms)
  • Naming your pets weird things (Tiffany the Tarantula, Brisket the cat)
  • Black Appalachia and Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr.'s legacy
  • Affrilachia, Frank X Walker, and reclaiming Appalachian narratives
  • Family game night, Trivial Pursuit, and how queer history sneaks into your living room

00:00 Intro & Growing Up Queer in Appalachia

00:49 Family Stories & Domestic Violence

04:08 TV, Streaming & Pop Culture Critique

13:35 YouTube Culture & Creators

21:38 Personal Health & ADHD Medications

22:09 ADHD, Heart Health & Medical Reality

23:28

32:18 Pet Stories & Naming Animals

44:50 Appalachian Scholars & Black Appalachia

50:15

51:37 Social Media & Academic Research

01:00:19 Outro & Call to Action

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Transcript
Beck:

Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that puts the yehaw in y'all means all.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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Dash: and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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What do you think it would've been like

growing up with gay parents as you are?

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Beck: Trying to imagine

either of my parents as a gay

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person is just mind-blowing.

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I can't even fathom that.

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So I can't imagine what

it would've been like.

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The gender roles were real in my family

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Dash: Yeah And it, it's hard to ans-

it's hard to even try to think about

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a question like that without…

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You have to, because what you have to work

with is the parents that you grew up with.

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And so then you're like, "No."

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Beck: Yeah.

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There were rumors that my biological

father dabbled in the gay arts but

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Dash: Queer arts.

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Beck: Yes.

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But, uh, I don't know anything confirmed.

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Mom said that she found out

he was going to the Stonewall,

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which was my first gay bar.

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And then that's when she decided that she

was done and she was gonna divorce him.

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Dash: Oh

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Beck: But that's all I know, is

that he was going to the gay bar.

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I don't know…

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I never wanted to ask

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Dash: yeah, which it could have been

true, but it also, going to a gay bar

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doesn't make a person gay necessarily.

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But also I think sometimes when

people are already checked out

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of a relationship, they're just

looking for that one little thing

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Beck: Yeah, well my dad

was a serial cheater

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too, so.

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Dash: Which that's funny because

that wasn't enough for her.

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It had to be that he was gay.

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Beck: Yeah.

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Like, 'cause that's what the way

that it was done in the '60s,

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Dash: people, oh my God, they are not okay

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Beck: Yeah, domestic violence was

a thing that was just kept under

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the rug 'cause my dad was a very

violent man on top of that, you know?

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And my mom stayed with him for 17

years, and, uh, apparently he got

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a lot better in his last years.

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His wife told me that he hadn't hit her

in probably a decade when he passed.

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So he had, I guess, found

Jesus or however that works

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Dash: Right.

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I remember there was a f- a family

that we, the family that had the

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farm that we spent a lot of time on.

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They were…

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Oh, man, it was a fight every…

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Well, every time we were

there, it was a fight.

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And he was brutal.

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They weren't even a- they weren't

even trying to h- he wasn't even

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trying to hide it from the kids.

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And so she was just like, "First of

all, you're gonna kill me one day."

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Like, he knocked out her teeth.

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She was so small.

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He was, like, 6'5", and he did

drywall for a living, so he was

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just built like a brick shit house

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Beck: Yeah, my dad was a

construction guy himself,

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ironwork

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Dash: the danger that he was

gonna literally kill her one day.

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Beck: my dad hid in the trunk one time

when my mom was trying to leave him with a

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shotgun and said he was gonna kill us all.

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Like, it was, my dad was

real, like a real crazy dude

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Dash: Yeah.

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This guy was too.

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And so after that, I didn't see

him anymore until David's funeral.

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And for some reason, he cornered me at

David's funeral and told me how he had got

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sober, and he didn't beat his new wife.

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And I was like, "What is this?

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Is it, it's part confession,

part excuse, and why here?

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Why now?

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Why me?

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Why do you care what I think of you?"

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Beck: Right?

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Dash: why.

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I don't know.

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Oh, this, uh…

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Brisket locked himself in the

bedroom and he's, like, howling.

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Hang on.

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Oh, it was Ziggy the window is open

and so it blew the door closed on her

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Beck: Hey, that's a good idea.

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Hang on, let me crack my window.

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Dash: Did you get your tickets?

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Beck: My tick- what tickets?

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Dash: To the gun show?

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Beck: Front row, baby

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Dash: I've always wanted to do that joke.

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Oh, man.

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And that's from The Office.

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Well, I don't think they invented

it, but that's what made me

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remember that joke was The Office.

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Did you ever watch that show?

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Beck: No, I tried.

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It just, I just didn't get the humor

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Dash: It, uh, I didn't

watch it either, Freely.

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Uh, but I, it was, it's always on some- it

was always on somewhere for a time there.

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And I have a friend who's, or two

friends who are obsessed with it.

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Like, they watch it over and over again.

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And I, anytime I see it I'll, like,

chuckle 'cause they'll have it

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on sometimes when I'm over there,

and I'll chuckle at it, and then

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they're like, "Well, if you find

it funny, why don't you like it?"

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And I was like, "That is a,

that's a valid question."

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It's because I don't care what happens.

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I don't care what happens to these people.

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I never watch a frame of it that makes me

go, "I wonder what's gonna happen next?"

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Like, this isn't for me

because nothing happens.

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And sim- similar to Seinfeld.

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I can't fucking stand Seinfeld

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Beck: Yeah, me too

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Dash: I much preferred like Parks and

Rec over Office, and people will often

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like juxtapose the two because Parks and

Rec is loaded with character and story

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and even commentary on institutions and

power dynamics and politics and stuff.

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But anyway, the person who makes

that joke in The Office is, uh,

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Rainn Wilson's character, Dwight.

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And, uh, recently, Rainn Wilson said

that h- you know, The Office wouldn't

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be able to be made in this current

climate of political correctness

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and every- and everybody's roasted

him for it, which is good, uh,

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because that's so fucking stupid.

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The Office was the most

nothing burger of a show.

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does he think they were doing like

edge lord humor on The Office?

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Beck: They just came out with, I

think it a- got canceled already.

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There was a show called The Paper that

was supposed to be the new Office,

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but it was set in Toledo, Ohio.

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There was a local newspaper.

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I watched an episode of it 'cause

it was set in Toledo, and it was bad

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Dash: The Paper, it does look like

they're really trying to be Office-like.

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: It's got Oscar Nunez in it,

who was, uh, was on The Office.

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Oh, it's a s- It's a spin-off.

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Okay So it is, it's part

of that whole universe.

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Beck: Right

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Dash: Well, it hasn't been "was-ed"

yet on the Wikipedia page, so

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maybe it hasn't been canceled yet

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Beck: Maybe.

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Nobody I know is watching it

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Dash: I mean, maybe they're just banking

on The Office folks to wanna see it.

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Beck: Yeah.

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Have you noticed how many

shows get set in Toledo?

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Dash: Uh, a lot of shows

get set in Ohio in general

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Beck: Yehaw

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Dash: because the, so they'll be

set in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana,

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and it's because that is the

Middle American sort of zeitgeist.

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There's jokes about it.

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So that one of my favorite jokes in

Futurama was about the television

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industry, and there's some robots that

are, uh, like giving input on whether a

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show will be successful, and one of them

goes, " But will it play in Peoria?"

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And that's, that's kinda

what they were talking about.

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Like Glee is set in Lima, Ohio

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Beck: Yeah, I know.

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That's up here too.

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Dash: But, the joke about that show was

that it was a stereotype of America.

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Like, even when we try to do

diversity in television, we're

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tokenizing, we're stereotyping.

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I'm not a Glee stan or even really a

Glee defender, but I do get irritated

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when people critique the show

because all of the characters are

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stereotypes, and it's like, correct.

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Yeah that's, that's the point.

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They're all stereotypes because it's kind

of a commentary on how we do television.

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Beck: I use it often in class to

talk about the social homophobia,

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like the idea of being gay but not

wanting to be caught, about how the

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football player beat up on the gay kid,

and how thou dost protest too much.

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We talk about that in class.

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Sometimes the people who are most

anti-gay are the queerest ones out there,

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Dash: Do you give them

the studies on it too?

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Beck: No, I didn't know there were studies

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Dash: Oh yeah there's literally proof.

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There is science about how homophobia,

extreme homophobia to the point that it

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becomes your personality, just being an

expression of self-loathing homosexuality

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Beck: We do talk, about the Kinsey scale

and how all of, we brought sex into

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the laboratory and things like that.

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and I always say, "So if you're

not gay, you still have some time."

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Dash: H- That's right.

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I saw, there's a TikTok video of a

mom talking to her little girl, and

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her little girl's like, "What's gay?"

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Uh, and she's, I would guess

maybe five, four or five.

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And the mom's like, "Oh okay.

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So it's when a boy loves another

boy and a girl loves another girl."

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And you know, she, she did great

I think, especially for the way

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a kid will just pop that on you.

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Beck: Right?

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Dash: And then the kid's

like, "Are you gay?"

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And she said, "I unfortunately am not gay.

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I'm married to your dad."

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Uh, and the g- little girl got

sad, and she goes, "Ah, that

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means I'm probably not gay."

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And her mom was like, "Well, you could be.

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We don't know."

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It was so funny,

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Beck: I think I saw that video.

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Now that I hear what you're, that,

that part of it, I believe I saw that

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Dash: so endearing to see her

go like, "How do I do this?

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Okay."

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Like, that's how you do it,

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you know?

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I

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mean, it's like a kid saying

like, "Well, I guess I'll

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never be a fighter jet pilot."

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It's like, well, not with that attitude

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Same goes for being gay.

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Beck: If you work hard and

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Dash: You'll be rewarded.

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Beck: become one of God's special

chosen children I always say, why

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would he have made us so cute and

adorable if he didn't like us, you know?

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Dash: Why is gay a synonym for happy?

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Beck: Exactly.

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I know why it's a synonym

for awkward 'cause of me.

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Dash: Um,

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You know how it says in the Bible

that you're not allowed to take

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more than one trip to bring in

all the groceries from the car?

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Beck: I am aware of that passage, yes.

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Dash: Uh, I believe it's

efficiencies 11, 12.

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Beck: First efficiencies

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Dash: I was thinking that is a

way to, uh, describe my particular

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brand of OCD because my whole…

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That applies to my entire life.

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Everything I do has to follow that

scripture, Every little thing, like the…

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I don't know.

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Uh, I don't wanna get

too in, in the weeds.

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However, it's becoming a challenge with,

as I get older and have to take more and

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more fucking medications because I have

to take them all in one, and it's a pile.

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It's a palmful of pills.

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And so every morning, this morning

I caught myself, I was like,

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and it, like I throw them in and

it's like a mouthful of pills.

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It's so…

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it's getting disturbing

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Beck: Do you ever swallow one, uh, or

swallow and there's one left behind?

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And then you have to s-

hurry and take a second drink

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Dash: Oh, yeah.

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Beck: Especially the tiny ones.

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They get stuck in there

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Dash: After I got sort of struck

by lightning my ear, the tissue

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in my ear was really damaged, I

had to take prednisone, I guess.

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It was steroids.

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And they were these, like, fast

dissolve and the most disgusting thing.

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I can still remember the

fucking taste of those pills.

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And I was young, you know, and so

not used to taking pills, and I

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remember it was such a struggle.

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Like, I would be, like,

gagging, couldn't get it down.

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My mom did the thing where she,

like, crushed it up, mixed it

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with water and sugar in a spoon,

and I tried to do it that way.

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That wasn't enough.

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That was brutal

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Beck: The worst medicine I ever had

to take I'm allergic to contrast

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dye, so if you get an MRI or whatever

with contrast dye I nearly die.

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That's how we learned I was

allergic to it, 'cause we did it.

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And so when you're

allergic to that, it's…

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When you have to have something

like that done, they give you an

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alternative, and the flavor they

had, I had- Apple yogurt Blegh.

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It was gross, but I got my test done, so

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Dash: Why would they choose those flavors?

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Beck: I don't know.

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That I don't know.

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But that's what I remember about it

is how disgusting apple yogurt was.

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It's a drink, uh, 'cause

it was in a bottle.

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It wasn't like yogurt,

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Dash: When mom was in the hospital I f-

for whatever reason, like they were…

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She couldn't eat and they, they

were having trouble getting,

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you know, calories in her.

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And so they were giving her those Boosts

or Ensure's or something, like a shake.

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And she, all she could talk about

was how disgusting they were.

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I was like, m- well, and I don't

doubt it, especially because she

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was like, "It's room temperature.

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Why would you give me this?

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It's like pretending to be some

sort of like milkshake and you

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give it to me room temperature.

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What are you doing?"

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Beck: Shana and I laughed till we

almost cried a little while ago.

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Like, literally tears were

coming out of our eyes.

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And it was so stupid.

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We were just talking we were talking

about how it would be funny to have

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a wiener dog and name it Peter, and

then have another one called Willy.

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And then I suggested the last name Long,

while she said it should be Johnson.

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So we were like, "All right,

so we got Peter Long Johnson

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and Willy Long Johnson, our

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Dash: I was just about to

say Long is the middle name.

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Beck: Yeah.

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It struck us so funny we cried.

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We were laughing so hard.

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That's why we're still good together,

because we can sit on the couch and laugh

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like that, you know, 23 years later, we're

still belly laughing over dick jokes.

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Dash: Which is just proof that

dick jokes are only funny to

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the person who makes them.

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I actually, I laughed until I cried.

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I was wheezing and coughing this

morning as well, but I live alone, so…

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Uh, but it was because

I was watching YouTube.

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There was a guy…

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It's like the, this genre of YouTube

video called Let's Play, where they

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are just playing games, kind of giving

commentary on the experience, and the

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screen shows us the game they're playing.

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And some of them are, like,

serious gamers and whatever.

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I don't care about those.

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And I don't even know who this

guy was, but he was pl- and,

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or what game he was playing.

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It was called The Professional, is

what it said in the description, and

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it's a burglar heist game where…

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And I don't know anything else about

the rest of the game because I only

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watched this, like, five-minute segment

of him trying to apparently manipulate

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every single joint on this person's

body to get through some lasers in

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a museum, you know, like, to steal

a, the Hope Diamond or something.

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And so literally he had to, like, position

fingers, hand, wrist, knees ankles, head

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with, like, click and drag, and then do

something that caused it to try to move.

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And it was just him, like, putting

this thing in ridiculous positions,

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trying to get it to, like, flop

over the, across the, the lasers,

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and he just couldn't do it.

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For five straight minutes, he

couldn't get this thing to move.

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And the way it was flopping, it

reminded me of that QWOPing game.

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Do you remember QWOPing?

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Beck: No, I don't remember that

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Dash: Uh, it's Q-W-O-P, and it's

called that because the two, the

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Q-W-O-P letters are on, you know, the

top outside of the keyboard, and you

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use those to try to control a running

pace for a little person on a track.

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And it was, like, each of their feet,

their legs or, and hands and stuff

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like that and nobody could do it.

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It w- it took…

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I would say the internet, this

was probably 15 years ago.

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Let me Google this.

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Let me see if we can still play QWOP.

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2008 ragdoll-based browser video game.

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So there's a name for this.

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Okay, there's a website.

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I'm just gonna give myself a vir-

Oh my God, I'm playing it right now.

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Okay.

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I wonder…

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Oh, didn't we find out we can't

share screen in this fucking-

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Beck: That's so dumb

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Dash: I know.

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I don't know about this

software, but whatever.

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Anyway, we, so we landed on the wheel of

what-have-you told us we needed to bring

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some YouTube things that made us laugh.

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The YouTube landscape is vast.

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I love the two to three-hour

deep dives on shit.

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Like, the, I'll put one of those on

and sit and watch about something

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and a lot of times it's something

that I don't give a shit about.

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It's really interesting that I will

do that on YouTube and nowhere else.

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I take the decision of what to watch very

seriously on every app except for YouTube,

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where I'm like, "I don't give a fuck

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Beck: Yeah.

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I watch some crazy stuff on YouTube.

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Like there's this one channel, there's

this one channel called Visual Venture.

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He's trying to get to two and

a half million subscribers, so

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maybe we'll help him do that.

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But he has like the darkest channels

he does deep dives on different

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inter- slices of internet history,

and I find it really interesting.

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Dash: Cool

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Beck: I watch a lot of That Chapter.

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I don't know if you've

ever heard of That Chapter.

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He's a guy who is either

Irish or Scottish.

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I've never deciphered which he is.

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But he does American crime stories,

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Dash: Ah, yep.

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I know who you're talking about.

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Beck: yeah.

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Dash: he has kind of a sense of humor too.

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Beck: Yeah, his name's Mike

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Dash: he's not a comedy channel,

but, like, he's not dry about it.

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And I like…

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The dry ones are fine.

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Like, I watch Dreading

and Explore With Us.

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The funny thing about, you know how

Netflix has really gotten into true crime

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documentaries and shit lately because

they realize they go viral on TikTok?

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They're just straight going

through those channels and pulling

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from the cases that they cover.

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So, like, I saw the case

of this Taylor woman that,

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Beck: With a car crash?

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Dash: No, that's K- Mackenzie Shirilla.

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I saw her.

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That, but her case is more recent.

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But the woman m- in Maternal Instinct

is the name of the documentary

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Beck: We watched that one too.

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Yeah, I knew I knew the name.

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We watched it too

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Dash: Mm-hmm.

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And so I saw her…

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That happened in like 2021 and

I saw that on Explore With Us

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back when I lived in Kentucky.

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so I started like looking through their

true crime things, and it's all stuff

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that they're just, that has already

been covered by the YouTubers And now

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YouTube is going to the box office.

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We've had at least two m- box

office releases from YouTubers

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this year, just this year.

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Beck: I didn't know that

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Dash: Yeah, Markiplier released a,

He's a, he's another one who does

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the, uh, let's play type of thing, and

apparently he's, like, popular with,

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uh, with younger people, like teens

and stuff, and, like, non-problematic.

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I don't know anything

else about him, right?

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But apparently he's, like, somebody

you can leave your kids with.

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He's got a podcast or whatever.

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But he played a game called Iron

Lung that a lot of people loved,

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and it, it was a cool concept.

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I don't know shit about games.

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But he self-financed and produced

and s- wrote, directed, starred in

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this adaptation of the video game.

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And it's good.

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It's pretty good.

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He- you can tell he pays attention.

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You can tell he knows things

about, production or whatever.

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Super small cast.

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It was…

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He's the only person that's

ever fully on camera.

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There's two people we see through a

little, like, portal because he's in

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a, he's in a underwater craft, and then

there's some voice actors over the radio.

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And they, he made, they made bank

basically, and then when it came time to

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release it, he released it independently.

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Didn't go through any of

the streaming services.

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And I'm like, "That is, that's important.

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That could really change things,"

because the streaming services have

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had a fucking chokehold on creativity.

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I'm not gonna be a boomer about it

and say they've, they're, they've

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killed the movie industry or

anything, cause that's not accurate.

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A lot of things are

killing the movie industry.

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and I love a lot of

the streaming services.

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I love long-form television.

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That's one of my favorite

things in the world is long-form

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television and mini-series.

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Anyway, and the other one is The Backrooms

Both horror movies, interestingly

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Beck: Gotcha.

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We were gonna go see that at

the drive-in, but we decided

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to watch something else instead

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Dash: It's gonna scare you, The Backrooms.

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I haven't seen it, but the story of it…

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And it's a, it's one very specific

interpretation of The Backrooms.

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The interesting thing about The

Backrooms is that it's an internet meme.

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Goes back to the mid-2000s.

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It's, uh, from 4chan.

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And it was somebody just posted a picture.

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, On a board where they were - a

thread where they were talking

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about liminal spaces, like liminal

aesthetic, and somebody posted a

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picture of this, like, very mid-'80s

aesthetic blank office space.

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Yellow, you know, walls and stuff,

and they were just like you're in

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here, and you hear something in the

distance," or something like that.

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And it's…

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That's where The Backrooms comes from.

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Then they started to create all this lore

about the different levels and what is

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in the backrooms, and then there's a wiki

now, and people added levels and things.

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And there's even purists who

are like, "No, there aren't

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monsters in the backrooms.

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It's just a liminal s- thing.

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That's what's scary about it."

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It's interesting.

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Beck: It really is

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We're gonna go see Supergirl this

Tuesday 'cause it's half price

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and I can't,

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Dash: Man, I should go see a movie.

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I've been leaving the house more.

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Now that I have my meds

back, I might be better.

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They didn't have my ADHD meds though.

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Can you tell?

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Beck: Yeah, they're out of mine as well.

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I'm on Adderall.

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Uh, there's no secret about that.

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Yeah, and that…

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'Cause I take two different ones.

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I take the extended release, and

then I take the non-extended release.

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I take one

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first thing in the morning and, yeah.

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And they're out of both of them.

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So luckily I have enough for this week.

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But we'll see how it goes

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Dash: No, not me.

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I'm just raw dogging ADHD

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Beck: I'm also on Pristiq.

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I don't know if you've

heard of that one before

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Dash: No.

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Something does need to be done

though, because they don't want

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to increase my Adderall dose

because I have a heart defect.

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They found the same heart

defect that's killing mom.

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I'll probably cut this out.

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But while they were trying to figure

out what, what was making me sick,

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they were like, "Oh, you have…

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It's called leaky aorta."

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yeah.

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It's…

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A- and he was like, "You know,

you're not gonna die of it tomorrow,

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but yeah, eventually you'll

have congestive heart failure."

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Beck: I'm sorry, dude

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Dash: I mean, there's…

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They can treat it.

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You can try to be a healthier

version of yourself while you're

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younger, which is really the best

course of action for something like

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that 'cause my mom did not do that.

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But also, like, something's

gonna kill all of us

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Beck: None of my aunts made it past

50, the 50s, so I'm hoping that

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I just make it to 60 is all I'm

hoping, so I can beat all of them,

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'cause it's competition at this point

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Dash: maybe.

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And my, that generation of, you know, my

mom and her siblings, many of them have

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lived longer than their parents did.

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So, like, the hope is that we are c-

once this nightmare of an administration

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is over, we go back to trying to learn

about science and health and stuff.

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:

the other thing we would need

to do is democratize medicine

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Beck: You know, The United States

is the only country participating

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in the World Cup that doesn't

have, uh, socialized medicine

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Dash: I saw that, yeah.

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Beck: We're also one of three

industrialized nations, the other

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two being Swaziland and Papua

New Guinea, that don't offer, uh,

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government-funded maternity leave

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:

Dash: I was listening…

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Remember when we were

talking about Super El Niño?

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And I was, uh, listening to a

climatologist talk about it this

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morning and know a little bit

more about it, and I'm t- I want

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to go back to precedented times,

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Beck: Right?

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Dash: precedented.

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I'm getting fatigued with all of

these things, 'cause it's gonna cause,

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like, a famine basically next year

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:

Beck: Have you heard that LA,

the fault that they're on is like

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at 1,000 year high or something?

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Dash: Yeah.

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:

It is, it's gonna go.

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Like, and a lot of people, at this point,

people who live in California, they always

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kinda talk about the big one and joke

about the big one, and man, is it overdue.

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash: Damn.

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:

Do you know that Kentucky, like,

h- per, I don't know what you

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would call it, per square foot

has more faults than California?

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Beck: I did not know that

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Dash: It's full of them I think because

it's at the foothills of the Appalachias

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:

and because of it being it has so

many caves and rivers and underwear-

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:

underwater- underground water systems

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:

Beck: You said underwear

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:

Dash: I did.

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:

Oh, uh, I s- I put the link to the

YouTube teleparty in the Slack And

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Beck: put my link, the first

one that I wanna start with

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Dash: okay

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Beck: Yehaw.

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Oh Join the party

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:

Dash: There you are so this came, uh, Eric

sent me this and he found it on Twitter.

529

:

There's an account that just tweets this

over and over again and I don't know why,

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:

What are they doing?

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We're just innocent men.

532

:

And there's, like, people have asked them

about the clip, the, t- the performers in

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:

that, and they were like, "I don't know."

534

:

Like, the guy who was doing the puppet,

he goes, "I just did this thing.

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I asked her to get down real close."

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:

And listeners, if you haven't seen

that clip, and I'll put a link to

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:

it in the episode description it's a

puppet and a human woman, and she…

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:

The clip opens with them nose-to-nose.

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:

She's bent down to be nose-to-nose to him.

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:

And so he was like, "Yeah, I just told

her to get real close to the puppet, and

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then I said that, and she died laughing."

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:

And that was what he wanted,

was to just crack her up.

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:

I think what's funny to me

about it is the way she breaks.

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She wasn't expecting it, and this

little snort when she laughs, I

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:

was like, "He really got her."

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:

I love seeing somebody

really get somebody.

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Beck: Yehaw

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:

Dash: that is a good joke right there

when you can just get them like that,

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:

and on TV.

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Beck: I agree

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:

Dash: Okay, let me get I can't

remember if we were on the air or not

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:

or if we were recording yet when you

explained this clip, so, you wanna

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tell us why you picked this one?

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Beck: So this clip was, it was my mom's,

like, favorite video for a long time.

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It was the first video that I remember,

like, kinda going viral in my family.

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It's like the first

YouTube video I ever saw.

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:

And it had…

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it pops up every now and again,

not so much now that my mom died.

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But it would just make the

family rounds sometimes.

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:

And again, it was my kinda

first introduction to YouTube,

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Dash: Oh, man.

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:

Beck: Okay, so it is very sophomore

humor, but I mean, it, my mom

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like cried laughing over it,

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:

Dash: and what's incredible about this

too is that it is also a real commercial.

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Beck: Exactly

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:

Dash: Oh my God, I haven't seen that one.

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:

All right.

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:

This is the one I was telling

you that I picked because I

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want-- I think you'll like it.

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Beck: This sounds like

people from Bingo, I swear

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:

Dash: Well, and so that video

is from 10 years ago now.

572

:

It's been and from a comedian named

Libby Higgins, but that was early in

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her career kind of the first time…

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:

She was active on Vine.

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She was one of those people

who was really funny on Vine.

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:

But the number of people who

thought that was real, right?

577

:

They didn't know that was a

character was kinda surprising to me.

578

:

She has a podcast too called Trailer

Tales with a couple of other comedians.

579

:

Th- they're very funny.

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:

There's rumors that one or more of

them is MAGA, but I in my limited

581

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efforts, haven't been able to verify

that because they don't really talk

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about serious things on their podcast.

583

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It's only jokes about being white trash.

584

:

Beck: Right?

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:

Dash: But anyway I, I

enjoy her shit Excuse me?

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:

Beck: Excuse me.

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:

She reminds me of my old

neighbor, Suzanne, but she was…

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:

Suzanne thought she was high shit.

589

:

She was a gym teacher.

590

:

She was the lady, I've told you

about her before, when we moved

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:

to Bowling Green, the first thing

she said to me was, "Honey, we

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:

gotta get that weight off of you."

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:

Dash: Oh, right, right

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:

Beck: I saw you posted you were

200 days smoke-free, by the way.

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:

Congratulations.

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:

Dash: Yehaw,

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:

Beck: I'm so proud of you

598

:

Dash: Pretty crazy.

599

:

That's, it's more than ha-

it's more than half a year

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:

Beck: Yeah, that's fantastic.

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:

If you can make it a couple of

years, you're gonna be scot-free.

602

:

You know what I mean?

603

:

'Cause you're still gonna have

a lot of cravings and stuff

604

:

where you're at right now.

605

:

But are you to where it smells awful?

606

:

Have you gotten through that

607

:

Dash: Yeah I walked past somebody that

was puffing away and I was like, "Ugh."

608

:

It kind of burnt the

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:

inside of my nose, you know?

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:

Beck: Yeah.

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:

That goes away.

612

:

Thankfully, that goes

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:

away.

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:

It's not as bad after a couple years,

so, because now it just reminds me of

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:

my mom, and I kinda like how it smells

616

:

Dash: Yehaw.

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:

Maybe I'll just…

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:

But I want you to be able to see

it, and we can't share screen.

619

:

You know, w- maybe we'll do s- memes and

social media and stuff on another episode.

620

:

And use software we can

actually share screens.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Yeah let's…

623

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'Cause th- there is social media

on the wheel of what have you

624

:

also, so that would work for that.

625

:

But yeah.

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:

Well, uh, I would be interested in

hearing y- y'all's favorite YouTube stuff.

627

:

Is there a channel you like?

628

:

Is there a compilation you like?

629

:

I like to watch things about spiders.

630

:

Beck: Ugh

631

:

Dash: I don't know why.

632

:

I'm just f- fascinated by them.

633

:

They're just really cool.

634

:

I don't know.

635

:

It's weird.

636

:

I would

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:

Beck: I've n-

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:

Dash: one

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:

Beck: my best friend hates spiders,

and then her her son came home

640

:

with a like a giant tarantula.

641

:

And when he moved out, he left the

spider, and Tracy ended up taking care

642

:

of it, and its name what was its name?

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:

Tiffany.

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:

The spider's name was Tiffany.

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:

Dash: That is not what I

was expecting you to say.

646

:

Beck: And it just passed

away like a month ago.

647

:

Dash: Aw RIP Tiffany

648

:

Tarantula

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:

Beck: Tiffany.

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:

Dash: I had a coworker that

had a cat named Chicken, and I

651

:

thought that was really funny.

652

:

Beck: Yeah, I had a cat named Ted, damn it

653

:

Dash: yeah.

654

:

I don't know if I've really had too many.

655

:

That…

656

:

I was about to say something

so stupid, that I haven't had

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:

weird pet names for my cats.

658

:

Beck: Yeah, you have a brisket?

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:

Dash: Brisket, Beef.

660

:

Beck: I had one named Trance.

661

:

We called him Trance in your pants

662

:

Dash: I think it's that like

it, when you name an animal,

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it's no longer weird to you.

664

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It's, it might be weird to other

people, but like it never sound, Brisket

665

:

never sounds weird to me until I have

to tell somebody his name's Brisket.

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:

And then I'm like, "Oh, okay.

667

:

Yeah, this is odd."

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:

And Beef he w- he reminded

me of a cow and was fat, so

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Beck: I get it.

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:

Dash: Yehaw

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:

Beck: I've been calling

Rue, uh, Rufus this week.

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:

I've not settled on her nickname yet.

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:

Or if she has like a full name, it's

gonna be Rue Dabega, D-A-B-E-G-A.

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:

Rue

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:

Dash: yeah

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:

Beck: But Rufus has stuck this week, so

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:

Dash: I'll either name it whatever

word pops into my head, which is what

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:

happened with Brisket, or they'll be

named after some book or TV show or movie.

679

:

So Oscar and Felix are named after…

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:

Oscar is named after a book,

a character in Extremely Loud

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:

and Incredibly Close, the

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narrator.

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:

Beck: Yeah

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:

Dash: Felix is named Felix

because Oscar was named Oscar,

685

:

and they're the odd couple

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:

Beck: Got ya.

687

:

We, I always let my

animals name themselves.

688

:

I keep 'em for a while and then

they tell me what their name is.

689

:

Like Ted, we named him

because of TED Talks.

690

:

That cat never shut up, so his name

was TED Talks Damn It, was his name.

691

:

. Today was, uh, Does That

Dog Have Eyebrows Day

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:

Dash: Do you want me to post

that on the Queerneck story?

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:

Yeah.

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:

The original post let's hear

from this week's sponsor

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:

Beck: Okay

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:

Dash: So, uh, first wanna recognize

that this is not a universal experience.

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:

There are probably many folks who

didn't have this experience growing

698

:

up for various reasons, and maybe

this experience is gone entirely

699

:

for some of our younger viewers.

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:

I don't know.

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:

You'll have to let us know.

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:

But we are, uh, sponsored today by,

uh, Family Game Night, the highly

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:

competitive tournament breeding mild

resentment held right at the kitchen

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:

table on a rainy Friday night.

705

:

This holler tradition of pulling a stack

of taped up cardboard boxes out of the

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:

hall closet and trying to construct an

evening of it out of sheer chaos was

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:

likely born out of the need to keep the

youngins out of trouble of a weekend.

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:

The inventory is always

a complete disaster.

709

:

You've got several ancient sets of

nearly complete card decks, so you

710

:

can play poker, but no one has ever

seen the point in buying chips when

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:

there are so many different kinds

of dried pasta in the cupboard.

712

:

If somebody wants to play checkers, the

board is missing half the set, so you're

713

:

kinging milk jug caps with old washers.

714

:

But the highlight of the night is

the:

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:

You just don't know the glory of

playing a 20 years out of date trivia

716

:

game that nobody stands a chance

in hell of knowing anything about.

717

:

There is little funnier than asking a

teenager to identify the Secretary of

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:

State under the Reagan administration

or name a Czech tennis player who

719

:

retired before they were born just

to get a little plastic wedge.

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:

The pop culture category is

basically just a list of people

721

:

who died of old age 20 years ago.

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:

But every now and then, that 1987 box

will absolutely throw you for a loop.

723

:

You'll be sitting there under the

fluorescent kitchen light picking a

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:

history card, expecting a question about

the construction of the Hoover Dam or

725

:

some shit, and suddenly you get hit with

a question about the Stonewall riots.

726

:

Right there between questions about

Iran-Contra, and the birthstone for

727

:

October, the game drops a piece of

queer liberation history on a family

728

:

that hasn't even processed the fact

that their uncle's roommate has been

729

:

living there for a real long time.

730

:

It is a beautiful, deeply awkward five

seconds of absolute silence while your

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:

papaw tries to figure out if Stonewall

has something to do with Jackson.

732

:

By hour three, the dog has eaten the

green wedges, your cousin has gone all

733

:

in on a pair of jacks with a bowl of

uncooked penne, and everybody is too

734

:

tired to argue anymore, which is really

the entire purpose of family game night.

735

:

So Family Game Night, teaching country

kids how to navigate high stakes gambling

736

:

and unexpected social history long before

we had to deal with the real world.

737

:

And now back to Queernecks where

our pasta is still uncooked

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:

Beck: See, we had a real, uh, a

real life slot machine in my house.

739

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Um, my dad tracked down the first

one my mom ever played and bought

740

:

it, and it sat right outside my room

741

:

Dash: Oh yeah, you told me that.

742

:

That is cool.

743

:

Did you have to use money to play it?

744

:

Beck: Quarters, yeah.

745

:

You put quarters in it.

746

:

Mom had a bucket of quarters that stayed

in it, and you could play all you wanted.

747

:

I had a cousin who was delayed and he

would sit there for hours and play that,

748

:

and he'd hit the jackpot and he'd love it.

749

:

But yeah, it was a lot of fun.

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:

the whore that moved into my mom's

house, some- they did something with it.

751

:

It was not there when I moved back in

752

:

Dash: Oh man, that sucks.

753

:

You might be able to track it

754

:

down on like eBay or something

755

:

Beck: Maybe.

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:

I couldn't prove that it was mine.

757

:

There were no, like,

papers or anything, you

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:

Dash: Right

759

:

You know, we, mom had a giant…

760

:

She had these, well, tons of mason jars

and Ball jars and things everywhere,

761

:

and one of them was full of pennies.

762

:

And it was like a, I don't know if it was

a gallon, but it was one of those ones

763

:

that was like a, you know, a foot tall.

764

:

Beck: Yehaw

765

:

Dash: Which you're not supposed to keep

pennies in that, in those because they

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:

can explode, but, you know, whatever.

767

:

And so we would play poker with those.

768

:

But some- I don't know why, but

sometimes we would also actually play

769

:

with pasta, like different kinds of

uncooked pasta that she kept in various

770

:

Beck: My family would…

771

:

By the time I was old enough to, 'cause

I was the youngest, so by the time I was

772

:

old enough to be playing games, I remember

playing Pictionary with my brother-in-law

773

:

one time, and I didn't know what a goatee

was, and he got mad and quit playing.

774

:

So

775

:

Dash: I think that I don't know,

but really lucky to grow up

776

:

having that experience, and some

of my favorite memories are…

777

:

'Cause we really did, it was regular,

778

:

Beck: Well, we had card nights.

779

:

My grandparents used to come over

and play cards with my mom and dad

780

:

every night when I was a kid, but I

didn't get to play in those games.

781

:

But then once in a while

we'd have a whole family.

782

:

We played this game called Oh

Shit which was kind of like an

783

:

early predecessor to Phase 10.

784

:

It was the same idea as Phase

10 with different rounds.

785

:

And we used to play that as a family,

so there, there was some card.

786

:

And euchre, they used to play euchre.

787

:

Ooh, did they had a trophy for

their euchre tournaments that

788

:

they would pass back and forth.

789

:

So that was our version, I guess.

790

:

you know how to play euchre?

791

:

Dash: Uh, no.

792

:

Beck: It's very easy to learn

793

:

Dash: I mean, I would like to.

794

:

I like card games.

795

:

Uh, we used to play those a lot too on

family game night, especially as we got

796

:

old enough to, like, do more complex math.

797

:

Around the time I was probably…

798

:

It was, we still lived in the trailer

park, so I would've been, like, under 10,

799

:

under 11 And probably quite a bit younger

than that, we started playing poker.

800

:

And poker is like the intro,

especially like five card draw,

801

:

that's easy to learn the basic

mechanics of how a card game works.

802

:

And but then as we got a little

bit older, we played a lot of Rook,

803

:

which uses a proprietary deck.

804

:

You don't use a standard

card deck for Rook.

805

:

there's a, a game similar to Rook that

does use a standard card deck called

806

:

Setback, and the grownups would play that.

807

:

I don't know why, because

they're the same game basically.

808

:

But the grownups played Setback, but when

they were with the kids, we played Rook

809

:

I love Rook.

810

:

I haven't played it

811

:

w-

812

:

Beck: never played that one

813

:

Dash: like 20 years.

814

:

It's, I, it's so good.

815

:

This, it's such high-level

strategy and reading people,

816

:

but the thing about the

Stonewall, that's real.

817

:

That's how I learned about Stonewall, was

from our out-of-date Trivial Pursuit game

818

:

Beck: Oh, I didn't learn until like

I got to like almost grad school.

819

:

Dash: obviously I'm not learning

about it from the game, but that's

820

:

the first time I heard about it.

821

:

And even just the way the question

was phrased, like, you know, it was

822

:

asking about, like, what kind of…

823

:

You know, what was the riot or

action about, you know, gay rights

824

:

that took place, yada, yada.

825

:

Uh, and so that was the first time

as a kid I actually even thought that

826

:

such a thing might happen, that gay

rights were a thing, that k- that

827

:

places gay people hung out were a thing

828

:

Beck: Right?

829

:

I just didn't think about gay stuff

until I got out of high school.

830

:

Like, I knew I knew deep in my heart

'cause I had feelings for particular

831

:

people that I knew my other friends

weren't having the same kinds of feelings.

832

:

But I wouldn't let myself come

to grips with that because it was

833

:

so scary in high school back then

834

:

Dash: You know.

835

:

Man, I had such intense crushes.

836

:

Beck: Yeah, me too.

837

:

Dash: But I, the girl that I wound up,

like, actually kind of dating in high

838

:

school was the only person that I…

839

:

Not the only person I dated.

840

:

I had boyfriends.

841

:

But she was a straight girl,

and she ruined my senior year.

842

:

It was…

843

:

I can't say that I wish we, I

hadn't dated her because I learned

844

:

a lot about stuff, I guess.

845

:

But my God, did she ruin my life.

846

:

'Cause she wound up dating my best friend.

847

:

And

848

:

Beck: no

849

:

Dash: turn- yeah, so my best friend Ben,

like, she left me for him on prom night.

850

:

It was like a fucking teen movie

851

:

Beck: Yeah, I didn't know early

enough, uh, to go to the prom with…

852

:

Though I did go to prom with

gay people, just gay men

853

:

Dash: Yehaw

854

:

Beck: fuck

855

:

Dash: What'd you do?

856

:

Beck: Just ripped off half my fingernail

857

:

Dash: What?

858

:

Beck: Yehaw

859

:

Dash: Are you a fingernail biter?

860

:

Beck: So I was for a long time and

then after my mom died, I just quit

861

:

for, you know, whatever reason.

862

:

And so I've got eight perfectly

good nails, like I have to trim

863

:

them to keep them short now.

864

:

And then I've got these two that I've

been fucking with, and then this one,

865

:

I don't know if you can see it, but I

866

:

tore the whole n-

867

:

Dash: Oh.

868

:

Oh.

869

:

I can feel that.

870

:

Stop touching it.

871

:

I can see you picking at it right now.

872

:

Put your hands in your pockets.

873

:

Sit on your hands.

874

:

I- I've never been a nail biter

because my nails are indestructible.

875

:

I would break a tooth trying to…

876

:

Beck: Yeah.

877

:

Dash: I have to cut them every other day

878

:

Beck: I cut mine about twice a week

usually, 'cause they grow out so fast now.

879

:

Used to I didn't think my nails grew at

all 'cause I just would tear them off.

880

:

'Cause I was a biter first and then

I became a picker, and picking was

881

:

worse because you like rip off.

882

:

Like that is gone.

883

:

Like that, like I

884

:

Dash: Yeah.

885

:

Oh, man.

886

:

Beck: nail left on that.

887

:

Dash: You were like, "Why

don't my nails grow?"

888

:

Beck: that's…

889

:

Yeah, yeah.

890

:

Pretty much

891

:

Dash: I, yeah, I feel bad

for people who have…

892

:

'Cause I've never been a nail biter,

like I said, but I pick at my, I

893

:

have picked at my cuticles and chewed

on my cuticles before as a kid.

894

:

I would chew them things

back to the knuckle.

895

:

Sorry if this is triggering anything to

anybody listening, uh, 'cause some folks,

896

:

man, they got it bad with nail biting.

897

:

Beck: Yehaw

898

:

Dash: And that would suck because of the

way, you know, like when you break a nail

899

:

off too short, it hurts to touch things.

900

:

You can't do shit

901

:

Beck: Right?

902

:

Meow.

903

:

Dash: Yeah.

904

:

Can you hear her?

905

:

I don't know which…

906

:

Sometimes they get treats at

this, in the afternoon, so

907

:

that may be what she's after.

908

:

Come here, baby.

909

:

Oh.

910

:

Beck: I have everybody

shut out of the room, so

911

:

Dash: Well, I'm in the hallway, so

912

:

Uh, did you bring any noun

of Appalachian interest?

913

:

Beck: Good.

914

:

This week's noun is a person All right.

915

:

Uh, today's town of

Appalachian interest is Dr.

916

:

Henry Louis Gates, Jr.

917

:

Now, I know many of you will say, "Who?"

918

:

But you probably know him from the PBS

show Finding Your Roots, where he sits

919

:

across from famous people with a book and

somehow makes genealogy feel like both

920

:

a family reunion and a courtroom drama.

921

:

He'll look somebody straight in the

eye, turn a page, and suddenly f-

922

:

they find out their great something

s out here causing trouble in:

923

:

And you know, I respect that.

924

:

Everyone needs to be reminded

sometimes that we all come from

925

:

a long line of troublemakers.

926

:

But before Dr.

927

:

Gates became the man on PBS gently

wrecking celebrities with census

928

:

records, he was a kid from West Virginia.

929

:

He was born in Keyser and grew up in

Piedmont, a small town tucked in the

930

:

mountains along the Potomac River.

931

:

Piedmont was a paper mill town, the

kind of place where everybody knew

932

:

your people, your business, your

mamaw, and probably what time you

933

:

turned the, your porch light off.

934

:

Appalachia is often talked about like

it only has one story, one accent, one

935

:

experience, one kind of family, and you

and I both know that has never been true,

936

:

no matter how many outsiders believe it.

937

:

Dr.

938

:

Louis Henry Gates, Jr.

939

:

is part of Black Appalachia, and

Black Appalachia is not a side note.

940

:

It is part of the region's history,

its labor, culture, music, schools,

941

:

churches, neighborhoods, and memory.

942

:

You do not get to tell the story

of Appalachia and leave that out

943

:

just because somebody watched one

documentary and decided we were all

944

:

barefoot extras in a Coal Camp remake.

945

:

Dr.

946

:

Gates went on to become one of the

most important scholars in African

947

:

and African American studies.

948

:

That field is deeply connected to

American cultural studies because

949

:

it asks how race, language,

literature, history, and identity

950

:

shape the country that we live in.

951

:

And yes, I did just say American

cultural studies on a podcast

952

:

that also once spent serious time

discussing gas station chicken.

953

:

The, we have a range.

954

:

His work reminds us that culture

is not just paintings in a museum

955

:

or some old book nobody wants

to read unless there's a quiz.

956

:

Culture is what people remember.

957

:

It's what families pass down.

958

:

It's what gets hidden, what gets saved,

and what gets whispered, and what somebody

959

:

finally says out loud at Thanksgiving

after too much sweet potato pie.

960

:

That is why Finding Your

Roots works so beautifully.

961

:

It's not just about famous people

learning they are related to kings

962

:

or moonshiners or somebody who had 18

children and apparently no hobbies.

963

:

It was about how history

lives in regular families.

964

:

You could find it in family names old

homesteads and hometowns, in the stories

965

:

that have been passed down and the

stories that nobody is allowed to tell.

966

:

There's a few of those in every holler.

967

:

But people from this region know what

it means to carry a place with you.

968

:

You can leave the mountain, the mill

town, the holler, the riverbank, but

969

:

it has a funny way of packing itself in

your suitcase without asking permission.

970

:

Dr.

971

:

Gates spent his career showing

that the past is not dead weight.

972

:

It is a map.

973

:

Sometimes it's messy or painful.

974

:

Sometimes it shows you something

beautiful that your family almost

975

:

lost, and sometimes it tells you

that your people were much more

976

:

interesting than anybody gave them

credit for, and that's the part I love.

977

:

one of the best-known voices in the

study of Black history and culture.

978

:

That does not make him an exception

in Appalachia, it makes him

979

:

part of the truth of Appalachia.

980

:

So today we honor Dr.

981

:

Lu- Henry Louis Gates, the Appalachian

now, who reminds us that family

982

:

stories are never simple, history

is never finished, and that West

983

:

Virginia has produced more than

pepperoni rolls, country roads, and

984

:

people who can give directions using

buildings that burned down in:

985

:

Thank you, Dr.

986

:

Gates

987

:

Dash: Hell yeah.

988

:

Love.

989

:

The first time I heard of him was

in, uh, my master's program, and

990

:

we read The Signifying Monkey.

991

:

Have you read that?

992

:

Beck: Nope

993

:

Dash: It's from, uh, 1988.

994

:

And so I like it.

995

:

I'm a structuralist.

996

:

I- a post-structuralist.

997

:

I love structuralism.

998

:

And so he's, like, signifying when used in

Afro-American cr- uh, cultural criticism,

999

:

describes kind of tropes like metonymy,

metaphor, double talk and it's a way

:

00:48:32,961 --> 00:48:34,861

of indirectly referencing something.

:

00:48:35,131 --> 00:48:40,381

So an example that, that he gave was

the way in African American vernacular

:

00:48:40,881 --> 00:48:45,741

you can show affection for someone

through the construct of an insult.

:

00:48:46,061 --> 00:48:52,221

But it comes from, doubling the term

off of Ferdinand de Saussure's construct

:

00:48:52,221 --> 00:48:58,602

of signification, which is basically,

uh, the relationship between a sign

:

00:48:58,642 --> 00:49:02,952

and what it signifies basically is,

like, h- how we express meaning.

:

00:49:03,952 --> 00:49:06,602

Anyway, that is just to say that

he is brilliant, and everybody

:

00:49:06,602 --> 00:49:07,812

should read Signifying Monkey

:

00:49:13,747 --> 00:49:14,077

Um,

:

00:49:14,303 --> 00:49:15,903

you heard of Affrilachian?

:

00:49:16,537 --> 00:49:17,087

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:49:17,087 --> 00:49:17,777

I follow them

:

00:49:18,045 --> 00:49:18,895

Dash: Oh, is it a…

:

00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:19,689

Beck: Facebook.

:

00:49:19,689 --> 00:49:21,839

There's a page, uh, it's Affrilachian.

:

00:49:22,362 --> 00:49:24,397

It's a, an artist and a

:

00:49:24,397 --> 00:49:24,917

poet

:

00:49:25,216 --> 00:49:25,936

Dash: Oh, okay.

:

00:49:26,196 --> 00:49:33,019

So, um, the person who coined the term is

named, Frank X Walker and it refers to,

:

00:49:33,069 --> 00:49:39,819

uh, the kind of culture created by people

who arrived in Appalachia via the slave

:

00:49:39,819 --> 00:49:42,839

trade or, the Underground Railroad, right?

:

00:49:42,839 --> 00:49:44,099

Like people of those experience.

:

00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,289

And so he coined it because he's a poet.

:

00:49:47,059 --> 00:49:49,669

And he taught - I've

taken courses with him.

:

00:49:49,669 --> 00:49:51,729

He taught at EKU when I was an undergrad.

:

00:49:52,179 --> 00:49:52,669

Beck: neat!

:

00:49:53,009 --> 00:49:54,219

Dash: before he was famous.

:

00:49:54,219 --> 00:50:00,975

This was before the Appalachia, the idea

of it as a cultural expression took off.

:

00:50:01,995 --> 00:50:02,795

Beck: That's amazing

:

00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,719

Dash: Everybody should

read Frank X Walker.

:

00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:05,939

I don't…

:

00:50:05,949 --> 00:50:06,999

Wonder where he's at now?

:

00:50:07,999 --> 00:50:09,689

He's from Danville, Kentucky

:

00:50:10,263 --> 00:50:11,493

Beck: That's around Pikeville, isn't it?

:

00:50:12,075 --> 00:50:14,075

Dash: No, Danville's Central Kentucky.

:

00:50:14,379 --> 00:50:14,769

Beck: Ah.

:

00:50:15,505 --> 00:50:19,465

Dash: Walker coined the term Affrilachia,

signifying the importance of the

:

00:50:19,465 --> 00:50:25,375

African American presence influence

in Appalachia he was Poet Laureate

:

00:50:25,375 --> 00:50:28,265

of Kentucky from:

:

00:50:29,265 --> 00:50:31,430

Where are you teaching right now, Frank?

:

00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:32,900

Maybe he's not teaching.

:

00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:35,730

Maybe he's And he learned

under Gurney Norman.

:

00:50:35,740 --> 00:50:37,270

Have you ever read any of his stuff?

:

00:50:37,566 --> 00:50:42,176

He died recently, but he was also

a very big deal you know, to, to

:

00:50:42,176 --> 00:50:47,316

Kentucky and to in general I'll

put some links to Frank's stuff.

:

00:50:47,376 --> 00:50:50,396

Uh, I'm gonna put a bunch of stuff

for people to, to study up on if

:

00:50:50,396 --> 00:50:53,549

they want to and Beck will put it

in the newsletter this week too.

:

00:50:54,506 --> 00:50:58,316

Oh, well, we gotta spin this wheel and

see what our homework is for next week

:

00:50:58,612 --> 00:51:01,907

Beck: Okay This fa- this YouTube

one really threw me for a loop.

:

00:51:01,907 --> 00:51:04,317

I was watching YouTube videos

on end and I couldn't…

:

00:51:04,597 --> 00:51:07,987

That's why I went with the one that I went

with, 'cause it started everything, right?

:

00:51:08,187 --> 00:51:10,487

'Cause it was such a broad

thing, a YouTube video that kinda

:

00:51:10,487 --> 00:51:13,321

meant something, and there's

like, where do you go with that?

:

00:51:13,321 --> 00:51:16,211

That's the way that I interpreted it,

and so that's why I went with, you

:

00:51:16,211 --> 00:51:17,791

know, the first one that I remember

:

00:51:17,835 --> 00:51:18,525

Dash: Yeah.

:

00:51:19,755 --> 00:51:21,035

Um, Oh, damn.

:

00:51:21,055 --> 00:51:22,285

It landed on social media.

:

00:51:24,708 --> 00:51:28,418

Yeah and you know, if it land, next time

it lands on it, it maybe it'll be easier

:

00:51:28,418 --> 00:51:30,580

to just bullshit come up with something.

:

00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:31,580

it was fun.

:

00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,230

I ne- hadn't

:

00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:33,000

seen that before

:

00:51:33,074 --> 00:51:33,504

Beck: things.

:

00:51:33,524 --> 00:51:35,440

Yeah, I overthink things too, so

:

00:51:35,794 --> 00:51:36,724

Dash: That's relatable though.

:

00:51:37,054 --> 00:51:38,704

All right, so social media.

:

00:51:38,754 --> 00:51:48,114

What, your favorite memes or stories or

pages or things you learned, unexpected

:

00:51:48,114 --> 00:51:50,194

stuff, anything about social media,

:

00:51:50,708 --> 00:51:50,808

Beck: okay.

:

00:51:51,192 --> 00:51:55,652

well, I did a academic project on

social media on a, uh, a page called

:

00:51:55,892 --> 00:51:57,972

You Might Be From Portsmouth, Ohio If,

:

00:51:58,582 --> 00:52:00,552

And as a site of public memory.

:

00:52:00,602 --> 00:52:03,662

It's one of the YouTube videos that I

have on my channel, and I watched it

:

00:52:03,662 --> 00:52:05,142

the other day, and it was pretty good.

:

00:52:05,382 --> 00:52:08,322

I had forgotten how much work I

put into that particular project.

:

00:52:08,612 --> 00:52:12,062

But it was neat to see Facebook used

as a site of serious academic work

:

00:52:12,242 --> 00:52:12,892

Dash: Oh, yeah.

:

00:52:13,002 --> 00:52:17,412

I think I told you about that ethnography

I did of the zombie survivalist

:

00:52:17,722 --> 00:52:20,716

groups, I can see why people get

hooked on that kind of research.

:

00:52:20,726 --> 00:52:25,016

Ethnography is fun, especially

like im- immersive ethnography

:

00:52:25,624 --> 00:52:25,634

Beck: Yehaw

:

00:52:26,634 --> 00:52:29,494

I learned all about that in

my anthropology, uh, thematic

:

00:52:29,504 --> 00:52:30,804

sequence as an undergrad

:

00:52:31,345 --> 00:52:35,035

Dash: I didn't learn anything about

research until my, uh, until grad school.

:

00:52:35,045 --> 00:52:38,685

We just, I did, they did, we

did not do that kind of research

:

00:52:38,838 --> 00:52:41,518

Beck: We had this assignment, we had

to pick somebody from the community

:

00:52:41,518 --> 00:52:42,918

and write a project on them.

:

00:52:42,928 --> 00:52:44,938

Like, it had to be,

like, a 40-page project.

:

00:52:45,368 --> 00:52:48,718

So I did all this work

on my, uh, my landlord.

:

00:52:48,828 --> 00:52:52,438

He was this guy who, he was the

last person to play both first

:

00:52:52,438 --> 00:52:55,668

string for the basketball team and

the football team for Ohio State.

:

00:52:56,008 --> 00:52:57,398

He was on both in the '50s.

:

00:52:58,008 --> 00:53:00,148

And so I wrote this whole thing about him.

:

00:53:00,358 --> 00:53:03,998

I had to actually write two papers because

there was the paper that I gave him, and

:

00:53:03,998 --> 00:53:06,388

then there was the paper where I wrote

about what a piece of shit he was for

:

00:53:06,388 --> 00:53:07,948

the community at the same time, right?

:

00:53:07,968 --> 00:53:09,768

'Cause he bought up everything

and was a slum lord.

:

00:53:10,278 --> 00:53:12,648

And so I did all this work, and I put…

:

00:53:12,648 --> 00:53:17,588

I did transcription, and I did hours

of typing, and I did interviews and all

:

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this, and all that came back he said if we

wanted our projects back to let him know.

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And I was like, "Yeah, I want it

back for the feedback," you know?

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And he changed, he had one word

suggestion and gave me an A, and that

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was all he did on my 40-page project.

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I was bitter.

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Bitter

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Dash: That's fucked up, man

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Beck: Yeah.

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He ended up getting fired

from, uh, from Miami, so ha

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Dash: Oh, right.

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Yeah,

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Beck: It's, it's common knowledge.

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Dr.

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Cinnamon was an Africanist and Dr.,

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uh, Gladish was a botanist, and Dr.

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00:53:48,525 --> 00:53:53,745

Cinnamon went to, uh, Africa on a research

study and he brought some plants back,

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and one of them was psychoactive, and Dr.

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Gladish knew it, and grew it in the

greenhouse anyway that's there on campus.

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And it got turned in, and they both got

fired, and they were my least, my two

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00:54:03,789 --> 00:54:06,149

least favorite professors ever at Miami.

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00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:06,869

Dr.

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Gladish is the only one

that ever made me cry

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Dash: Oh.

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Beck: He was the worst.

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Like, as somebody who is a professional

educator now, he was the worst.

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Like, he would teach you A, B, and

C, and then test you on E, D, and F.

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You know?

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Like, th- there just was no

correlation to what he would do.

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His big mistake was he gave us access

to all of his files on Canvas, and

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he, I don't think he realized he had

a copy of all of his exams and quizzes

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if you dug hard enough.

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So I ended up getting an A in that class.

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He said we could access

his files, so I did.

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I just didn't tell him what was in there.

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That was his dumb ass for not

knowing what was in there, you know?

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Dash: I mean, you know, y- you

found the resource and you used it

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Beck: I bet he wondered how I was doing

so well in his class 'cause everybody…

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That was one of those classes

that 80% of the class fails and

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00:54:53,984 --> 00:54:57,174

everybody else gets a C, and I'm

sit- sitting there getting an A.

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00:54:57,224 --> 00:54:57,514

I'm sure

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I drove him crazy.

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Dash: one that found them?

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Beck: Yeah, well, I sha-

I shared it with Shana.

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So cause we took botany

together as undergrads.

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I saved it to my very last set of

classes that I had to take 'cause

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I'm not a science person at all,

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Dash: I didn't take botany

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00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,440

Beck: Well, you could take, like,

botany or you take biology or, you know.

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00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:17,850

So I took botany and geology for

the science classes that I took.

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00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,440

I didn't wanna take, like,

human biology or anything like

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00:55:20,734 --> 00:55:25,604

Dash: I I mean, I took a lot of science

courses because I think I said, like,

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00:55:25,604 --> 00:55:30,314

I accidentally minored in biology,

but I just kept taking bio classes.

:

00:55:30,424 --> 00:55:34,284

I did take geology because you

have to take more than just bio

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to, for the gen ed requirement.

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So I took economic plants,

but it wasn't about botany.

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It was about…

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00:55:41,484 --> 00:55:44,904

It was actually a really interesting

course about how agriculture

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00:55:44,904 --> 00:55:47,524

creates society and such.

:

00:55:48,146 --> 00:55:52,526

Weird dude teaching the course, but the

first day he wheels in this cart full

:

00:55:52,526 --> 00:55:56,846

of essential oils, which are just oils

expressed from various plants, we just

:

00:55:56,856 --> 00:55:58,476

spent the whole class smelling stuff

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00:56:00,161 --> 00:56:02,611

Beck: In my botany class,

uh, the professor was a

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00:56:02,671 --> 00:56:05,051

adjunct and so she didn't…

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00:56:05,351 --> 00:56:05,831

I don't know.

:

00:56:06,091 --> 00:56:08,511

She was, she tried real

hard, I'll give her that.

:

00:56:08,866 --> 00:56:09,926

It was not a great class.

:

00:56:09,926 --> 00:56:10,876

It felt very high school.

:

00:56:10,876 --> 00:56:12,996

She ended up quitting and going

to teach high school anyway.

:

00:56:13,276 --> 00:56:16,856

But we had this one demonstration where

she went to Jungle Jim's and got, like,

:

00:56:16,866 --> 00:56:21,126

30 different kinds of fruit we had never

tried, including durian fruit, and we

:

00:56:21,126 --> 00:56:23,176

got to try a- all kinds of little things.

:

00:56:23,741 --> 00:56:24,731

Dash: Tried durian?

:

00:56:25,009 --> 00:56:25,659

Beck: I have.

:

00:56:25,881 --> 00:56:26,521

Dash: Oh my God.

:

00:56:26,871 --> 00:56:27,321

Yeah.

:

00:56:27,641 --> 00:56:31,731

That's the one that you're not allowed

to take to like the airport or eaten in

:

00:56:31,731 --> 00:56:33,541

certain places because it smells so bad

:

00:56:33,999 --> 00:56:35,719

Beck: Yeah, you can buy

it at Uncle Jim's though.

:

00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:37,025

Dash: What does it smell like?

:

00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:40,609

Beck: Uh, gasoline and

vomit mixed together

:

00:56:41,923 --> 00:56:42,623

Dash: So is Sheets.

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00:56:43,423 --> 00:56:44,803

Beck: Y- basically, yeah.

:

00:56:47,445 --> 00:56:49,295

Like it, it was foul.

:

00:56:49,325 --> 00:56:50,165

Like totally foul

:

00:56:51,165 --> 00:56:52,545

Dash: Oh, well, now I know.

:

00:56:52,545 --> 00:56:54,475

I don't have to experience myself then.

:

00:56:55,352 --> 00:56:55,852

You what?

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00:56:56,448 --> 00:56:57,288

Beck: I've pet a sloth

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00:56:58,004 --> 00:56:58,724

Dash: Cool

:

00:56:59,117 --> 00:57:01,987

Beck: One of the weddings that

I did in Cincinnati, the girl

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00:57:01,997 --> 00:57:04,807

worked at the Cincinnati Zoo,

and she had her reception there.

:

00:57:05,287 --> 00:57:08,897

Uh, she had her wedding in

this gorgeous Catholic church.

:

00:57:08,927 --> 00:57:11,477

Like, it was the most beautiful

temple I've ever been in.

:

00:57:11,947 --> 00:57:16,537

And then she had a reception at the zoo,

and because she was a zookeeper they

:

00:57:16,537 --> 00:57:18,137

brought a whole parade full of animals.

:

00:57:18,137 --> 00:57:19,237

They had penguins.

:

00:57:19,237 --> 00:57:20,317

There were, uh…

:

00:57:20,987 --> 00:57:21,757

Oh, what are they called?

:

00:57:21,807 --> 00:57:22,917

O- ostriches.

:

00:57:22,977 --> 00:57:23,807

Uh, not ostriches.

:

00:57:23,817 --> 00:57:24,347

Flamingos.

:

00:57:24,347 --> 00:57:25,397

That's what I was trying to come up with.

:

00:57:25,657 --> 00:57:30,127

And a sloth and a monitor lizard

and all kinds of interesting stuff.

:

00:57:30,137 --> 00:57:30,417

But I like…

:

00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:30,727

Got to…

:

00:57:30,737 --> 00:57:32,717

The petting the sloth

was my favorite part.

:

00:57:33,339 --> 00:57:34,109

Dash: Are they soft?

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00:57:34,707 --> 00:57:35,057

Beck: Yes.

:

00:57:35,067 --> 00:57:36,457

Well, they're kinda wiry, like,

:

00:57:36,841 --> 00:57:38,001

Dash: They look kinda wiry.

:

00:57:38,317 --> 00:57:39,637

Beck: yeah, kinda like a chihuahua.

:

00:57:39,677 --> 00:57:39,997

You know what I

:

00:57:40,021 --> 00:57:40,901

Dash: Yeah, right

:

00:57:41,017 --> 00:57:41,307

Beck: yeah.

:

00:57:42,027 --> 00:57:45,567

Dash: I used to want to pet a koala until

I learned that they all have chlamydia.

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00:57:46,025 --> 00:57:46,335

Beck: Yeah.

:

00:57:48,172 --> 00:57:49,012

Dash: Now I'm good.

:

00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,520

Beck: That'll do.

:

00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,480

That'll do it.

:

00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:51,000

That'll do it

:

00:57:51,723 --> 00:57:54,135

Dash: They're debaucherous, like…

:

00:57:56,660 --> 00:57:59,950

Beck: When the pandemic came around

we started look- watching YouTubers

:

00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:03,780

that smoked weed a lot 'cause it was

just, you know, it was interesting.

:

00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:04,800

And there are a couple of…

:

00:58:04,820 --> 00:58:06,600

There's lots of weedtubers out there.

:

00:58:06,830 --> 00:58:10,850

But one of the most popular is this girl

called Koala Puffs, and I think about

:

00:58:10,850 --> 00:58:13,290

that sometimes when we see her material.

:

00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:15,960

I w- I wonder if she doesn't know that

:

00:58:16,749 --> 00:58:17,449

Dash: Maybe not.

:

00:58:18,283 --> 00:58:23,013

the first, like, what we would

consider content creator I ever

:

00:58:23,273 --> 00:58:25,913

was aware of was Jenna Marbles.

:

00:58:26,456 --> 00:58:29,206

that is millennial humor

right there, Jenna Marbles.

:

00:58:29,216 --> 00:58:32,056

And she still w- has a lot of fans,

I know they're out there, so please

:

00:58:32,056 --> 00:58:34,126

don't hate us for me saying that.

:

00:58:34,146 --> 00:58:36,516

Like, you, you have to agree,

that is millennial humor.

:

00:58:36,746 --> 00:58:40,476

And I'm, I appreciate millennial

humor, but I also can see why she's

:

00:58:40,486 --> 00:58:45,516

not making content anymore, 'cause

these fucking young ones are…

:

00:58:45,956 --> 00:58:47,316

All they do is drama.

:

00:58:47,366 --> 00:58:52,296

The, there's a whole genre of

content on YouTube that is drama.

:

00:58:52,296 --> 00:58:54,386

They call themselves drama tubers.

:

00:58:54,916 --> 00:58:56,456

Can you imagine if that was your job?

:

00:58:56,583 --> 00:58:57,833

What are these kids made of?

:

00:58:58,033 --> 00:58:58,713

Beck: I cannot.

:

00:58:58,782 --> 00:58:59,322

And I teach

:

00:58:59,322 --> 00:59:00,242

college freshmen.

:

00:59:01,951 --> 00:59:03,321

Dash: Oh I sh- I know

something I should've…

:

00:59:03,461 --> 00:59:06,171

I'm just gonna send you this because

it's too long to put on the show,

:

00:59:06,461 --> 00:59:10,151

but there's a YouTube video that,

uh, also makes me laugh a lot.

:

00:59:10,151 --> 00:59:12,231

We're gonna remember a bunch of

shit that we should've put on here.

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00:59:12,973 --> 00:59:13,156

Beck: Yehaw

:

00:59:13,156 --> 00:59:15,416

Dash: listeners, tell us

your favorite YouTube video,

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00:59:16,402 --> 00:59:17,642

Beck: of listener requested YouTube

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00:59:17,642 --> 00:59:18,062

videos

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:18,870

Dash: would love that.

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00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:19,560

I would love…

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00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:21,020

Send us your stuff in.

:

00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:25,070

If we get enough we will

react to your YouTube videos.

:

00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:29,180

We'll- we could even go live and do

that, react to YouTube videos on YouTube.

:

00:59:29,435 --> 00:59:30,465

Beck: I would, that'd be great

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00:59:30,693 --> 00:59:31,763

Dash: That would be real fun.

:

00:59:32,063 --> 00:59:34,053

Beck: mailbag@queernecks.com

:

00:59:34,423 --> 00:59:35,073

Dash: correct

:

00:59:35,101 --> 00:59:37,701

Beck: comment on any of our podcasts

wherever you get your podcasts

:

00:59:37,909 --> 00:59:40,249

Dash: Yep, you can comment on

YouTube if you listen there.

:

00:59:40,249 --> 00:59:41,379

You can comment on Spotify.

:

00:59:41,379 --> 00:59:43,169

I don't know if you can comment on Apple.

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00:59:43,689 --> 00:59:46,839

And if you haven't, we haven't asked

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That helps us out, helps us,

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:

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You know, we're a weird bunch.

:

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We don't come up organically for

for a lot of people's algorithms.

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01:00:02,885 --> 01:00:03,895

We're a hard sell.

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01:00:03,897 --> 01:00:05,097

Beck: searching queer Appalachia?

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01:00:05,125 --> 01:00:05,345

Dash: Yeah.

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01:00:06,934 --> 01:00:08,164

Yeah, it doesn't come up.

:

01:00:08,684 --> 01:00:11,064

Uh, I haven't quite yet

cracked the keyword puzzle

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01:00:11,074 --> 01:00:13,554

for whatever it is we do here.

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01:00:13,904 --> 01:00:17,574

So any help y'all can give, if

you think somebody will find us

:

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funny, Send the link to them.

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01:00:19,622 --> 01:00:20,502

have a good week.

:

01:00:20,532 --> 01:00:24,302

Pride Month may be coming to an end,

but we love you and we're proud of

:

01:00:24,302 --> 01:00:26,052

you anyway, and we'll stay that way.

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01:00:27,168 --> 01:00:29,168

so be good and say hi to your mom and them

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01:00:29,492 --> 01:00:29,972

Beck: Bye

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